How Obamacare was built on a LIE and "stupidity" as the Obamacare architect states!

I would remind people that in the last USSC casing involving the ACA, Roberts did not say the ACA was Constitutional. In fact, he eluded to the fact that it is NOT Constitutional, but he rejected declaring it Un-Constitutional based on THE NUMBER OF AMERICANS THAT WOULD BE HURT IF IT WAS SUDDENLY RULED UN-CONSTITUTIONAL.

THIS goes against what USSC Justices are supposed to rule. They are to answer 1 question: Is it Constitutional or not?

Whether that finding makes life hard for anyone or not is NOT their concern. Ruling the ACA is Un-Constitutional, which should have been done, WILL make life suck a little more until a new health care plan is adopted, but BARRY and the Democrats are responsible for that. THEY are the ones who destroyed the existing system and forced the minority-supported ACA down the throats of the majority who opposed it.

Instead of ruling ti Un-Constitutional he voted with the Liberals and stated Congress / the President will have to strengthen their argument / case and RESUBMITT.

In doing so, Roberts ruled on emotion (concern/sympathy for the people, not based on the Constitution). He left the door open for another challenge in the future.


The Supreme Count is hesitate to make huge changes - even if the law's Constitutionality is in question.
It is part of their creed.
Roberts probably more than most
Barrett confirmed that stability can override Constitutionality yesterday.
 
Cramming Obamacare through over the objections of the American people resulted in the biggest Dem loss at the polls in nearly 100 years.

Trying to repeal Obamacare resulted in the biggest landslide victory by the Dems in the midterms since the 70’s.

FTFY
 
I would remind people that in the last USSC casing involving the ACA, Roberts did not say the ACA was Constitutional. In fact, he eluded to the fact that it is NOT Constitutional, but he rejected declaring it Un-Constitutional based on THE NUMBER OF AMERICANS THAT WOULD BE HURT IF IT WAS SUDDENLY RULED UN-CONSTITUTIONAL.

THIS goes against what USSC Justices are supposed to rule. They are to answer 1 question: Is it Constitutional or not?

Whether that finding makes life hard for anyone or not is NOT their concern. Ruling the ACA is Un-Constitutional, which should have been done, WILL make life suck a little more until a new health care plan is adopted, but BARRY and the Democrats are responsible for that. THEY are the ones who destroyed the existing system and forced the minority-supported ACA down the throats of the majority who opposed it.

Instead of ruling ti Un-Constitutional he voted with the Liberals and stated Congress / the President will have to strengthen their argument / case and RESUBMITT.

In doing so, Roberts ruled on emotion (concern/sympathy for the people, not based on the Constitution). He left the door open for another challenge in the future.
AND Roberts like many many others NEVER ever looked at the reality of how many people are INSURED!
Totally ignorance on his part and frankly all the MSM keep repeating Obama's gross lie... 46 million uninsured Americans!
But there NEVER were 46 million uninsured!

If anyone with half a sense of logic looked at the attached, they would comprehend that was a LIE!
I just wish more people would understand what this 46 million LIE did and that only 7 members of the HOUSE was the difference in the vote!
Not only did Obama INCLUDE 10 million illegals which Politifact called "sloppy" by Obama to include BUT the architect of ACA Gruber said it took the stupidity of the voter to pass ACA! Gruber went on to PROVE what FACT 2 was saying that 14 million Americans all need to do BEFORE ACA was sign up for Medicaid!
Finally the FACT 3 points out that 18 million people UNDER age 34 making over $50k/year didn't WANT to spend for health insurance from their EMPLOYER because they had no need! I don't know for a FACT that some of these 18 million might have HAD private insurance that was cheaper than their employer insurance but that was a possibility! But no one has investigated THAT possibility!
BUT regardless... to disrupt health care as Obamacare did and NOW today the idiot Dems Senators are continuing to raise that other gigantic falsehood "over half of all Americans have pre-existing conditions"!
HOW totally dishonest! FACTS!


156,199,800 HAVE employer health insurance
62,745,770 Medicare
76,070,000 Americans are enrolled in Medicaid .
12,000,000 military personnel received coverage
84,000,000 non-employer private health insurance
391,015,570 when you add the above together!

46millionuninsured.png
 
I would remind people that in the last USSC casing involving the ACA, Roberts did not say the ACA was Constitutional. In fact, he eluded to the fact that it is NOT Constitutional, but he rejected declaring it Un-Constitutional based on THE NUMBER OF AMERICANS THAT WOULD BE HURT IF IT WAS SUDDENLY RULED UN-CONSTITUTIONAL.

THIS goes against what USSC Justices are supposed to rule. They are to answer 1 question: Is it Constitutional or not?

Whether that finding makes life hard for anyone or not is NOT their concern. Ruling the ACA is Un-Constitutional, which should have been done, WILL make life suck a little more until a new health care plan is adopted, but BARRY and the Democrats are responsible for that. THEY are the ones who destroyed the existing system and forced the minority-supported ACA down the throats of the majority who opposed it.

