I hear many complain of the "duopoly"

[Votto]

Many here are convinced that the Swamp is a duopoly, but I disagree.


What we have here is a Swamp run by the DNC with a token opposition party that never really offers much opposition. With opposition like McConnell and Romney etc., for example, at best you can say the opposition party is all just a bunch of sell outs.

What you have is a system where one party rules the roost, making you think you have other choices, when really you do not.

But at the end of the day, who cares? Either way, the system is broken as only about 10% of Americans think the US Federal Congress is doing a good job, and this low percentage has lasted for about 3 decades now no matter who gets voted into office. and with no end in sight. Poll after poll shows Americans think the country is on the wrong road, no matter your political affiliation. It's not hard to understand, even though it is often hard to put your finger on as to why.

Democracy is dead as the world economy soon will be thanks to them.

 

[Votto]

Sadly, America is right. America, along with the rest of the world, is on a terrible and dark path.

And this is slowly coming to light.

I've posted much on the following

1. G 20 imposing a vaccine passport to "move about freely" all over the world. All done without a shot fired or vote cast.

2. The EU forcing the Netherlands to close 3000 farms, all in an era of mass inflation and world starvation to the tune of a billion people starving to death, according to the UN, that is. This will cause world food prices to go even higher next year. All done without a shot fired or a vote cast.

3. Governments all over the world spending more than at any other time in human history, leading to even more inflation.

4. People in China and Iran so oppressed that they would risk death to protest on mass, over and over and over again, naturally without any hope of escaping the oppression.

Shrug, whether you are a climate cultist or someone of faith looking at future prophesies of gloom and doom, both can see the end times are here.

The world does not have much longer.

 

[Votto]

We even see Elon Musk, of all people, promoting the digitalizing of the brain.

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/30/tech/elon-musk-neuralink-show-and-tell-scn/index.html

Will the government one day know all out thoughts and control all of our behavior?

With Joe Biden and the democrats forcing rail workers back to work after their little edicts, they better hurry.

 

[westwall]

Many here are convinced that the Swamp is a duopoly, but I disagree.


What we have here is a Swamp run by the DNC with a token opposition party that never really offers much opposition. With opposition like McConnell and Romney etc., for example, at best you can say the opposition party is all just a bunch of sell outs.

What you have is a system where one party rules the roost, making you think you have other choices, when really you do not.

But at the end of the day, who cares? Either way, the system is broken as only about 10% of Americans think the US Federal Congress is doing a good job, and this low percentage has lasted for about 3 decades now no matter who gets voted into office. and with no end in sight. Poll after poll shows Americans think the country is on the wrong road, no matter your political affiliation. It's not hard to understand, even though it is often hard to put your finger on as to why.

Democracy is dead as the world economy soon will be thanks to them.

Correct, we have a MONOPOLY, made up of a Political Class, Party affiliation is unimportant to them, all they care about is power.

They are waging war on the middle class right now, and their goal is to destroy the middle class completely.

 

[Dogmaphobe]

Correct, we have a MONOPOLY, made up of a Political Class, Party affiliation is unimportant to them, all they care about is power.

They are waging war on the middle class right now, and their goal is to destroy the middle class completely.

Yep.

The very first thing they did using covid as an excuse was to cripple small businesses.

 

[Votto]

Yep.

The very first thing they did using covid as an excuse was to cripple small businesses.

They have all sorts of tools to use. The most prominent currently is the Climate Cult and the Pandemic to strip everyone of their rights.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

Poll after poll shows Americans think the country is on the wrong road, no matter your political affiliation. It's not hard to understand, even though it is often hard to put your finger on as to why.

The problem is the Three-part Separation Theory is erroneous; the checks and balances do not work as expected. The deployment of the Three-part Separation Theory only prevents any one person from ascending to a dictatorship. it does nothing to control the partisan contest to populate the three parts with politically aligned personnel. Everybody thinks that if their preferred party has control of all three parts then everything will be good. Conversely, they believe that if the other party has control then everything will be bad.

The solution is a more sophisticated separation of government, but nobody wants to put any effort into "building" it. Everybody thinks that the politicians are the only ones authorized to fix the government.

The imperfect constitution causes the partisan chaos that then trickles down causing the social disorderliness.

 

[westwall]

The problem is the Three-part Separation Theory is erroneous; the checks and balances do not work as expected. The deployment of the Three-part Separation Theory only prevents any one person from ascending to a dictatorship. it does nothing to control the partisan contest to populate the three parts with politically aligned personnel. Everybody thinks that if their preferred party has control of all three parts then everything will be good. Conversely, they believe that if the other party has control then everything will be bad.

