If mail-in voting becomes the new norm and America is never run by a GOP president again, is it a good outcome or a bad one?

shockedcanadian

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I know many American conservatives dislike the current crop of GOP anyways, many of them called RINO's etc whether on here or other forums/twitter. I've heard some suggest that the GOP don't even want to lead, they want to be led, submissively happy to be in the "spoiler role", content to yell and scream "this and that needs to be done", feigning being men of action, until they actually have the power to do it.

So, ultimately, will it be a good outcome for America and the world that libertarianism/conservatism is wiped off the face of the Western world, or is it problematic? There is no way that global socialists and people far more powerful than any single party or candidate is going to let such an easy opportunity to manipulate the outcome of the U.S election, all in the shadows; to pass them by. Look how overt they were in their resistance to Trump in 2016, imagine this could all be done under the hood?

There is little doubt that many want America to be run by Brussels and Beijing.
 
I would like all those who want liberty wiped off the face of the earth to go somewhere and live that life for just 6 months.

If they like it....6 more months. Repeat.
 
I know many American conservatives dislike the current crop of GOP anyways, many of them called RINO's etc whether on here or other forums/twitter. I've heard some suggest that the GOP don't even want to lead, they want to be led, submissively happy to be in the "spoiler role", content to yell and scream "this and that needs to be done", feigning being men of action, until they actually have the power to do it.

So, ultimately, will it be a good outcome for America and the world that libertarianism/conservatism is wiped off the face of the Western world, or is it problematic? There is no way that global socialists and people far more powerful than any single party or candidate is going to let such an easy opportunity to manipulate the outcome of the U.S election, all in the shadows; to pass them by. Look how overt they were in their resistance to Trump in 2016, imagine this could all be done under the hood?

There is little doubt that many want America to be run by Brussels and Beijing.
Shouldn’t you post this crap in a Canadian forum. There are those of us who do not fear for the future or wish to disenfranchise those that wish to vote by mail. This country does not need a foreigner telling us what to do or projecting their insecurities on us. Save your “global socialist” excrement for Canada.
 
mail in voting has to have strict rules and regulations or it wont work......you have to request a ballet....if they just send them out to every address and everyone gets one, there may be lots of problems like people not registered voting or non citizens voting.... ..
 
I know many American conservatives dislike the current crop of GOP anyways, many of them called RINO's etc whether on here or other forums/twitter. I've heard some suggest that the GOP don't even want to lead, they want to be led, submissively happy to be in the "spoiler role", content to yell and scream "this and that needs to be done", feigning being men of action, until they actually have the power to do it.

So, ultimately, will it be a good outcome for America and the world that libertarianism/conservatism is wiped off the face of the Western world, or is it problematic? There is no way that global socialists and people far more powerful than any single party or candidate is going to let such an easy opportunity to manipulate the outcome of the U.S election, all in the shadows; to pass them by. Look how overt they were in their resistance to Trump in 2016, imagine this could all be done under the hood?

There is little doubt that many want America to be run by Brussels and Beijing.
Shouldn’t you post this crap in a Canadian forum. There are those of us who do not fear for the future or wish to disenfranchise those that wish to vote by mail. This country does not need a foreigner telling us what to do or projecting their insecurities on us. Save your “global socialist” excrement for Canada.
I'm sure you say the same to Dragonlady.
:rolleyes:

Is it your position that there is not a global socialists movement in the works?
 
I would like all those who want liberty wiped off the face of the earth to go somewhere and live that life for just 6 months.

If they like it....6 more months. Repeat.

Hell, I've openly offered Americans to switch nations (as long as it comes with citizenship). I certainly offered this quite seriously on another forum.

To this day, I mean it. As much as some may roll their eyes, I say, "why not"? There are plenty of Americans who are unhappy, some need a fresh start or want to experience the grass on the other side. I am a Canadian out of favour in Canada who has been a major thorn in their side and a whistleblower exposing them. I contacted my own Ministry and asked them years ago "if you are not going to grant me the rights as protected under our Charter, find me a new home". Why not have people just put forward a permanent exchange? It's a far superior method than the immigration system now, it could be like a dating site. Countries can make 1 for 1 trades.

The fookers actually had their office email me, but basically disallowed me from renouncing my citizenship. Imagine that, they have their cake and eat it too. You MUST remain a Canadian and we must NOT abide by allowing you the freedom we pretend to guarantee. I'm not even a rabble rouser or conspiracy guy, I just believe in principle and Rule of Law. My own system rejects it.

So, many obviously have little clue where this will lead. You left a Monarchy for a reason, some want it to be replaced. I submit that mail-in voting, makes it that much easier. Even if it were on the level it would never be trusted by voters.
 
