Guns are not the cause of gun violence...prosecutors and judges who release gun criminals are...

See....if you leave law abiding gun owners alone.....because they don't commit the gun violence in the first place....and instead actually focus on the criminals using guns to commit crimes....wow....gosh gee willickers......you can cut down on your murder rate.........

New Orleans has stood at the top of the national murder charts many times in the last two decades, including every year between 2008 and 2012 for cities larger than 250,000. But by 2013, murders had dropped to 155 people, the lowest numbers seen in New Orleans since 1985, and a 20% drop from the year prior.

And to repeat....how did they lower their murder rate.......by actually going after criminals....and not focusing on law abiding gun owners......

This is one of the biggest problems with the anti gun extremist movement....by obsessing on guns.....and then obsessing on law abiding gun owners because they can actually control them with laws.....the anti gun extremists allow the real problem to grow and grow.......and more people die because of it....

If anti gun extremists would go after the prosecutors, judges and then encourage the police to arrest the violent criminals....they would actually lower the murder rate even more....

But of course, they don't care about the murder rate...not really......they just hate the fact that people can legally own and carry guns.......who cares if actual criminals are doing the murdering......as long as one, law abiding, peaceful, non violent citizen has a gun....that they don't use to commit crime.........then the anti gun extremists job is not done......
 
See....if you leave law abiding gun owners alone.....because they don't commit the gun violence in the first place....and instead actually focus on the criminals using guns to commit crimes....wow....gosh gee willickers......you can cut down on your murder rate.........

New Orleans has stood at the top of the national murder charts many times in the last two decades, including every year between 2008 and 2012 for cities larger than 250,000. But by 2013, murders had dropped to 155 people, the lowest numbers seen in New Orleans since 1985, and a 20% drop from the year prior.

And to repeat....how did they lower their murder rate.......by actually going after criminals....and not focusing on law abiding gun owners......

This is one of the biggest problems with the anti gun extremist movement....by obsessing on guns.....and then obsessing on law abiding gun owners because they can actually control them with laws.....the anti gun extremists allow the real problem to grow and grow.......and more people die because of it....

If anti gun extremists would go after the prosecutors, judges and then encourage the police to arrest the violent criminals....they would actually lower the murder rate even more....

But of course, they don't care about the murder rate...not really......they just hate the fact that people can legally own and carry guns.......who cares if actual criminals are doing the murdering......as long as one, law abiding, peaceful, non violent citizen has a gun....that they don't use to commit crime.........then the anti gun extremists job is not done......

Yes you lower crime with policing.
 
See....if you leave law abiding gun owners alone.....because they don't commit the gun violence in the first place....and instead actually focus on the criminals using guns to commit crimes....wow....gosh gee willickers......you can cut down on your murder rate.........

New Orleans has stood at the top of the national murder charts many times in the last two decades, including every year between 2008 and 2012 for cities larger than 250,000. But by 2013, murders had dropped to 155 people, the lowest numbers seen in New Orleans since 1985, and a 20% drop from the year prior.

And to repeat....how did they lower their murder rate.......by actually going after criminals....and not focusing on law abiding gun owners......

This is one of the biggest problems with the anti gun extremist movement....by obsessing on guns.....and then obsessing on law abiding gun owners because they can actually control them with laws.....the anti gun extremists allow the real problem to grow and grow.......and more people die because of it....

If anti gun extremists would go after the prosecutors, judges and then encourage the police to arrest the violent criminals....they would actually lower the murder rate even more....

But of course, they don't care about the murder rate...not really......they just hate the fact that people can legally own and carry guns.......who cares if actual criminals are doing the murdering......as long as one, law abiding, peaceful, non violent citizen has a gun....that they don't use to commit crime.........then the anti gun extremists job is not done......

Yes you lower crime with policing.


And by allowing citizens to carry guns for self defense....since cops can't be everywhere...all the time....and criminals will rape, rob and murder at awkward times.......you know....when the police aren't actually around...

Of course, feel free to submit quietly brain.....I suggest you submit standing up with your eyes closed, kneeling in the presence of criminals just encourages them to be mean, and by closing your eyes you won't have to watch what they are doing to the rest of your family or friends........
 