Instead of ruling ti Un-Constitutional he voted with the Liberals and stated Congress / the President will have to strengthen their argument / case and RESUBMITT.

In doing so, Roberts ruled on emotion (concern/sympathy for the people, not based on the Constitution). He left the door open for another challenge in the future.
AND Roberts like many many others NEVER ever looked at the reality of how many people are INSURED!
Totally ignorance on his part and frankly all the MSM keep repeating Obama's gross lie... 46 million uninsured Americans!
But there NEVER were 46 million uninsured!

If anyone with half a sense of logic looked at the attached, they would comprehend that was a LIE!
I just wish more people would understand what this 46 million LIE did and that only 7 members of the HOUSE was the difference in the vote!
Not only did Obama INCLUDE 10 million illegals which Politifact called "sloppy" by Obama to include BUT the architect of ACA Gruber said it took the stupidity of the voter to pass ACA! Gruber went on to PROVE what FACT 2 was saying that 14 million Americans all need to do BEFORE ACA was sign up for Medicaid!
Finally the FACT 3 points out that 18 million people UNDER age 34 making over $50k/year didn't WANT to spend for health insurance from their EMPLOYER because they had no need! I don't know for a FACT that some of these 18 million might have HAD private insurance that was cheaper than their employer insurance but that was a possibility! But no one has investigated THAT possibility!
BUT regardless... to disrupt health care as Obamacare did and NOW today the idiot Dems Senators are continuing to raise that other gigantic falsehood "over half of all Americans have pre-existing conditions"!
HOW totally dishonest! FACTS!


156,199,800 HAVE employer health insurance
62,745,770 Medicare
76,070,000 Americans are enrolled in Medicaid .
12,000,000 military personnel received coverage
84,000,000 non-employer private health insurance
391,015,570 when you add the above together!

View attachment 401468
How many people are insured or not has no bearing on whether the ACA is Constitutional or not.
 
I would remind people that in the last USSC casing involving the ACA, Roberts did not say the ACA was Constitutional. In fact, he eluded to the fact that it is NOT Constitutional, but he rejected declaring it Un-Constitutional based on THE NUMBER OF AMERICANS THAT WOULD BE HURT IF IT WAS SUDDENLY RULED UN-CONSTITUTIONAL.

THIS goes against what USSC Justices are supposed to rule. They are to answer 1 question: Is it Constitutional or not?

Whether that finding makes life hard for anyone or not is NOT their concern. Ruling the ACA is Un-Constitutional, which should have been done, WILL make life suck a little more until a new health care plan is adopted, but BARRY and the Democrats are responsible for that. THEY are the ones who destroyed the existing system and forced the minority-supported ACA down the throats of the majority who opposed it.

Instead of ruling ti Un-Constitutional he voted with the Liberals and stated Congress / the President will have to strengthen their argument / case and RESUBMITT.

In doing so, Roberts ruled on emotion (concern/sympathy for the people, not based on the Constitution). He left the door open for another challenge in the future.
AND Roberts like many many others NEVER ever looked at the reality of how many people are INSURED!
Totally ignorance on his part and frankly all the MSM keep repeating Obama's gross lie... 46 million uninsured Americans!
But there NEVER were 46 million uninsured!

If anyone with half a sense of logic looked at the attached, they would comprehend that was a LIE!
I just wish more people would understand what this 46 million LIE did and that only 7 members of the HOUSE was the difference in the vote!
Not only did Obama INCLUDE 10 million illegals which Politifact called "sloppy" by Obama to include BUT the architect of ACA Gruber said it took the stupidity of the voter to pass ACA! Gruber went on to PROVE what FACT 2 was saying that 14 million Americans all need to do BEFORE ACA was sign up for Medicaid!
Finally the FACT 3 points out that 18 million people UNDER age 34 making over $50k/year didn't WANT to spend for health insurance from their EMPLOYER because they had no need! I don't know for a FACT that some of these 18 million might have HAD private insurance that was cheaper than their employer insurance but that was a possibility! But no one has investigated THAT possibility!
BUT regardless... to disrupt health care as Obamacare did and NOW today the idiot Dems Senators are continuing to raise that other gigantic falsehood "over half of all Americans have pre-existing conditions"!
HOW totally dishonest! FACTS!


156,199,800 HAVE employer health insurance
62,745,770 Medicare
76,070,000 Americans are enrolled in Medicaid .
12,000,000 military personnel received coverage
84,000,000 non-employer private health insurance
391,015,570 when you add the above together!

View attachment 401468
How many people are insured or not has no bearing on whether the ACA is Constitutional or not.
I agree with regards to Constitutionality questions.
My total point though is that the MSM/Democrats and frankly many GOPs never seemed to mind that there never was a health insurance crisis!
I've used the FACTS which have NOT been evidently compiled as I have that when you add private health insurance, to Medicare, to Medicaid, to employer health insurance to VA you add up over 390 million coverage! Doesn't that seem strange that then this whole Obamacare was passed based on actually NO people not having any coverage? People never questioned the "over 46 million uninsured Americans" by Obama because the MSM has a total Democrat bias!
 
