I had to pay 7 damn dollars for a single light bulb yesterday

[darroll]

Go to a lighting supply store. They have them hidden from view.

 

[Clementine]

Lowes and Home Depot have plenty of incandescent bulbs.

For now. I thought they were supposed to stop manufacturing them, but are allowed to sell the ones that have already been made. They are outlawing them, so I suppose people should stock up before they are all gone.

I refuse to buy the damn curly bulbs.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Lowes and Home Depot have plenty of incandescent bulbs.

For now. I thought they were supposed to stop manufacturing them, but are allowed to sell the ones that have already been made. They are outlawing them, so I suppose people should stock up before they are all gone.

I refuse to buy the damn curly bulbs.

They are trying to hide the curly bulbs inside old fashioned globes now.

 

[Moonglow]

Gramps misses the good old days with that incandescent light

At least when they tucked him in, he didn't have to pay for the bulbs...

 

[Moonglow]

Last week I broke the flood light that's been on the front of the house for years. New bulb $16.00. To a progressive I guess that's progress.

Legislation passed 2007:

U.S. bulb factories will stop producing best-selling 40-watt and 60-watt incandescent bulbs from 2014. According to this prohibition adopted in 2007, US eliminated incandescent bulbs more than 100 watt since 2012, and discontinued 75 watts and 100 watts incandescent lamps since 2013. This controversial law designed to promote energy-saving compact fluorescent lamps, LED light bulbs and other energy efficiency lighting.

Would have been nice to have had more media attention before it went into effect....

Yup, under the radar, signed by the piece of shit, G W Bush.

He also forced that damn ethanol on us also.....which does not use light bulbs at a high price.
[to note: this is a disclaimer that resolves the issue of posting anything that is off topic, even by the use of inanity.]

 

[Gracie]

I have a huge box of lightbulbs...all from yard sales, already in old funky lamps. We either scrap the lamps or donate them to thrift shops...but not until we take out the bulbs!

 

[Jarlaxle]

Last week I broke the flood light that's been on the front of the house for years. New bulb $16.00. To a progressive I guess that's progress.

Yes, weird specialty bulbs are expensive. The one for my mother's driveway light was about $12. (That's why I do not have any lights that use weird specialty bulbs!)

 

[Jarlaxle]

Why??? WTF was wrong with traditional bulbs? What government entity thought this was a smart idea? Did they include subsidies for the poor to be able to afford these bulbs?

7 dollars ? They must have seen you coming!!

$8.78 for a 4 pack at Lowes

Utilitech 4-Pack 13-Watt (60W) T3 Medium Base Natural Daylight CFL Bulbs ENERGY STAR

Local supermarket has 2-packs for five bucks.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Why??? WTF was wrong with traditional bulbs? What government entity thought this was a smart idea? Did they include subsidies for the poor to be able to afford these bulbs?

CFL or LED?

CFL Reveal I assume. It was the only 3 way bulb available at my grocer. And I wasn't gonna make a special trip somewhere else for one bulb.

Excuse me, but I need to launch that hanging curveball: incandescent 3-way bulbs are still available!

And, of course, being a GE "Reveal" means double the price of a normal bulb! (It also means it uses more power to make less light.)

 

[Jarlaxle]

I have a huge box of lightbulbs...all from yard sales, already in old funky lamps. We either scrap the lamps or donate them to thrift shops...but not until we take out the bulbs!

Is it next to your stash of rotary phones, Betamax VCR's, manual typewriters, and disco 8-tracks?

 

[edthecynic]

Why??? WTF was wrong with traditional bulbs? What government entity thought this was a smart idea? Did they include subsidies for the poor to be able to afford these bulbs?

The Right are idiots!

https://www.1000bulbs.com/category/100-watt-standard-shape-light-bulbs/

[ame=http://www.amazon.com/GE-White-Incandescent-Light-Bulbs/dp/B0055T5VW8]48 100 Watt GE Soft White Incandescent Light Bulbs (Case of 48) - - Amazon.com[/ame]

 

[edthecynic]

Why??? WTF was wrong with traditional bulbs? What government entity thought this was a smart idea? Did they include subsidies for the poor to be able to afford these bulbs?

CFL or LED?

CFL Reveal I assume. It was the only 3 way bulb available at my grocer. And I wasn't gonna make a special trip somewhere else for one bulb.