I know many American conservatives dislike the current crop of GOP anyways, many of them called RINO's etc whether on here or other forums/twitter. I've heard some suggest that the GOP don't even want to lead, they want to be led, submissively happy to be in the "spoiler role", content to yell and scream "this and that needs to be done", feigning being men of action, until they actually have the power to do it.

So, ultimately, will it be a good outcome for America and the world that libertarianism/conservatism is wiped off the face of the Western world, or is it problematic? There is no way that global socialists and people far more powerful than any single party or candidate is going to let such an easy opportunity to manipulate the outcome of the U.S election, all in the shadows; to pass them by. Look how overt they were in their resistance to Trump in 2016, imagine this could all be done under the hood?

There is little doubt that many want America to be run by Brussels and Beijing.
Shouldn’t you post this crap in a Canadian forum. There are those of us who do not fear for the future or wish to disenfranchise those that wish to vote by mail. This country does not need a foreigner telling us what to do or projecting their insecurities on us. Save your “global socialist” excrement for Canada.
I'm sure you say the same to Dragonlady.
:rolleyes:

Is it your position that there is not a global socialists movement in the works?

A “global socialist movement”? I don’t buy into q-anon conspiracy theories.
 
I would like all those who want liberty wiped off the face of the earth to go somewhere and live that life for just 6 months.

If they like it....6 more months. Repeat.

Hell, I've openly offered Americans to switch nations (as long as it comes with citizenship). I certainly offered this quite seriously on another forum.

To this day, I mean it. As much as some may roll their eyes, I say, "why not"? There are plenty of Americans who are unhappy, some need a fresh start or want to experience the grass on the other side. I am a Canadian out of favour in Canada who has been a major thorn in their side and a whistleblower exposing them. I contacted my own Ministry and asked them years ago "if you are not going to grant me the rights as protected under our Charter, find me a new home". Why not have people just put forward a permanent exchange? It's a far superior method than the immigration system now, it could be like a dating site. Countries can make 1 for 1 trades.

The fookers actually had their office email me, but basically disallowed me from renouncing my citizenship. Imagine that, they have their cake and eat it too. You MUST remain a Canadian and we must NOT abide by allowing you the freedom we pretend to guarantee. I'm not even a rabble rouser or conspiracy guy, I just believe in principle and Rule of Law. My own system rejects it.

So, many obviously have little clue where this will lead. You left a Monarchy for a reason, some want it to be replaced. I submit that mail-in voting, makes it that much easier. Even if it were on the level it would never be trusted by voters.
Just follow the Democrat's socialist overrun plot--come here illegally and vote. Nobody will stop you.

Can we send you a mail-in ballot? Count you in the census?
:laugh:
 
I know many American conservatives dislike the current crop of GOP anyways, many of them called RINO's etc whether on here or other forums/twitter. I've heard some suggest that the GOP don't even want to lead, they want to be led, submissively happy to be in the "spoiler role", content to yell and scream "this and that needs to be done", feigning being men of action, until they actually have the power to do it.

So, ultimately, will it be a good outcome for America and the world that libertarianism/conservatism is wiped off the face of the Western world, or is it problematic? There is no way that global socialists and people far more powerful than any single party or candidate is going to let such an easy opportunity to manipulate the outcome of the U.S election, all in the shadows; to pass them by. Look how overt they were in their resistance to Trump in 2016, imagine this could all be done under the hood?

There is little doubt that many want America to be run by Brussels and Beijing.
Good. The GOP has changed so drastically that they are anti-American and actively harmful to the nation and it's people
 
I know many American conservatives dislike the current crop of GOP anyways, many of them called RINO's etc whether on here or other forums/twitter. I've heard some suggest that the GOP don't even want to lead, they want to be led, submissively happy to be in the "spoiler role", content to yell and scream "this and that needs to be done", feigning being men of action, until they actually have the power to do it.

So, ultimately, will it be a good outcome for America and the world that libertarianism/conservatism is wiped off the face of the Western world, or is it problematic? There is no way that global socialists and people far more powerful than any single party or candidate is going to let such an easy opportunity to manipulate the outcome of the U.S election, all in the shadows; to pass them by. Look how overt they were in their resistance to Trump in 2016, imagine this could all be done under the hood?

There is little doubt that many want America to be run by Brussels and Beijing.
Shouldn’t you post this crap in a Canadian forum. There are those of us who do not fear for the future or wish to disenfranchise those that wish to vote by mail. This country does not need a foreigner telling us what to do or projecting their insecurities on us. Save your “global socialist” excrement for Canada.

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You have simply not been paying attention if you believe that China, and many wanting to make it rich there at humanities expense, isn't going to be the centre of the world. It has to be, they have the cheap labour and the 1.4B people.

