High School play depicts rape, filthy acts, language and public urination

[Blackrook]

High school kids have no business on the "cutting edge of art." Let them do West Side Story or Guys and Dolls. Leave the "cutting edge art" to grownups.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

Leave it to the "I want to jack off in public" crowd to celebrate this high school play.

 

[LoneLaugher]

I don't think Trump would approve of the rampant PC that our nutbags are expressing in this thread. Or.....would he?

 

[AvgGuyIA]

I don't think Trump would approve of the rampant PC that our nutbags are expressing in this thread. Or.....would he?

Another celebrant.

 

[mdk]

High school kids have no business on the "cutting edge of art." Let them do West Side Story or Guys and Dolls. Leave the "cutting edge art" to grownups.

A guy pretending to take a piss on stage!? Awful, a godless society we've become!

They should do West Side Story instead! A musical about violent criminal gangs where people murder each other. lol

You overly-dramatic whiners crack me up.

 

[aaronleland]

High school kids have no business on the "cutting edge of art." Let them do West Side Story or Guys and Dolls. Leave the "cutting edge art" to grownups.

A guy pretending to take a piss on stage!? Awful, a godless society we've become!

They should do West Side Story instead! A musical about violent criminal gangs where people murder each other. lol

You overly-dramatic whiners crack me up.

You're only defending it because of the male-on-male rape.

 

[mdk]

High school kids have no business on the "cutting edge of art." Let them do West Side Story or Guys and Dolls. Leave the "cutting edge art" to grownups.

A guy pretending to take a piss on stage!? Awful, a godless society we've become!

They should do West Side Story instead! A musical about violent criminal gangs where people murder each other. lol

You overly-dramatic whiners crack me up.

You're only defending it because of the male-on-male rape.

I, and the rest of us that to 'want to jack off in public' cheered so loudly at the scene they made us leave the day care where the play was being performed.

 

[Alex.]

"Holy Day potently depicts the uneasy silences, pacts and conflicts between whites and blacks. In its most explosive moments, the abusive, lawless and alienating deeds of the people themselves assume a savagery that not even the remote landscape with all its treacheries and tricks can compete with."

It was raw, dramatic and real, exactly what a good professional production should be. I felt that I had been taken somewhere and left to contemplate the dark side of humanity.

No rules were broken. UIL requires that any play not on the official list of approved plays go through certain protocols, and these protocols have been met, including a sign off by the principal of the school."

How edgy should high-school theater be?

I like musicals, but there is nothing at all wrong with this story, production or presentation at this level.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

A guy pretending to take a piss on stage!? Awful, a godless society we've become!

They should do West Side Story instead! A musical about violent criminal gangs where people murder each other. lol

You overly-dramatic whiners crack me up.

Have we discovered another celebrant of public sex?
Are we talking about legal minors pissing on stage and other simulated vile acts? How about a sexy pole dance by the homecoming queen?

Btw, gangs who perform pirouettes on the way to a "rumble" in the streets of New York probably don't have murder on their minds.

 

[mdk]

A guy pretending to take a piss on stage!? Awful, a godless society we've become!

They should do West Side Story instead! A musical about violent criminal gangs where people murder each other. lol

You overly-dramatic whiners crack me up.

Have we discovered another celebrant of public sex?
Are we talking about legal minors pissing on stage and other simulated vile acts? How about a sexy pole dance by the homecoming queen?

Btw, gangs who perform pirouettes on the way to a "rumble" in the streets of New York probably don't have murder on their minds.

No, we talking about how you are clutching your pearls over an award winning play b/c it offend your already delicate constitution. Starnes has a habit of blowing things our of proportion b/c it fits his 'the world is neigh' narrative and the easily offended are more then happy to oblige his hysterics.

West Story Story should not be allowed in high-school b/c it depicts violence and murder! Clearly not suitable for high-school students.

Aersnic and Old Lace should be out as well. Those sweet old ladies were serial killers and that is far too edgy for high-school students.

Can you cobble together a list of plays and musicals that students shouldn't be allowed to perform b/c it offends your sensibilities?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Do you know what "non sequitur fallacy" means?

According to this website:

Non Sequitur

A non sequitur fallacy takes the following form:

Claim A is made.

Evidence is presented for Claim A.

Therefore, claim C is true.

Example #1:

People generally like to walk on the beach. Beaches have sand. Therefore, having sand floors in homes would be a great idea!