Order it online and they will actually deliver it to your door!

https://www.1000bulbs.com/category/3-way-light-bulbs/

3 Way Incandescent Light Bulbs

 

[ScreamingEagle]

Lowes and Home Depot have plenty of incandescent bulbs.

For now. I thought they were supposed to stop manufacturing them, but are allowed to sell the ones that have already been made. They are outlawing them, so I suppose people should stock up before they are all gone.

I refuse to buy the damn curly bulbs.

me too.....i've also been stocking up on the incandescents....screw the PC CFLs...

The Reasons why CFL's are a rip-off

1 Cost- Compact-Flourescent Lamps, or CFL's are expensive to buy, compared to standard incandescent "A-Line" Lamps(bulbs). The claims are that CFL bulbs, also called "Twisty bulbs," will pay back their much higher initial purchase price in so-called energy savings and claimed longer lamp life. In commercial and industrial use, they can net a small payback, but in residintial applications, a payback is not likely to happen, and if any, it will be so small as to be insignificant, especially after the cost of disposing(recycling) of burned-out lamps is factored in. Also, if incandescents and halogens are banned(proposed for 2012), the lame-duck beauracrats and politicians will make the lamp makers monopolize CFL bulbs, and the price will go UP, not down! They are already a rip-off!


2 Disposal- CFL bulbs contain many nasty toxic substances. You likely know of the mercury they contain already, but they also have things like lead(stabilizer in the plastic ballast housings), arsenic in the electronic parts, phenol in circuit boards, cyanide to process metals for parts, toxic phosphors, and the list goes on and on! They can't be tossed in the trash can, and have to be saved and recycled(expensive!) when they burn out. Incandescents are not only easily recycled, but can be discarded in the trash- the glass and metals used are inert!


3 FIRE DANGER! CFL bulbs with built in electronic ballasts, like the twisty bulbs, have a serious inherent flaw- they are poorly designed, in an effort to maximize profits for lamp makers and beurecrats, and have overheating problems with the electronic ballasts. They are supposed to have internal fusres, but the fuses blew early, causing very short lamp life, so "fusible resistors" were substituted, that, that, instead of blowing, they just get red-hotand eventually burn out, insuring longer lamp life, but often igniting the plastic bases or causing other allast parts to burn up, igniting the plastic base and circuit boards. Several major fires were caused by CFL retrofit bulbs! The lamp makers claim it's "normal for CFL bulbs to emit smoke, odor, sparks, and some flames at the end-of-life(EOL)- it's harmless." WELL- if this is "normal", something is VERY wrong . If you use this junk-yes, JUNK, don't leave them on when when not home, or in basements, attics, closets, or other unused spaces- you may end up with a pile of ashes that used to be your house! CFL's also have bogus UL and CSA stampings, even names brand like GE and Sylvannia, etc!


4 Life, Lumen maintenance- CFL bulbs with integral electronic ballasts have issues with uniform lamp life. For every CFL that lasts to or even past the rated life, in hours, 10 or more will have a much shorter life- some will even fail before 1 hour! Some will be bad and non-operational right out of the package. Most can't be returned to the store where they were purchased, and the companies that make them won't even bother to help you at all. This is a sad situation, and one I see more and more today! The lumen maintenance, if the lamp achieves the rated life stated, is generally very poor- much worse than incandescent, so efficiency drops dramatically throughout life. At 3,000 hours, a typical twisty bulb, rated life of 8,000 hours, will be as low as 50% of it's initial lumens! This is very poor performance, and thypical of these small, heavily loaded, hot running fluorescent lamps!


5 Quality- Generally speaking, quality of CFL bulbs is poor. The bases should be made of aluminum to dissipate ballast heat, but cheap, heat-trapping plastic is used to cut costs! The tubes aren't phosphor coated uniformly, and heavy areas actually trap light and cause darker areas, lowering lamp efficiency quite a lot. Mercury dosing is seldom controlled well, and it's not unusual to see 13-watt CFL's with more mercury inside than a 1,000 watt mercury vapor lamp! The ballasts in CFL's are made with poor quality electronic components and lack proper heat-sinks on critical components-bad practice! The fragile glass tubes are easily broken, and the UL listings fake and bogus. Light output claims are generally incorrect and a lie. The are not REAL bulbs!


6 Country of origin- It should be noted that none of the current CFL lamps are U.S. Made! Most, over 95%, come from China, banning incandescents will insure the demise of American lamp makers and jobs!


