How to beat Donald John Trump this November:

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Third Party Candidate!

Now some of you will think I am crazy and believe I am suggesting Trump will lose to a third party Candidate but that is not my suggestion at all...

What I am writing about is what happened in 1992 Ross Perot, 2000 Ralph Nader and 2016 Jill Stein...

Still confused?

You need a third party candidate that can take votes away from Trump allowing the Democratic Nominee to slip by and win that key State.

Take Utah and let say Mitt Romney ran as a third party Candidate in that State the reality is Romney could take enough votes from Trump there to flip it to the Democrats and if you do that in key States like Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin with other third party Candidates then you could flip enough States to take the Electoral College from Trump.

Now I know many of you on the left believe your Candidate will win all 57 States of Obama but let be clear Jill Stein cost you the 2016 Electoral College, so why not make sure your candidate has the edge in 2020...

Now many of you will mock this notion, well like when I said the House was going for Obstruction of Congress but let me be clear Democrats your party need a third party Conservative running in those key battleground States so you can make sure you can win...

Well enjoy and I am sure I will be told there is no way that will ever work, but again 1992, 2000 and 2016 proves otherwise...

 

[ABikerSailor]

Well, maybe you could talk to Walsh about that. He's dropped out of the GOP primary, but has said that he will do everything he can to make sure Trump loses this election.

GOP presidential candidate Joe Walsh drops out of race

Republican presidential candidate Joe Walsh announced he is dropping out of the 2020 presidential race, telling CNN's John Berman that President Trump is a "dictator" and saying he plans to speak with other Republicans to get them to support the Democratic presidential candidate.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Well, maybe you could talk to Walsh about that. He's dropped out of the GOP primary, but has said that he will do everything he can to make sure Trump loses this election.

GOP presidential candidate Joe Walsh drops out of race

Republican presidential candidate Joe Walsh announced he is dropping out of the 2020 presidential race, telling CNN's John Berman that President Trump is a "dictator" and saying he plans to speak with other Republicans to get them to support the Democratic presidential candidate.

Isn't there a rule he can not run if he drops out late in the cycle?

 

[ABikerSailor]

Well, maybe you could talk to Walsh about that. He's dropped out of the GOP primary, but has said that he will do everything he can to make sure Trump loses this election.

GOP presidential candidate Joe Walsh drops out of race

Republican presidential candidate Joe Walsh announced he is dropping out of the 2020 presidential race, telling CNN's John Berman that President Trump is a "dictator" and saying he plans to speak with other Republicans to get them to support the Democratic presidential candidate.

Isn't there a rule he can not run if he drops out late in the cycle?

He hasn't exactly dropped out yet. All he's done so far is to suspend his campaign, and maybe he could start it back up under a 3rd party.

 

[boedicca]

No, any one who calls himself a conservative and yet supports the Dem-Prog agenda to spread Socialism throughout our country is not a true conservative.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

No, any one who calls himself a conservative and yet supports the Dem-Prog agenda to spread Socialism throughout our country is not a true conservative.

Well let be clear Donald John Trump is as Conservative as I am sane, and we both know I am one that flew over the nest many times...

So, the reality is if Democrats were smart they would help someone run in key States to take votes from Trump...

I mean wouldn't you do it to stop Democrats?

 

[boedicca]

No, any one who calls himself a conservative and yet supports the Dem-Prog agenda to spread Socialism throughout our country is not a true conservative.

Well let be clear Donald John Trump is as Conservative as I am sane, and we both know I am one that flew over the nest many times...

So, the reality is if Democrats were smart they would help someone run in key States to take votes from Trump...

I mean wouldn't you do it to stop Democrats?

Trumps policies are actually middle of the road conservative. He's cut taxes, been pro-America etc etc.

I will concede that you are nuttier than a fruit cake, however.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Third Party Candidate!

Now some of you will think I am crazy and believe I am suggesting Trump will lose to a third party Candidate but that is not my suggestion at all...

What I am writing about is what happened in 1992 Ross Perot, 2000 Ralph Nader and 2016 Jill Stein...

Still confused?

You need a third party candidate that can take votes away from Trump allowing the Democratic Nominee to slip by and win that key State.

Take Utah and let say Mitt Romney ran as a third party Candidate in that State the reality is Romney could take enough votes from Trump there to flip it to the Democrats and if you do that in key States like Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin with other third party Candidates then you could flip enough States to take the Electoral College from Trump.

Now I know many of you on the left believe your Candidate will win all 57 States of Obama but let be clear Jill Stein cost you the 2016 Electoral College, so why not make sure your candidate has the edge in 2020...

Now many of you will mock this notion, well like when I said the House was going for Obstruction of Congress but let me be clear Democrats your party need a third party Conservative running in those key battleground States so you can make sure you can win...

Well enjoy and I am sure I will be told there is no way that will ever work, but again 1992, 2000 and 2016 proves otherwise...

In answer to your title:

Could they use it? Yes, desperately.

Should they get it? Not a chance.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

No, any one who calls himself a conservative and yet supports the Dem-Prog agenda to spread Socialism throughout our country is not a true conservative.

Well let be clear Donald John Trump is as Conservative as I am sane, and we both know I am one that flew over the nest many times...

So, the reality is if Democrats were smart they would help someone run in key States to take votes from Trump...

