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FALSE! The Old testament is the JEWISH bible. And neither it or the new one or on topic to this thread.I know that. You are hopelessly in error."The Bible" isn't relevant to Christians. Only the Pope and New Testament are, and they don't advocate these vile things that the Koran does. Stop lying.You don't need to read Arabic. Many Arabic readers have read the translated versions and confirmned them to be valid. Scholars aren't needed either. They've been reporting on the Koran for years. I;ll give you a partial scoop on it right now, right here. >>
Mass Genocide - 8:12.......9:5......9:123.........+ many more suras
Wife-Beating - 4:34
Rape - 4:24, ......23:1-6,.......70:29-30
Pedophilia - 65:4
Slavery - 33:50........23:5-6.......8:69......24:32
You check out the Bible? It's all in there.
Hmmm the Bible is the holy book for Christians. The Pople isn't relevant to any Christians other than Catholics.
You are amazingly misinformed.
No. "The Bible is NOT the holy book for Christians. The New Testament is, and even that is just non-Catholic Christians. Got it ?
I have got that you have no clue.
The Christian Bible consists of two books- the Old Testament and the New Testament.
And that applies to both Catholics, Protestants and presumably Orthodox and Copts though I don't really know much about their practices.
It is not opinion, and it is self-explanatory. What also is self-explanatory is that there are Muslim jihadists in this thread, who will say any idiotic, false thing, to keep Islam from being defeated.Protestant is subjectively perceiving "that Islam, by its supremacism, is illegally in violation of the Constitution's Supremacy Clause (Article 6, Section 2). FACT." That is his opinion only and has been factually proven wrong above.
Since so many posters are changing the subject of the thread, and not answering the question of the OP, and we're not getting any moderation to handle it, I will disregard all the OFF TOPIC nonsense, and proceed to try to answer my own questions.
One thing I think will likely happen if/whenever the Supremacy Clause and US Codes laws begin to be enforced, is that Muslims who have immigrated to the US will begin to return back to their homelands. Well, this would be a welcome relief, since these Muslims should absolutely never have been allowed to immigrate into the US in the first place, and bring their crazy culture here, and then start demanding that Americans adhere to it too (Islamization).
Most immigrants from Muslim immigrants to this country came for better opportunities - political or religious freedom, economic opportunities, asylum from war torn countries. The kind of things our Statue of Liberty represents.
Where, specifically, are Muslim Americans demanding that other Americans adhere to their culture?
Many of them perhaps cannot return to their homelands, but instead might leave the US and go to other countries, more willing to tolerate their intolerance (like UK, Canada, France, Denmark). This would be a a step in the right direction, but with Muslim ass-kissers like Obama, Jarrett, Kerry et al in power, unfortunately, this isn't likely to happen anytime soon. Instead, Islamists will continue to Islamize. Dangerous Muslim terrorists will continue to be released from Gitmo (so they can return to the battlefield and kill Americans), and mosques will continue to operate acting as terrorism factories.
Specifically - what "Islamists" are "Islamizing" America? Are all American Muslims "Islamists"?
most of them are not. but you forget that becoming an american means adopting the american culture and adopting american values. Thats what the early immigrants did and thats what made this country strong.
radical muslims refuse to adopt american culture and values. thats the issue.
No one is 'forgetting' anything.Since so many posters are changing the subject of the thread, and not answering the question of the OP, and we're not getting any moderation to handle it, I will disregard all the OFF TOPIC nonsense, and proceed to try to answer my own questions.
One thing I think will likely happen if/whenever the Supremacy Clause and US Codes laws begin to be enforced, is that Muslims who have immigrated to the US will begin to return back to their homelands. Well, this would be a welcome relief, since these Muslims should absolutely never have been allowed to immigrate into the US in the first place, and bring their crazy culture here, and then start demanding that Americans adhere to it too (Islamization).
Most immigrants from Muslim immigrants to this country came for better opportunities - political or religious freedom, economic opportunities, asylum from war torn countries. The kind of things our Statue of Liberty represents.
Where, specifically, are Muslim Americans demanding that other Americans adhere to their culture?
