Hitler Hated Communism, Socialist, Homosexuals, and Jews

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do you think she actually believes that the repubican party would be in favor of abolition if it came up today?

RAFLMAO!

I'll take "short letters that end in O' for $200 on that one.

"The central question that emerges . . . is whether the White community in the South is entitled to take such measures as are necessary to prevail, politically and culturally, in areas in which it does not prevail numerically? The sobering answer is Yes – the White community is so entitled because, for the time being, it is the advanced race. It is not easy, and it is unpleasant, to adduce statistics evidencing the cultural superiority of White over Negro: but it is a fact that obtrudes, one that cannot be hidden by ever-so-busy egalitarians and anthropologists.


[...]

National Review believes that the South's premises are correct. It is more important for the community, anywhere in the world, to affirm and live by civilized standards, than to bow to the demands of the numerical majority. Sometimes it becomes impossible to assert the will of a minority, in which case it must give way, and the society will regress; sometimes the numerical minority cannot prevail except by violence: then it must determine whether the prevalence of its will is worth the terrible price of violence."

- William F. Buckley

Wow. I never read Buckley like that....

Interesting. Thanks for that Polk.

 

[Karateka]

Before you start throwing the word "Fascisim" around, I suggest you at least look up what it means, and how that definition affects EVERYTHING, not the least of which will be how all of us live should even a fraction of his agenda go through. As the old saying goes, there will be no point in closing the barn door once the horse is out.

Like it or not, Obama IS a fascist, and he's already proven it with his handling of the banks and the auto industries and now he's after insurance and health care. Privately owned, but government-controlled. Don't take my word for it - find it out for yourself.

As for your statement that: "You've got to have someone to hate in Fascism, it seems," you're quite right. Examine the ethnocentric church Obama attended for 20 years:

From Newsmax.com, 1/7/08: “We are a congregation which is unashamedly black and unapologetically Christian,” says the Trinity United Church of Christ’s website in Chicago. “We are an African people and remain true to our native land, the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.”

That’s just the beginning. The church has a “non-negotiable commitment to Africa,” according to its website, and its pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. subscribes to what is called the Black Value System.

While the Black Value System includes such items as commitment to God, education, and self-discipline, it refers to “our racist competitive society” and includes the disavowal of the pursuit of “middle-classness” and a pledge of allegiance to “all black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System.” It defines “middle-classness” as a way for American society to “snare” blacks rather than “killing them off directly” or “placing them in concentration camps,” just as the country structures “an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.”

In sermons and interviews, Dr. Wright has equated Zionism with racism and Israel with South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. On the Sunday after 9/11, Wright said the attacks were a consequence of violent American policies. Four years later, Wright suggested that the attacks were retribution for America’s racism.

“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01,” Wright wrote in a church-affiliated magazine. “White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”

In one of his sermons, Wright said, “Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!...We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”

As for Israel, “The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now,” Wright has said. “Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”

Obama says he found religion and Jesus Christ through Wright, whom he met in the mid-1980s. He has been attending Wright’s church regularly since 1988.

As for the "flooding of corporate media," like it or not, it's freedom of speech. If you don't like what you're hearing, turn it off. You seem to be operating under the notion that someone's rights are being stepped on because you don't like or believe what's being said. The veracity or lack thereof is not your problem. You have the choice to turn it off. Likewise, if they do not like or believe what you might say, given equal time on the same type of forum, their choice would be the same - they could simply turn you off. I would think someone as intelligent as you clearly are would understand that nothing is more important than maintaining the constitutional right to freedom of speech, regardless of whether what is being said is pleasing or viewed as honest by anyone with an opposing viewpoint?

 

[paperview]

Before you start throwing the word "Fascisim" around, I suggest you at least look up what it means, and how that definition affects EVERYTHING, not the least of which will be how all of us live should even a fraction of his agenda go through. As the old saying goes, there will be no point in closing the barn door once the horse is out.

Like it or not, Obama IS a fascist, and he's already proven it with his handling of the banks and the auto industries and now he's after insurance and health care. Privately owned, but government-controlled. Don't take my word for it - find it out for yourself.