7 Quality of light- Despite claims that the newer CFL bulbs "have nearly the same quality of light as incandescent lamps," the claims are bogus. The color rendering index(CRI) of incandescents and halogens is 100, while most CFL's are around82. This means CFL's don't show the colors of objects and surroundings nearly as well as incandescents. Many people find CFL lamps to be harsh, sterile, and unnatural. Even lamps(CFL) in the same color temperature range, 2700 to 3000 kelvins, as incandescent lamps seem harsh and unnatural. The other CFL colors do have merit, such as 3500k, 4100k, 5000k, and 6500k, because incandescents generally can't emit these colors without colored bulbs, and even then, light output will be much lower in these special color lamps. G-E REVEAL is an example of an incandescent lamp that uses blue-purple neodymium glass to produce about 3200k-3500k color temperatures. However, REVEAL lamps give up to 25% less light than a standard clear, frost, or soft white bulbs. Here is where some CFL's have merit. You can get a. say. 6500k daylight color from a standard incandescent socket. But, also remember, the REVEAL bulb has a CRI of 90 to 100 vs a 3500k CFL at 82. In this case the CFL gives a certain color of light at higher efficiency. The "soft white" CFL's(2700k-3000k) really aren't worthwhile to replace standard incandescents. The just made things look "funny" and harsh.


8 CFL=Chronic Fatigue Lamp- They have gone to high-frequency electronic ballasts in most modern fluorescents today, with NO regards to the proven fact that these T-5, T-8, and CFL lamps operated at high frequency may cause Chronic Fatigue Symptoms in people exposed to them. People who tried CFL bulbs often had to go back to incandescents because the CFL's made them tired, and gave them bad headaches. I find that these new lights cause me to have bad bouts of MS fatigue, and I avoid them like The Plague! If they ban incandescents, just what are folks like me going to do! LED's aren't an option, they also cause fatigue. This is a serious issue, and millions will suffer. I'd venture to say that the high-frequency electromagnetic radiation may be damaging to our health in other ways as well.


9 Usage restrictions- CFL's are quite restricted as to usage and applications. They don't fit all fixtures, shouldn't be used in an enclosed tight-fitting glass and plastic globes, etc., can't be used with dimmers(and dimmable lamps are expensive!) because a dimmer will cause a serious CFL ballast burn-up and maybe even a fire, they will fail fast in very damp and wet locations, will not light brightly in cold weather, cannot be used in appliances such as ovens, refrigerators, etc, are dangerous in garage "lead-lights"-NEVER USE THEM HERE! They perform very poorly in recessed "hi-hat" fixtures, and look awful in fixtures with exposed lamps, such as chandeliers, vanity lights, etc. Though "3-way" CFL's exist, they are expensive, hard to find, and on the lower settings they look dim, dreary, and pinkish. To ban incandescents is to make over half the sockets in the U.S.A unusable. Not a smart idea.


10 Propoganda- Stuff like TV ads sponsored by the beaurocrats at NYSERDA, the DOE, etc pushing us to use this junk, also teachers in schools telling students to tell their parents to switch to CFL, and even worse, LED bulbs, power utilities handing them out for free, stores pitching them heavily on ads and in stores. All propoganda. The Eco-Greenie enviromentalists are no better. Yeah, and I have ocean-front property in Arizona, too! The enviro-screwballs actually got President Bush to sign into "law" the ban on incandescent bulbs, and they drove the documents to Congress in a Toyota Prius-GIVE ME A BREAK- this was NOT serious, but rather a public display of utter stupidity and political idiocy! And you wonder why our people are getting dumber and dumber? This is an example, Oh- and to AL GORE- screw a twisty-bulb in your ear- you'll have to pry my "inefficient" incandescents from my COLD DEAD HANDS!

Why CFLs are a Ripoff

 

[LoneLaugher]

Nutters are ripe for the pickin'.

 

[Jarlaxle]

Lowes and Home Depot have plenty of incandescent bulbs.

For now. I thought they were supposed to stop manufacturing them, but are allowed to sell the ones that have already been made. They are outlawing them, so I suppose people should stock up before they are all gone.

I refuse to buy the damn curly bulbs.

me too.....i've also been stocking up on the incandescents....screw the PC CFLs...