Many of them perhaps cannot return to their homelands, but instead might leave the US and go to other countries, more willing to tolerate their intolerance (like UK, Canada, France, Denmark). This would be a a step in the right direction, but with Muslim ass-kissers like Obama, Jarrett, Kerry et al in power, unfortunately, this isn't likely to happen anytime soon. Instead, Islamists will continue to Islamize. Dangerous Muslim terrorists will continue to be released from Gitmo (so they can return to the battlefield and kill Americans), and mosques will continue to operate acting as terrorism factories.
Specifically - what "Islamists" are "Islamizing" America? Are all American Muslims "Islamists"?
most of them are not. but you forget that becoming an american means adopting the american culture and adopting american values. Thats what the early immigrants did and thats what made this country strong.
radical muslims refuse to adopt american culture and values. thats the issue.
One can be a loyal and dutiful American citizen while at the same time retaining the values and traditions of his home culture, that is indeed what makes America great and strong; one does not exclude the other.
That a Muslim should adhere to a belief system that you subjectively perceive to be 'radical' does not mitigate that Muslim's rights as an American citizen, where the same holds true for a radical Christian opposed to privacy rights for women and equal protection rights for gay Americans.
Indeed, neither you nor anyone else on the right with an unwarranted fear and hatred of Muslims is in a position of authority to judge whether a Muslim is 'radical' or not, or whether he's refused to to accept American culture and values.
The issue is the ignorance of Islam, along with an unwarranted fear and hatred of Muslims and the failure to understand that the actions of the few are not representative of the whole.
religious group in Waco?
there is no "fear of muslims" there is an acknowledgement of the danger presented by radical islam.
Did you support the beheading of 21 Christians in the name of Islam?
FALSE! The Old testament is the JEWISH bible. And neither it or the new one or on topic to this thread.I know that. You are hopelessly in error."The Bible" isn't relevant to Christians. Only the Pope and New Testament are, and they don't advocate these vile things that the Koran does. Stop lying.You check out the Bible? It's all in there.
Hmmm the Bible is the holy book for Christians. The Pople isn't relevant to any Christians other than Catholics.
You are amazingly misinformed.
No. "The Bible is NOT the holy book for Christians. The New Testament is, and even that is just non-Catholic Christians. Got it ?
I have got that you have no clue.
The Christian Bible consists of two books- the Old Testament and the New Testament.
And that applies to both Catholics, Protestants and presumably Orthodox and Copts though I don't really know much about their practices.
You are a creature of subjective craziness.It is not opinion, and it is self-explanatory. What also is self-explanatory is that there are Muslim jihadists in this thread, who will say any idiotic, false thing, to keep Islam from being defeated.Protestant is subjectively perceiving "that Islam, by its supremacism, is illegally in violation of the Constitution's Supremacy Clause (Article 6, Section 2). FACT." That is his opinion only and has been factually proven wrong above.
You don't understand the Constitution and its relative strengths. The 1st amendment is the weakest part of the Constitution. It is riddled with exceptions. The Supremacy Clause is the strongest part of the Constitution, and it completely overrules the 1st flimsy amendment,One, no such law as wished for by Protectionist will occur.
The law perfectly permits internal contract laws by willing individuals, whether secular or religious, as long as it does not violate the Constitution.
or the statutes of the state, city, county, etc.
but no one has said that the constitution would allow the banning of any religion. Well, I think thats what protectionist was claiming, but he is wrong.
But, you also cannot deny that there is a movement within islam (the radical sector) that is trying to invoke world wide sharia law. What do you think the jihad is about, if not that?
My observation ( we are a Secularized Christian nation ) will have to stand or fall on its own merits.No, we are a nation that is predominantly Christian, only.Ah, but, in a very real sense, we ARE a 'Christian' nation... or, more accurately, a heavily Christian-leaning secularized Christian nation.No, it is not. Any more than we are a Christian nation.
As in... founded by Christians, for Christians, populated largely by Christians and the descendants of Christians, smart enough to separate Church from State, generally tolerant of other religions and belief systems, but based upon and operating from a system of laws, philosophy and morals strongly rooted in and adapted from the European Christian mindset... and rejecting belief systems which manifest open hostility towards our culture and traditions and way of life.
You write as if your brain has metal shavings in it.