Explanation: As cool as the idea of sand floors might sound, the conclusion does not follow from the premises. The fact that people generally like to walk on sand does not mean that they want sand in their homes, just like because people generally like to swim, they shouldn’t flood their houses.

Example #2:

Buddy Burger has the greatest food in town. Buddy Burger was voted #1 by the local paper. Therefore, Phil, the owner of Buddy Burger, should run for President of the United States.

Explanation: I bet Phil makes one heck of a burger, but it does not follow that he should be President.

Exception: There really is no exceptions to this rule. Any good argument must have a conclusion that follows from the premises.

Tip: One of the best ways to expose non sequiturs is by constructing a valid analogy that exposes the absurdity in the argument.

Variations: There are many forms of non sequiturs including argument by scenario, where an irrelevant scenario is given in an attempt to support the conclusion. Other forms use different rhetorical devices that are irrelevant to the conclusion.

False or questionable premises could be seen as errors in facts, but they can also lead to the conclusion not following, so just keep that in mind, as well.


Please explain how what I said is a "non sequitur fallacy."

And your post is an example of such a fallacy, the bible is irrelevant concerning the thread topic.

 

[Mac1958]

And the decay of our culture continues, cheered on by the usual suspects.

 

[aris2chat]

(Bold Italics are excerpts taken from the article)

Carnegie Vanguard High School’s one act play had a little something for everyone: depictions of male-on-male rape, male-on-female rape, filthy language, on-stage urination, and an actress who simulated wiping her private parts at center stage. Oh yes, there was also a scene where a male cast member turned his back to the audience and dropped his pants, as fellow cast members deliver dialogue about the size of his appendage.
[Don’t you just love how avant garde “art” edifies our culture?]

The parent told me he confronted Carnegie’s principal immediately after the performance – but his concerns were dismissed. “At first, he said, ‘well ,you know, everyone has a different tolerance level,’” the parent said. “I told him, ‘No, sir. You cannot possibly tell me that it’s appropriate for any audience for a young lady to portray wiping her vagina after having sex behind a prop on stage.’”
[Is this principal a pervert?]

The district released a statement defending the theatrical production – noting they are “extremely proud” and they stand by the students “100 percent.”
[ Extremely proud? Now maybe you liberals can better understand why we deplore our educators who are so hung up on nothing but sexual liberty and choice, and gay is beautiful, and embrace the transgender movement, and watch this graphic video how to have sex, and we can get you a secret free abortion, and grab a bunch of condoms on your way out of class --- all the while castigating Christian thought and its morals.]

“People were disgusted and there was complete shock at what they had just seen,” he told me. “Elementary-aged children were exposed to this show.”
[“Yes, so? You want us educators to leave it to clueless parents how to expose them to safe sex and all that?”]

(One mother of a cast member student defended it asking ) “Isn’t theater supposed to challenge people?” she opined.
[Challenge? You mean like watching a student piss into a bucket on stage? The godless in this nation are blind and the Christians like me are cowards or maybe just giving up.]

An (approving) Houston Chronicle columnist described the show as “psychologically intense, an exploration of subjects such as violence, sex and race.”
[Boy if there is anything we can say our high schools now excel in it is the exploration of violence, sex and race. These educators need to be shot.]

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School play depicts rape, filthy language and public urination | Fox News

High School play depicts rape, filthy language and public urination

Carnegie Vanguard High School’s one act play had a little something for everyone: depictions of male-on-male rape, male-on-female rape, filthy language, on-stage urination, and an actress who simulated wiping her private parts at center stage. Oh yes, there was also a scene where a male cast member turned his back to the audience and dropped his pants, as fellow cast members deliver dialogue about the size of his appendage.

The Houston high school’s racy production of “Holy Day” has generated great angst among the good church-going people of the Lone Star State. “Hello Dolly” it is not.

A Houston Chronicle columnist described the show as “psychologically intense, an exploration of subjects such as violence, sex and race.”

Carnegie’s eyebrow-raising show recently advanced in the Texas One-Act Play Contest – leading to a number of complaints – mostly from the parents of teen actors at competing schools.

“I was completely flabbergasted at the content,” one parent who saw the production told me.

One enraged father who attended the April 23 Region III-6A play competition filed a formal complaint with the Houston Independent School District.

“I was deeply offended by the obscene and inappropriate content,” the parent wrote – demanding the school be disqualified from the competition.

I spoke at length with the father, a former public school educator for 18 years. He asked that I not disclose his name – fearing it might cause trouble for his children.

His son was also competing in the one-act play competition – representing a different school. He said many people were shocked by what they saw during Carnegie’s performance.

