How to stop the BP oil spill: What else can be tried now?

[SpidermanTuba]

You need to join the 21st century: Technology has made it possible for me to make Jambalya on Monday using Frozen Shrimp that were swimming in Thailand a few days before, and only pay $5/lb at Wal-Mart.

I fail to see how eating shitty seafood is justified by the mere existence of the technology which makes it possible to eat it.

Let's face the facts: The biggest tourist draws on the Redneck Riviera are the Casinos,...

Not in this state.

 

[Samson]

You need to join the 21st century: Technology has made it possible for me to make Jambalya on Monday using Frozen Shrimp that were swimming in Thailand a few days before, and only pay $5/lb at Wal-Mart.

I fail to see how eating shitty seafood is justified by the mere existence of the technology which makes it possible to eat it.

Let's face the facts: The biggest tourist draws on the Redneck Riviera are the Casinos,...

Not in this state.

Jaysus, you're worse off than not being aware of 21st Century technology

No wonder you're so devoted to your so-called "Great Seafood:"

BUILD A FUCKING CASINO, for christssakes.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

I'm in Colorado, sweetie, there's no fucking way I'm getting Fresh Shrimp from the Gulf of Meico or anywhere else, and, frankly, don't really care that much: If I wanna eat a fish, I go pull a trout out of a river of flowing snowmelt.

The truth comes out!

If I wanna fly somewhere to Eat Fresh Seafood, I can go to Bubba Gump's House in South Carolina, or to California, or to Chesapeake Bay....Gulf Coast has no Monopoly on Shrimp.

I remember eating Yankee oysters. I couldn't believe how tiny they were. They were the size of a dime.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Why don't Liberals start their own country?

 

[California Girl]

In terms of what this oil spill means for the gulf coast and its long term effects it will be tragic for years to come and it's my hope that BP does step up to the plate and helps mitigate some the damage caused by this well. However, speculating on how engineers can seal off the flow of oil from this well is just that speculation, and I have every confidence that a solution will be found and the challenge will be met and the well sealed off. The after-effects of this spill will need to be addressed by cool heads and not by reactionary voices using this as a hammer or as a gotcha to further some agenda when the real tragic results of this spill will be the people living it. I frankly find it somewhat amusing everytime I hear from the extreme anti-petro side of this argurment they are doing so on a petro based product and no doubt at some tie duing the week consuming any number of products produced by that same industry all the while condemning its use for others except for themselves. It's prudent for our nation to move forward in a DIVERSE energy solution for the future and one that includes fossil fuels for the near term and using this tragic spill to promote favored solitions does not help in that promotion.

As always, calm rational though from Navy. It's a pity that some of the ranters won't read your post.

People think petro companies just run cars. No one stops to think how much of our economy relies on their products. Ranters don't consider that they, as much as anyone else, need these products. Without the products of petro corps, no fishing boats go out, so no fishing industry, no transport so not only do none of us get to work, but we don't eat, we can't buy clothes or anything else.

The west functions on these products. I get called 'selfish' for driving.... I wonder if they stop to consider how selfish they are... by fishing, eating, dressing, pretty much everything we do and buy is impacted by this industry.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

You need to join the 21st century: Technology has made it possible for me to make Jambalya on Monday using Frozen Shrimp that were swimming in Thailand a few days before, and only pay $5/lb at Wal-Mart.

I fail to see how eating shitty seafood is justified by the mere existence of the technology which makes it possible to eat it.

Let's face the facts: The biggest tourist draws on the Redneck Riviera are the Casinos,...

Not in this state.

Jaysus, you're worse off than not being aware of 21st Century technology

No wonder you're so devoted to your so-called "Great Seafood:"

BUILD A FUCKING CASINO, for christssakes.

I'm well of aware of it, thanks, its what makes it possible for me to have fresh oysters year round without getting sick.

There is a casino in every major city in Louisiana along the I-10 corridor. Three in Baton Rouge alone. Turns out they are mostly ways for Casino companies to make money off the locals (with the possible exception being Lake Charles casinos, since they are so close to Texass)

 

[SpidermanTuba]

Why don't Liberals start their own country?

We already did. Its called the United States of America.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

People think petro companies just run cars.

No they don't. You'd just prefer they thought that because it makes your argument easier.

The west functions on these products. I get called 'selfish' for driving.... I wonder if they stop to consider how selfish they are... by fishing, eating, dressing, pretty much everything we do and buy is impacted by this industry.

You aren't selfish because you drive, you're selfish because you're willing to sacrifice so much of what OTHER people have so that you can drive.

If BP doesn't pay for the entirety of this disaster for one reason or another, are you as a taxpayer going to be willing to pony up? Or should we just give our coastline to you for free so you can use petroleum products?

 

[Samson]

I'm in Colorado, sweetie, there's no fucking way I'm getting Fresh Shrimp from the Gulf of Meico or anywhere else, and, frankly, don't really care that much: If I wanna eat a fish, I go pull a trout out of a river of flowing snowmelt.

The truth comes out!

If I wanna fly somewhere to Eat Fresh Seafood, I can go to Bubba Gump's House in South Carolina, or to California, or to Chesapeake Bay....Gulf Coast has no Monopoly on Shrimp.