Here you have a case of a guy who used a gun to commit a crime.....and he was released back into the public....and then murdered a police officer with an illegal gun....how do we know it was illegal....he is a convicted felon, and the mere possession of a gun is illegal for him.....

The problem in this country isn't law abiding citizens owning or carrying guns for self defense. No, the problem is that prosecutors, and judges for some odd reason do not take gun crimes seriously....while at the same time their political masters bitch and moan about gun crime and then call for more gun control on people who don't use guns to commit crime.

There is a city in California, Richmond......they determined that 17 criminals were responsible for 76% of all the gun crime in their city.....and odds are these guys have long arrest records.

If you want to stop gun violence...treat actual criminals, who use guns to commit crime seriously......

If you are a convicted criminal, and use a gun to commit a crime, you should recieve a life sentence......and I am not talking about arresting John Q. Citizen who leaves a gun in his car in the wrong state...I am talking about career criminals who have long histories of crime who get caught with guns...should be locked up for life...

Because this guy...had he been locked up for life for the armed robbery...where he was sentenced to 10 years but was early released....he would not have been able to murder this police officer......

Authorities identify suspect wanted in fatal shooting of Memphis police officer during traffic stop Fox News


The alleged gunman who shot and killed a Memphis police officer during a traffic stop was free on supervised release stemming from a bank robbery conviction, FOX13 reported.

Tremaine Wilbourn, 29, was sentenced to 121 months in prison in February for the robbery. But Wilbourn, who had also been arrested in 2014 on a charge of aggravated robbery, paid a fine and agreed to mental health treatment on July 7.

Less than a month later, a warrant for first-degree murder has been issued for Wilbourn.

Apparently, career criminals who use guns to commit crimes are like pedophiles.....they can never be cured, and can never be trusted to not use guns again...so they must be locked up for the rest of their lives.....let that get around in these gang infested, inner city democrat controlled cities and see if that keeps the gun murder rate down...

If a felon is caught in the mere possession of a gun....they too should be sentenced to life in prison.........that is how you stop gun crime...

Not by making a normal, law abiding citizen get a license for a gun.....
Why should career violent offenders even have breath, execute them.
 
I would get on board giving life to a felon committing a crime with a gun, but let's say someone with an ancient non violent felony goes hunting? A prosecutor with an agenda could send a rehabilitated person to prison for life.

Personally I dont think they should restrict non violent offenders once they've paid their debt to society.
In Texas a felon can own a firearm five years after fulfilling his debt,though only for home protection.

In Louisiana they restore your rights I believe after ten years for non violent offenders.

Louisiana has more gun murders than any other state.
Bullshit. Here's the top 10 Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Population
(total inhabitants)
(2010)
Population
Density

(inhabitants
per square mile)
(2010)
Murders
(total deaths)
(2010)
[1]
Gun
Murders
(total deaths)
(2010)
[1]
Gun
Ownership
(%)
(2007)
[2]
Murders
(rate per 100,000
inhabitants)
(2010)
Gun
Murders
(rate per 100,000
inhabitants)
(2010)

California 37,253,956 244.2 1,811 1,257 21.3% 4.9 3.4
Texas 25,145,561 98.07 1,246 805 35.9% 5.0 3.2
Florida 19,687,653 360.2 987 669 24.5% 5.0 3.9
New York 19,378,102 415.3 860 517 18% 4.4 2.7
Pennsylvania 12,702,379 285.3 646 457 34.7% 5.1 3.6
Michigan 9,883,640 174.8 558 413 38.4% 5.6 4.2
Georgia 9,920,000 172.5 527 376 40.3% 5.3 3.8
Illinois 12,830,632 231.9 453 364 20.2% 3.5 2.8
Louisiana 4,533,372 105.0 437 351 44.1% 9.6 7.7
Missouri 5,988,927 87.26 419 321 41.7% 7.0 5.4

 
I would get on board giving life to a felon committing a crime with a gun, but let's say someone with an ancient non violent felony goes hunting? A prosecutor with an agenda could send a rehabilitated person to prison for life.