The solution is a more sophisticated separation of government, but nobody wants to put any effort into "building" it. Everybody thinks that the politicians are the only ones authorized to fix the government.

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The imperfect constitution causes the partisan chaos that then trickles down causing the social disorderliness.

The Constitution was created so that the political process was always adversarial!

That WAS the intent. The Founders never wanted the various factions working together.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

The Constitution was created so that the political process was always adversarial!

That WAS the intent. The Founders never wanted the various factions working together.

You do not know what you are talking about. You're just rewording shit - hoping it sticks. You make it sound like you, or somebody, knows how to organize a system that factions would be compelled to "work together." If you have that, then you should direct it to the leadership of USMB, or any other social media company, because that is the Holy Grail - genius!

In order to lay a due foundation for that separate and distinct exercise of the different powers of government, which to a certain extent is admitted on all hands to be essential to the preservation of liberty, it is evident that each department should have a will of its own; and consequently should be so constituted that the members of each should have as little agency as possible in the appointment of the members of the others.

 

[Votto]

The problem is the Three-part Separation Theory is erroneous; the checks and balances do not work as expected. The deployment of the Three-part Separation Theory only prevents any one person from ascending to a dictatorship. it does nothing to control the partisan contest to populate the three parts with politically aligned personnel. Everybody thinks that if their preferred party has control of all three parts then everything will be good. Conversely, they believe that if the other party has control then everything will be bad.

The solution is a more sophisticated separation of government, but nobody wants to put any effort into "building" it. Everybody thinks that the politicians are the only ones authorized to fix the government.

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The imperfect constitution causes the partisan chaos that then trickles down causing the social disorderliness.

The issue is power. Power corrupts and the more power the more corruption.

In other words, you need a referee who does not run with the ball. As best as possible, you need people to deal out justice who do not have skin in the game regarding their decisions.

Health care comes to mind. If health care remains in the private sector, then you have the government to run to when you are mistreated and need justice. The Federal government should play referee and not have all the power, which was the original intent with states to run their own affairs.

For example, once government runs health care and mistreats you, you become just another statistic like we see in the VA time and time again, with virtually no one to run to for help. All that happens is what happened during the Obama reign of terror. Obama just said, "Sorry" to all the dead and mistreated veterans, and then fired some idiot bureaucrat who had nothing to really do with the VA scandal in Arizona.

Then you sweep it all under the rug, and pretend it is all fixed.

But those wronged got no compensation, and the story almost never saw the light of day. In fact, I wonder how much abuse in the VA never sees the light of day. Does the press want to cover it?

LOL.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

The issue is power. Power corrupts and the more power the more corruption.

In other words, you need a referee who does not run with the ball. As best as possible, you need people to deal out justice who do not have skin in the game regarding their decisions.

Health care comes to mind. If health care remains in the private sector, then you have the government to run to when you are mistreated and need justice. The Federal government should play referee and not have all the power, which was the original intent with states to run their own affairs.

For example, once government runs health care and mistreats you, you become just another statistic like we see in the VA time and time again, with virtually no one to run to for help. All that happens is what happened during the Obama reign of terror. Obama just said, "Sorry" to all the dead and mistreated veterans, and then fired some idiot bureaucrat who had nothing to really do with the VA scandal in Arizona.

Then you sweep it all under the rug, and pretend it is all fixed.

I explained the problem. You are just going off on stupid tangents, because you are not smart enough to advance a better government separation.

 

[dblack]

Many here are convinced that the Swamp is a duopoly, but I disagree.


What we have here is a Swamp run by the DNC with a token opposition party that never really offers much opposition. With opposition like McConnell and Romney etc., for example, at best you can say the opposition party is all just a bunch of sell outs.

What you have is a system where one party rules the roost, making you think you have other choices, when really you do not.

But at the end of the day, who cares? Either way, the system is broken as only about 10% of Americans think the US Federal Congress is doing a good job, and this low percentage has lasted for about 3 decades now no matter who gets voted into office. and with no end in sight. Poll after poll shows Americans think the country is on the wrong road, no matter your political affiliation. It's not hard to understand, even though it is often hard to put your finger on as to why.

Democracy is dead as the world economy soon will be thanks to them.

And we'll just keep voting for them. plodding to our doom.

 

[Votto]

I explained the problem. You are just going off on stupid tangents, because you are not smart enough to advance a better government separation.

You did not offer any solution other than a "complicated" system you gave no thought to.

WTH?

 

[Votto]

And we'll just keep voting for them. plodding to our doom.

People are sheep.

Bahh!

 

[g5000]

Many here are convinced that the Swamp is a duopoly, but I disagree.