“People were disgusted and there was complete shock at what they had just seen,” he told me. “Elementary-aged children were exposed to this show.”

The parent told me he confronted Carnegie’s principal immediately after the performance – but his concerns were dismissed.

“At first, he said, ‘well ,you know, everyone has a different tolerance level,’” the parent said. “I told him, ‘No, sir. You cannot possibly tell me that it’s appropriate for any audience for a young lady to portray wiping her vagina after having sex behind a prop on stage.’”

The University Interscholastic League told me they are “aware of some concerns” and are investigating the content of Carnegie’s play.

“UIL is making every effort to follow up with members of the public that have expressed concerns,” a spokesman wrote in a statement. “The administration of the producing school shall assure that the director complies with these requirements and that the play does not offend the moral standards of the community.”

Apparently the moral standards within the Houston Independent School District are not all that high.

“Such obscene and offensive language and content has no place in any high school in the state of Texas,” the concerned parent wrote in his complaint.

The district released a statement defending the theatrical production – noting they are “extremely proud” and they stand by the students “100 percent.”

“The script has been thoughtfully modified to be appropriate for a broad, young-adult audience,” the district’s statement read. “Carnegie students have treated the script’s mature subject matter with admirable sensitivity, skill and professionalism.”

I suppose it does take a bit of skill to pee in a bucket during a live stage performance.

Perhaps the Tony Awards should consider adding a new category: “Best On Stage Depiction of Bodily Functions.”

Carnegie parents are defending the profanity-laced production. One parent convinced the Houston Chronicle to publish a column titled, “How Edgy Should High-School Theater Be?”

“The last time I saw it, some of the audience was in tears. Others walked out. Still others sat silently in their seats, stunned by the journey they had been on,” wrote Alice Savage, the mother of one of the cast members.

“Isn’t theater supposed to challenge people?” she opined.

Well, sure. But can’t they challenge us without dropping their pants and urinating into a bucket?

Critics want the show disqualified – but I sincerely doubt the powers-that-be will oblige. And I have no doubt the school’s production could possibly win first prize.

“If they do, it will not be due to their ability to shock and offend, but to move audiences with a distinctly human story,” Ms. Savage wrote.

A distinctly human story, I might add, that would be best-suited for a seedy adult bookstore – rather than a high school theatrical competition.

Andrew Bovell's play?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

High school kids have no business on the "cutting edge of art." Let them do West Side Story or Guys and Dolls. Leave the "cutting edge art" to grownups.

lol

The stupidity of this is priceless.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

And the decay of our culture continues, cheered on by the usual suspects.

Ignorant nonsense.

 

[2aguy]

(Bold Italics are excerpts taken from the article)

Carnegie Vanguard High School’s one act play had a little something for everyone: depictions of male-on-male rape, male-on-female rape, filthy language, on-stage urination, and an actress who simulated wiping her private parts at center stage. Oh yes, there was also a scene where a male cast member turned his back to the audience and dropped his pants, as fellow cast members deliver dialogue about the size of his appendage.
[Don’t you just love how avant garde “art” edifies our culture?]

The parent told me he confronted Carnegie’s principal immediately after the performance – but his concerns were dismissed. “At first, he said, ‘well ,you know, everyone has a different tolerance level,’” the parent said. “I told him, ‘No, sir. You cannot possibly tell me that it’s appropriate for any audience for a young lady to portray wiping her vagina after having sex behind a prop on stage.’”
[Is this principal a pervert?]

The district released a statement defending the theatrical production – noting they are “extremely proud” and they stand by the students “100 percent.”
[ Extremely proud? Now maybe you liberals can better understand why we deplore our educators who are so hung up on nothing but sexual liberty and choice, and gay is beautiful, and embrace the transgender movement, and watch this graphic video how to have sex, and we can get you a secret free abortion, and grab a bunch of condoms on your way out of class --- all the while castigating Christian thought and its morals.]

“People were disgusted and there was complete shock at what they had just seen,” he told me. “Elementary-aged children were exposed to this show.”
[“Yes, so? You want us educators to leave it to clueless parents how to expose them to safe sex and all that?”]

(One mother of a cast member student defended it asking ) “Isn’t theater supposed to challenge people?” she opined.
[Challenge? You mean like watching a student piss into a bucket on stage? The godless in this nation are blind and the Christians like me are cowards or maybe just giving up.]