Ah, but, in a very real sense, we ARE a 'Christian' nation... or, more accurately, a heavily Christian-leaning secularized Christian nation.No, it is not. Any more than we are a Christian nation.
As in... founded by Christians, for Christians, populated largely by Christians and the descendants of Christians, smart enough to separate Church from State, generally tolerant of other religions and belief systems, but based upon and operating from a system of laws, philosophy and morals strongly rooted in and adapted from the European Christian mindset... and rejecting belief systems which manifest open hostility towards our culture and traditions and way of life.
You have not made a single post based on solid substance, in this entire thread. All your posting can be summed up as >>>You are a creature of subjective craziness.It is not opinion, and it is self-explanatory. What also is self-explanatory is that there are Muslim jihadists in this thread, who will say any idiotic, false thing, to keep Islam from being defeated.Protestant is subjectively perceiving "that Islam, by its supremacism, is illegally in violation of the Constitution's Supremacy Clause (Article 6, Section 2). FACT." That is his opinion only and has been factually proven wrong above.
We will not let your ilk inflict that on American and its good citizens.
Islam is not a religion. Islam is not even close to being a religion, despite the interesting number of people who are hoodwinked by it. A religion, according to Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th ed. is a system of beliefs which contains a code of ethics. Code of ethics ? Are you kidding ? Islam is the world's top code of UNethics.Ah, but, in a very real sense, we ARE a 'Christian' nation... or, more accurately, a heavily Christian-leaning secularized Christian nation.No, it is not. Any more than we are a Christian nation.
As in... founded by Christians, for Christians, populated largely by Christians and the descendants of Christians, smart enough to separate Church from State, generally tolerant of other religions and belief systems, but based upon and operating from a system of laws, philosophy and morals strongly rooted in and adapted from the European Christian mindset... and rejecting belief systems which manifest open hostility towards our culture and traditions and way of life.
Promoting one religion over another is distinctly unAmerican.
Thank you for your feedback.Ah, but, in a very real sense, we ARE a 'Christian' nation... or, more accurately, a heavily Christian-leaning secularized Christian nation.No, it is not. Any more than we are a Christian nation.
As in... founded by Christians, for Christians, populated largely by Christians and the descendants of Christians, smart enough to separate Church from State, generally tolerant of other religions and belief systems, but based upon and operating from a system of laws, philosophy and morals strongly rooted in and adapted from the European Christian mindset... and rejecting belief systems which manifest open hostility towards our culture and traditions and way of life.
Promoting one religion over another is distinctly unAmerican.
Islam is not a religion.Ah, but, in a very real sense, we ARE a 'Christian' nation... or, more accurately, a heavily Christian-leaning secularized Christian nation.No, it is not. Any more than we are a Christian nation.
As in... founded by Christians, for Christians, populated largely by Christians and the descendants of Christians, smart enough to separate Church from State, generally tolerant of other religions and belief systems, but based upon and operating from a system of laws, philosophy and morals strongly rooted in and adapted from the European Christian mindset... and rejecting belief systems which manifest open hostility towards our culture and traditions and way of life.
Promoting one religion over another is distinctly unAmerican.
True.Islam is not a religion.Ah, but, in a very real sense, we ARE a 'Christian' nation... or, more accurately, a heavily Christian-leaning secularized Christian nation.No, it is not. Any more than we are a Christian nation.
As in... founded by Christians, for Christians, populated largely by Christians and the descendants of Christians, smart enough to separate Church from State, generally tolerant of other religions and belief systems, but based upon and operating from a system of laws, philosophy and morals strongly rooted in and adapted from the European Christian mindset... and rejecting belief systems which manifest open hostility towards our culture and traditions and way of life.
Promoting one religion over another is distinctly unAmerican.
That's not for you to decide.
See Post # 391My observation ( we are a Secularized Christian nation ) will have to stand or fall on its own merits.No, we are a nation that is predominantly Christian, only.Ah, but, in a very real sense, we ARE a 'Christian' nation... or, more accurately, a heavily Christian-leaning secularized Christian nation.No, it is not. Any more than we are a Christian nation.
