Ice on Great Lakes doubles in one week!!

[skookerasbil]

Oy.....more bad news for the AGW k00ks.

https://weather.com/news/news/2019-01-24-great-lakes-ice-doubles-late-January

They are always talking about everywhere it isn't ball busting cold!

Warming in the arctic leads to a weak polar jet stream. A weak polar jet stream wanders more than a strong one, allowing it to dip further (and more often) south than normal. This brings colder air to places it normally wouldn't be.

So yes, global warming is bringing arctic temps and more ice to the great lakes.

Educate yourself Scooter.

Polar Vortex: How the Jet Stream and Climate Change Bring on Cold Snaps

Only matters what people care about s0n, not the spin from the climate obsessed. People see the lakes frozen solid....not going to get angst about what a few scientists are saying. Not debatable....and how do we know? No concern for climate action in congress....none....for many, many years. People more concerned with a billion other things.....not climate change.

When February 1st comes some year and people are water skiing in bikinis on Lake Superior, maybe people will care. Doy

 

[Crepitus]

Ok,

Oy.....more bad news for the AGW k00ks.

https://weather.com/news/news/2019-01-24-great-lakes-ice-doubles-late-January

They are always talking about everywhere it isn't ball busting cold!

Warming in the arctic leads to a weak polar jet stream. A weak polar jet stream wanders more than a strong one, allowing it to dip further (and more often) south than normal. This brings colder air to places it normally wouldn't be.

So yes, global warming is bringing arctic temps and more ice to the great lakes.

Educate yourself Scooter.

Polar Vortex: How the Jet Stream and Climate Change Bring on Cold Snaps

Warming causes cold...how stupid do you have to be to believe any line of "reasoning" that leads to that conclusion...no matter how pseudoscientific it sounds.....If that polar jet stream is coming from over the arctic...and the arctic is warming...why is it so f'ing cold? You just claimed that the arctic is warming...but the air coming down from the arctic isn't warm...it is cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.

Serious question. Not an insult. Please don't take this the wrong way:

Are you functionally retarded?

 

[Crepitus]

Oy.....more bad news for the AGW k00ks.

https://weather.com/news/news/2019-01-24-great-lakes-ice-doubles-late-January

They are always talking about everywhere it isn't ball busting cold!

Warming in the arctic leads to a weak polar jet stream. A weak polar jet stream wanders more than a strong one, allowing it to dip further (and more often) south than normal. This brings colder air to places it normally wouldn't be.

So yes, global warming is bringing arctic temps and more ice to the great lakes.

Educate yourself Scooter.

Polar Vortex: How the Jet Stream and Climate Change Bring on Cold Snaps

Only matters what people care about s0n, not the spin from the climate obsessed. People see the lakes frozen solid....not going to get angst about what a few scientists are saying. Not debatable....and how do we know? No concern for climate action in congress....none....for many, many years. People more concerned with a billion other things.....not climate change.

When February 1st comes some year and people are water skiing in bikinis on Lake Superior, maybe people will care. Doy

Facts matter you ignorant bastard. Maybe someday you will learn some.

But I doubt it.

 

[skookerasbil]

Oy.....more bad news for the AGW k00ks.

https://weather.com/news/news/2019-01-24-great-lakes-ice-doubles-late-January

They are always talking about everywhere it isn't ball busting cold!

Warming in the arctic leads to a weak polar jet stream. A weak polar jet stream wanders more than a strong one, allowing it to dip further (and more often) south than normal. This brings colder air to places it normally wouldn't be.

So yes, global warming is bringing arctic temps and more ice to the great lakes.

Educate yourself Scooter.

Polar Vortex: How the Jet Stream and Climate Change Bring on Cold Snaps

Only matters what people care about s0n, not the spin from the climate obsessed. People see the lakes frozen solid....not going to get angst about what a few scientists are saying. Not debatable....and how do we know? No concern for climate action in congress....none....for many, many years. People more concerned with a billion other things.....not climate change.

