Hey RWs: if you're so opposed to raising the min. wage, what exactly do you think would boost wages?

[Hutch Starskey]

Wages in America in the lower classes have been stagnant for DECADES while the cost of living continues to rise. Meanwhile, most of the income gains have gone to the top 1% of earners. This is all while productivity in the lower classes has skyrocketed in the last few decades.

If you're so opposed to raising the minimum wage to ANY level, how exactly are we supposed to boost wages? Keep in mind 1/4 of the workforce in America makes less than $10 per hour. 10s of millions more make less than $15 per hour. That means we are facing a serious wage crisis that 10s of millions of Americans have NO CHOICE but to endure. Higher wage jobs are scarce and extremely competitive and even most of them pay less than it what is required for the current cost of living standards.

What specific policies would fix this? Now many of you may claim deporting all illegals would boost wages, but not only would this skyrocket the deficit, it would take decades to achieve. Even if we did pull this off, it's not like businesses across the country would collectively say "well all the illegals are gone. I guess I have a moral obligation to pay my workers more!". Don't be stupid.

Corporate profits are already at an all time high. That means cutting taxes on top earners/corporations or deregulating wouldn't do jack shit improve the economy. That's mostly because those policies never have anyway.

So let's hear them. What are your brilliant solutions? Obviously no republicans in office have any ideas. They prey upon your ignorance.

A good economy increases wages. The economy gets better, businesses expand, more jobs are created, competition amongst employers leads to higher wages.

If you are talking about McDonalds, no burger flipper deserves $15 no matter how scarce they are.

You have it exactly backwards. Good wages grow the economy and create more jobs.

 

[Mr Natural]

Do you know what might raise wages? Kicking 11 million illegals out of this country. That is 11 million new job openings for American citizens.

Jobs that Americans won't do.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

its called the market -- and though liberals think you can legislate every problem they cant repeal the law of supply and demand.

I'll ask again since no one can seem to answer. What market forces have acted on wages to keep them flat for decades?

jobs have gone overseas....
cheap labor incoming from mexico, india, etc...
too many regulations crushing businesses....
too many taxes crushing businesses...

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you know what might raise wages? Kicking 11 million illegals out of this country. That is 11 million new job openings for American citizens.

Jobs that Americans won't do.

As well as the lowest paying jobs possible.

 

[kaz]

All I see from cons is " let the market work".
What market? What market forces are acting to keep wages flat for decades? Profits up, productivity up, those were historically the best upward forces acting on wages. What are they now? Could it be that there is simply be the absence of any significant advocates for workers?

The market provides you opportunity. It's on you to take advantage of it

By your logic there must be millions of unfilled 100K a yr jobs out there waiting for the slackers to get off of their ass and just get it. Pure fantasy.

Absolutely there are. Everyone worth $100K will get it. The only thing holding you back is you. All they don't do is not pay you $100K when you're not worth it. You get paid for the economic value you provide

 

[Hutch Starskey]

its called the market -- and though liberals think you can legislate every problem they cant repeal the law of supply and demand.

I'll ask again since no one can seem to answer. What market forces have acted on wages to keep them flat for decades?

jobs have gone overseas....
cheap labor incoming from mexico, india, etc...
too many regulations crushing businesses....
too many taxes crushing businesses...

Taxes and regulation crushing business?

 

[kaz]

Do you know what might raise wages? Kicking 11 million illegals out of this country. That is 11 million new job openings for American citizens.

Jobs that Americans won't do.

What a load of crap. Democrats love to mindlessly chant this canard.

In a free market, everything will equalize where the right amount of labor is paid at the right wage. You've skewed labor rates by importing illegal aliens, that's the reason wages are below what an American would do the job for

 

[kaz]

its called the market -- and though liberals think you can legislate every problem they cant repeal the law of supply and demand.

I'll ask again since no one can seem to answer. What market forces have acted on wages to keep them flat for decades?

jobs have gone overseas....
cheap labor incoming from mexico, india, etc...
too many regulations crushing businesses....
too many taxes crushing businesses...

Taxes and regulation crushing business?

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You probably can't read your own chart, do you realize it says that wages are four times corporate profits? You don't, do you?

 

[PredFan]

Wages in America in the lower classes have been stagnant for DECADES while the cost of living continues to rise. Meanwhile, most of the income gains have gone to the top 1% of earners. This is all while productivity in the lower classes has skyrocketed in the last few decades.

If you're so opposed to raising the minimum wage to ANY level, how exactly are we supposed to boost wages? Keep in mind 1/4 of the workforce in America makes less than $10 per hour. 10s of millions more make less than $15 per hour. That means we are facing a serious wage crisis that 10s of millions of Americans have NO CHOICE but to endure. Higher wage jobs are scarce and extremely competitive and even most of them pay less than it what is required for the current cost of living standards.

What specific policies would fix this? Now many of you may claim deporting all illegals would boost wages, but not only would this skyrocket the deficit, it would take decades to achieve. Even if we did pull this off, it's not like businesses across the country would collectively say "well all the illegals are gone. I guess I have a moral obligation to pay my workers more!". Don't be stupid.

Corporate profits are already at an all time high. That means cutting taxes on top earners/corporations or deregulating wouldn't do jack shit improve the economy. That's mostly because those policies never have anyway.

So let's hear them. What are your brilliant solutions? Obviously no republicans in office have any ideas. They prey upon your ignorance.

A good economy increases wages. The economy gets better, businesses expand, more jobs are created, competition amongst employers leads to higher wages.

If you are talking about McDonalds, no burger flipper deserves $15 no matter how scarce they are.

You have it exactly backwards. Good wages grow the economy and create more jobs.

No, they do not. Your math skills suck pal.

