How you can tell "Global Warming" (aka: Climate Change, Climate Disruption) is a scam

[CrusaderFrank]

"Citing the confidentiality of the requested documents and the integrity of the scientific process, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said it won’t give Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) what he recently subpoenaed about the research."

Agency won’t give GOP internal docs on climate research

LOL!

Integrity? Temperatures have "integrity" that can't face the light of day?

Real scientists welcome debate and challenge, a scam artists claims "Consensus" calls a skeptic a "denier" then hides the data

 

[Billy_Bob]

I was just reading about this... Its circle the Obama Socialism - One World Government Wagon train... and they are in full HIDE THE DATA mode today!

Like roaches to light... running all over and scurrying about...

 

[CrusaderFrank]

I was just reading about this... Its circle the Obama Socialism - One World Government Wagon train... and they are in full HIDE THE DATA mode today!

Like roaches to light... running all over and scurrying about...

That's the scientific method, right?

I think we should sue them under RICO

 

[Billy_Bob]

I was just looking at the October data to date, and if the next three days hold, the Pause will be 4 months longer as the regression series will lengthen considerably.

It will jump from 18 Years 8 months to 19 years... You can bet there is some adjusting going on today..

 

[depotoo]

No surprise here. They know who currently butters their bread.

 

[Billy_Bob]

I was just reading about this... Its circle the Obama Socialism - One World Government Wagon train... and they are in full HIDE THE DATA mode today!

Like roaches to light... running all over and scurrying about...

That's the scientific method, right?

I think we should sue them under RICO

Let me see...

Defrauding private persons by deception (Theft by Deception)

Depriving persons of their Constitutional rights and infringement on personal liberties (Treason)

Use of force or fear to deprive a person of their property, monies or belongings.. (Aggravated Robbery)

None of those qualify for RICO prosecution, Right?

 

[Billy_Bob]

Throw another logon the fire...cook ,me up some bacon and some beans... throw another logon the fire.....

NCDC/NCEI’s Karl and Peterson refuse congressional subpoena on flawed ‘pausebuster’ paper

This one is gonna hurt....

Agency won’t give GOP internal docs on climate research

The federal government’s chief climate research agency is refusing to give House Republicans the detailed information they want on a controversial study on climate change.

Citing confidentiality concerns and the integrity of the scientific process, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said it won’t give Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) the research documents he subpoenaed.

Refusing Congressional subpoena is going to come back and haunt these bureaucrats.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Oop's

The words "Contempt of Congress" are now being thrown about by the committee that is responsible for their funding.. What could go wrong here?

 

[jc456]

I was just reading about this... Its circle the Obama Socialism - One World Government Wagon train... and they are in full HIDE THE DATA mode today!

Like roaches to light... running all over and scurrying about...

That's the scientific method, right?

I think we should sue them under RICO

Let me see...

Defrauding private persons by deception (Theft by Deception)

Depriving persons of their Constitutional rights and infringement on personal liberties (Treason)

Use of force or fear to deprive a person of their property, monies or belongings.. (Aggravated Robbery)

None of those qualify for RICO prosecution, Right?

Are you saying that the government would like to see test results from the money they gave these gentlemen to run their tests? You mean accountability for funding? No way, no frickin way. These scientists are Gawd, and you can't ask Gawd for results. This congress is nuts.

 

[skookerasbil]

"No matter if the science of global warming is all phony...
climate change provides the greatest opportunity to
bring about justice and equality in the world."
- Christine Stewart,
former Canadian Minister of the Environment


“The data doesn't matter. We're not basing our recommendations
on the data. We're basing them on the climate models.”
- Prof. Chris Folland,
Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research




"It doesn't matter what is true,
it only matters what people believe is true."
- Paul Watson,
co-founder of Greenpeace"



"The common enemy of humanity is man.
In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up
with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming,
water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these
dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through
changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome.
The real enemy then, is humanity itself."
- Club of Rome,
premier environmental think-tank,
consultants to the United Nations




"We need to get some broad based support,
to capture the public's imagination...
So we have to offer up scary scenarios,
make simplified, dramatic statements
and make little mention of any doubts...
Each of us has to decide what the right balance
is between being effective and being honest."
- Prof. Stephen Schneider,
Stanford Professor of Climatology,
lead author of many IPCC reports



The Green Agenda


The committed global warming people are the most easily duped people on the face of the planet.

 

[Old Rocks]

So the Corps of Ignorance rides once again. LOL

 

[Billy_Bob]

So the Corps of Ignorance rides once again. LOL

So where are you riding off to now?

 

[westwall]

"Citing the confidentiality of the requested documents and the integrity of the scientific process, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said it won’t give Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) what he recently subpoenaed about the research."

Agency won’t give GOP internal docs on climate research

LOL!

Integrity? Temperatures have "integrity" that can't face the light of day?

Real scientists welcome debate and challenge, a scam artists claims "Consensus" calls a skeptic a "denier" then hides the data

Actually it's even more cut and dried than that, the scientific method REQUIRES that scientists give their raw data and methods to WHOEVER asks for them so they can be tested.
That is what separates science from religion.

 

[Wyatt earp]

"Citing the confidentiality of the requested documents and the integrity of the scientific process, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said it won’t give Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) what he recently subpoenaed about the research."

Agency won’t give GOP internal docs on climate research

LOL!

Integrity? Temperatures have "integrity" that can't face the light of day?

Real scientists welcome debate and challenge, a scam artists claims "Consensus" calls a skeptic a "denier" then hides the data

Actually it's even more cut and dried than that, the scientific method REQUIRES that scientists give their raw data and methods to WHOEVER asks for them so they can be tested.
That is what separates science from religion.

Damn this reminds me when they wouldn't give bibles to the common man only to the priest.

