Hamas Fires Rockets Into Southern Israel. Again.

[SAYIT]

Why should they not be among the targets in a retaliation by Israel?

Israel is not retaliating, it is the aggressor. The rockets are in retaliation to the illegal and immoral occupation and blockade. Get that through your god-damn fucking head!

Arab provocations were and have been at the root of the conflict since well before Israel declared its independence in 1948. Note that the Jewish resistance developed 1944 in response to the violent Arab revolt in 1936. Arabs always seem to believe their superior numbers will prevail:

There had been tension and conflict between the Arabs and the Jews, and between each of them and the British forces, ever since the 1917 Balfour Declaration and the 1920 creation of the British Mandate of Palestine. British policies dissatisfied both Arabs and Jews. The Arabs' opposition developed into the 1936–1939 Arab revolt in Palestine, while the Jewish resistance developed into the Jewish insurgency in Palestine (1944–1947).
On 15 May 1948 the ongoing civil war transformed into an inter-state conflict between Israel and the Arab states, following the Israeli Declaration of Independence the previous day. A combined invasion by Egypt, Jordan and Syria, together with expeditionary forces from Iraq, entered Palestine - Jordan having declared privately to Yishuv emissaries on 2 May it would abide by a decision not to attack the Jewish state. The invading forces took control of the Arab areas and immediately attacked Israeli forces and several Jewish settlements.

1948 Arab Israeli War - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia

 

[Phoenall]

If hamas can't secure their arms or the militants within gaza, why should Israel put up with being fired on and not blame hamas?

Because the reason for the rockets, is the occupation and blockade. You need to end the occupation and blockade, before you end the rockets.

Hamas still calling on palestinians to attack Israel. They are inciting the use of violence, so they are to blame even if it was not their thumb on the trigger.

They have every right in the world to resist Israeli occupation. Until that has ended, Israel should be attacked.

Gaza is the only real authority there right now, even if was illegal and by force.

It wasn't illegal and it wasn't by force. They won a fair, democratic election. Why do you continue to lie about this?

They are responsible for the flow of weapons into gaza.

Why can't they have weapons? Are you saying they're not allowed to defend themselves?

They are not trying to negotiate peace or teach their palestinians to adapt peaceful means to express frustration with their government or Israel relations.

Why should they? Until you end the occupation, there is no reason to do that.

They are not teaching acceptance of Israel in their schools, or allowing it in the UN schools.

Fuck Israeli acceptance! Nobody has to accept Israel for anything. Israel needs to accept that!

They are teaching the youngest children jihad, martyrdom and hate on TV and video games.

Wrong! A 50 year occupation is teaching them all the hate they need.

Why should they not be among the targets in a retaliation by Israel?

Israel is not retaliating, it is the aggressor. The rockets are in retaliation to the illegal and immoral occupation and blockade.

Get that through your god-damn fucking head!

No occupation and no blockade from 2005 and yet the rockets increased in numbers and frequency. Shows that you are wrong again.

Just as Israel has every right to respond to those attacks with deadly force

Because they resorted murder of children after they had won to reduce the chance of protest

 

[Phoenall]

You can post your OPINION 10 more times ... it still won't be evidence.

Why do you comment on things you know nothing about? If you had seen my posts, you would've seen the corroborative citations I provided.

You mean the propaganda from the white supremacist and Nazi Jew hatred sites you foul this board with. Yiu cant even see when a picture or a video has been doctored to meet with your POV

 

[Phoenall]

Once more that brief and pesky history lesson that somehow always slips your "mind":

Prior to the 6 Day War (1967) the Palestinians suffered no Israeli incursions, no Israeli presence and no Israeli security measures in either Gaza or the WB (including Jerusalem). In fact, in any of the 20 years preceding that war the Arabs could have forged their Palestinian State - if that had been on their list of important things to do - without Israel's cooperation. All they had to do was do it and the world would have embraced it. After 20 years of having their knife to Israel's throat the Arabs instigated another war which resulted in a new dynamic ... partial Israeli control over the WB and Gaza and total control of Jerusalem. Now the Palestinians will need Israel's cooperation to determine - among other issues - where their borders will be drawn. That is the price to be paid for their mistakes.

You're a fuckin' liar!

From the men who started the '67 war...