I mean wouldn't you do it to stop Democrats?

Trumps policies are actually middle of the road conservative. He's cut taxes, been pro-America etc etc.

I will concede that you are nuttier than a fruit cake, however.

Trump want to pass a new Healthcare plan and has supported and was friends with Bill and Hillary Clinton.

Trump fiscal spending is not Conservative at all and if he win a second term just watch he will show his true colors and become more fiscal liberal with the funds...

Trump is not Fiscal Conservative at all...

Nor Social if you really think about it because where is that fight against gay marriage and so on?

Tax cuts?

No brainers and he was invoking Reagan...

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Third Party Candidate!

Now some of you will think I am crazy and believe I am suggesting Trump will lose to a third party Candidate but that is not my suggestion at all...

What I am writing about is what happened in 1992 Ross Perot, 2000 Ralph Nader and 2016 Jill Stein...

Still confused?

You need a third party candidate that can take votes away from Trump allowing the Democratic Nominee to slip by and win that key State.

Take Utah and let say Mitt Romney ran as a third party Candidate in that State the reality is Romney could take enough votes from Trump there to flip it to the Democrats and if you do that in key States like Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin with other third party Candidates then you could flip enough States to take the Electoral College from Trump.

Now I know many of you on the left believe your Candidate will win all 57 States of Obama but let be clear Jill Stein cost you the 2016 Electoral College, so why not make sure your candidate has the edge in 2020...

Now many of you will mock this notion, well like when I said the House was going for Obstruction of Congress but let me be clear Democrats your party need a third party Conservative running in those key battleground States so you can make sure you can win...

Well enjoy and I am sure I will be told there is no way that will ever work, but again 1992, 2000 and 2016 proves otherwise...

In answer to your title:

Could they use it? Yes, desperately.

Should they get it? Not a chance.

Why not?

Wouldn't it be fun for four years of Sanders?

 

[Fueri]

it might work. Perot may well have helped get Bill Clinton elected.

I don't think that third party candidate wins though. Trump's base is too solid, so in reality this is throwing the Dems a bone that they very much do not deserve.

Here's another idea for them. Run a candidate that isn't fucking nuts and forward some policy ideas to help middle america. Trump has done that. Said it, did it.

IMHO, they're fucked. Without a shift in the economy or other cataclysm, Trump is going to be difficult to beat come November....

 

[Cecilie1200]

No, any one who calls himself a conservative and yet supports the Dem-Prog agenda to spread Socialism throughout our country is not a true conservative.

Well let be clear Donald John Trump is as Conservative as I am sane, and we both know I am one that flew over the nest many times...

So, the reality is if Democrats were smart they would help someone run in key States to take votes from Trump...

I mean wouldn't you do it to stop Democrats?

You're asking cult-level leftist ideologues to admit that they can't beat Trump on the merits of how much everyone agrees with and loves their platform.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Third Party Candidate!

Now some of you will think I am crazy and believe I am suggesting Trump will lose to a third party Candidate but that is not my suggestion at all...

What I am writing about is what happened in 1992 Ross Perot, 2000 Ralph Nader and 2016 Jill Stein...

Still confused?

You need a third party candidate that can take votes away from Trump allowing the Democratic Nominee to slip by and win that key State.

Take Utah and let say Mitt Romney ran as a third party Candidate in that State the reality is Romney could take enough votes from Trump there to flip it to the Democrats and if you do that in key States like Pennsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin with other third party Candidates then you could flip enough States to take the Electoral College from Trump.

Now I know many of you on the left believe your Candidate will win all 57 States of Obama but let be clear Jill Stein cost you the 2016 Electoral College, so why not make sure your candidate has the edge in 2020...

Now many of you will mock this notion, well like when I said the House was going for Obstruction of Congress but let me be clear Democrats your party need a third party Conservative running in those key battleground States so you can make sure you can win...

Well enjoy and I am sure I will be told there is no way that will ever work, but again 1992, 2000 and 2016 proves otherwise...

In answer to your title:

Could they use it? Yes, desperately.

Should they get it? Not a chance.

Why not?

Wouldn't it be fun for four years of Sanders?

Did you just suggest letting a socialist take control of the US for the "fun" of it?

Do you also burn down your house when you want to roast marshmallows?

 

[sparky]

so there's 3rd parties being viewed as political leverage vs. 3rd parties becoming a viable reality?

The Third-Party Impact on American Politics

~S~

 

[22lcidw]

No, any one who calls himself a conservative and yet supports the Dem-Prog agenda to spread Socialism throughout our country is not a true conservative.

Well let be clear Donald John Trump is as Conservative as I am sane, and we both know I am one that flew over the nest many times...

So, the reality is if Democrats were smart they would help someone run in key States to take votes from Trump...

I mean wouldn't you do it to stop Democrats?

What is sad about that is things like that have to be done to win elections. I voted for Perot in 1992. I now believe he was in the race to get Clinton elected in 1992. I also believe he was in the race to get Clinton elected in 1996. Perot, Clinton and Bush senior were in a tight race in 1992 when Perot inexpicibly left the race. Perot then came back in some time later. Perot ended up with enough votes to guarantee Clinton the win. The masters did not want 12 years of Repub power to become 16 years. And a weak candidate like Dole may have made it 20 years. Moving to the left is something that is being forced on us whether we like it or not.