As for your statement that: "You've got to have someone to hate in Fascism, it seems," you're quite right. Examine the ethnocentric church Obama attended for 20 years:

From Newsmax.com, 1/7/08: “We are a congregation which is unashamedly black and unapologetically Christian,” says the Trinity United Church of Christ’s website in Chicago. “We are an African people and remain true to our native land, the mother continent, the cradle of civilization.”

That’s just the beginning. The church has a “non-negotiable commitment to Africa,” according to its website, and its pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. subscribes to what is called the Black Value System.

While the Black Value System includes such items as commitment to God, education, and self-discipline, it refers to “our racist competitive society” and includes the disavowal of the pursuit of “middle-classness” and a pledge of allegiance to “all black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System.” It defines “middle-classness” as a way for American society to “snare” blacks rather than “killing them off directly” or “placing them in concentration camps,” just as the country structures “an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.”

In sermons and interviews, Dr. Wright has equated Zionism with racism and Israel with South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. On the Sunday after 9/11, Wright said the attacks were a consequence of violent American policies. Four years later, Wright suggested that the attacks were retribution for America’s racism.

“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01,” Wright wrote in a church-affiliated magazine. “White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”

In one of his sermons, Wright said, “Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run!...We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”

As for Israel, “The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now,” Wright has said. “Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”

Obama says he found religion and Jesus Christ through Wright, whom he met in the mid-1980s. He has been attending Wright’s church regularly since 1988.

As for the "flooding of corporate media," like it or not, it's freedom of speech. If you don't like what you're hearing, turn it off. You seem to be operating under the notion that someone's rights are being stepped on because you don't like or believe what's being said. The veracity or lack thereof is not your problem. You have the choice to turn it off. Likewise, if they do not like or believe what you might say, given equal time on the same type of forum, their choice would be the same - they could simply turn you off. I would think someone as intelligent as you clearly are would understand that nothing is more important than maintaining the constitutional right to freedom of speech, regardless of whether what is being said is pleasing or viewed as honest by anyone with an opposing viewpoint?

And cons wonder why no one takes them seriously.

 

[Karateka]

And cons wonder why no one takes them seriously.

Oh dear, I'm so sorry, but I'm not a "con"!!!!! OMG! There's not a label you can slap on me! You can't put me in "my place" now! I'm educated, I believe in equal rights, I defend the constitution, I'm in favor of gay marriage, and I'm pro choice! I think for myself, I examine things from all sides, and I don't let other people make my decisions for me, or create my biases! Gasp! What kind of a world has it become, when you have to deal with someone who isn't afraid to look at things the way they are instead of the way you just really, really want them to be?

 

[jillian]

Before you start throwing the word "Fascisim" around, I suggest you at least look up what it means, and how that definition affects EVERYTHING, not the least of which will be how all of us live should even a fraction of his agenda go through. As the old saying goes, there will be no point in closing the barn door once the horse is out.

Like it or not, Obama IS a fascist, and he's already proven it with his handling of the banks and the auto industries and now he's after insurance and health care. Privately owned, but government-controlled. Don't take my word for it - find it out for yourself.

As for your statement that: "You've got to have someone to hate in Fascism, it seems," you're quite right. Examine the ethnocentric church Obama attended for 20 years:

As for the "flooding of corporate media," like it or not, it's freedom of speech. If you don't like what you're hearing, turn it off. You seem to be operating under the notion that someone's rights are being stepped on because you don't like or believe what's being said. The veracity or lack thereof is not your problem. You have the choice to turn it off. Likewise, if they do not like or believe what you might say, given equal time on the same type of forum, their choice would be the same - they could simply turn you off. I would think someone as intelligent as you clearly are would understand that nothing is more important than maintaining the constitutional right to freedom of speech, regardless of whether what is being said is pleasing or viewed as honest by anyone with an opposing viewpoint?

First... don't look to newsmax for anything... not even a definition...

THIS is what facism means:

Fascism comprises a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology and a corporatist economic ideology.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

And I'm not particularly interested in your BS about Wright... because it's irrelevant to any definition of facism or the discussion here.

