Harris wants the end of private health insurance in favor of govt. run plan...

[Rawley]

It seems as though she wants to offer universal health care including illegal aliens. The problem is that we don't know because she refuses to hold a press conference.

Until she comes out and says different that is her position.

trump needs to come out with the ad- "HARRIS HAS PROMISED TO TAKE AWAY YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE"

 

[Edgetho]

I've posted frequently and with substantiation. Please prove to me the benefits of Swiss system with accurate links.

Do NOT demand 'proof'. It is childish, confrontational and connotes a pre-emptive disbelief

The 'evidence' is right there for anybody to find. All you gotta do is google it. It's right there.

 

[TruthNotBS]

Gosh.
A liberal, leftist, democratic-socialist wants the government to have the power to control almost your entire life.
No. Way.

That's what capitalists do, not a democratic socialist government.

 

[toobfreak]

But, but...we would all be so much more productive.....

Productive as in the horse before the whip is.

and, and you don't know what National Debt is.....and, and.....

Last I checked, National Debt is money of mine the government spent before it had it, so will need to tax me more so it can further INCREASE spending.

 

[Foxfyre]

In fact, the Harris plan from 2019 could cost $44 trillion over a decade, according to a forthcoming analysis from health economist Stephen Parente and Theo Merkel at the American Action Forum. That includes some $1.8 trillion to cover some 11 million illegal immigrants.

MSN

It is on the record for those with the intellectual honesty to look for it. She wants to abolish all private health insurance and the federal government manage healthcare for all.

Do you want somebody like Kamala Harris having total control over what healthcare you will and will not be allowed to have and mandate what taxes you will pay to cover it? And no provision to opt out? It's what Kamala wants.

For you leftists, do you want somebody like Donald Trump having total control over what healthcare you will and will not be allowed to have and mandate what taxes you will pay to cover it? And no provision to opt out? (Trump does not want single payer insurance and promotes private insurance, but if the system is destroyed and there is no choice, sooner or later the GOP could be in control of your healthcare.)

 

[TruthNotBS]

Until she comes out and says different that is her position.

trump needs to come out with the ad- "HARRIS HAS PROMISED TO TAKE AWAY YOUR HEALTH INSURANCE"

Medicare or a government-run system is the most beloved one amongst the insurance plans in our country. I also love my VA another good medical system that has never failed me when I needed it.

 

[HikerGuy83]

In fact, the Harris plan from 2019 could cost $44 trillion over a decade, according to a forthcoming analysis from health economist Stephen Parente and Theo Merkel at the American Action Forum. That includes some $1.8 trillion to cover some 11 million illegal immigrants.

MSN

Wow...on a path to 100 trillion in debt.

I'll bet she has that as a personal goal.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Medicare or a government-run system is the most beloved one amongst the insurance plans in our country. I also love my VA another good medical system that has never failed me when I needed it.

According to who ? Seriously. I've never heard good things about the VA. Medicare is just insurance.

Now, what do we pay for it and how abused is it ?

Given how much we are being charged for it, I have to wonder.

 

[Donald H]

And those mixed economies are the most robust, successful and provide the best standard of living to their citizens. We're also going to have it here.

That's exactly right on capitalist systems being infiltrated with socialism. And that's what the fight is all about. We should be able to at least say that those who oppose socialist change, are not resisting the brainwashing that makes it out to be communism. Learn to resist and it becomes obvious that they only really want a piece of the American pie.

 

[Rawley]

Medicare or a government-run system is the most beloved one amongst the insurance plans in our country. I also love my VA another good medical system that has never failed me when I needed it.

Well, 180 million people have their own insurance and will likely be surprised that Harris has explicitly, explicitly promised to take it away.

 

[TruthNotBS]

According to who ? Seriously. I've never heard good things about the VA. Medicare is just insurance.

Now, what do we pay for it and how abused is it ?

Given how much we are being charged for it, I have to wonder.

According to those who are on it. All polls practically show high approval for Medicare. People who have it, value it and wouldn't want to go without it. As far as my VA, it has done nothing but good for me and my family.

 

[HikerGuy83]

As far as my VA, it has done nothing but good for me and my family.

That doesn't matter. I've know lots of people who hated it.

According to those who are on it. All polls practically show high approval for Medicare. People who have it, value it and wouldn't want to go without it

Not sure it is that easy. If we were really paying for it (and not letting it add to the debt) we'd be charging a lot more for Plan B and the basics would cover less.

But, any program where the government runs it can just keep running up debt or taxing people.

I don't doubt Medicare is good.

I don't like our current system.

But I don't think Medicare is the optimum.

Do you know how much you've paid in medicare taxes ?

 

[TruthNotBS]

That's exactly right on capitalist systems being infiltrated with socialism. And that's what the fight is all about. We should be able to at least say that those who oppose socialist change, are not resisting the brainwashing that makes it out to be communism. Learn to resist and it becomes obvious that they only really want a piece of the American pie.

What most Americans fail to realize is that socialism allows markets, and private property, within certain limits. There's also a clear distinction between private and personal property in socialism. Private property are all property that are used to exploit others for a profit. If you're exploiting or employing wage labor for a profit, then that property, those assets are private. All business-oriented properties aren't necessarily private property. So if you own your hardware shop, that you operate alone, your business isn't a "private property" in the socialist sense. If your wife and young adult children are working with you, that's a family business, and not a private property, where you're exploiting human labor for profit.

Personal property, unlike private property, are all of your properties for personal use. Your home, vehicle/s, computer/s, gun collection.etc, everything that is yours, for your personal use or the use of others to who you allow access to those properties and personal belongings.

People have a lot of misconceptions about socialism in America due to decades of Cold War capitalist propaganda.

 

[TruthNotBS]

That doesn't matter. I've know lots of people who hated it.


Not sure it is that easy. If we were really paying for it (and not letting it add to the debt) we'd be charging a lot more for Plan B and the basics would cover less.

But, any program where the government runs it can just keep running up debt or taxing people.

I don't doubt Medicare is good.

I don't like our current system.

But I don't think Medicare is the optimum.

Do you know how much you've paid in medicare taxes ?

The national debt isn't a debt, it's just how much money is currently invested in the private sector. It's the people's surplus.

 

[Independent thinker]

If you're going to have a market with a currency, then yes, MMT or Modern Monetary Theory, will clarify for you how our money system works, in a market economy like ours.

Yes, we know how it works. Charge up the national debt, print all the money you want, and pay through the nose with high inflation.

 

[Independent thinker]

The national debt isn't a debt, it's just how much money is currently invested in the private sector. It's the people's surplus.

So now 35 trillion is actually a surplus?

 

[lafayette]

She wants a split program.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Good for her.

It's refreshing to see an American candidate who is not afraid to talk as if they live in the 21st century.

 

[Foxfyre]

Medicare or a government-run system is the most beloved one amongst the insurance plans in our country. I also love my VA another good medical system that has never failed me when I needed it.

But should either fail you or you find a better deal, you do have the liberty to opt out of both. You have to enroll in both to get what benefits they offer. Both have to compete against possible private enterprise and therefore maintain much more integrity and competence than they otherwise would likely have.

Kamala wants you to have no opportunity to opt out and those in government will determine what healthcare you MUST have or CANNOT have with no alternative being available. Likely the VA would be dissolved as veterans would be covered by the same healthcare everybody else would be required to have.

 

[jbrownson0831]

So now 35 trillion is actually a surplus?

People's surplus...hahahahahahahahahahaha
Is this guy from earth?