As in... founded by Christians, for Christians, populated largely by Christians and the descendants of Christians, smart enough to separate Church from State, generally tolerant of other religions and belief systems, but based upon and operating from a system of laws, philosophy and morals strongly rooted in and adapted from the European Christian mindset... and rejecting belief systems which manifest open hostility towards our culture and traditions and way of life.
You write as if your brain has metal shavings in it.
Your unprovoked personal insults directed against those with whom you disagree are growing tiresome, Jakey - don't try over-thinking this stuff - you simply and obviously aren't up to the challenge - so spare yourself the embarrassment - and give it a rest.
True.Islam is not a religion.Ah, but, in a very real sense, we ARE a 'Christian' nation... or, more accurately, a heavily Christian-leaning secularized Christian nation.No, it is not. Any more than we are a Christian nation.
As in... founded by Christians, for Christians, populated largely by Christians and the descendants of Christians, smart enough to separate Church from State, generally tolerant of other religions and belief systems, but based upon and operating from a system of laws, philosophy and morals strongly rooted in and adapted from the European Christian mindset... and rejecting belief systems which manifest open hostility towards our culture and traditions and way of life.
Promoting one religion over another is distinctly unAmerican.
That's not for you to decide.
It is up to ALL of us to decide, as a Nation.
And the only way for that to be decided, is to openly discuss it, admitting all opinions on the subject.
This is not an Islamic court, where only one perspective is allowed.
Islam is not a religion. Islam is not even close to being a religion, despite the interesting number of people who are hoodwinked by it. A religion, according to Webster's New World College Dictionary, 4th ed. is a system of beliefs which contains a code of ethics. Code of ethics ? Are you kidding ? Islam is the world's top code of UNethics.Ah, but, in a very real sense, we ARE a 'Christian' nation... or, more accurately, a heavily Christian-leaning secularized Christian nation.No, it is not. Any more than we are a Christian nation.
As in... founded by Christians, for Christians, populated largely by Christians and the descendants of Christians, smart enough to separate Church from State, generally tolerant of other religions and belief systems, but based upon and operating from a system of laws, philosophy and morals strongly rooted in and adapted from the European Christian mindset... and rejecting belief systems which manifest open hostility towards our culture and traditions and way of life.
Promoting one religion over another is distinctly unAmerican.
It's obvious how Islam came to be purported as a "religion". When the founders of it were espousing imperialist genocidal mass murder, extreme misogyny, rape, pedophilia, kidnapping/slavery, torture/mutilation, racial and sexist discrimination, animal cruelty/killing, and other vile things, and were looking for troops to join them in their conquests throughout Asia Minor, they needed something very powerful and extreme to offset and shield them from the severe condemnation they were sure to get.
The answer was religion. By pretending that the Koran, and all of its hatred and immorality was the word of God, they forced the people to accept it. After all, nobody wants to go against God do they ? As this grandiose con job spread, over time, it became deeper and deeper entrenched as a religion, and more and more difficult to abolish or reform.
And it spread only because the murderous Muslim marauders who spread it, killed 270 million people around the world to do that. Many, if not most, Muslims living today, trace their ancestry back to people who were non-Muslims and were forced to become Muslims. Hell of a way for someone to call himself a Muslim.
Also, Islam is banned by the Constitution, Article 6, Section 2. Try reading it sometime.
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As well as staatists and totalitarians attempting to silence differing opinion.True.Islam is not a religion.Ah, but, in a very real sense, we ARE a 'Christian' nation... or, more accurately, a heavily Christian-leaning secularized Christian nation.
As in... founded by Christians, for Christians, populated largely by Christians and the descendants of Christians, smart enough to separate Church from State, generally tolerant of other religions and belief systems, but based upon and operating from a system of laws, philosophy and morals strongly rooted in and adapted from the European Christian mindset... and rejecting belief systems which manifest open hostility towards our culture and traditions and way of life.
Promoting one religion over another is distinctly unAmerican.
That's not for you to decide.
It is up to ALL of us to decide, as a Nation.
And the only way for that to be decided, is to openly discuss it, admitting all opinions on the subject.
This is not an Islamic court, where only one perspective is allowed.
Oh you're right about that. This forum is an excellent platform for liars and crack pots.