However, if you look at the ACTUAL definition of facism, you'll see that it is far more closely alligned with right wing, corporatist policies than "liberal" policies.

In fact... another definition of facism:

a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=fascism

Our rules limited the number of media outlets that could be held by one corporate entity...

well, until those rules were loosened by Bush's FCC....

*oops*... guess who benefitted from that one? The administration... because if they were anti-Bush, they didn't get to buy or sell media outlets. because the FCC wouldn't approve them.

Newscorp got LOTS...

quelle surprise.

Media is a corporate trust... and there is more at stake than just "turn it off"... at least in that regard.

Now if you're talking about Howard Stern, then I agree with you.. if you don't like him... turn him off.

 

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And cons wonder why no one takes them seriously.

Oh dear, I'm so sorry, but I'm not a "con"!!!!! OMG! There's not a label you can slap on me! You can't put me in "my place" now! I'm educated, I believe in equal rights, I defend the constitution, I'm in favor of gay marriage, and I'm pro choice! I think for myself, I examine things from all sides, and I don't let other people make my decisions for me, or create my biases! Gasp! What kind of a world has it become, when you have to deal with someone who isn't afraid to look at things the way they are instead of the way you just really, really want them to be?

This coming from the poster who just called Obama a fascist. "like it or not."

 

[jillian]

This coming from the poster who just called Obama a fascist. "like it or not."

and who used "newsmax" to define the term.

*shakes head*

 

[LibocalypseNow]

"We are Socialists,we are enemies of today's Capitalistic economic System for the exploitation of the economically weak,with its unfair salaries,with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance,and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

Though those words could have easily been spoken by Barack Obama,Nancy Pelosi,and just about all Leftists in this country,they were actually words spoken by Adolf Hitler. Hitler was a loyal Socialist right up til the end and this is just fact. Today's American Socialists do have eerie similarities with the Nazi Socialists. Their words seem to echo Adolf Hitler's own words more and more each day. It's actually pretty frightening.

Our Founding Fathers really were true geniuses all those years ago. They got it right back then. Socialism/Communism sound pretty good in the beginning but always end badly. Socialism/Communism simply open the door to Government oppression and Dictatorship. You can't even get to Fascism or Dictatorship without first going the Socialist/Communist route. Our Founding Fathers really did have it right back then. The further we move away from our Constitution the closer we get to Socialism,Communism,Fascism,and ultimately Dictatorship. Right now we are rapidly moving away from our Constitution and that should frighten all Americans.

 

[jillian]

you're not supposed to spam threads with the same garbage....

 

[Karateka]

Fascism comprises a radical and authoritarian nationalist political ideology and a corporatist economic ideology.

Very good. So when the government dictates political ideology and corporate economic ideology, you get fascism. But you're telling me you don't see any of that happening now, though, right? Not with the takeover of the banks or the micro-management and/or takeover of the auto industry - privately owned industries? Or interference in a person's choice of health care? You don't see ANY of that happening AT ALL? The government telling privately owned businesses how they WILL or WILL NOT be run? Private citizens being told what they WILL or WILL NOT be allowed to have for health care? And please tell me you are not going for the "you can keep the healthcare you have" BS when part of the language in the bill states that all the people who DON'T get it will be penalized and charged $200 Billion by the IRS over a period of about 10 years -

As for my "BS" about Rev. Wright, you're the one who said: "You've got to have someone to hate in Fascism, it seems." I was simply responding to the statement. The quotations were not mine. I don't have a dog in that fight one way or the other; I don't go to that church or any other. But since the title of your thread seems to cover at least, in part, the subject of hate ... my bad.

Do not waste my time talking about who gained what with the FCC; I know for a fact, and other posters on this board could tell you that MSN shut its chat boards down once it became known that ANY statements made that were unfavorable to President Obama's healthcare initiatives were not appreciated. In other words MSN towed the party line and shut down a free speech forum (albeit in writing). If that is not

a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)

then I don't know what is. Talk while you still can.

 

[Karateka]

This coming from the poster who just called Obama a fascist. "like it or not."

