Hey hey, ho ho! They don’t know

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Hey hey, ho ho! They don’t know
It’s easy for journalists to cover a protest rally. And that’s who most modern protests are targeting — the media. It’s an exercise in PR.

The quick and easy formula for reporters is to make a rough estimate of how many protesters attend, take some pictures of the most colourful signs and costumes, get a bumper-sticker-deep slogan quote from a spokesman, and you’re done.

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But instead of leaving — as most busy journalists have to do in order to meet their deadlines — I stuck around for two more hours. I introduced myself to more than a dozen of the protesters. And I learned something that I’m sure I wouldn’t have learned had I followed the usual media formula.

The first thing I learned is these protesters were clueless about the pipeline they were protesting, and about oil and economics in general.

I asked one of the protesters, Mike Roy, why he is only protesting the pipeline now, even though it’s been operating without incident since the 1970s. He seemed genuinely surprised to learn this. I asked him why he only opposes the plan to put Alberta oil in it, but was fine with it pumping OPEC crude for decades.

At first Roy simply refused to believe me. He was confused about how OPEC oil could be pumped from Alberta. He didn’t understand that the pipeline was operating now, with Saudi and Algerian oil now. The Alberta plan would be a change — that’s the “reverse” part that he was protesting. He didn’t know that.

When I pressed him on why he prefers Saudi oil in Line 9, he said he opposes Saudi oil too. But he couldn’t explain why he has never protested Saudi oil before, let alone protested at the Saudi embassy. I asked these same questions of a half dozen protesters, and all were confused. One woman proposed an excuse: she prefers Saudi oil, she says, because it’s “sweet oil.” I think she believes that means it’s like sugar water, so it’s better for the environment. Others pretended not to use any oil at all — as if you can bicycle to work in Hamilton in February.

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They’re professional protesters, who go from town to town on whatever the cause of the day is — Occupy, Idle No More, anti-GMO food, whatever. That’s why they didn’t know anything about the pipeline. They didn’t care. They just like protesting.

But it got darker. Because the more I looked, the more I realized these protesters were not just idealistic young people trying to heal the world. They were dominated by an inner circle of hard-core anarchists. Like Peter Hopperton. He was sentenced to five months in prison for rioting at the G20 in Toronto in 2010. Dave Prychitka was there too. He also rioted, but charges against him were dropped. Roy, Lamon and Beaudoin have all been charged with crimes too.

You wouldn’t know these things if you were a reporter too busy to find out. Or too sympathetic to their cause to find out.​

Ignorant and angry. Pretty much sums up progressives, doesn't it?
 
Hey hey, ho ho! They don’t know
It’s easy for journalists to cover a protest rally. And that’s who most modern protests are targeting — the media. It’s an exercise in PR.

The quick and easy formula for reporters is to make a rough estimate of how many protesters attend, take some pictures of the most colourful signs and costumes, get a bumper-sticker-deep slogan quote from a spokesman, and you’re done.

--

But instead of leaving — as most busy journalists have to do in order to meet their deadlines — I stuck around for two more hours. I introduced myself to more than a dozen of the protesters. And I learned something that I’m sure I wouldn’t have learned had I followed the usual media formula.

The first thing I learned is these protesters were clueless about the pipeline they were protesting, and about oil and economics in general.

I asked one of the protesters, Mike Roy, why he is only protesting the pipeline now, even though it’s been operating without incident since the 1970s. He seemed genuinely surprised to learn this. I asked him why he only opposes the plan to put Alberta oil in it, but was fine with it pumping OPEC crude for decades.

At first Roy simply refused to believe me. He was confused about how OPEC oil could be pumped from Alberta. He didn’t understand that the pipeline was operating now, with Saudi and Algerian oil now. The Alberta plan would be a change — that’s the “reverse” part that he was protesting. He didn’t know that.

When I pressed him on why he prefers Saudi oil in Line 9, he said he opposes Saudi oil too. But he couldn’t explain why he has never protested Saudi oil before, let alone protested at the Saudi embassy. I asked these same questions of a half dozen protesters, and all were confused. One woman proposed an excuse: she prefers Saudi oil, she says, because it’s “sweet oil.” I think she believes that means it’s like sugar water, so it’s better for the environment. Others pretended not to use any oil at all — as if you can bicycle to work in Hamilton in February.

--

They’re professional protesters, who go from town to town on whatever the cause of the day is — Occupy, Idle No More, anti-GMO food, whatever. That’s why they didn’t know anything about the pipeline. They didn’t care. They just like protesting.

But it got darker. Because the more I looked, the more I realized these protesters were not just idealistic young people trying to heal the world. They were dominated by an inner circle of hard-core anarchists. Like Peter Hopperton. He was sentenced to five months in prison for rioting at the G20 in Toronto in 2010. Dave Prychitka was there too. He also rioted, but charges against him were dropped. Roy, Lamon and Beaudoin have all been charged with crimes too.