When February 1st comes some year and people are water skiing in bikinis on Lake Superior, maybe people will care. Doy

Facts matter you ignorant bastard. Maybe someday you will learn some.

But I doubt it.

Actually, they dont. You dont get it.

It is indeed a fact that a marked economic downturn.....or worse....is imminent. Does that mean most will prepare accordingly? Nope. That's a fact.

Reality is 95% perception s0n.....when people see the Great Lakes frozen over there is 100% certainty they wont think the world is going to end in 12 years.....or 50 years. Might not concur with the scientific perspective but tough shit.....that's the way it is.

If NYC is stuck in a 3 week straight period of 100+ degree temps, your facts might matter. But not a moment sooner!



Only perceptions matter.....which we know because nobody has lifted a finger on climate change action. It's a joke.

 

[Billy_Bob]

Oy.....more bad news for the AGW k00ks.

https://weather.com/news/news/2019-01-24-great-lakes-ice-doubles-late-January

They are always talking about everywhere it isn't ball busting cold!

Warming in the arctic leads to a weak polar jet stream. A weak polar jet stream wanders more than a strong one, allowing it to dip further (and more often) south than normal. This brings colder air to places it normally wouldn't be.

So yes, global warming is bringing arctic temps and more ice to the great lakes.

Educate yourself Scooter.

Polar Vortex: How the Jet Stream and Climate Change Bring on Cold Snaps

Only matters what people care about s0n, not the spin from the climate obsessed. People see the lakes frozen solid....not going to get angst about what a few scientists are saying. Not debatable....and how do we know? No concern for climate action in congress....none....for many, many years. People more concerned with a billion other things.....not climate change.

When February 1st comes some year and people are water skiing in bikinis on Lake Superior, maybe people will care. Doy

Facts matter you ignorant bastard. Maybe someday you will learn some.

But I doubt it.

Actually, they dont. You dont get it.

It is indeed a fact that a marked economic downturn.....or worse....is imminent. Does that mean most will prepare accordingly? Nope. That's a fact.

Reality is 95% perception s0n.....when people see the Great Lakes frozen over there is 100% certainty they wont think the world is going to end in 12 years.....or 50 years. Might not concur with the scientific perspective but tough shit.....that's the way it is.

If NYC is stuck in a 3 week straight period of 100+ degree temps, your facts might matter. But not a moment sooner!



Only perceptions matter.....which we know because nobody has lifted a finger on climate change action. It's a joke.

Just obtained my first update in three weeks from NOAA... When their sites are updated people are going to be very surprised to see how much ice has increased in three weeks... its massive

 

[Crick]

We might if you provided a link. Do you know how?

 

[Crick]

Great Lakes Ice Coverage | GLISA

MRCC Living With Weather - Great Lakes Weather

Water Loss from the Great Lakes

Climate Impacts in the Midwest | Climate Change Impacts | US EPA

 

[Crick]

 

[SSDD]

Ok,

Oy.....more bad news for the AGW k00ks.

https://weather.com/news/news/2019-01-24-great-lakes-ice-doubles-late-January

They are always talking about everywhere it isn't ball busting cold!

Warming in the arctic leads to a weak polar jet stream. A weak polar jet stream wanders more than a strong one, allowing it to dip further (and more often) south than normal. This brings colder air to places it normally wouldn't be.

So yes, global warming is bringing arctic temps and more ice to the great lakes.

Educate yourself Scooter.

Polar Vortex: How the Jet Stream and Climate Change Bring on Cold Snaps

Warming causes cold...how stupid do you have to be to believe any line of "reasoning" that leads to that conclusion...no matter how pseudoscientific it sounds.....If that polar jet stream is coming from over the arctic...and the arctic is warming...why is it so f'ing cold? You just claimed that the arctic is warming...but the air coming down from the arctic isn't warm...it is cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.

Serious question. Not an insult. Please don't take this the wrong way:

Are you functionally retarded?