 

[ScreamingEagle]

its called the market -- and though liberals think you can legislate every problem they cant repeal the law of supply and demand.

I'll ask again since no one can seem to answer. What market forces have acted on wages to keep them flat for decades?

jobs have gone overseas....
cheap labor incoming from mexico, india, etc...
too many regulations crushing businesses....
too many taxes crushing businesses...

Taxes and regulation crushing business?

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big business is doing just fine.....but corporatism is a variation of the socialists game....and only the favored survive....

small business, however, is not doing so great and it is what hires most working Americans.....Obama has been doing all he can to decimate the middle class....

 

[PredFan]

Look morons, the OP asked a question and we answered it.

Don't like the answer? Well stay stupid then.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Surprise surprise Billy only reads here what he wants to read.

Raise the EITC , raising the national Minimum wage don't do a God Damn thing to help the poor except make some with out a fucking job.


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You do know the minimum wage has been raised many times before and nothing catastrophic happened right? Yeah, sure, some small businesses would suffer, but millions of people would have higher wages. Prices may go up depending on how high, but it wouldn't be enough to offset the hundreds of dollars more a month people would make. Over time the boost to consumer spending would CREATE jobs.

So tell me jackass, how do we boost wages? We both know you have no idea.

Again fool can't you read?

Wages is just a fucking
number


Cost of living and buying power is what you should be after.



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Oh Christ, stop pretending you know how to fix the problem. We both know you don't know jack shit about economics.

Are you drinking again ?

It seems every time you get inebriated....we see this same recycle topic.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Love this Merry-Go-Round....

Small business promotion is how wages level out.

Big business really enjoys the protection all those morons in congress give them....and they keep small business from happening.

Want to spread the wealth...make it easier to start a business.

Get rid of those stupid regulations and requirements...and let people do what they have a strong desire to do.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Learn a skill so you're worth more.

Is there a skill and a corresponding position for everyone?

There isn't any shortage of skills to be learned

Answer the question.

I did.

 

[Skull Pilot]

All I see from cons is " let the market work".
What market? What market forces are acting to keep wages flat for decades? Profits up, productivity up, those were historically the best upward forces acting on wages. What are they now? Could it be that there is simply be the absence of any significant advocates for workers?

Productivity is up because technology now allows unskilled laborers to perform tasks that only highly skilled people used to be able to do
And what sector of the economy has been outpacing others for a while now?

Technology

Answer the question.

I did

 

[Hutch Starskey]

its called the market -- and though liberals think you can legislate every problem they cant repeal the law of supply and demand.

I'll ask again since no one can seem to answer. What market forces have acted on wages to keep them flat for decades?

jobs have gone overseas....
cheap labor incoming from mexico, india, etc...
too many regulations crushing businesses....
too many taxes crushing businesses...

Taxes and regulation crushing business?

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You probably can't read your own chart, do you realize it says that wages are four times corporate profits? You don't, do you?

Really?
The divergent lines show quite clearly that regulations and taxes aren't crushing business at all but business is indeed crushing wages

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Wages in America in the lower classes have been stagnant for DECADES while the cost of living continues to rise. Meanwhile, most of the income gains have gone to the top 1% of earners. This is all while productivity in the lower classes has skyrocketed in the last few decades.

If you're so opposed to raising the minimum wage to ANY level, how exactly are we supposed to boost wages? Keep in mind 1/4 of the workforce in America makes less than $10 per hour. 10s of millions more make less than $15 per hour. That means we are facing a serious wage crisis that 10s of millions of Americans have NO CHOICE but to endure. Higher wage jobs are scarce and extremely competitive and even most of them pay less than it what is required for the current cost of living standards.

What specific policies would fix this? Now many of you may claim deporting all illegals would boost wages, but not only would this skyrocket the deficit, it would take decades to achieve. Even if we did pull this off, it's not like businesses across the country would collectively say "well all the illegals are gone. I guess I have a moral obligation to pay my workers more!". Don't be stupid.

Corporate profits are already at an all time high. That means cutting taxes on top earners/corporations or deregulating wouldn't do jack shit improve the economy. That's mostly because those policies never have anyway.

So let's hear them. What are your brilliant solutions? Obviously no republicans in office have any ideas. They prey upon your ignorance.

A good economy increases wages. The economy gets better, businesses expand, more jobs are created, competition amongst employers leads to higher wages.

If you are talking about McDonalds, no burger flipper deserves $15 no matter how scarce they are.

You have it exactly backwards. Good wages grow the economy and create more jobs.

No, they do not. Your math skills suck pal.

What grows the economy professor?

70% of the GDP is consumer spending and 90% of consumers make less than 100K. Now show me where an increase in wages for the bulk of consumers would not create spending and growth.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Look morons, the OP asked a question and we answered it.

Don't like the answer? Well stay stupid then.

That's hilarious.
You're too dumb to even realize you're dumb.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

All I see from cons is " let the market work".
What market? What market forces are acting to keep wages flat for decades? Profits up, productivity up, those were historically the best upward forces acting on wages. What are they now? Could it be that there is simply be the absence of any significant advocates for workers?

Productivity is up because technology now allows unskilled laborers to perform tasks that only highly skilled people used to be able to do
And what sector of the economy has been outpacing others for a while now?

Technology

Answer the question.

I did

No, you didn't.
Market forces fluctuate, they don't remain nearly stagnant for decades. What market forces act to keep wages stagnant? What forces act upward on wages and why aren't they present even in the face of record profits over the same period?

You've said nothing per usual.

 

[Ridgerunner]

Bill, Bill from over the hill
Never worked and never will...

Billy000 needs to start a business and hire some folks and pay them what ever the freak he wants...

What a dumbass...