Personally I dont think they should restrict non violent offenders once they've paid their debt to society.
In Texas a felon can own a firearm five years after fulfilling his debt,though only for home protection.

In Louisiana they restore your rights I believe after ten years for non violent offenders.

Louisiana has more gun murders than any other state.
Bullshit. Here's the top 10 Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Population
(total inhabitants)
(2010)
Population
Density

(inhabitants
per square mile)
(2010)
Murders
(total deaths)
(2010)
[1]
Gun
Murders
(total deaths)
(2010)
[1]
Gun
Ownership
(%)
(2007)
[2]
Murders
(rate per 100,000
inhabitants)
(2010)
Gun
Murders
(rate per 100,000
inhabitants)
(2010)

California 37,253,956 244.2 1,811 1,257 21.3% 4.9 3.4
Texas 25,145,561 98.07 1,246 805 35.9% 5.0 3.2
Florida 19,687,653 360.2 987 669 24.5% 5.0 3.9
New York 19,378,102 415.3 860 517 18% 4.4 2.7
Pennsylvania 12,702,379 285.3 646 457 34.7% 5.1 3.6
Michigan 9,883,640 174.8 558 413 38.4% 5.6 4.2
Georgia 9,920,000 172.5 527 376 40.3% 5.3 3.8
Illinois 12,830,632 231.9 453 364 20.2% 3.5 2.8
Louisiana 4,533,372 105.0 437 351 44.1% 9.6 7.7
Missouri 5,988,927 87.26 419 321 41.7% 7.0 5.4

They have by far the highest rate moron.
 
See....if you leave law abiding gun owners alone.....because they don't commit the gun violence in the first place....and instead actually focus on the criminals using guns to commit crimes....wow....gosh gee willickers......you can cut down on your murder rate.........

New Orleans has stood at the top of the national murder charts many times in the last two decades, including every year between 2008 and 2012 for cities larger than 250,000. But by 2013, murders had dropped to 155 people, the lowest numbers seen in New Orleans since 1985, and a 20% drop from the year prior.

And to repeat....how did they lower their murder rate.......by actually going after criminals....and not focusing on law abiding gun owners......

This is one of the biggest problems with the anti gun extremist movement....by obsessing on guns.....and then obsessing on law abiding gun owners because they can actually control them with laws.....the anti gun extremists allow the real problem to grow and grow.......and more people die because of it....

If anti gun extremists would go after the prosecutors, judges and then encourage the police to arrest the violent criminals....they would actually lower the murder rate even more....

But of course, they don't care about the murder rate...not really......they just hate the fact that people can legally own and carry guns.......who cares if actual criminals are doing the murdering......as long as one, law abiding, peaceful, non violent citizen has a gun....that they don't use to commit crime.........then the anti gun extremists job is not done......

Yes you lower crime with policing.


And by allowing citizens to carry guns for self defense....since cops can't be everywhere...all the time....and criminals will rape, rob and murder at awkward times.......you know....when the police aren't actually around...

Of course, feel free to submit quietly brain.....I suggest you submit standing up with your eyes closed, kneeling in the presence of criminals just encourages them to be mean, and by closing your eyes you won't have to watch what they are doing to the rest of your family or friends........

No wonder republican mayors can't get elected. You guys want to follow failed Louisiana policy.
 
See....if you leave law abiding gun owners alone.....because they don't commit the gun violence in the first place....and instead actually focus on the criminals using guns to commit crimes....wow....gosh gee willickers......you can cut down on your murder rate.........

New Orleans has stood at the top of the national murder charts many times in the last two decades, including every year between 2008 and 2012 for cities larger than 250,000. But by 2013, murders had dropped to 155 people, the lowest numbers seen in New Orleans since 1985, and a 20% drop from the year prior.

And to repeat....how did they lower their murder rate.......by actually going after criminals....and not focusing on law abiding gun owners......

This is one of the biggest problems with the anti gun extremist movement....by obsessing on guns.....and then obsessing on law abiding gun owners because they can actually control them with laws.....the anti gun extremists allow the real problem to grow and grow.......and more people die because of it....