Just ask the British about their great intel crusade over the last 20 years. "Keep your eyes on Russia" (9/11 occurs), "keep your eyes on Russia" (China takes over the world economy and global manufacturing"), "keep your eyes on Russia" (China releases a Wuhan Virus).

Then the great kicker in the groin, which was always bound to happen, China goes into Hong Kong and basically changes it forever. Including banning some pro-democracy candidates. NOW Britain says "keep your eyes on China".

This is not going to end well for the West. The greatest irony? As China engulfs the world, Russia, as their closest ally, becomes even stronger.

This isn't conspiracy, this is economics and global influence metrics. From the size of Chinas military expansion, to it's spying efforts, economic growth, to it's most treasured assets: a willing Western business, political and media class (and even some online forum posters).
 
Regardless of how it happens...the vote is the will of the people and if the people are fed up with what the Republican Party has become...so be it
 
I know many American conservatives dislike the current crop of GOP anyways, many of them called RINO's etc whether on here or other forums/twitter. I've heard some suggest that the GOP don't even want to lead, they want to be led, submissively happy to be in the "spoiler role", content to yell and scream "this and that needs to be done", feigning being men of action, until they actually have the power to do it.

So, ultimately, will it be a good outcome for America and the world that libertarianism/conservatism is wiped off the face of the Western world, or is it problematic? There is no way that global socialists and people far more powerful than any single party or candidate is going to let such an easy opportunity to manipulate the outcome of the U.S election, all in the shadows; to pass them by. Look how overt they were in their resistance to Trump in 2016, imagine this could all be done under the hood?

There is little doubt that many want America to be run by Brussels and Beijing.

Events will not unfold the way the Democrats think they will.
 
mail in voting has to have strict rules and regulations or it wont work......you have to request a ballet....if they just send them out to every address and everyone gets one, there may be lots of problems like people not registered voting or non citizens voting.... ..
but they mail out ballots to ONLY registered voters, and the signature on file, MUST match, the signature on their registrar for the voter?

Most states can not afford to do such mailing or just don't do that.....

We definitely will need to increase funding for staffing at the post office, to handle the influx of mail with these ballots during this election period, where many many many more mail in absentee ballots will be used more than the norm....imo!
 
I know many American conservatives dislike the current crop of GOP anyways, many of them called RINO's etc whether on here or other forums/twitter. I've heard some suggest that the GOP don't even want to lead, they want to be led, submissively happy to be in the "spoiler role", content to yell and scream "this and that needs to be done", feigning being men of action, until they actually have the power to do it.

So, ultimately, will it be a good outcome for America and the world that libertarianism/conservatism is wiped off the face of the Western world, or is it problematic? There is no way that global socialists and people far more powerful than any single party or candidate is going to let such an easy opportunity to manipulate the outcome of the U.S election, all in the shadows; to pass them by. Look how overt they were in their resistance to Trump in 2016, imagine this could all be done under the hood?

There is little doubt that many want America to be run by Brussels and Beijing.
Shouldn’t you post this crap in a Canadian forum. There are those of us who do not fear for the future or wish to disenfranchise those that wish to vote by mail. This country does not need a foreigner telling us what to do or projecting their insecurities on us. Save your “global socialist” excrement for Canada.
I'm sure you say the same to Dragonlady.
:rolleyes:

Is it your position that there is not a global socialists movement in the works?

A “global socialist movement”? I don’t buy into q-anon conspiracy theories.

Democrats aren't in favor of globalism just like they aren't in favor of taking your guns or illegal immigration. We have raised an entire generation and half of folks too thick to see that Democrats simply use incrementalism to get what they ultimately want. "We don't want to take your guns", but in the meantime they will incrementally pass laws that slowly eat away at gun rights to give the appearance they are simply trying to protect folks. The last gun law gun law will not seem quite so malicious since it will simply be removing guns from the few that still are allowed to have them. Maybe they will just ban ammo outright. I doubt many of their supporters would be able to put two and two together to see the correlation between an ammo ban and a gun ban. The same goes for illegal immigration. "We don't want illegal immigration, but we don't support a wall, want to give them driver's licenses, healthcare, allow them to vote(don't kids yourself and think otherwise), etc." The Democratic constituency is pretty dim and getting dimmer by the day, just the way the politicians like it.
 
They've, the republican politicians have, dug their own grave.... it didn't have to be that way....

Absentee voting or not.... the R politicians are in trouble... in this upcoming election....
 
I know many American conservatives dislike the current crop of GOP anyways, many of them called RINO's etc whether on here or other forums/twitter. I've heard some suggest that the GOP don't even want to lead, they want to be led, submissively happy to be in the "spoiler role", content to yell and scream "this and that needs to be done", feigning being men of action, until they actually have the power to do it.