The Reasons why CFL's are a rip-off

1 Cost- Compact-Flourescent Lamps, or CFL's are expensive to buy, compared to standard incandescent "A-Line" Lamps(bulbs). The claims are that CFL bulbs, also called "Twisty bulbs," will pay back their much higher initial purchase price in so-called energy savings and claimed longer lamp life. In commercial and industrial use, they can net a small payback, but in residintial applications, a payback is not likely to happen, and if any, it will be so small as to be insignificant, especially after the cost of disposing(recycling) of burned-out lamps is factored in. Also, if incandescents and halogens are banned(proposed for 2012), the lame-duck beauracrats and politicians will make the lamp makers monopolize CFL bulbs, and the price will go UP, not down! They are already a rip-off!

Pablum. They more than pay for themselves just in bulbs I do not need to replace...and I have actually done the math, the power saving is worth it!

2 Disposal- CFL bulbs contain many nasty toxic substances. You likely know of the mercury they contain already, but they also have things like lead(stabilizer in the plastic ballast housings), arsenic in the electronic parts, phenol in circuit boards, cyanide to process metals for parts, toxic phosphors, and the list goes on and on! They can't be tossed in the trash can, and have to be saved and recycled(expensive!) when they burn out. Incandescents are not only easily recycled, but can be discarded in the trash- the glass and metals used are inert!

Lowe's, Home Depot, and many other places recycle them for no charge!

3 FIRE DANGER! CFL bulbs with built in electronic ballasts, like the twisty bulbs, have a serious inherent flaw- they are poorly designed, in an effort to maximize profits for lamp makers and beurecrats, and have overheating problems with the electronic ballasts. They are supposed to have internal fusres, but the fuses blew early, causing very short lamp life, so "fusible resistors" were substituted, that, that, instead of blowing, they just get red-hotand eventually burn out, insuring longer lamp life, but often igniting the plastic bases or causing other allast parts to burn up, igniting the plastic base and circuit boards. Several major fires were caused by CFL retrofit bulbs! The lamp makers claim it's "normal for CFL bulbs to emit smoke, odor, sparks, and some flames at the end-of-life(EOL)- it's harmless." WELL- if this is "normal", something is VERY wrong . If you use this junk-yes, JUNK, don't leave them on when when not home, or in basements, attics, closets, or other unused spaces- you may end up with a pile of ashes that used to be your house! CFL's also have bogus UL and CSA stampings, even names brand like GE and Sylvannia, etc!

After almost fifteen years of using them, I have observed this happen zero times!

4 Life, Lumen maintenance- CFL bulbs with integral electronic ballasts have issues with uniform lamp life. For every CFL that lasts to or even past the rated life, in hours, 10 or more will have a much shorter life- some will even fail before 1 hour! Some will be bad and non-operational right out of the package. Most can't be returned to the store where they were purchased, and the companies that make them won't even bother to help you at all. This is a sad situation, and one I see more and more today! The lumen maintenance, if the lamp achieves the rated life stated, is generally very poor- much worse than incandescent, so efficiency drops dramatically throughout life. At 3,000 hours, a typical twisty bulb, rated life of 8,000 hours, will be as low as 50% of it's initial lumens! This is very poor performance, and thypical of these small, heavily loaded, hot running fluorescent lamps!

Have not noticed anything resembling this...I replaced THREE in fifteen years. One was killed by a lamp with a short, the other two were on 9-14 hours a day, 365 days a year, for ten years! Aside from those two, I cannot speak to the life because none of them actually reached the end of their life!

5 Quality- Generally speaking, quality of CFL bulbs is poor. The bases should be made of aluminum to dissipate ballast heat, but cheap, heat-trapping plastic is used to cut costs! The tubes aren't phosphor coated uniformly, and heavy areas actually trap light and cause darker areas, lowering lamp efficiency quite a lot. Mercury dosing is seldom controlled well, and it's not unusual to see 13-watt CFL's with more mercury inside than a 1,000 watt mercury vapor lamp! The ballasts in CFL's are made with poor quality electronic components and lack proper heat-sinks on critical components-bad practice! The fragile glass tubes are easily broken, and the UL listings fake and bogus. Light output claims are generally incorrect and a lie. The are not REAL bulbs!

Yes, they are, and no amount of bleating will change that! (Also note: I have seen plenty of incandescent bulbs with poor QC!)

6 Country of origin- It should be noted that none of the current CFL lamps are U.S. Made! Most, over 95%, come from China, banning incandescents will insure the demise of American lamp makers and jobs!