Not a fan of Obamacare and its $10,000 deductibles, but where's the Republican health plan?
You can't beat something with nothing.


Explain to me these numbers and tell me WHERE there is a need for a "PLAN"???

Prove these numbers are wrong because I got them from legitimate sources.
FACTS:
49% of Americans (156,199,800) HAVE employer health insurance THEIR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE COVERED!
Source: https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/re...cans-get-health-insurance-from-their-employer

According to Medicare a total 62,745,770 Americans are enrolled or about 18% have health insurance coverage.
How many people do you see in Part A/and B? 62.7 million!!!
Original Medicare 37.6 million
Medicare Advantage (which there are over 600 plans nationwide) 24.4 million or combined total of 62.7 million!
Topic: Medicare THEY ARE COVERED for Pre-existing conditions!!! THEY ARE COVERED!

Medicaid 17.9% of all Americans or a total 76,000,000 Americans are enrolled in Medicaid .
Topic: Medicare THEY HAVE PRE-EXISTING Conditions covered!!!

Approximately 12,000,000 military personnel received coverage through the Veteran's Administration and Military Health System.
THEY HAVE Pre-existing conditions covered!
156,199,800 HAVE employer health insurance
62,745,770 Medicare
76,070,000 Americans are enrolled in Medicaid .
12,000,000 military personnel received coverage
84,000,000 non-employer private health insurance
391,015,570 when you add the above together!

Please advise where these sources are wrong and therefore their numbers are wrong.
Please look the links up and prove them wrong.
Don't go to other sources but repudiate that the above sources did NOT have these numbers.
 
Not a fan of Obamacare and its $10,000 deductibles, but where's the Republican health plan?
You can't beat something with nothing.

Republicans drafted a plan that was a fraction of the size and addressed the top 10 most important issues. Dems ignored it because they wanted a 2,800 page wealth redistribution government takeover.
What healthcare plan was that?

Next week, the Republican party takes its turn laying out a vision for the next four years under a second Trump administration. On the one hand, it is hard to know what this health policy vision could look like because there is no official Republican platform for 2020. (In fact, the website still highlights the 2016 Republican platform.) On the other, it is fair to expect more of the same—in part because very few of the Trump administration’s policies from the past three years have been implemented. This post identifies several of the Republican party’s health policy priorities since 2017 and takes stock of President Trump’s record on health care.


Why should anyone believe right wingers simply because they are on the right wing?
Explain to me these numbers and tell me WHERE there is a need for a "PLAN"???

Prove these numbers are wrong because I got them from legitimate sources.
FACTS:
49% of Americans (156,199,800) HAVE employer health insurance THEIR PRE-EXISTING CONDITIONS ARE COVERED!
Source: https://www.ehealthinsurance.com/re...cans-get-health-insurance-from-their-employer

According to Medicare a total 62,745,770 Americans are enrolled or about 18% have health insurance coverage.
How many people do you see in Part A/and B? 62.7 million!!!
Original Medicare 37.6 million
Medicare Advantage (which there are over 600 plans nationwide) 24.4 million or combined total of 62.7 million!
Topic: Medicare THEY ARE COVERED for Pre-existing conditions!!! THEY ARE COVERED!

Medicaid 17.9% of all Americans or a total 76,000,000 Americans are enrolled in Medicaid .
Topic: Medicare THEY HAVE PRE-EXISTING Conditions covered!!!

Approximately 12,000,000 military personnel received coverage through the Veteran's Administration and Military Health System.
THEY HAVE Pre-existing conditions covered!
156,199,800 HAVE employer health insurance
62,745,770 Medicare
76,070,000 Americans are enrolled in Medicaid .
12,000,000 military personnel received coverage
84,000,000 non-employer private health insurance
391,015,570 when you add the above together!

Please advise where these sources are wrong and therefore their numbers are wrong.
Please look the links up and prove them wrong.
Don't go to other sources but repudiate that the above sources did NOT have these numbers.
 
I do not understand some of you people. You viciously proclaim "46 million uninsured Americans" or "over half of all Americans have pre-existing conditions" but when there is actual vivid and REAL proof that both numbers are bogus, you don't argue with me about them. Why not? I am assuming you KNOW that the links that I use to substantiate the FACTS are valid.
AGAIN for those of you that might not still comprehend.

156,199,800 HAVE employer health insurance or about 49%
62,745,770 have Medicare
76,070,000 Americans are enrolled in Medicaid .
12,000,000 military personnel received coverage
between 23,000,000 and 84,000,000 non-employer private health insurance or around 7% of people buy individual health insurance.
(NOTE: wikipedia DID NOT include Medicaid! which involved 76,070,000...a figure directly from CMS
from 330,015,570 to 391,015,579 Americans have some form of health insurance when you add the above together!

So where are these people claiming 46 million uninsured?
 

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