No answer...how completely unsurprising is that?

The idea that warming in the arctic causes these arctic blasts is not a widely accepted theory except among alarmists, and flies in the face of observed evidence...


'Polar Vortex' NOT Proof of Global Warming | PSI Intl

Media outlets usually turn to Cohen and Francis during the winter months when brutal cold and snowfall can make it hard to convince people the earth is warming. Both scientists regularly argue human greenhouse gas emissions are driving more frequent, bone-chilling arctic blasts.

This is not a widely accepted theory. In fact, there’s lots of evidence to suggest it’s not correct, including a 2018 study that found “[c]old waves like this have decreased in intensity and frequency over the last century.”

“Such claims make no sense and are inconsistent with observations and the best science,” University of Washington climatologist Cliff Mass told The Daily Caller News Foundation in 2018 when news outlets reported record cold temperatures were a product of warming.

“The frequency of cold waves have decreased during the past fifty years, not increased. That alone shows that such claims are baseless,” Mass said.

The U.S. government’s 2017 National Climate Assessment special report said “it is not possible to draw conclusions regarding the direction of the relationship between arctic warming and midlatitude circulation based on empirical correlation and covariance analyses alone.”

The 2017 report added “confidence is low regarding whether or by what mechanisms observed arctic warming may have influenced midlatitude circulation and weather patterns over the continental United States.”

Other climate scientists have also challenged Francis’s and Cohen’s claim that cold snaps are becoming more frequent. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientist Amy Butler noted breakdowns in the polar vortex, which happen every winter, “does not seem to be increasing in frequency nor is there consensus it will by 2100.”

Cohen fired back over Twitter, saying he stood by the results of his work. Butler didn’t dispute the findings of his 2017 study, but did show there seems to be no evidence of a long-term weakening of the polar vortex.

 

[Crepitus]

Ok,

Oy.....more bad news for the AGW k00ks.

https://weather.com/news/news/2019-01-24-great-lakes-ice-doubles-late-January

They are always talking about everywhere it isn't ball busting cold!

Warming in the arctic leads to a weak polar jet stream. A weak polar jet stream wanders more than a strong one, allowing it to dip further (and more often) south than normal. This brings colder air to places it normally wouldn't be.

So yes, global warming is bringing arctic temps and more ice to the great lakes.

Educate yourself Scooter.

Polar Vortex: How the Jet Stream and Climate Change Bring on Cold Snaps

Warming causes cold...how stupid do you have to be to believe any line of "reasoning" that leads to that conclusion...no matter how pseudoscientific it sounds.....If that polar jet stream is coming from over the arctic...and the arctic is warming...why is it so f'ing cold? You just claimed that the arctic is warming...but the air coming down from the arctic isn't warm...it is cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.

Serious question. Not an insult. Please don't take this the wrong way:

Are you functionally retarded?

No answer...how completely unsurprising is that?

The idea that warming in the arctic causes these arctic blasts is not a widely accepted theory except among alarmists, and flies in the face of observed evidence...


'Polar Vortex' NOT Proof of Global Warming | PSI Intl

Media outlets usually turn to Cohen and Francis during the winter months when brutal cold and snowfall can make it hard to convince people the earth is warming. Both scientists regularly argue human greenhouse gas emissions are driving more frequent, bone-chilling arctic blasts.

This is not a widely accepted theory. In fact, there’s lots of evidence to suggest it’s not correct, including a 2018 study that found “[c]old waves like this have decreased in intensity and frequency over the last century.”

“Such claims make no sense and are inconsistent with observations and the best science,” University of Washington climatologist Cliff Mass told The Daily Caller News Foundation in 2018 when news outlets reported record cold temperatures were a product of warming.

“The frequency of cold waves have decreased during the past fifty years, not increased. That alone shows that such claims are baseless,” Mass said.