Why Christians Were Denied Access To Their Bible For 1,000 Years

 

[Crick]

You do realize the only documents being withheld are internal communications between scientists. If Smith believes Karl's study is flawed, why doesn't he just deal with Karl's study? Is it not falsifiable? Does it not identify all of its sources and references? Why does Smith think he needs to overhear the conversations of the scientists involved? Is that how science is done in this country? Is that how American justice works? Does he have evidence of some sort of conspiracy? If this were an issue with the police and private citizens, law enforcement would have to convince a judge that they had damn good reason to believe there were culpable material in those communications before they would be allowed to subpoena them. Who is doing the check and balance on the Head Dick, Smith?

 

[jc456]

You do realize the only documents being withheld are internal communications between scientists. If Smith believes Karl's study is flawed, why doesn't he just deal with Karl's study? Is it not falsifiable? Does it not identify all of its sources and references? Why does Smith think he needs to overhear the conversations of the scientists involved? Is that how science is done in this country? Is that how American justice works? Does he have evidence of some sort of conspiracy? If this were an issue with the police and private citizens, law enforcement would have to convince a judge that they had damn good reason to believe there were culpable material in those communications before they would be allowed to subpoena them. Who is doing the check and balance on the Head Dick, Smith?

why? why are any documents being withheld? Congress of the US asked for documents. Who do these folks think they are that they can just flip them off? I'm expecting to see some legal action here. Funny you and yours talk about the science and then your side hides information like they are guilty of something.

WTF?

 

[westwall]

You do realize the only documents being withheld are internal communications between scientists. If Smith believes Karl's study is flawed, why doesn't he just deal with Karl's study? Is it not falsifiable? Does it not identify all of its sources and references? Why does Smith think he needs to overhear the conversations of the scientists involved? Is that how science is done in this country? Is that how American justice works? Does he have evidence of some sort of conspiracy? If this were an issue with the police and private citizens, law enforcement would have to convince a judge that they had damn good reason to believe there were culpable material in those communications before they would be allowed to subpoena them. Who is doing the check and balance on the Head Dick, Smith?

You mean like the ones released in CLIMATEGATE where the scientists were all telling each other to lie about their lack of results? I think that qualifies, don't you? Science is supposed to be OPEN for all to see. Funny how you warmists try and hide everything that you do.

EVERYTHING!

 

[mamooth]

As expected, the deniers here are all competing to see who can push their scientific Stalinism the most enthusiastically.

None of 'em can explain why looking at the data and methods is insufficient. All of that has been released, despite deniers all lying big and claiming otherwise. And we all know why they won't look at the science. It's because all the science contradicts them. Instead, they're reduced to attempting endless fishing expeditions so they can find more email snippets to lie about. It's the only tactic they have left.

The House science committee is worse than the Benghazi committee
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The science committee's modus operandi is similar to the Benghazi committee's — sweeping, catchall investigations, with no specific allegations of wrongdoing or clear rationale, searching through private documents for out-of-context bits and pieces to leak to the press, hoping to gain short-term political advantage — but it stands to do more lasting long-term damage.

In both cases, the investigations have continued long after all questions have been answered. (There were half a dozen probes into Benghazi before this one.) In both cases, the chair has drifted from inquiry to inquisition. But with Benghazi, the only threat is to the reputation of Hillary Clinton, who has the resources to defend herself. With the science committee, it is working scientists being intimidated, who often do not have the resources to defend themselves, and the threat is to the integrity of the scientific process in the US. It won't take much for scientists to get the message that research into politically contested topics is more hassle than it's worth.
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Denialism is a modern incarnation of Stalinism, thus every loyal American is morally bound to oppose it.

 

[jc456]

As expected, the deniers here are all competing to see who can push their scientific Stalinism the most enthusiastically.

None of 'em can explain why looking at the data and methods is insufficient. All of that has been released, despite deniers all lying big and claiming otherwise. And we all know why they won't look at the science. It's because all the science contradicts them. Instead, they're reduced to attempting endless fishing expeditions so they can find more email snippets to lie about. It's the only tactic they have left.

The House science committee is worse than the Benghazi committee

The House science committee is worse than the Benghazi committee
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The science committee's modus operandi is similar to the Benghazi committee's — sweeping, catchall investigations, with no specific allegations of wrongdoing or clear rationale, searching through private documents for out-of-context bits and pieces to leak to the press, hoping to gain short-term political advantage — but it stands to do more lasting long-term damage.

In both cases, the investigations have continued long after all questions have been answered. (There were half a dozen probes into Benghazi before this one.) In both cases, the chair has drifted from inquiry to inquisition. But with Benghazi, the only threat is to the reputation of Hillary Clinton, who has the resources to defend herself. With the science committee, it is working scientists being intimidated, who often do not have the resources to defend themselves, and the threat is to the integrity of the scientific process in the US. It won't take much for scientists to get the message that research into politically contested topics is more hassle than it's worth.
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Denialism is a modern incarnation of Stalinism, thus every loyal American is morally bound to oppose it.

I expect you'd know what Stalinism is. Thanks for that. We knew you and your friends love the man and his programs. You most likely have photos of him in your basement.

But back to global warming per the OP.

 

[danielpalos]

"Citing the confidentiality of the requested documents and the integrity of the scientific process, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) said it won’t give Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) what he recently subpoenaed about the research."

Agency won’t give GOP internal docs on climate research

LOL!

Integrity? Temperatures have "integrity" that can't face the light of day?

Real scientists welcome debate and challenge, a scam artists claims "Consensus" calls a skeptic a "denier" then hides the data

Climate change happens regardless of human intervention; shouldn't we be working toward advances in technology in order to enable habitation most any place on Earth regardless of climate change?