An (approving) Houston Chronicle columnist described the show as “psychologically intense, an exploration of subjects such as violence, sex and race.”
[Boy if there is anything we can say our high schools now excel in it is the exploration of violence, sex and race. These educators need to be shot.]

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School play depicts rape, filthy language and public urination | Fox News

High School play depicts rape, filthy language and public urination

Carnegie Vanguard High School’s one act play had a little something for everyone: depictions of male-on-male rape, male-on-female rape, filthy language, on-stage urination, and an actress who simulated wiping her private parts at center stage. Oh yes, there was also a scene where a male cast member turned his back to the audience and dropped his pants, as fellow cast members deliver dialogue about the size of his appendage.

The Houston high school’s racy production of “Holy Day” has generated great angst among the good church-going people of the Lone Star State. “Hello Dolly” it is not.

A Houston Chronicle columnist described the show as “psychologically intense, an exploration of subjects such as violence, sex and race.”

Carnegie’s eyebrow-raising show recently advanced in the Texas One-Act Play Contest – leading to a number of complaints – mostly from the parents of teen actors at competing schools.

“I was completely flabbergasted at the content,” one parent who saw the production told me.

One enraged father who attended the April 23 Region III-6A play competition filed a formal complaint with the Houston Independent School District.

“I was deeply offended by the obscene and inappropriate content,” the parent wrote – demanding the school be disqualified from the competition.

I spoke at length with the father, a former public school educator for 18 years. He asked that I not disclose his name – fearing it might cause trouble for his children.

His son was also competing in the one-act play competition – representing a different school. He said many people were shocked by what they saw during Carnegie’s performance.

“People were disgusted and there was complete shock at what they had just seen,” he told me. “Elementary-aged children were exposed to this show.”

The parent told me he confronted Carnegie’s principal immediately after the performance – but his concerns were dismissed.

“At first, he said, ‘well ,you know, everyone has a different tolerance level,’” the parent said. “I told him, ‘No, sir. You cannot possibly tell me that it’s appropriate for any audience for a young lady to portray wiping her vagina after having sex behind a prop on stage.’”

The University Interscholastic League told me they are “aware of some concerns” and are investigating the content of Carnegie’s play.

“UIL is making every effort to follow up with members of the public that have expressed concerns,” a spokesman wrote in a statement. “The administration of the producing school shall assure that the director complies with these requirements and that the play does not offend the moral standards of the community.”

Apparently the moral standards within the Houston Independent School District are not all that high.

“Such obscene and offensive language and content has no place in any high school in the state of Texas,” the concerned parent wrote in his complaint.

The district released a statement defending the theatrical production – noting they are “extremely proud” and they stand by the students “100 percent.”

“The script has been thoughtfully modified to be appropriate for a broad, young-adult audience,” the district’s statement read. “Carnegie students have treated the script’s mature subject matter with admirable sensitivity, skill and professionalism.”

I suppose it does take a bit of skill to pee in a bucket during a live stage performance.

Perhaps the Tony Awards should consider adding a new category: “Best On Stage Depiction of Bodily Functions.”

Carnegie parents are defending the profanity-laced production. One parent convinced the Houston Chronicle to publish a column titled, “How Edgy Should High-School Theater Be?”

“The last time I saw it, some of the audience was in tears. Others walked out. Still others sat silently in their seats, stunned by the journey they had been on,” wrote Alice Savage, the mother of one of the cast members.

“Isn’t theater supposed to challenge people?” she opined.

Well, sure. But can’t they challenge us without dropping their pants and urinating into a bucket?

Critics want the show disqualified – but I sincerely doubt the powers-that-be will oblige. And I have no doubt the school’s production could possibly win first prize.

“If they do, it will not be due to their ability to shock and offend, but to move audiences with a distinctly human story,” Ms. Savage wrote.

A distinctly human story, I might add, that would be best-suited for a seedy adult bookstore – rather than a high school theatrical competition.

Are they doing a play about the life of bill clinton?

 

[Mac1958]

And the decay of our culture continues, cheered on by the usual suspects.

Ignorant nonsense.

Perfect!
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[SeniorChief_Polock]

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[aris2chat]

When people abandon God, there are swift and certain consequences, including the scandalization of children. Matthew 18:6.

Play is not abandoning god, it is being realistic of what happens and the struggle of cultures. It is a story of survival.

Our class was taken to see "Equus" performed in the nude. Such a fuss about a play.

 

[Moonglow]

When people abandon God, there are swift and certain consequences, including the scandalization of children. Matthew 18:6.

God doesn't even save the righteous, so blather on about mythology...