The U.S. government’s 2017 National Climate Assessment special report said “it is not possible to draw conclusions regarding the direction of the relationship between arctic warming and midlatitude circulation based on empirical correlation and covariance analyses alone.”

The 2017 report added “confidence is low regarding whether or by what mechanisms observed arctic warming may have influenced midlatitude circulation and weather patterns over the continental United States.”

Other climate scientists have also challenged Francis’s and Cohen’s claim that cold snaps are becoming more frequent. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration scientist Amy Butler noted breakdowns in the polar vortex, which happen every winter, “does not seem to be increasing in frequency nor is there consensus it will by 2100.”

Cohen fired back over Twitter, saying he stood by the results of his work. Butler didn’t dispute the findings of his 2017 study, but did show there seems to be no evidence of a long-term weakening of the polar vortex.

"No answer"?

Kid I explained it already.

 

[Billy_Bob]

This is the polar low that is impacting the US... It is massive and damn cold. there will be a whole lot more ice this next week on the great lakes. Ground temps are at well below zero F as white regions are -25 to -45 deg F..

 

[toobfreak]

Ok,

Oy.....more bad news for the AGW k00ks.

https://weather.com/news/news/2019-01-24-great-lakes-ice-doubles-late-January

They are always talking about everywhere it isn't ball busting cold!

Warming in the arctic leads to a weak polar jet stream. A weak polar jet stream wanders more than a strong one, allowing it to dip further (and more often) south than normal. This brings colder air to places it normally wouldn't be.

So yes, global warming is bringing arctic temps and more ice to the great lakes.

Educate yourself Scooter.

Polar Vortex: How the Jet Stream and Climate Change Bring on Cold Snaps

Warming causes cold...how stupid do you have to be to believe any line of "reasoning" that leads to that conclusion...no matter how pseudoscientific it sounds.....If that polar jet stream is coming from over the arctic...and the arctic is warming...why is it so f'ing cold? You just claimed that the arctic is warming...but the air coming down from the arctic isn't warm...it is cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.

Serious question. Not an insult. Please don't take this the wrong way:
Are you functionally retarded?

No answer...how completely unsurprising is that?

An ANSWER from the Creep? Are you kidding, SSDD? A real, honest to goodness, solid answer? All you'll ever get from that type of typical leftard is haughty disdain (a la HB Lowrie) as if he knows so much more or better than you, followed by elitist derision, until you actually back him into a corner and call his bluff, such as the solution to X (another thread), then he will either run and disappear, pretend he never heard the question, try to change the subject, or try to tell you he already answered it.

Oh wait, he just did it again.

 

[Crepitus]

Ok,

Oy.....more bad news for the AGW k00ks.

https://weather.com/news/news/2019-01-24-great-lakes-ice-doubles-late-January

They are always talking about everywhere it isn't ball busting cold!

Warming in the arctic leads to a weak polar jet stream. A weak polar jet stream wanders more than a strong one, allowing it to dip further (and more often) south than normal. This brings colder air to places it normally wouldn't be.

So yes, global warming is bringing arctic temps and more ice to the great lakes.

Educate yourself Scooter.

Polar Vortex: How the Jet Stream and Climate Change Bring on Cold Snaps

Warming causes cold...how stupid do you have to be to believe any line of "reasoning" that leads to that conclusion...no matter how pseudoscientific it sounds.....If that polar jet stream is coming from over the arctic...and the arctic is warming...why is it so f'ing cold? You just claimed that the arctic is warming...but the air coming down from the arctic isn't warm...it is cold enough to freeze the balls off a brass monkey.

Serious question. Not an insult. Please don't take this the wrong way:
Are you functionally retarded?

No answer...how completely unsurprising is that?

An ANSWER from the Creep? Are you kidding, SSDD? A real, honest to goodness, solid answer? All you'll ever get from that type of typical leftard is haughty disdain (a la HB Lowrie) as if he knows so much more or better than you, followed by elitist derision, until you actually back him into a corner and call his bluff, such as the solution to X (another thread), then he will either run and disappear, pretend he never heard the question, try to change the subject, or try to tell you he already answered it.