And most regular bulbs weren't made here, either. (I have seen China, Poland, Hungary, and Korea.)

7 Quality of light- Despite claims that the newer CFL bulbs "have nearly the same quality of light as incandescent lamps," the claims are bogus. The color rendering index(CRI) of incandescents and halogens is 100, while most CFL's are around82. This means CFL's don't show the colors of objects and surroundings nearly as well as incandescents. Many people find CFL lamps to be harsh, sterile, and unnatural. Even lamps(CFL) in the same color temperature range, 2700 to 3000 kelvins, as incandescent lamps seem harsh and unnatural. The other CFL colors do have merit, such as 3500k, 4100k, 5000k, and 6500k, because incandescents generally can't emit these colors without colored bulbs, and even then, light output will be much lower in these special color lamps. G-E REVEAL is an example of an incandescent lamp that uses blue-purple neodymium glass to produce about 3200k-3500k color temperatures. However, REVEAL lamps give up to 25% less light than a standard clear, frost, or soft white bulbs. Here is where some CFL's have merit. You can get a. say. 6500k daylight color from a standard incandescent socket. But, also remember, the REVEAL bulb has a CRI of 90 to 100 vs a 3500k CFL at 82. In this case the CFL gives a certain color of light at higher efficiency. The "soft white" CFL's(2700k-3000k) really aren't worthwhile to replace standard incandescents. The just made things look "funny" and harsh.

You can get a CFL in many different spectrums, from daylight, to warm white, to the cool-white I prefer. (I never liked the sickly yellow light of a non-halogen incandescent.)

8 CFL=Chronic Fatigue Lamp- They have gone to high-frequency electronic ballasts in most modern fluorescents today, with NO regards to the proven fact that these T-5, T-8, and CFL lamps operated at high frequency may cause Chronic Fatigue Symptoms in people exposed to them. People who tried CFL bulbs often had to go back to incandescents because the CFL's made them tired, and gave them bad headaches. I find that these new lights cause me to have bad bouts of MS fatigue, and I avoid them like The Plague! If they ban incandescents, just what are folks like me going to do! LED's aren't an option, they also cause fatigue. This is a serious issue, and millions will suffer. I'd venture to say that the high-frequency electromagnetic radiation may be damaging to our health in other ways as well.

Excuse me, your black helicopter has landed.

9 Usage restrictions- CFL's are quite restricted as to usage and applications. They don't fit all fixtures, shouldn't be used in an enclosed tight-fitting glass and plastic globes, etc., can't be used with dimmers(and dimmable lamps are expensive!) because a dimmer will cause a serious CFL ballast burn-up and maybe even a fire, they will fail fast in very damp and wet locations, will not light brightly in cold weather, cannot be used in appliances such as ovens, refrigerators, etc, are dangerous in garage "lead-lights"-NEVER USE THEM HERE! They perform very poorly in recessed "hi-hat" fixtures, and look awful in fixtures with exposed lamps, such as chandeliers, vanity lights, etc. Though "3-way" CFL's exist, they are expensive, hard to find, and on the lower settings they look dim, dreary, and pinkish. To ban incandescents is to make over half the sockets in the U.S.A unusable. Not a smart idea.

I switched everything to CFL's fifteen years ago...high temp, low temp, enclosed fixtures, exposed lamps. (I have no dimmers & do not use 3-ways.) Non-issue.

10 Propoganda- Stuff like TV ads sponsored by the beaurocrats at NYSERDA, the DOE, etc pushing us to use this junk, also teachers in schools telling students to tell their parents to switch to CFL, and even worse, LED bulbs, power utilities handing them out for free, stores pitching them heavily on ads and in stores. All propoganda. The Eco-Greenie enviromentalists are no better. Yeah, and I have ocean-front property in Arizona, too! The enviro-screwballs actually got President Bush to sign into "law" the ban on incandescent bulbs, and they drove the documents to Congress in a Toyota Prius-GIVE ME A BREAK- this was NOT serious, but rather a public display of utter stupidity and political idiocy! And you wonder why our people are getting dumber and dumber? This is an example, Oh- and to AL GORE- screw a twisty-bulb in your ear- you'll have to pry my "inefficient" incandescents from my COLD DEAD HANDS!

Why CFLs are a Ripoff

Time for more Thorazine, dude...

