How many times does communism have to be debunked?

Missouri_Mike

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And done so by the people who lived it? If the left can't even take those that survived seriously I have no idea how to keep them from self destruction.

Statistics show that young Americans are indeed oblivious to communism’s harrowing past. According to a YouGov poll, only half of millennials believe that communism was a problem, and about a third believe that President George W. Bush killed more people than Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, who killed 20 million. If you ask millennials how many people communism killed, 75 percent will undershoot.

Perhaps before joking about communist revolutions, we should remember that Stalin’s secret police tortured “traitors” in secret prisons by sticking needles under their fingernails or beating them until their bones were broken. Lenin seized food from the poor, causing a famine in the Soviet Union that induced desperate mothers to eat their own children and peasants to dig up corpses for food. In every country that communism was tried, it resulted in massacres, starvation, and terror.

Communism cannot be separated from oppression; in fact, it depends upon it. In the communist society, the collective is supreme. Personal autonomy is nonexistent. Human beings are simply cogs in a machine tasked with producing utopia; they have no value of their own.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson
 
The excuse will always be made that Communism was never properly tried.

Marx laid out a specific pattern by which he thought Communism would be implemented, the steps to be taken, and how people would respond to those steps. In every attempt that has been made to enact Communism, the people affected simply did not respond the way Marx predicted that they would, and so Communism failed to be implemented according to Marx's plan. I think a rational person would simply recognize that Marx was wrong, that his whole plan was based on some serious errors about human nature, and that because of these errors, Communism will never be workable. But supporters of Communism have argued, and will surely continue to argue, that if only we go about it the right way, and everyone does what they are supposed to, that Communism will work.
 
And done so by the people who lived it? If the left can't even take those that survived seriously I have no idea how to keep them from self destruction.

Statistics show that young Americans are indeed oblivious to communism’s harrowing past. According to a YouGov poll, only half of millennials believe that communism was a problem, and about a third believe that President George W. Bush killed more people than Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, who killed 20 million. If you ask millennials how many people communism killed, 75 percent will undershoot.

Perhaps before joking about communist revolutions, we should remember that Stalin’s secret police tortured “traitors” in secret prisons by sticking needles under their fingernails or beating them until their bones were broken. Lenin seized food from the poor, causing a famine in the Soviet Union that induced desperate mothers to eat their own children and peasants to dig up corpses for food. In every country that communism was tried, it resulted in massacres, starvation, and terror.

Communism cannot be separated from oppression; in fact, it depends upon it. In the communist society, the collective is supreme. Personal autonomy is nonexistent. Human beings are simply cogs in a machine tasked with producing utopia; they have no value of their own.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson

I know a religious sect that's been practicing communism for five hundred years. In that entire history they've had I think one murder and two suicides. Total, in five hundred years.

Oh and they're absolute pacifists, so they've never "oppressed" anybody. Because that doesn't follow. It isn't even related, since "communism" refers to an economic system. They have been on the receiving end of oppression of course, since they refuse to join anybody's war. Including from the United States Government and the Russian one.

And they started this centuries before Marx was born, although not far from there.

What a moronic thread.
 
And done so by the people who lived it? If the left can't even take those that survived seriously I have no idea how to keep them from self destruction.

Statistics show that young Americans are indeed oblivious to communism’s harrowing past. According to a YouGov poll, only half of millennials believe that communism was a problem, and about a third believe that President George W. Bush killed more people than Soviet leader Joseph Stalin, who killed 20 million. If you ask millennials how many people communism killed, 75 percent will undershoot.

Perhaps before joking about communist revolutions, we should remember that Stalin’s secret police tortured “traitors” in secret prisons by sticking needles under their fingernails or beating them until their bones were broken. Lenin seized food from the poor, causing a famine in the Soviet Union that induced desperate mothers to eat their own children and peasants to dig up corpses for food. In every country that communism was tried, it resulted in massacres, starvation, and terror.

Communism cannot be separated from oppression; in fact, it depends upon it. In the communist society, the collective is supreme. Personal autonomy is nonexistent. Human beings are simply cogs in a machine tasked with producing utopia; they have no value of their own.

100 Years. 100 Million Lives. Think Twice. | Opinion | The Harvard Crimson

It's not true communism! Venezuela is not true socialism!

Just let ME implement it and everything will work just fine.
 

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