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Translation: the title of this thread should be buried very quickly in case a news bot picks it up and runs with it..
That the Bible was written by God is an exercise of faith, or superstition. It is not a fact. All evidence, rationality, and reason points to the Bible being written by men telling stories or in some cases recording various renditions of history.
Have fun arguing that in front of Sotomayor...and Kennedy..
We actually work for a living to keep up our FABULOUS lifestyle. Justice Kennedy knows the law (unlike you)...he's probably laughing at your suggestion that he would care one way or another about some stupid clerk who is in contempt of court.Not too many LGBT payroll bloggers responding to this one... mmm hmmm...
That the Bible was written by God is an exercise of faith, or superstition. It is not a fact. All evidence, rationality, and reason points to the Bible being written by men telling stories or in some cases recording various renditions of history.
Have fun arguing that in front of Sotomayor...and Kennedy..
If you had presented your arguments in Spring, they might still be laughing.And if you had argued that in SCOTUS last Spring, do you suppose their verdict would be the same on "gay marriage"?Give it up, the cross groveler in KY broke the law she got off easy with jail time
Without realizing it, you just underscored my points in the OP.
That's not what the OP asked. It asked if Kennedy knew ahead of time where this was going with Christians in less than 3 months, would he have voted the way he did in June?It was the Supreme Courts decision that she openly violated
Of course, Kennedy would support contempt charges
There, I made it bigger so you wouldn't "forget" next time.
No, check out Kennedy's vote on Employment Division v. Smith for the answer to your question.
There, I made it bigger so you wouldn't "ignore' it next time.
Here is a couple pictures before I leave this stupid thread:
And you can't do shit about it.
Nor is the 14th Amendment. And what about the 1st amendment rights of everyone else besides Kim Davis? Do they not count?The 1st Amendment of the US Constitution and the 9th that supports it aren't "emotional logical fallacies". And it is my avid belief that had Kennedy known that less than 3 months later the 1st and 9th Amendments were sitting in jail because of his decision, he would walk that back right now in a heartbeat if given the chance..So, if Kennedy had a crystal ball and saw Kim Davis sitting in jail less than 3 months after he released the June Opinion, would he have voted differently?
A legal decision is not dependent on emotional logical fallacies.
Try again.
Nope...it was her abusing the 1st amendment rights of those around her...her employees and those she was elected to serve.It was not her Christianity that landed her in jail.
It was her 1st amendment right to exercise her Christianity that landed her in jail.
Why do you automatically default to imagining sex between gay couples when discussion on getting a legal marriage license comes up? Do you also default to imagining sex between straight couples when they get legally married? When watching weddings, are you secretly undressing the bride and groom in your mind?why do you think that an arrest for disobeying a court order would change the 14th amendment?
Here's a better question, why do you think non-existent "guarantees to just some deviant sex behaviors for marriage" in the 14th out-trump the 1st Amendment? (Hint: look to the 9th Amendment for who is going to win this little snafu..)
It doesn't....but if the government starts giving out marriage licenses to afford government protections for inheritance, divorce, etc.....they better be doing it for all law abiding, tax paying citizens.It was not her Christianity that landed her in jail.
It was her 1st amendment right to exercise her Christianity that landed her in jail.
No it was her refusal to do her job that did that. There is nothing in the 1st that gives her the right to defy a Court order to do the job she was elected to do. Your right to practice your religion stops when it starts to infringe on other citizens rights
Where in the Constitution does it say government has the right to make marriage licenses?
Right...and 14th doesn't allow states to discriminate against SOME law-abiding, tax-paying citizens. in issuing said licenses.It was not her Christianity that landed her in jail.
It was her 1st amendment right to exercise her Christianity that landed her in jail.
No it was her refusal to do her job that did that. There is nothing in the 1st that gives her the right to defy a Court order to do the job she was elected to do. Your right to practice your religion stops when it starts to infringe on other citizens rights
Where in the Constitution does it say government has the right to make marriage licenses?
Read the 10th amendment. As its the States issuing such licenses.
Yep...ever heard of the Supremacy Clause?It was not her Christianity that landed her in jail.
It was her 1st amendment right to exercise her Christianity that landed her in jail.
No it was her refusal to do her job that did that. There is nothing in the 1st that gives her the right to defy a Court order to do the job she was elected to do. Your right to practice your religion stops when it starts to infringe on other citizens rights
Where in the Constitution does it say government has the right to make marriage licenses?
Read the 10th amendment. As its the States issuing such licenses.
States yes Feds no.
Supreme Court ruling just over ruled the States rights.
Wait...you think sodomy is illegal?I have nothing against same sex marriage. But I do have concern that proponents of SSM believe it legalizes sodomy and homosexual acts. As far as I know, those are still criminal offenses. Can any one cite the law that legalizes that behavior?
On a sidenote, does anyone know what you get when you cross a rooster with a telephone pole?
How you plan on enforcing this so-called law making it illegal?
I have nothing against same sex marriage. But I do have concern that proponents of SSM believe it legalizes sodomy and homosexual acts. As far as I know, those are still criminal offenses. Can any one cite the law that legalizes that behavior?
On a sidenote, does anyone know what you get when you cross a rooster with a telephone pole?
On a sidenote, does anyone know what you get when you cross a rooster with a telephone pole?
Yep...ever heard of the Supremacy Clause?It was her 1st amendment right to exercise her Christianity that landed her in jail.
No it was her refusal to do her job that did that. There is nothing in the 1st that gives her the right to defy a Court order to do the job she was elected to do. Your right to practice your religion stops when it starts to infringe on other citizens rights
Where in the Constitution does it say government has the right to make marriage licenses?
Read the 10th amendment. As its the States issuing such licenses.
States yes Feds no.
Supreme Court ruling just over ruled the States rights.
The government is giving out a LEGAL marriage license. Why would it not be equal under the law?No it was her refusal to do her job that did that. There is nothing in the 1st that gives her the right to defy a Court order to do the job she was elected to do. Your right to practice your religion stops when it starts to infringe on other citizens rights
Where in the Constitution does it say government has the right to make marriage licenses?
Read the 10th amendment. As its the States issuing such licenses.
States yes Feds no.
Supreme Court ruling just over ruled the States rights.
Now read the 14th amendment. Specifically the part about due process and equal protection.
Under laws yes.
Not marriage.
They were not equal under the laws.
The laws should have changed to help them become equal under the laws, not the Supreme Court that forced States to marry them.
An example would be the inheritance laws where same sex couples would have the same rights under those laws.
The government is giving out a LEGAL marriage license. Why would it not be equal under the law?Where in the Constitution does it say government has the right to make marriage licenses?
Read the 10th amendment. As its the States issuing such licenses.
States yes Feds no.
Supreme Court ruling just over ruled the States rights.
Now read the 14th amendment. Specifically the part about due process and equal protection.
Under laws yes.
Not marriage.
They were not equal under the laws.
The laws should have changed to help them become equal under the laws, not the Supreme Court that forced States to marry them.
An example would be the inheritance laws where same sex couples would have the same rights under those laws.