 

[Redfish]

Why??? WTF was wrong with traditional bulbs? What government entity thought this was a smart idea? Did they include subsidies for the poor to be able to afford these bulbs?

7 dollars ? They must have seen you coming!!

$8.78 for a 4 pack at Lowes

Utilitech 4-Pack 13-Watt (60W) T3 Medium Base Natural Daylight CFL Bulbs ENERGY STAR

He likes to exaggerate. Besides they last for like 9 years, that would be a buck a year for a bulb.

Cheapskates.

Don't break one, chickie. they are full of mercury and will cause your hair to fall out and your boobs to shrink----------then they will kill you.

THE THINGS ARE FULL OF POISON----------WAKE THE FUCK UP.

LEDS are fine but the CFLs will kill you.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

CFL or LED?

CFL Reveal I assume. It was the only 3 way bulb available at my grocer. And I wasn't gonna make a special trip somewhere else for one bulb.

Excuse me, but I need to launch that hanging curveball: incandescent 3-way bulbs are still available!

And, of course, being a GE "Reveal" means double the price of a normal bulb! (It also means it uses more power to make less light.)

Excuse me but it's what was available to purchase in the store I was shopping at. Least you have me "burn" "oil" & "gas" to go purchase elsewhere.

Fuck almighty. Some of you fools would spend 5 bucks in oil to drive somewhere else to save 2 dollars. And ya call me stupid lol

 

[ScreamingEagle]

For now. I thought they were supposed to stop manufacturing them, but are allowed to sell the ones that have already been made. They are outlawing them, so I suppose people should stock up before they are all gone.

I refuse to buy the damn curly bulbs.

me too.....i've also been stocking up on the incandescents....screw the PC CFLs...



Pablum. They more than pay for themselves just in bulbs I do not need to replace...and I have actually done the math, the power saving is worth it!



Lowe's, Home Depot, and many other places recycle them for no charge!



After almost fifteen years of using them, I have observed this happen zero times!



Have not noticed anything resembling this...I replaced THREE in fifteen years. One was killed by a lamp with a short, the other two were on 9-14 hours a day, 365 days a year, for ten years! Aside from those two, I cannot speak to the life because none of them actually reached the end of their life!



Yes, they are, and no amount of bleating will change that! (Also note: I have seen plenty of incandescent bulbs with poor QC!)



And most regular bulbs weren't made here, either. (I have seen China, Poland, Hungary, and Korea.)



You can get a CFL in many different spectrums, from daylight, to warm white, to the cool-white I prefer. (I never liked the sickly yellow light of a non-halogen incandescent.)



Excuse me, your black helicopter has landed.



I switched everything to CFL's fifteen years ago...high temp, low temp, enclosed fixtures, exposed lamps. (I have no dimmers & do not use 3-ways.) Non-issue.

10 Propoganda- Stuff like TV ads sponsored by the beaurocrats at NYSERDA, the DOE, etc pushing us to use this junk, also teachers in schools telling students to tell their parents to switch to CFL, and even worse, LED bulbs, power utilities handing them out for free, stores pitching them heavily on ads and in stores. All propoganda. The Eco-Greenie enviromentalists are no better. Yeah, and I have ocean-front property in Arizona, too! The enviro-screwballs actually got President Bush to sign into "law" the ban on incandescent bulbs, and they drove the documents to Congress in a Toyota Prius-GIVE ME A BREAK- this was NOT serious, but rather a public display of utter stupidity and political idiocy! And you wonder why our people are getting dumber and dumber? This is an example, Oh- and to AL GORE- screw a twisty-bulb in your ear- you'll have to pry my "inefficient" incandescents from my COLD DEAD HANDS!

Why CFLs are a Ripoff

Time for more Thorazine, dude...

stop inhaling those CFL mercury fumes dude....i'll take the word of Rick Delair of the Edison Tech Center over your personal experience...

personally i don't like the cost....the poor light....the dangers in a stupid lightbulb....i also don't like the fools in the government dictating what i can buy......in what should be a FREE MARKET....

here's another article.....it's got some personal experiences too....it points out some of the dangers of this government insanity not only for CFLs but LEDs as well....incandescents are far more safer and economical but Big Government thinks it is superior to a free market....