If anti gun extremists would go after the prosecutors, judges and then encourage the police to arrest the violent criminals....they would actually lower the murder rate even more....

But of course, they don't care about the murder rate...not really......they just hate the fact that people can legally own and carry guns.......who cares if actual criminals are doing the murdering......as long as one, law abiding, peaceful, non violent citizen has a gun....that they don't use to commit crime.........then the anti gun extremists job is not done......

Yes you lower crime with policing.


And by allowing citizens to carry guns for self defense....since cops can't be everywhere...all the time....and criminals will rape, rob and murder at awkward times.......you know....when the police aren't actually around...

Of course, feel free to submit quietly brain.....I suggest you submit standing up with your eyes closed, kneeling in the presence of criminals just encourages them to be mean, and by closing your eyes you won't have to watch what they are doing to the rest of your family or friends........

No wonder republican mayors can't get elected. You guys want to follow failed Louisiana policy.


Brain.....that doesn't make any sense...democrats run those Louisiana cities with democrat policies.......they need Rudy Guiliani....
 
See....if you leave law abiding gun owners alone.....because they don't commit the gun violence in the first place....and instead actually focus on the criminals using guns to commit crimes....wow....gosh gee willickers......you can cut down on your murder rate.........

New Orleans has stood at the top of the national murder charts many times in the last two decades, including every year between 2008 and 2012 for cities larger than 250,000. But by 2013, murders had dropped to 155 people, the lowest numbers seen in New Orleans since 1985, and a 20% drop from the year prior.

And to repeat....how did they lower their murder rate.......by actually going after criminals....and not focusing on law abiding gun owners......

This is one of the biggest problems with the anti gun extremist movement....by obsessing on guns.....and then obsessing on law abiding gun owners because they can actually control them with laws.....the anti gun extremists allow the real problem to grow and grow.......and more people die because of it....

If anti gun extremists would go after the prosecutors, judges and then encourage the police to arrest the violent criminals....they would actually lower the murder rate even more....

But of course, they don't care about the murder rate...not really......they just hate the fact that people can legally own and carry guns.......who cares if actual criminals are doing the murdering......as long as one, law abiding, peaceful, non violent citizen has a gun....that they don't use to commit crime.........then the anti gun extremists job is not done......

Yes you lower crime with policing.


And by allowing citizens to carry guns for self defense....since cops can't be everywhere...all the time....and criminals will rape, rob and murder at awkward times.......you know....when the police aren't actually around...

Of course, feel free to submit quietly brain.....I suggest you submit standing up with your eyes closed, kneeling in the presence of criminals just encourages them to be mean, and by closing your eyes you won't have to watch what they are doing to the rest of your family or friends........

No wonder republican mayors can't get elected. You guys want to follow failed Louisiana policy.


Brain.....that doesn't make any sense...democrats run those Louisiana cities with democrat policies.......they need Rudy Guiliani....

Well I guess you don't believe in democracy. Dems win cause the people want them. When you say you want Louisiana policy nationwide it's easy to see why. Highest gun murder rate in the country.
 
I would get on board giving life to a felon committing a crime with a gun, but let's say someone with an ancient non violent felony goes hunting? A prosecutor with an agenda could send a rehabilitated person to prison for life.

Personally I dont think they should restrict non violent offenders once they've paid their debt to society.
In Texas a felon can own a firearm five years after fulfilling his debt,though only for home protection.

In Louisiana they restore your rights I believe after ten years for non violent offenders.

