Ha ha ha....Who won? The Hill - Trump 58% Hillary 36%

Self selecting polls are worthless and it shows the level of desperation by Trump supporters that they haven't been able to show a single properly conducted poll that shows him winning the debate.

Put up your links to a properly conducted poll.

Clinton Victorious in First Two Debate Snap Polls

I put up far more. The sock wanted a properly conducted poll not a snap poll. But hey it's my thread. And as far as snap polls go Trump took out that old corrupt douche bag big time.
He was THAT bad.....you know it too.
 
How bad did Trump crater?

Election prediction markets, markets where people bet actual money, show a +7% shift for Clinton over the last day.

Election Betting Odds

CNN/ORC poll of debate viewers gave it to Clinton by 62-27. And 25% of people will always vote for their own party, no matter how badly they do. We're talking a complete rout.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/09/27/poll.pdf

The CNN focus group of undecided Florida voters went 18 of 20 for Clinton. Pennsylvania, 16 of 22.

And the media universally said Clinton won, even FOX, and they'll keep spinning it that way. "Trump's meltdown" gets them good ratings.

It was the most one-sided debate in the history of televised presidential debates. Clinton schlonged Trump hard, along with all of his loser fans. To deny that Clinton clobbered him, you either have to be paid by the Republicans, so in-the-tank for Republicans that you're proudly willing to lie, or completely detached from reality.

I do understand the problems Trump-losers have with accepting reality. They had this fantasy going where Trump was going to whip Clinton in the debates, and all the momentum would go his way, leading to his glorious victory. That dream was just smashed. There are now no scenarios that lead to a Trump win, and they know it, and they're not taking it well.
 
Trump resonated with the American people, with poor and middle class common sense voters who have been shit on by the politicians. Hillary well she resonated with the lying corrupt establishment politicians and their pond scum MSM suck ups. Man Trump is going to crush Hillary in the general.
 
Trump resonated with the American people, with poor and middle class common sense voters who have been shit on by the politicians. Hillary well she resonated with the lying corrupt establishment politicians and their pond scum MSM suck ups. Man Trump is going to crush Hillary in the general.
No, he did not, except in the minds of loonies. She did well.
 
How bad did Trump crater?

Election prediction markets, markets where people bet actual money, show a +7% shift for Clinton over the last day.

Election Betting Odds

CNN/ORC poll of debate viewers gave it to Clinton by 62-27. And 25% of people will always vote for their own party, no matter how badly they do. We're talking a complete rout.

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2016/images/09/27/poll.pdf

The CNN focus group of undecided Florida voters went 18 of 20 for Clinton. Pennsylvania, 16 of 22.

And the media universally said Clinton won, even FOX, and they'll keep spinning it that way. "Trump's meltdown" gets them good ratings.

It was the most one-sided debate in the history of televised presidential debates. Clinton schlonged Trump hard, along with all of his loser fans. To deny that Clinton clobbered him, you either have to be paid by the Republicans, so in-the-tank for Republicans that you're proudly willing to lie, or completely detached from reality.

I do understand the problems Trump-losers have with accepting reality. They had this fantasy going where Trump was going to whip Clinton in the debates, and all the momentum would go his way, leading to his glorious victory. That dream was just smashed. There are now no scenarios that lead to a Trump win, and they know it, and they're not taking it well.
You forgot someone who watched the debate. Julian Assange. HAAAAA HAAAAA! He's got a big MOAB and he's waiting for the exact right moment to drop it on Hillary's bleach blond hair.
I didn't realise Hillary had to wear a hearing aid.
 
You forgot someone who watched the debate. Julian Assange. HAAAAA HAAAAA! He's got a big MOAB and he's waiting for the exact right moment to drop it on Hillary's bleach blond hair.

Again?

He was supposed to have done that a dozen times already. I lost track.

You need to accept reality now, to avoid bigger pain later. Assange won't save you. Nothing will save you. You're going to lose big.
 
Both Trump and Clinton should have fact checkers online with the next debate.
 
Trump resonated with the American people, with poor and middle class common sense voters who have been shit on by the politicians. Hillary well she resonated with the lying corrupt establishment politicians and their pond scum MSM suck ups. Man Trump is going to crush Hillary in the general.
No, he did not, except in the minds of loonies. She did well.

Millions of people say you are wrong, tissue?
 
Trump resonated with the American people, with poor and middle class common sense voters who have been shit on by the politicians. Hillary well she resonated with the lying corrupt establishment politicians and their pond scum MSM suck ups. Man Trump is going to crush Hillary in the general.
No, he did not, except in the minds of loonies. She did well.
Millions of people say you are wrong, tissue?
The Trumpers did, while millions said she did well, and that is the general conclusion of the viewers and reviewers.
 
Trump resonated with the American people, with poor and middle class common sense voters who have been shit on by the politicians. Hillary well she resonated with the lying corrupt establishment politicians and their pond scum MSM suck ups. Man Trump is going to crush Hillary in the general.
No, he did not, except in the minds of loonies. She did well.
Millions of people say you are wrong, tissue?
The Trumpers did, while millions said she did well, and that is the general conclusion of the viewers and reviewers.

You have invented an alternate reality in your head, good luck with that in November.
 
Trump resonated with the American people, with poor and middle class common sense voters who have been shit on by the politicians. Hillary well she resonated with the lying corrupt establishment politicians and their pond scum MSM suck ups. Man Trump is going to crush Hillary in the general.
No, he did not, except in the minds of loonies. She did well.
Millions of people say you are wrong, tissue?
The Trumpers did, while millions said she did well, and that is the general conclusion of the viewers and reviewers.

You have invented an alternate reality in your head, good luck with that in November.
You may deny reality all you want, and that is where it will lead for Trump as well if he does it also: defeat. She did better than him last night, but it was no knock out as you all were hoping for a few saying it would happen.
 

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