New evidence of CFLs causing fires -- even exploding -- as well as new environmental concerns have come to light since my article The CFL Fraud published. Here are some of the additional fires:


"I had one of these CFL's in my garage socket, and it blew a component (not the glass corkscrew) and caught fire. Fortunately, I was standing four feet away at the time. I turned off the power and smothered the bulb with a towel." LINK


"I heard a sizzling sound like bacon, looked in the direction of the sound and watch the CFL burst into flame with flames licking up onto the ceiling of my house." LINK


"I've had two burn through their base, leaving a hole large enough to stick my little finger in, and scorching the fixture. They are a fire hazard." LINK


"I've had TWO catch fire. I don't trust them. Plus they look silly." LINK


"I've had two CFLs explode on me. One in our bedroom overhead light.... I took a long time cleaning the bedspread and carpeting, because of fears of the mercury residue. Had another one explode in the family room." LINK


How was that bedspread cleaned? Was the person aware it must not be put in a washing machine, according to EPA, "because mercury may contaminate the machine and/or pollute sewage"? Was that person aware EPA also says never to use a vacuum cleaner to clean up a broken CFL on a carpet? Vacuuming will disperse mercury into the air and contaminate the vacuum cleaner, which for all practical purposes is impossible to decontaminate. LINK


In recognition of the problems of fires and exploding CFLs, Armorlite is marketing a product with a package labeled "A Safer CFL." It is a CFL inside what looks like the shell of an incandescent bulb made with some special coating. Notice that is says a "safer CFL" -- not that it is "safe," just "safer." In other words, less dangerous. The package states: "We do not make any claims or provisions that mercury or glass cannot escape coating."


Armorlite claims a lifetime of 10,000 hours, or nine years, based on 3 hours of use per day, but the warranty is for only two years. So much for all the B.S. about how CFLs last so many thousands of hours longer than incandescents.


If the bulb fails in two years, you can get a replacement from the company. The package states: "This replacement is the sole remedy available and LIABILITY FOR INCIDENTAL OR CONSEQENTIAL DAMAGES IS HEREBY EXCLUDED," except for some states which do not allow such exclusion. So if your house burns down, all you are likely to get is a new bulb. And to get it you have to have saved your proof of purchase and your register receipt for two years and mail them together with the broken bulb to the company's Florida address. The warranty explicitly states: "Do not return to the store."


Of course, as I pointed out previously, state and federal environmental laws have effectively eliminated the mail-back programs of CFL manufacturers. Researchers found the only legally acceptable shipping container is "a double box with a zip closure foil-plastic laminate bag between the cardboard layers" if CFLs are to be shipped by U.S. Postal Service or common carrier. To ignore this requirement would subject violators to the penalties of the law, which would surely exceed the value of a replacement bulb. The cost of the acceptable container and the postage/shipping charge must also be paid by the consumer returning the product. The result is that probably nobody is ever going to return a broken CFL to Armorlite. It's not worth it. And I would wager that many disappointed customers will not consider it worth their time and gas to deliver a failed bulb to a recycling collection point either. Even if the government inspected everyone's trash -- think of the cost of that! -- to prevent people from "smuggling" CFLs into their discards, I suspect we would see an increase of CFLs in other people's trash or strewn along roads.

cont...
American Thinker- Print Article

 

[LoneLaugher]

CFL Reveal I assume. It was the only 3 way bulb available at my grocer. And I wasn't gonna make a special trip somewhere else for one bulb.

Excuse me, but I need to launch that hanging curveball: incandescent 3-way bulbs are still available!

And, of course, being a GE "Reveal" means double the price of a normal bulb! (It also means it uses more power to make less light.)

Excuse me but it's what was available to purchase in the store I was shopping at. Least you have me "burn" "oil" & "gas" to go purchase elsewhere.

Fuck almighty. Some of you fools would spend 5 bucks in oil to drive somewhere else to save 2 dollars. And ya call me stupid lol

Thread not going how you imagined, huh?

Do us a favor, snap a pic of your receipt so we can see the item details.

Thanks.

 

[zeke]

Why??? WTF was wrong with traditional bulbs? What government entity thought this was a smart idea? Did they include subsidies for the poor to be able to afford these bulbs?

CFL or LED?

CFL Reveal I assume. It was the only 3 way bulb available at my grocer. And I wasn't gonna make a special trip somewhere else for one bulb.

You bought a much more expensive bulb ( a three way) at an expensive place to buy bulbs (grocery store).

But it's all Obama's fault you paid 7 bucks for a bulb.

I think this one's on you.