Louisiana has more gun murders than any other state.
Bullshit. Here's the top 10 Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Population
(total inhabitants)
(2010)
Population
Density

(inhabitants
per square mile)
(2010)
Murders
(total deaths)
(2010)
[1]
Gun
Murders
(total deaths)
(2010)
[1]
Gun
Ownership
(%)
(2007)
[2]
Murders
(rate per 100,000
inhabitants)
(2010)
Gun
Murders
(rate per 100,000
inhabitants)
(2010)

California 37,253,956 244.2 1,811 1,257 21.3% 4.9 3.4
Texas 25,145,561 98.07 1,246 805 35.9% 5.0 3.2
Florida 19,687,653 360.2 987 669 24.5% 5.0 3.9
New York 19,378,102 415.3 860 517 18% 4.4 2.7
Pennsylvania 12,702,379 285.3 646 457 34.7% 5.1 3.6
Michigan 9,883,640 174.8 558 413 38.4% 5.6 4.2
Georgia 9,920,000 172.5 527 376 40.3% 5.3 3.8
Illinois 12,830,632 231.9 453 364 20.2% 3.5 2.8
Louisiana 4,533,372 105.0 437 351 44.1% 9.6 7.7
Missouri 5,988,927 87.26 419 321 41.7% 7.0 5.4

They have by far the highest rate moron.
That was not the claim. What you said was, "Louisiana has more gun murders than any other state."
But yes, it does have the highest rate of any state.
But let's look at why, OK? Louisiana has the second highest percentage of black residents.
You will find high gun murder rates tend to be higher in cities with high rates of black population.
How about DC? 51% black homicide rate of 13.9/100,000
Detroit? 2.7% black homicide rate of 54.6/100.000
 
I would get on board giving life to a felon committing a crime with a gun, but let's say someone with an ancient non violent felony goes hunting? A prosecutor with an agenda could send a rehabilitated person to prison for life.

Personally I dont think they should restrict non violent offenders once they've paid their debt to society.
In Texas a felon can own a firearm five years after fulfilling his debt,though only for home protection.

In Louisiana they restore your rights I believe after ten years for non violent offenders.

Louisiana has more gun murders than any other state.
Bullshit. Here's the top 10 Gun violence in the United States by state - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia
Population
(total inhabitants)
(2010)
Population
Density

(inhabitants
per square mile)
(2010)
Murders
(total deaths)
(2010)
[1]
Gun
Murders
(total deaths)
(2010)
[1]
Gun
Ownership
(%)
(2007)
[2]
Murders
(rate per 100,000
inhabitants)
(2010)
Gun
Murders
(rate per 100,000
inhabitants)
(2010)

California 37,253,956 244.2 1,811 1,257 21.3% 4.9 3.4
Texas 25,145,561 98.07 1,246 805 35.9% 5.0 3.2
Florida 19,687,653 360.2 987 669 24.5% 5.0 3.9
New York 19,378,102 415.3 860 517 18% 4.4 2.7
Pennsylvania 12,702,379 285.3 646 457 34.7% 5.1 3.6
Michigan 9,883,640 174.8 558 413 38.4% 5.6 4.2
Georgia 9,920,000 172.5 527 376 40.3% 5.3 3.8
Illinois 12,830,632 231.9 453 364 20.2% 3.5 2.8
Louisiana 4,533,372 105.0 437 351 44.1% 9.6 7.7
Missouri 5,988,927 87.26 419 321 41.7% 7.0 5.4

They have by far the highest rate moron.
That was not the claim. What you said was, "Louisiana has more gun murders than any other state."
But yes, it does have the highest rate of any state.
But let's look at why, OK? Louisiana has the second highest percentage of black residents.
You will find high gun murder rates tend to be higher in cities with high rates of black population.
How about DC? 51% black homicide rate of 13.9/100,000
Detroit? 2.7% black homicide rate of 54.6/100.000

I thought rate could be assumed.
 
There in lies your problem. You assumed you could think.
Your claim was false.
 
There in lies your problem. You assumed you could think.
Your claim was false.

Any intelligent person would look at rates. Clearly I thought you were smarter than you are. Won't make that mistake again.
 
Here you have a case of a guy who used a gun to commit a crime.....and he was released back into the public....and then murdered a police officer with an illegal gun....how do we know it was illegal....he is a convicted felon, and the mere possession of a gun is illegal for him.....

The problem in this country isn't law abiding citizens owning or carrying guns for self defense. No, the problem is that prosecutors, and judges for some odd reason do not take gun crimes seriously....while at the same time their political masters bitch and moan about gun crime and then call for more gun control on people who don't use guns to commit crime.