Oh wait, he just did it again.

You just quoted the explanation. Maybe you don't know this, but if you click on the quote box it expands so you can read them all.

 

[skookerasbil]

Meanwhile in Turkey......

Twitter

 

[Billy_Bob]

Meanwhile in Turkey......

Twitter

10 meters.... That's a small drift... but very large for that region...

 

[Billy_Bob]

Chicago All-Time Record Low?

"Both the European (ECMWF) and U.S. (GFS) weather forecast models are in agreement that by Wednesday morning temperatures in the Chicago suburbs will be approaching -30 deg. F. The all-time official record low for the Chicago metro area was -27 deg. F (O’Hare) on January 20, 1985, and that 34 year old record could fall as the ECMWF model is forecasting -32 deg. F for Thursday morning while the GFS model is bottoming out at -26 deg. F on Wednesday morning. Of course, these forecasts will change somewhat in the coming days as the cold wave approaches."

Dangerous, Record-Breaking Cold to Invade Midwest, Chicago

"The GFS forecast temperatures for Wednesday morning shows most of the upper Midwest will be well below zero, and temperatures might not get above -20 deg. F even at midday on Wednesday as far south as northern Indiana. Again, the strong northwest winds will be pushing this air southeast, and Thursday morning will also bring record-breaking cold into the Ohio River Valley."

 

[skookerasbil]

Chicago All-Time Record Low?

"Both the European (ECMWF) and U.S. (GFS) weather forecast models are in agreement that by Wednesday morning temperatures in the Chicago suburbs will be approaching -30 deg. F. The all-time official record low for the Chicago metro area was -27 deg. F (O’Hare) on January 20, 1985, and that 34 year old record could fall as the ECMWF model is forecasting -32 deg. F for Thursday morning while the GFS model is bottoming out at -26 deg. F on Wednesday morning. Of course, these forecasts will change somewhat in the coming days as the cold wave approaches."

Dangerous, Record-Breaking Cold to Invade Midwest, Chicago

"The GFS forecast temperatures for Wednesday morning shows most of the upper Midwest will be well below zero, and temperatures might not get above -20 deg. F even at midday on Wednesday as far south as northern Indiana. Again, the strong northwest winds will be pushing this air southeast, and Thursday morning will also bring record-breaking cold into the Ohio River Valley."

Damn stinkin' ice age s0ns!!

 

[SSDD]

"No answer"?

Kid I explained it already.

Actually, you didn't...You provided a not very well accepted hypothesis which is falsified by the observed evidence.

.....and kid? really? I was born in the very early 1950's...my bet is that your parents weren't even thought of when I was born. Typical though...you tend to talk just to hear yourself and it doesn't seem to matter to you whether what you say is thought out or not...or even factual for that matter.

 

[Crick]

Kid, he explained it already

 

[Crick]

Chicago All-Time Record Low?

"Both the European (ECMWF) and U.S. (GFS) weather forecast models are in agreement that by Wednesday morning temperatures in the Chicago suburbs will be approaching -30 deg. F. The all-time official record low for the Chicago metro area was -27 deg. F (O’Hare) on January 20, 1985, and that 34 year old record could fall as the ECMWF model is forecasting -32 deg. F for Thursday morning while the GFS model is bottoming out at -26 deg. F on Wednesday morning. Of course, these forecasts will change somewhat in the coming days as the cold wave approaches."

Dangerous, Record-Breaking Cold to Invade Midwest, Chicago

"The GFS forecast temperatures for Wednesday morning shows most of the upper Midwest will be well below zero, and temperatures might not get above -20 deg. F even at midday on Wednesday as far south as northern Indiana. Again, the strong northwest winds will be pushing this air southeast, and Thursday morning will also bring record-breaking cold into the Ohio River Valley."

Weather Underground says -20. Now who's being an alarmist?