I remember eating Yankee oysters. I couldn't believe how tiny they were. They were the size of a dime.

Don't Shoot a Yankee untill you can see the size of his oysters.

 

[Flopper]

In terms of what this oil spill means for the gulf coast and its long term effects it will be tragic for years to come and it's my hope that BP does step up to the plate and helps mitigate some the damage caused by this well. However, speculating on how engineers can seal off the flow of oil from this well is just that speculation, and I have every confidence that a solution will be found and the challenge will be met and the well sealed off. The after-effects of this spill will need to be addressed by cool heads and not by reactionary voices using this as a hammer or as a gotcha to further some agenda when the real tragic results of this spill will be the people living it. I frankly find it somewhat amusing everytime I hear from the extreme anti-petro side of this argurment they are doing so on a petro based product and no doubt at some tie duing the week consuming any number of products produced by that same industry all the while condemning its use for others except for themselves. It's prudent for our nation to move forward in a DIVERSE energy solution for the future and one that includes fossil fuels for the near term and using this tragic spill to promote favored solitions does not help in that promotion.

As always, calm rational though from Navy. It's a pity that some of the ranters won't read your post.

People think petro companies just run cars. No one stops to think how much of our economy relies on their products. Ranters don't consider that they, as much as anyone else, need these products. Without the products of petro corps, no fishing boats go out, so no fishing industry, no transport so not only do none of us get to work, but we don't eat, we can't buy clothes or anything else.

The west functions on these products. I get called 'selfish' for driving.... I wonder if they stop to consider how selfish they are... by fishing, eating, dressing, pretty much everything we do and buy is impacted by this industry.

60% of the energy we use in this country comes from petroleum and that's not going to change overnight. Best estimates are that by 2035 we will still be getting 55% from oil. We just need to protect the environment as best we can and move toward better energy sources. Trying to force people to buy into energy saving products that don't meet their needs is not going to work. We have to develop practical alternatives to petroleum.

 

[Claudette]

In terms of what this oil spill means for the gulf coast and its long term effects it will be tragic for years to come and it's my hope that BP does step up to the plate and helps mitigate some the damage caused by this well. However, speculating on how engineers can seal off the flow of oil from this well is just that speculation, and I have every confidence that a solution will be found and the challenge will be met and the well sealed off. The after-effects of this spill will need to be addressed by cool heads and not by reactionary voices using this as a hammer or as a gotcha to further some agenda when the real tragic results of this spill will be the people living it. I frankly find it somewhat amusing everytime I hear from the extreme anti-petro side of this argurment they are doing so on a petro based product and no doubt at some tie duing the week consuming any number of products produced by that same industry all the while condemning its use for others except for themselves. It's prudent for our nation to move forward in a DIVERSE energy solution for the future and one that includes fossil fuels for the near term and using this tragic spill to promote favored solitions does not help in that promotion.

Ditto,

Was watching the news last night and it seems that engineers are trying to put together a dome to fit over the top of the leak. Don't know how that will work but at this point I think anything is worth a try.

As for how this happened? I find that very mysterious. I've heard of leaks being sprung on an oil rig but never that one had blown up.

The fact that Special Ops were sent to other rigs tells me that mayby the Govt knows something we don't and won't for quite some time.

Something to definetly think about.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

In terms of what this oil spill means for the gulf coast and its long term effects it will be tragic for years to come and it's my hope that BP does step up to the plate and helps mitigate some the damage caused by this well. However, speculating on how engineers can seal off the flow of oil from this well is just that speculation, and I have every confidence that a solution will be found and the challenge will be met and the well sealed off. The after-effects of this spill will need to be addressed by cool heads and not by reactionary voices using this as a hammer or as a gotcha to further some agenda when the real tragic results of this spill will be the people living it. I frankly find it somewhat amusing everytime I hear from the extreme anti-petro side of this argurment they are doing so on a petro based product and no doubt at some tie duing the week consuming any number of products produced by that same industry all the while condemning its use for others except for themselves. It's prudent for our nation to move forward in a DIVERSE energy solution for the future and one that includes fossil fuels for the near term and using this tragic spill to promote favored solitions does not help in that promotion.

Ditto,

Was watching the news last night and it seems that engineers are trying to put together a dome to fit over the top of the leak. Don't know how that will work but at this point I think anything is worth a try.

As for how this happened? I find that very mysterious. I've heard of leaks being sprung on an oil rig but never that one had blown up.

The fact that Special Ops were sent to other rigs tells me that mayby the Govt knows something we don't and won't for quite some time.

Something to definetly think about.

If they're talking about fitting a dome over the leak that means they couldn't install a second BOP and they're going to have to drill a secondary well. IMO

 

[xotoxi]

It usually works, as long as you don't get it wet or oily.

 

[beowolfe]

But, there is a reason the industry experts are baffled by this accident and how it happened, why armed DOD units were sent to other rigs, why the Obama admin is urgently blaming and pressuring BP and cornering them into accepting all blame, why they haven't spoken on ruling out other possible causes: Because they aren't sure what caused it, and there is a strong chance and a lot of whispering around intelligence agencies in the US and around the world that this was an attack, not an accident.