There is a city in California, Richmond......they determined that 17 criminals were responsible for 76% of all the gun crime in their city.....and odds are these guys have long arrest records.

If you want to stop gun violence...treat actual criminals, who use guns to commit crime seriously......

If you are a convicted criminal, and use a gun to commit a crime, you should recieve a life sentence......and I am not talking about arresting John Q. Citizen who leaves a gun in his car in the wrong state...I am talking about career criminals who have long histories of crime who get caught with guns...should be locked up for life...

Because this guy...had he been locked up for life for the armed robbery...where he was sentenced to 10 years but was early released....he would not have been able to murder this police officer......

Authorities identify suspect wanted in fatal shooting of Memphis police officer during traffic stop Fox News


The alleged gunman who shot and killed a Memphis police officer during a traffic stop was free on supervised release stemming from a bank robbery conviction, FOX13 reported.

Tremaine Wilbourn, 29, was sentenced to 121 months in prison in February for the robbery. But Wilbourn, who had also been arrested in 2014 on a charge of aggravated robbery, paid a fine and agreed to mental health treatment on July 7.

Less than a month later, a warrant for first-degree murder has been issued for Wilbourn.

Apparently, career criminals who use guns to commit crimes are like pedophiles.....they can never be cured, and can never be trusted to not use guns again...so they must be locked up for the rest of their lives.....let that get around in these gang infested, inner city democrat controlled cities and see if that keeps the gun murder rate down...

If a felon is caught in the mere possession of a gun....they too should be sentenced to life in prison.........that is how you stop gun crime...

Not by making a normal, law abiding citizen get a license for a gun.....

SECOND LARGEST PER CAPITA PRISON POPULATION IN THE WORLD, and the problem is that not enough people are in prison?

Louisiana has the HIGHEST prison population in the US and Louisiana is not one of the safer states either.

So, on the international level you're talking rubbish, on the US level you're talking rubbish.

You keep peddling the same rubbish, anyone who tells you that you're wrong you insult and ignore. What is your agenda I wonder.....
 
I would get on board giving life to a felon committing a crime with a gun, but let's say someone with an ancient non violent felony goes hunting? A prosecutor with an agenda could send a rehabilitated person to prison for life.

Personally I dont think they should restrict non violent offenders once they've paid their debt to society.
In Texas a felon can own a firearm five years after fulfilling his debt,though only for home protection.

In Louisiana they restore your rights I believe after ten years for non violent offenders.

Louisiana has more gun murders than any other state.

And highest prison population.
 
Lesse...
15 guns, 10 locked up in a safe, 5 not.
The guns locked up in a safe have caused exactly the same amount of violence than the 5 not locked up..
What am I doing wrong?
 
Lesse...
15 guns, 10 locked up in a safe, 5 not.
The guns locked up in a safe have caused exactly the same amount of violence than the 5 not locked up..
What am I doing wrong?

Unless of course one of the guns goes missing. Which do you think is most likely to go missing,the one in the safe or the one not?
 
See....if you leave law abiding gun owners alone.....because they don't commit the gun violence in the first place....and instead actually focus on the criminals using guns to commit crimes....wow....gosh gee willickers......you can cut down on your murder rate.........

New Orleans has stood at the top of the national murder charts many times in the last two decades, including every year between 2008 and 2012 for cities larger than 250,000. But by 2013, murders had dropped to 155 people, the lowest numbers seen in New Orleans since 1985, and a 20% drop from the year prior.

And to repeat....how did they lower their murder rate.......by actually going after criminals....and not focusing on law abiding gun owners......

This is one of the biggest problems with the anti gun extremist movement....by obsessing on guns.....and then obsessing on law abiding gun owners because they can actually control them with laws.....the anti gun extremists allow the real problem to grow and grow.......and more people die because of it....

If anti gun extremists would go after the prosecutors, judges and then encourage the police to arrest the violent criminals....they would actually lower the murder rate even more....

But of course, they don't care about the murder rate...not really......they just hate the fact that people can legally own and carry guns.......who cares if actual criminals are doing the murdering......as long as one, law abiding, peaceful, non violent citizen has a gun....that they don't use to commit crime.........then the anti gun extremists job is not done......