What we have here is a Swamp run by the DNC with a token opposition party that never really offers much opposition. With opposition like McConnell and Romney etc., for example, at best you can say the opposition party is all just a bunch of sell outs.

What you have is a system where one party rules the roost, making you think you have other choices, when really you do not.

But at the end of the day, who cares? Either way, the system is broken as only about 10% of Americans think the US Federal Congress is doing a good job, and this low percentage has lasted for about 3 decades now no matter who gets voted into office. and with no end in sight. Poll after poll shows Americans think the country is on the wrong road, no matter your political affiliation. It's not hard to understand, even though it is often hard to put your finger on as to why.

Democracy is dead as the world economy soon will be thanks to them.

I am very sadly inclined to agree with you. I have been saying for a long time the Republicans sold us down the river to the Democrats a long time ago.

This is because the organization formerly known as the Republican party is morally, spiritually, psychologically, and intellectually bankrupt. They have no solutions to the real problems facing America.

Universal health care, for example. Health care costs have been skyrocketing for the past 50 years, and in all that time the Democrats have telegraphed very loudly what they would do to solve the problem when they get the chance. The ultimate goal is what used to be called "socialized medicine". But since "socialized" has a lot of stigma attached, it is now called Universal Health Care.

Meanwhile, the GOP has come up with NOTHING.

So the Republicans have allowed the Democrats to incrementally get us toward UHC, putting up token resistance as theater for the rubes.

This was all revealed by their hoax to "repeal and replace" Obamacare. Most of the rubes have STILL not caught on that was a hoax.

It won't be long now before the GOP will come out in favor of UHC, and every last rube will turn on a dime, tear down the anti-UHC posters on the wall, and put up pro-UHC posters.

"We have always been at war with Eastasia in favor of UHC."

Gun control? Again, the GOP offers NOTHING in the way of a solution to the horrific number of gun deaths our country suffers every day, every week, every month, every year. All the Right does is offer resistance to any attempts by the Democrats to get this shit under control.

And so forth, and so on.

Here's the thing:

When voters are offered a choice between one side's solution and NOTHING from the other side, sooner or later they will vote for the only solution on the table.

The rubes on the Right are too dumb to catch on to the fact their side has sold them out. Their side has no ideas.

"We don't need better ideas! We just need to whine a lot!"
.

 

[$ecular#eckler]

You did not offer any solution other than a "complicated" system you gave no thought to.

A Better Subdivisioning of the Three-part Model will Provide Better Checks & Balances

http://www.us4cc.info

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[DGS49]

I am very sadly inclined to agree with you. I have been saying for a long time the Republicans sold us down the river to the Democrats a long time ago.

This is because the organization formerly known as the Republican party is morally, spiritually, psychologically, and intellectually bankrupt. They have no solutions to the real problems facing America.

Universal health care, for example. Health care costs have been skyrocketing for the past 50 years, and in all that time the Democrats have telegraphed very loudly what they would do to solve the problem when they get the chance. The ultimate goal is what used to be called "socialized medicine". But since "socialized" has a lot of stigma attached, it is now called Universal Health Care.

Meanwhile, the GOP has come up with NOTHING.

So the Republicans have allowed the Democrats to incrementally get us toward UHC, putting up token resistance as theater for the rubes.

This was all revealed by their hoax to "repeal and replace" Obamacare. Most of the rubes have STILL not caught on that was a hoax.

It won't be long now before the GOP will come out in favor of UHC, and every last rube will turn on a dime, tear down the anti-UHC posters on the wall, and put up pro-UHC posters.

"We have always been at war with Eastasia in favor of UHC."

Gun control? Again, the GOP offers NOTHING in the way of a solution to the horrific number of gun deaths our country suffers every day, every week, every month, every year. All the Right does is offer resistance to any attempts by the Democrats to get this shit under control.

And so forth, and so on.

Here's the thing:

When voters are offered a choice between one side's solution and NOTHING from the other side, sooner or later they will vote for the only solution on the table.

The rubes on the Right are too dumb to catch on to the fact their side has sold them out. Their side has no ideas.

"We don't need better ideas! We just need to whine a lot!"
.

Come back after you have read the Constitution. In particular Article I, Section 8, and the Tenth Amendment.

Then give us your assessment of the Republicans in congress.

 

[TNHarley]

I am very sadly inclined to agree with you. I have been saying for a long time the Republicans sold us down the river to the Democrats a long time ago.

This is because the organization formerly known as the Republican party is morally, spiritually, psychologically, and intellectually bankrupt. They have no solutions to the real problems facing America.