Any proof that this is being bantied around? Or is this just your supposition?

As for the giant hood, my first thought was, what happens after the hood fills up? Will the pressure from the oil just launch the hood into the air with all of it's accumulated oil? If so, how far would it go? (As you can probably tell, I think the hood is a really dumb idea.)

 

[Ravi]

In terms of what this oil spill means for the gulf coast and its long term effects it will be tragic for years to come and it's my hope that BP does step up to the plate and helps mitigate some the damage caused by this well. However, speculating on how engineers can seal off the flow of oil from this well is just that speculation, and I have every confidence that a solution will be found and the challenge will be met and the well sealed off. The after-effects of this spill will need to be addressed by cool heads and not by reactionary voices using this as a hammer or as a gotcha to further some agenda when the real tragic results of this spill will be the people living it. I frankly find it somewhat amusing everytime I hear from the extreme anti-petro side of this argurment they are doing so on a petro based product and no doubt at some tie duing the week consuming any number of products produced by that same industry all the while condemning its use for others except for themselves. It's prudent for our nation to move forward in a DIVERSE energy solution for the future and one that includes fossil fuels for the near term and using this tragic spill to promote favored solitions does not help in that promotion.

While I don't agree with your partisan comments I do agree that no one should go off half-cocked and do something stupid like lighting the Gulf of Mexico on fire to stop a gusher. IMO, nothing quick can stop this thing and we are all going to pay the price.

 

[Samson]

It usually works, as long as you don't get it wet or oily.

You've worn this before.

 

[Ravi]

Yeah, you hit the nail on the head: When it comes right down to it, the beaches have always sucked in your state, and shrimp is cheaper to farm in Bangladesh.

Sure if you like your seafood frozen and shipped from a zillion miles away. Sorry you were born without taste.

Note: There's no argument about sucky beaches.

You need to join the 21st century: Technology has made it possible for me to make Jambalya on Monday using Frozen Shrimp that were swimming in Thailand a few days before, and only pay $5/lb at Wal-Mart.

I did use Zataran's Creole Seasoning, which didn't come from Gulf Waters.

Let's face the facts: The biggest tourist draws on the Redneck Riviera are the Casinos, whose business shouldn't be effected except for Blackjack Playing Manatees.

You couldn't be more wrong.

 

[SpidermanTuba]

But, there is a reason the industry experts are baffled by this accident and how it happened, why armed DOD units were sent to other rigs, why the Obama admin is urgently blaming and pressuring BP and cornering them into accepting all blame, why they haven't spoken on ruling out other possible causes: Because they aren't sure what caused it, and there is a strong chance and a lot of whispering around intelligence agencies in the US and around the world that this was an attack, not an accident.

Any proof that this is being bantied around? Or is this just your supposition?

As for the giant hood, my first thought was, what happens after the hood fills up? Will the pressure from the oil just launch the hood into the air with all of it's accumulated oil? If so, how far would it go? (As you can probably tell, I think the hood is a really dumb idea.)

The hood will have a pipe attached to it and the oil will be collected on the surface and shipped to refineries.

 

[Ravi]

If you can't tell the difference between fresh Gulf shrimp and what you get at Red Lobster.. well... you probably think Waffle House is gormet as well. God help you.

I'm in Colorado, sweetie, there's no fucking way I'm getting Fresh Shrimp from the Gulf of Meico or anywhere else, and, frankly, don't really care that much: If I wanna eat a fish, I go pull a trout out of a river of flowing snowmelt.

If I wanna fly somewhere to Eat Fresh Seafood, I can go to Bubba Gump's House in South Carolina, or to California, or to Chesapeake Bay....Gulf Coast has no Monopoly on Shrimp.

Actually...it does. 25% of what we Americans eat as seafood comes from the Gulf Coast.

So if this 25% gets destroyed then prices will go up for what is left to share around.

Not to mention that it is looking possible that the oil will get sucked into the gulf stream...and then you can kiss your Chesapeake Bay shrimp adios.

 

[Samson]

If you can't tell the difference between fresh Gulf shrimp and what you get at Red Lobster.. well... you probably think Waffle House is gormet as well. God help you.

I'm in Colorado, sweetie, there's no fucking way I'm getting Fresh Shrimp from the Gulf of Meico or anywhere else, and, frankly, don't really care that much: If I wanna eat a fish, I go pull a trout out of a river of flowing snowmelt.

If I wanna fly somewhere to Eat Fresh Seafood, I can go to Bubba Gump's House in South Carolina, or to California, or to Chesapeake Bay....Gulf Coast has no Monopoly on Shrimp.

Actually...it does. 25% of what we Americans eat as seafood comes from the Gulf Coast.

So if this 25% gets destroyed then prices will go up for what is left to share around.

Not to mention that it is looking possible that the oil will get sucked into the gulf stream...and then you can kiss your Chesapeake Bay shrimp adios.

What an interesting figure:

"25% of what we Americans eat as seafood comes from the Gulf Coast."

I wonder how that works since according to the World Resources Institute "eighty percent of seafood consumed in the U.S. is currently imported."