“I do not believe that Nasser wanted war. The two divisions which he sent into Sinai on 14 May would not have been enough to unleash an offensive against Israel. He knew it and we knew it.”
- Israeli Chief of Staff Rabin said in Le Monde on 28 February 1968

“The entire story of the danger of extermination was invented in every detail and exaggerated to justify the annexation of new Arab territory.”
- Mordecai Bentov, a member of the wartime national government in the Israeli newspaper Al-Hamishmar on 14 April 1971

“We were not threatened with genocide on the eve of the Six Day War, and we had never thought of such a possibility.”
- General Haim Bar-Lev, Rabin’s predecessor as chief of staff [in] the Israeli newspaper Ma’ariv on 4 April 1972

“There was never any danger of annihilation. This hypothesis has never been considered in any serious meeting.”
- General Ezer Weizmann, Chief of Operations during the war and a nephew of Chaim Weizmann

“The thesis according to which the danger of genocide hung over us in June 1967, and according to which Israel was fighting for her very physical survival, was nothing but a bluff which was born and bred after the war.”
- General Matetiyahu Peled, Chief of Logistical Command during the war and one of 12 members of Israel’s General Staff, In the spring of 1972

“Israel was never in real danger and there was no evidence that Egypt had any intention of attacking Israel. Israeli intelligence knew that Egypt was not prepared for war.”
- General Matetiyahu Peled

“There was no danger of annihilation. Neither Israeli headquarters nor the Pentagon – as the memoirs of President Johnson proved – believed in this danger.”
- General Chaim Herzog (a former Director of Military Intelligence, future Israeli Ambassador to the UN and President of his state


Like I said, you're a fuckin' liar!

your source is not trustworthy and has been known to write LIES, so anything coming from them is taken with a pinch of salt. Want to try again only this time using an unbiased non partisan source

 

[Billo_Really]

Oh my word. Now look what I have done to so upset you Bill by telling the truth. Let me make it up to you by enrolling you in an anger management course at my expense. Fair enough?

Fuck you! It's been a belligerent occupation for the last 50 years and you're not changing it now, fuckhead!

 

[Billo_Really]

Woo you conveniently ignored the point of my thread ... that for 20 years prior to their 6 Day Humiliation the Arabs controlled the WB, Gaza and all of Jerusalem yet in none of those years did they find statehood to be important enough to establish it. There would have been no Israeli "occupation" had they done so.
As for the claims about that war:
Prior to the start of the war, attacks conducted against Israel by fledgling Palestinian guerrilla groups based in Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan had increased, leading to costly Israeli reprisals. In November 1966 an Israeli strike on the village of Al-Samūʿ in the Jordanian West Bank left 18 dead and 54 wounded, and, during an air battle with Syria in April 1967, the Israeli Air Force shot down six Syrian MiG fighter jets. In addition, Soviet intelligence reports in May indicated that Israel was planning a campaign against Syria, and, although inaccurate, the information further heightened tensions between Israel and its Arab neighbours.
Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser had previously come under sharp criticism for his failure to aid Syria and Jordan against Israel; he had also been accused of hiding behind the United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) stationed at Egypt’s border with Israel in the Sinai. Now, however, he moved to unambiguously demonstrate support for Syria: on May 14, 1967, Nasser mobilized Egyptian forces in the Sinai; on May 18 he formally requested the removal of the UNEF stationed there; and on May 22 he closed the Gulf of Aqaba to Israeli shipping, thus instituting an effective blockade of the port city of Elat in southern Israel. On May 30, King Ḥussein of Jordan arrived in Cairo to sign a mutual defense pact with Egypt, placing Jordanian forces under Egyptian command; shortly thereafter, Iraq too joined the alliance.

As always, you're just a fucking ornery idiot.

Six-Day War Middle East 1967 Britannica.com

You didn't even read my post? Did you, you stupid bitch?

My link covered everything you just said, only from the Israeli point of view, by the "boot on the ground" who were involved. And they all said you are full of shit!

In addition to being a fuckin' liar, you're also a dumbass!

 

[Billo_Really]

your source is not trustworthy and has been known to write LIES, so anything coming from them is taken with a pinch of salt. Want to try again only this time using an unbiased non partisan source

The sources are from the Israeli generals and leaders who said them. You got anything proving they're lies?

I didn't think so.

 

[SAYIT]

Oh my word. Now look what I have done to so upset you Bill by telling the truth. Let me make it up to you by enrolling you in an anger management course at my expense. Fair enough?

Fuck you! It's been a belligerent occupation for the last 50 years and you're not changing it now, fuckhead!