Universal health care, for example. Health care costs have been skyrocketing for the past 50 years, and in all that time the Democrats have telegraphed very loudly what they would do to solve the problem when they get the chance. The ultimate goal is what used to be called "socialized medicine". But since "socialized" has a lot of stigma attached, it is now called Universal Health Care.

Meanwhile, the GOP has come up with NOTHING.

So the Republicans have allowed the Democrats to incrementally get us toward UHC, putting up token resistance as theater for the rubes.

This was all revealed by their hoax to "repeal and replace" Obamacare. Most of the rubes have STILL not caught on that was a hoax.

It won't be long now before the GOP will come out in favor of UHC, and every last rube will turn on a dime, tear down the anti-UHC posters on the wall, and put up pro-UHC posters.

"We have always been at war with Eastasia in favor of UHC."

Gun control? Again, the GOP offers NOTHING in the way of a solution to the horrific number of gun deaths our country suffers every day, every week, every month, every year. All the Right does is offer resistance to any attempts by the Democrats to get this shit under control.

And so forth, and so on.

Here's the thing:

When voters are offered a choice between one side's solution and NOTHING from the other side, sooner or later they will vote for the only solution on the table.

The rubes on the Right are too dumb to catch on to the fact their side has sold them out. Their side has no ideas.

"We don't need better ideas! We just need to whine a lot!"
.

Your premise is false. You act as if the failed and corrupt govt can fix healthcare and gun crime.
Those are no more solutions than not doing anything about guns and screaming "repeal and replace" at the top of their lungs.

 

[Votto]

I am very sadly inclined to agree with you. I have been saying for a long time the Republicans sold us down the river to the Democrats a long time ago.

This is because the organization formerly known as the Republican party is morally, spiritually, psychologically, and intellectually bankrupt. They have no solutions to the real problems facing America.

Universal health care, for example. Health care costs have been skyrocketing for the past 50 years, and in all that time the Democrats have telegraphed very loudly what they would do to solve the problem when they get the chance. The ultimate goal is what used to be called "socialized medicine". But since "socialized" has a lot of stigma attached, it is now called Universal Health Care.

Meanwhile, the GOP has come up with NOTHING.

So the Republicans have allowed the Democrats to incrementally get us toward UHC, putting up token resistance as theater for the rubes.

This was all revealed by their hoax to "repeal and replace" Obamacare. Most of the rubes have STILL not caught on that was a hoax.

It won't be long now before the GOP will come out in favor of UHC, and every last rube will turn on a dime, tear down the ant-UHC posters on the wall, and put up pro-UHC posters.

"We have always been at war with eastasia in favor of UHC."

Gun control? Again, the GOP offers NOTHING in the way of a solution to the horrific number of gun deaths our country suffers every day, every week, every month, every year. All the Right does is offer resistance to any attempts by the Democrats to get this shit under control.

And so forth, and so on.

Here's the thing:

When voters are offered a choice between one side's solution and NOTHING from the other side, sooner or later they will vote for the only solution on the table.

The rubes on the Right are too dumb to catch on to the fact their side has sold them out. Their side has no ideas.

"We don't need better ideas! We just need to whine a lot!"
.

Once upon a time, the GOP voted to repeal and replace Obamacare with John McCain leading the way. In fact, I remember a robust condemnation from John McCain on the evils of Obamacare, that has long since been taken down by the Left for obvious reasons. Much of what he complained about we see come to fruition today . After all, the same voices that sold us Obamcare with the lies that accompanied it are the same voices today that want to "fix" it all over again with the government in complete control. However, John knew that Obama would veto the legislation to repeal and replace Obamacare, which he promptly, did.

Then voters in mass voted out the DNC in spectacular fashion in 2010, a true red wave as the GOP ran on securing the border and repealing and replacing Obamcare. However, once in power the GOP and John McCan't refuse to once again vote to repeal and replace Obamcare, because he knew Trump was their to sign it into legislation. Oh, and they did not fix the border in the two years the GOP were in power either. No, they waited will the DNC took over saying, "See, we told you they would not do what they promised"

That is the type of crap conservatives have been dealing with for years.

As for solutions, there is not one perfect solution for health care, not like the Left would lead us to believe, but I prefer having it in the private sector where I feel some hope of running to government once I'm screwed over to maybe get compensated. After all, had a CEO promised me in writing that my new health care policy would be cheaper and I could keep my same plan and doctor, and then find it was all a lie, he would go to jail. However, when Obama did it, he got re-elected and is revered by many to this day.

 

[g5000]

The Constitution was created so that the political process was always adversarial!

That WAS the intent. The Founders never wanted the various factions working together.

Wrong.

Read Federalist No. 51.