I'll make it easy for you. A fascist is someone who follows the tenets of fascism. Deal with it. Now, what have I said, aside from the fact that Obama is what he is, that's breaking your little world apart and turning me into a "con"? I don't vote con, I don't think con, I don't have a tat that says "God, Guns, and W" on my creamy white ass, so what's got you in such a twist? Is it because I think Obama is a fascist? Right then. I think the sky is blue with big white fluffy clouds - does that make me a meteorologist? Jeez - the logic of you!

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Yes unfortunately NBC,Washington Post,and Newsweak which are all owned by GE,have been in bed with this current administration since day one. The Washington Post was even busted a couple of months ago for selling access to Hopey Changey's White House lackeys. GE is simply a part of this administration so any Media outlets owned by them should be taken with a grain of salt at this point. Just more sad Chris Matthews "Thrill up my Leg" stuff in the end.

 

[jillian]

Very good. So when the government dictates political ideology and corporate economic ideology, you get fascism. But you're telling me you don't see any of that happening now, though, right? Not with the takeover of the banks or the micro-management and/or takeover of the auto industry - privately owned industries? Or interference in a person's choice of health care? You don't see ANY of that happening AT ALL?

The banks were given LOANS while Bush was president. Most of the TARP funds have been paid back. We do not own the banks.

As for the auto industry... when the prior administration runs the country into a ditch and we're in danger of losing 2.5 million jobs, there isn't a lot of choice, but it isn't facism.

If you want to know what facism is, you might want to take a look at this article:

Fascism Anyone?

I think you'll find that Lawrence Britt was fairly specific and not flailing all over the place like you are.

And who on earth is disrupting your choice by controlling what choices you have in healthcare if we close the insurance company loopholes and improve health care in this country? You know....given that 50% of our bankruptcies are caused by unanticipated medical expenses.

The government telling privately owned businesses how they WILL or WILL NOT be run?

And? Businesses get regulated... as they should. Your point?

Private citizens being told what they WILL or WILL NOT be allowed to have for health care? And please tell me you are not going for the "you can keep the healthcare you have" BS when part of the language in the bill states that all the people who DON'T get it will be penalized and charged $200 Billion by the IRS over a period of about 10 years -

I don't think you've read the bill, because that isn't what it says... It's what the insurance lobbies SAY it says.

As for my "BS" about Rev. Wright, you're the one who said: "You've got to have someone to hate in Fascism, it seems."

That wasn't me. And again... it was a non-sequitur.

I was simply responding to the statement. The quotations were not mine. I don't have a dog in that fight one way or the other; I don't go to that church or any other. But since the title of your thread seems to cover at least, in part, the subject of hate ... my bad.

Insofar as it wasn't my thread... ok. yes, your bad.

Do not waste my time talking about who gained what with the FCC; I know for a fact, and other posters on this board could tell you that MSN shut its chat boards down once it became known that ANY statements made that were unfavorable to President Obama's healthcare initiatives were not appreciated. In other words MSN towed the party line and shut down a free speech forum (albeit in writing). If that is not

a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)

Tell ya what... don't waste MY time by talking about the MSN board... cause boards close for a lot of different reasons. (I used to moderate on one that got overrun by insane spammers during the 2004 election).

And if you're not interested in talking about the realities of what happened at the FCC over the last 8 years...well, then you're not interested in discussing the issue. That's fine.

[then I don't know what is. Talk while you still can.

No... you don't know what it is...

I don't think we're in any danger of not being able to talk...

at least not anymore.

Though you might have a look at the warrantless wiretaps of the FISA laws if you have concerns. (And yes, I know there were dems who voted for it, too... they shouldn't have).

 

[AllieBaba]

Obama's admin is making one of the biggest power grabs we've seen ever, anywhere...except in countries where fascists take over.

Like his buddy Che.

He's taken over the auto industry, the banks, he's struggling to control the health industry and will also go after the oil industry.

That's fascism.

 

[paperview]

This coming from the poster who just called Obama a fascist. "like it or not."