Fuck you, .
Those hapless Palestinians had 20 years (1948-1967) to establish their precious state without Israeli cooperation but chose instead to establish squalid "refugee" camps in order to foster the hate and desperation necessary to fuel your war against the Joooz.

 

[SAYIT]

Woo you conveniently ignored the point of my thread ... that for 20 years prior to their 6 Day Humiliation the Arabs controlled the WB, Gaza and all of Jerusalem yet in none of those years did they find statehood to be important enough to establish it. There would have been no Israeli "occupation" had they done so.
As for the claims about that war:
Prior to the start of the war, attacks conducted against Israel by fledgling Palestinian guerrilla groups based in Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan had increased, leading to costly Israeli reprisals. In November 1966 an Israeli strike on the village of Al-Samūʿ in the Jordanian West Bank left 18 dead and 54 wounded, and, during an air battle with Syria in April 1967, the Israeli Air Force shot down six Syrian MiG fighter jets. In addition, Soviet intelligence reports in May indicated that Israel was planning a campaign against Syria, and, although inaccurate, the information further heightened tensions between Israel and its Arab neighbours.
Egyptian president Gamal Abdel Nasser had previously come under sharp criticism for his failure to aid Syria and Jordan against Israel; he had also been accused of hiding behind the United Nations Emergency Force (UNEF) stationed at Egypt’s border with Israel in the Sinai. Now, however, he moved to unambiguously demonstrate support for Syria: on May 14, 1967, Nasser mobilized Egyptian forces in the Sinai; on May 18 he formally requested the removal of the UNEF stationed there; and on May 22 he closed the Gulf of Aqaba to Israeli shipping, thus instituting an effective blockade of the port city of Elat in southern Israel. On May 30, King Ḥussein of Jordan arrived in Cairo to sign a mutual defense pact with Egypt, placing Jordanian forces under Egyptian command; shortly thereafter, Iraq too joined the alliance.

As always, you're just a fucking ornery idiot.

Six-Day War Middle East 1967 Britannica.com

You didn't even read my post? Did you, you stupid bitch?

My link covered everything you just said, only from the Israeli point of view, by the "boot on the ground" who were involved. And they all said you are full of shit!

In addition to being a fuckin' liar, you're also a dumbass!

My source (Encyclopedia Britanica) said your source (Nazis-R-Us) is full of camel crap.
In addition to being a fuckin' Nazi scumbag. you're a liar!

 

[SAYIT]

your source is not trustworthy and has been known to write LIES, so anything coming from them is taken with a pinch of salt. Want to try again only this time using an unbiased non partisan source

The sources are from the Israeli generals and leaders who said them. You got anything proving they're lies?

I didn't think so.

No they are not. They are from known Nazi website, Global Research.
Do you have anything which proves they are truth, Bitch?

 

[Roudy]

Oh my word. Now look what I have done to so upset you Bill by telling the truth. Let me make it up to you by enrolling you in an anger management course at my expense. Fair enough?

Fuck you! It's been a belligerent occupation for the last 50 years and you're not changing it now, fuckhead!

Fuck you, .
Those hapless Palestinians had 20 years (1948-1967) to establish their precious state without Israeli cooperation but chose instead to establish squalid "refugee" camps in order to foster the hate and desperation necessary to fuel your war against the Joooz.

Yup, there wasn't a peep out of anybody when Jordan and Egypt controlled the West Bank and Gaza for 20 years.

True story.

 

[Billo_Really]

your source is not trustworthy and has been known to write LIES, so anything coming from them is taken with a pinch of salt. Want to try again only this time using an unbiased non partisan source

The sources are from the Israeli generals and leaders who said them. You got anything proving they're lies?

I didn't think so.

No they are not. They are from known Nazi website, Global Research.
Do you have anything which proves they are truth, Bitch?

3 things:

• the site is Canadian and non-partisan
• ad hominems are not valid rebuttals
• the quotes are from Israeli media outlets

Since I've already provided my links, the burden of proof has shifted to the one who objects to my post. In this case, that would be you. So, you're the one who needs to provide evidence your objection is not frivolous. And so far, you haven't provided jack shit! All you've done, is shoot your fuckin' twat off!

Quid pro queef, mother-fucker!

 

[Billo_Really]

Fuck you, .
Those hapless Palestinians had 20 years (1948-1967) to establish their precious state without Israeli cooperation but chose instead to establish squalid "refugee" camps in order to foster the hate and desperation necessary to fuel your war against the Joooz.