Yes you lower crime with policing.


And by allowing citizens to carry guns for self defense....since cops can't be everywhere...all the time....and criminals will rape, rob and murder at awkward times.......you know....when the police aren't actually around...

Of course, feel free to submit quietly brain.....I suggest you submit standing up with your eyes closed, kneeling in the presence of criminals just encourages them to be mean, and by closing your eyes you won't have to watch what they are doing to the rest of your family or friends........

No wonder republican mayors can't get elected. You guys want to follow failed Louisiana policy.


Brain.....that doesn't make any sense...democrats run those Louisiana cities with democrat policies.......they need Rudy Guiliani....

Well I guess you don't believe in democracy. Dems win cause the people want them. When you say you want Louisiana policy nationwide it's easy to see why. Highest gun murder rate in the country.


Brain, do you think before you post....I believe in democracy, I am an American Conservative after all.......and they get exactly what they vote for......vote for democrats, get lots of crime....I guess they like crime......

I definitely don't want democrat policies nation wide.....I don't like gun murder.........they disarm people, allow criminals to run free, and then the gun murder rate goes up......not what I want....

I want law abiding people armed if they want, and criminals in jail....if they use a gun to commit a crime and they are career criminals....a life sentence....that is how you lower the gun murder rate.
 
Here you have a case of a guy who used a gun to commit a crime.....and he was released back into the public....and then murdered a police officer with an illegal gun....how do we know it was illegal....he is a convicted felon, and the mere possession of a gun is illegal for him.....

The problem in this country isn't law abiding citizens owning or carrying guns for self defense. No, the problem is that prosecutors, and judges for some odd reason do not take gun crimes seriously....while at the same time their political masters bitch and moan about gun crime and then call for more gun control on people who don't use guns to commit crime.

There is a city in California, Richmond......they determined that 17 criminals were responsible for 76% of all the gun crime in their city.....and odds are these guys have long arrest records.

If you want to stop gun violence...treat actual criminals, who use guns to commit crime seriously......

If you are a convicted criminal, and use a gun to commit a crime, you should recieve a life sentence......and I am not talking about arresting John Q. Citizen who leaves a gun in his car in the wrong state...I am talking about career criminals who have long histories of crime who get caught with guns...should be locked up for life...

Because this guy...had he been locked up for life for the armed robbery...where he was sentenced to 10 years but was early released....he would not have been able to murder this police officer......

Authorities identify suspect wanted in fatal shooting of Memphis police officer during traffic stop Fox News


The alleged gunman who shot and killed a Memphis police officer during a traffic stop was free on supervised release stemming from a bank robbery conviction, FOX13 reported.

Tremaine Wilbourn, 29, was sentenced to 121 months in prison in February for the robbery. But Wilbourn, who had also been arrested in 2014 on a charge of aggravated robbery, paid a fine and agreed to mental health treatment on July 7.

Less than a month later, a warrant for first-degree murder has been issued for Wilbourn.

Apparently, career criminals who use guns to commit crimes are like pedophiles.....they can never be cured, and can never be trusted to not use guns again...so they must be locked up for the rest of their lives.....let that get around in these gang infested, inner city democrat controlled cities and see if that keeps the gun murder rate down...

If a felon is caught in the mere possession of a gun....they too should be sentenced to life in prison.........that is how you stop gun crime...

Not by making a normal, law abiding citizen get a license for a gun.....

SECOND LARGEST PER CAPITA PRISON POPULATION IN THE WORLD, and the problem is that not enough people are in prison?

Louisiana has the HIGHEST prison population in the US and Louisiana is not one of the safer states either.

So, on the international level you're talking rubbish, on the US level you're talking rubbish.

You keep peddling the same rubbish, anyone who tells you that you're wrong you insult and ignore. What is your agenda I wonder.....


The problem is they are not keeping gun criminals locked up....I have shown the links where career criminals serve little time for gun crime, get out and kill people with guns........

What is your solution for violent sociopaths....just let them wander around free...?
 

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