So, ultimately, will it be a good outcome for America and the world that libertarianism/conservatism is wiped off the face of the Western world, or is it problematic? There is no way that global socialists and people far more powerful than any single party or candidate is going to let such an easy opportunity to manipulate the outcome of the U.S election, all in the shadows; to pass them by. Look how overt they were in their resistance to Trump in 2016, imagine this could all be done under the hood?

There is little doubt that many want America to be run by Brussels and Beijing.
Shouldn’t you post this crap in a Canadian forum. There are those of us who do not fear for the future or wish to disenfranchise those that wish to vote by mail. This country does not need a foreigner telling us what to do or projecting their insecurities on us. Save your “global socialist” excrement for Canada.
I'm sure you say the same to Dragonlady.
:rolleyes:

Is it your position that there is not a global socialists movement in the works?

A “global socialist movement”? I don’t buy into q-anon conspiracy theories.

Democrats aren't in favor of globalism just like they aren't in favor of taking your guns or illegal immigration. We have raised an entire generation and half of folks too thick to see that Democrats simply use incrementalism to get what they ultimately want. "We don't want to take your guns", but in the meantime they will incrementally pass laws that slowly eat away at gun rights to give the appearance they are simply trying to protect folks. The last gun law gun law will not seem quite so malicious since it will simply be removing guns from the few that still are allowed to have them. Maybe they will just ban ammo outright. I doubt many of their supporters would be able to put two and two together to see the correlation between an ammo ban and a gun ban. The same goes for illegal immigration. "We don't want illegal immigration, but we don't support a wall, want to give them driver's licenses, healthcare, allow them to vote(don't kids yourself and think otherwise), etc." The Democratic constituency is pretty dim and getting dimmer by the day, just the way the politicians like it.

We've seen this happen in Canada and it's why we try to warn you all. From our creepy covert patsy police, to massive government, we have little influence on the world. We thought we could ship everything away and enforce a more central control system, it's backfired dramatically.

Remember, before the Wuhan Virus hit America was growing at 2.6% or something. Canada was growing at 0.8%. Is this what you all really want?
 
I know many American conservatives dislike the current crop of GOP anyways, many of them called RINO's etc whether on here or other forums/twitter. I've heard some suggest that the GOP don't even want to lead, they want to be led, submissively happy to be in the "spoiler role", content to yell and scream "this and that needs to be done", feigning being men of action, until they actually have the power to do it.

So, ultimately, will it be a good outcome for America and the world that libertarianism/conservatism is wiped off the face of the Western world, or is it problematic? There is no way that global socialists and people far more powerful than any single party or candidate is going to let such an easy opportunity to manipulate the outcome of the U.S election, all in the shadows; to pass them by. Look how overt they were in their resistance to Trump in 2016, imagine this could all be done under the hood?

There is little doubt that many want America to be run by Brussels and Beijing.
Shouldn’t you post this crap in a Canadian forum. There are those of us who do not fear for the future or wish to disenfranchise those that wish to vote by mail. This country does not need a foreigner telling us what to do or projecting their insecurities on us. Save your “global socialist” excrement for Canada.
I'm sure you say the same to Dragonlady.
:rolleyes:

Is it your position that there is not a global socialists movement in the works?

A “global socialist movement”? I don’t buy into q-anon conspiracy theories.

Democrats aren't in favor of globalism just like they aren't in favor of taking your guns or illegal immigration. We have raised an entire generation and half of folks too thick to see that Democrats simply use incrementalism to get what they ultimately want. "We don't want to take your guns", but in the meantime they will incrementally pass laws that slowly eat away at gun rights to give the appearance they are simply trying to protect folks. The last gun law gun law will not seem quite so malicious since it will simply be removing guns from the few that still are allowed to have them. Maybe they will just ban ammo outright. I doubt many of their supporters would be able to put two and two together to see the correlation between an ammo ban and a gun ban. The same goes for illegal immigration. "We don't want illegal immigration, but we don't support a wall, want to give them driver's licenses, healthcare, allow them to vote(don't kids yourself and think otherwise), etc." The Democratic constituency is pretty dim and getting dimmer by the day, just the way the politicians like it.

We've seen this happen in Canada and it's why we try to warn you all. From our creepy covert patsy police, to massive government, we have little influence on the world. We thought we could ship everything away and enforce a more central control system, it's backfired dramatically.

Remember, before the Wuhan Virus hit America was growing at 2.6% or something. Canada was growing at 0.8%. Is this what you all really want?

Unfortunately, not sure it can be stopped. Too many people are too spoiled and blind to see what is going on. They won't realize it until it is too late. It is not just Canada, it has happened all over the world. Incrementalism wrapped up with a bunch of "free" stuff in exchange entices and fools the ignorant masses every time.
 

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