I'll make it easy for you. A fascist is someone who follows the tenets of fascism. Deal with it. Now, what have I said, aside from the fact that Obama is what he is, that's breaking your little world apart and turning me into a "con"? I don't vote con, I don't think con, I don't have a tat that says "God, Guns, and W" on my creamy white ass, so what's got you in such a twist? Is it because I think Obama is a fascist? Right then. I think the sky is blue with big white fluffy clouds - does that make me a meteorologist? Jeez - the logic of you!

No, it makes you simplistic.

Which is the way most cons think. Whatever your political ideology is, it's weak on depth and a basic understading of history, philosophies and definitions.

 

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<...>
Do not waste my time talking about who gained what with the FCC; I know for a fact, and other posters on this board could tell you that MSN shut its chat boards down once it became known that ANY statements made that were unfavorable to President Obama's healthcare initiatives were not appreciated. In other words MSN towed the party line and shut down a free speech forum (albeit in writing). If that is not

a political theory advocating an authoritarian hierarchical government (as opposed to democracy or liberalism)

then I don't know what is. Talk while you still can.

This may come as a surprise to you, but MSNBC is not the government.

 

[paperview]

You don't have "free speech" on someone else's dollar Kara.

 

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Quote: Originally Posted by Karateka View Post
<...>
Do not waste my time talking about who gained what with the FCC; I know for a fact, and other posters on this board could tell you that MSN shut its chat boards down once it became known that ANY statements made that were unfavorable to President Obama's healthcare initiatives were not appreciated. In other words MSN towed the party line and shut down a free speech forum (albeit in writing).

Oh, and Miss "Know it for a Fact" - Ahem:

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Aww. "Facts are stupid things" - Ronald Reagan

 

[L.K.Eder]

"We are Socialists,we are enemies of today's Capitalistic economic System for the exploitation of the economically weak,with its unfair salaries,with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance,and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

Though those words could have easily been spoken by Barack Obama,Nancy Pelosi,and just about all Leftists in this country,they were actually words spoken by Adolf Hitler. Hitler was a loyal Socialist right up til the end and this is just fact. Today's American Socialists do have eerie similarities with the Nazi Socialists. Their words seem to echo Adolf Hitler's own words more and more each day. It's actually pretty frightening.

Our Founding Fathers really were true geniuses all those years ago. They got it right back then. Socialism/Communism sound pretty good in the beginning but always end badly. Socialism/Communism simply open the door to Government oppression and Dictatorship. You can't even get to Fascism or Dictatorship without first going the Socialist/Communist route. Our Founding Fathers really did have it right back then. The further we move away from our Constitution the closer we get to Socialism,Communism,Fascism,and ultimately Dictatorship. Right now we are rapidly moving away from our Constitution and that should frighten all Americans.

link me to the source or tell me in which book it is cited that adolf hitler spoke those words.

i already answered your question who it was. it was not hitler.

 

[paperview]

"We are Socialists,we are enemies of today's Capitalistic economic System for the exploitation of the economically weak,with its unfair salaries,with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance,and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions."

Though those words could have easily been spoken by Barack Obama,Nancy Pelosi,and just about all Leftists in this country,they were actually words spoken by Adolf Hitler. Hitler was a loyal Socialist right up til the end and this is just fact. Today's American Socialists do have eerie similarities with the Nazi Socialists. Their words seem to echo Adolf Hitler's own words more and more each day. It's actually pretty frightening.

Our Founding Fathers really were true geniuses all those years ago. They got it right back then. Socialism/Communism sound pretty good in the beginning but always end badly. Socialism/Communism simply open the door to Government oppression and Dictatorship. You can't even get to Fascism or Dictatorship without first going the Socialist/Communist route. Our Founding Fathers really did have it right back then. The further we move away from our Constitution the closer we get to Socialism,Communism,Fascism,and ultimately Dictatorship. Right now we are rapidly moving away from our Constitution and that should frighten all Americans.

link me to the source or tell me in which book it is cited that adolf hitler spoke those words.

i already answered your question who it was. it was not hitler.

He doesn't answer questions.

He spams the same stuff over and over again. He is a bot.