You wouldn’t know these things if you were a reporter too busy to find out. Or too sympathetic to their cause to find out.
Ignorant and angry. Pretty much sums up progressives, doesn't it?

Ignorant is obvious...angry? At what? Their lives?

Nice post.
 
Modern journalists doe't even bother with the basics, who, what, where, when, why and how. Every story is an opinion piece usually with moderate to severe spin designed to make a political point. It's a fact of life and people should be aware of it.
 
Ignorant is obvious...angry? At what? Their lives?

Nice post.

Republicans.

I don't think they even know. From what I read? These people have no idea...but have to be doing something...what is yet to be determined, and blaming it on what they've been coached to be angry at...without ever understanding why.
 
Good post and I'm so tired of hearing........"what do we want.....when do we want it".

They just copy each like from a script. They were saying those exact words in the 60's.
 
Hey hey, ho ho! They don’t know
It’s easy for journalists to cover a protest rally. And that’s who most modern protests are targeting — the media. It’s an exercise in PR.

The quick and easy formula for reporters is to make a rough estimate of how many protesters attend, take some pictures of the most colourful signs and costumes, get a bumper-sticker-deep slogan quote from a spokesman, and you’re done.

--

But instead of leaving — as most busy journalists have to do in order to meet their deadlines — I stuck around for two more hours. I introduced myself to more than a dozen of the protesters. And I learned something that I’m sure I wouldn’t have learned had I followed the usual media formula.

The first thing I learned is these protesters were clueless about the pipeline they were protesting, and about oil and economics in general.

I asked one of the protesters, Mike Roy, why he is only protesting the pipeline now, even though it’s been operating without incident since the 1970s. He seemed genuinely surprised to learn this. I asked him why he only opposes the plan to put Alberta oil in it, but was fine with it pumping OPEC crude for decades.

At first Roy simply refused to believe me. He was confused about how OPEC oil could be pumped from Alberta. He didn’t understand that the pipeline was operating now, with Saudi and Algerian oil now. The Alberta plan would be a change — that’s the “reverse” part that he was protesting. He didn’t know that.

When I pressed him on why he prefers Saudi oil in Line 9, he said he opposes Saudi oil too. But he couldn’t explain why he has never protested Saudi oil before, let alone protested at the Saudi embassy. I asked these same questions of a half dozen protesters, and all were confused. One woman proposed an excuse: she prefers Saudi oil, she says, because it’s “sweet oil.” I think she believes that means it’s like sugar water, so it’s better for the environment. Others pretended not to use any oil at all — as if you can bicycle to work in Hamilton in February.

--

They’re professional protesters, who go from town to town on whatever the cause of the day is — Occupy, Idle No More, anti-GMO food, whatever. That’s why they didn’t know anything about the pipeline. They didn’t care. They just like protesting.

But it got darker. Because the more I looked, the more I realized these protesters were not just idealistic young people trying to heal the world. They were dominated by an inner circle of hard-core anarchists. Like Peter Hopperton. He was sentenced to five months in prison for rioting at the G20 in Toronto in 2010. Dave Prychitka was there too. He also rioted, but charges against him were dropped. Roy, Lamon and Beaudoin have all been charged with crimes too.

You wouldn’t know these things if you were a reporter too busy to find out. Or too sympathetic to their cause to find out.​

Ignorant and angry. Pretty much sums up progressives, doesn't it?

Ignorant? no. Highly misinformed and to fucking lazy to check facts? yea

angry? yea, but to fucking dumb to actually know why


Our gens hippies. down with the man. Who's the man? :dunno: Power to the people! who's the people? the same fucking hippies that are fucking shit up now in DC. also known as "the man"
 
Ignorant is obvious...angry? At what? Their lives?

Nice post.

Republicans.

I don't think they even know. From what I read? These people have no idea...but have to be doing something...what is yet to be determined, and blaming it on what they've been coached to be angry at...without ever understanding why.

it's the monkeys in the cage.

5 monkeys in a cage with fruit at the top of a ladder.
when one goes for the fruit, they get hosed with cold water
once they stop going for the fruit, replace one with a new one
new goes for the fruit and the monkeys kick his ass for trying, b/c they know about the hose.
until that monkey stops trying
keep repeating the cycle and no monkey will ever get the fruit

b/c all the monkeys know to kick the ass of any monkey that goes for the fruit w/o know why
 
Ignorant is obvious...angry? At what? Their lives?

Nice post.

Republicans.

I don't think they even know. From what I read? These people have no idea...but have to be doing something...what is yet to be determined, and blaming it on what they've been coached to be angry at...without ever understanding why.

Like the Occupy idiots:

"What do we want?!"

"We don't know!!"

"When do we want it?!"

"NOW!!"
 

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