Why would I hate Jews?

 

[RoccoR]

Billo_Really, et al,

Is it true?

Fuck you, .
Those hapless Palestinians had 20 years (1948-1967) to establish their precious state without Israeli cooperation but chose instead to establish squalid "refugee" camps in order to foster the hate and desperation necessary to fuel your war against the Joooz.

Why would I hate Jews?

(COMMENT)

Why would you be offended if it is true...?

Actually, the Arab Palestinians still haven't really achieved anything to be really proud of. The question is: Do they really want a nation?

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Phoenall]

Oh my word. Now look what I have done to so upset you Bill by telling the truth. Let me make it up to you by enrolling you in an anger management course at my expense. Fair enough?

Fuck you! It's been a belligerent occupation for the last 50 years and you're not changing it now, fuckhead!

Yes in response to terrorist attacks on Israeli children, bombings, shootings and violence since 1917 by the Palestinians against the Jews. But you don't see that as being part of the problem, after all it is only Jews that were being mass murdered wasn't it

 

[Phoenall]

your source is not trustworthy and has been known to write LIES, so anything coming from them is taken with a pinch of salt. Want to try again only this time using an unbiased non partisan source

The sources are from the Israeli generals and leaders who said them. You got anything proving they're lies?

I didn't think so.

No they are ALLEGEDLY from Israeli troops, but there is no supporting evidence. There is the proof you need of the possibility of it being a pack of lies. You really are very gullible when it comes to believing the Jew hatred reports you get from the anti semitic white supremacist sites.

 

[Phoenall]

Fuck you, .
Those hapless Palestinians had 20 years (1948-1967) to establish their precious state without Israeli cooperation but chose instead to establish squalid "refugee" camps in order to foster the hate and desperation necessary to fuel your war against the Joooz.

Why would I hate Jews?

Seems you don't understand what WHY means. Only you can answer the why as it is personal to you. I can answer the how and the what. Its like asking you why we would hate you with a vengeance.

 

[Phoenall]

your source is not trustworthy and has been known to write LIES, so anything coming from them is taken with a pinch of salt. Want to try again only this time using an unbiased non partisan source

The sources are from the Israeli generals and leaders who said them. You got anything proving they're lies?

I didn't think so.

No they are not. They are from known Nazi website, Global Research.
Do you have anything which proves they are truth, Bitch?

3 things:

• the site is Canadian and non-partisan
• ad hominems are not valid rebuttals
• the quotes are from Israeli media outlets

Since I've already provided my links, the burden of proof has shifted to the one who objects to my post. In this case, that would be you. So, you're the one who needs to provide evidence your objection is not frivolous. And so far, you haven't provided jack shit! All you've done, is shoot your fuckin' twat off!

Quid pro queef, mother-fucker!

Does not mean that it cant be biased, as this is the case with this site.

They are when it is shown that the site is biased, and is used because of its bias.

Without any supporting evidence, making them untrustworthy

The proof has been given just that you will not accept it because you are so steeped in Jew hatred.

You know you are wrong which is shown by your trailer park trash foul language thinking that it will compensate for your stupidity

 

[Billo_Really]

Why would you be offended if it is true...?

If it was, I guess I wouldn't.

But when someone calls me a Jew hater, I figure they have a reason for saying that. Well, what is that reason? If they can't tell me the reason why they said something, then they just think things for no apparent reason.

Actually, the Arab Palestinians still haven't really achieved anything to be really proud of. The question is: Do they really want a nation?

I can't answer that.

 

[Roudy]

your source is not trustworthy and has been known to write LIES, so anything coming from them is taken with a pinch of salt. Want to try again only this time using an unbiased non partisan source

The sources are from the Israeli generals and leaders who said them. You got anything proving they're lies?

I didn't think so.

No they are not. They are from known Nazi website, Global Research.
Do you have anything which proves they are truth, Bitch?

3 things:

• the site is Canadian and non-partisan
• ad hominems are not valid rebuttals
• the quotes are from Israeli media outlets

Since I've already provided my links, the burden of proof has shifted to the one who objects to my post. In this case, that would be you. So, you're the one who needs to provide evidence your objection is not frivolous. And so far, you haven't provided jack shit! All you've done, is shoot your fuckin' twat off!

Quid pro queef, mother-fucker!

The site is is anything but non partisan. It's a pile of garbage and conspiracy.