if you hand somebody a gun in America & they kill with it, you get charged with a crime, Biden is handing Ukraine weapons, that means America is @ war

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The US is providing intel for Ukraine and identifying targets. We have CIA AND SPECIAL FORCES on the ground in Ukraine.

By the legal definition, the US is a cobelligerent.

CIA? Maybe. Special Forces? Nope!

 

[BULLDOG]

Plenty of State laws saying providing a gun to a felon or someone banned from owning guns is a crime.

And plenty of states don't seem to give a shit. No federal law requires the seller to know, or find out if the person buying their gun is allowed to have one.

 

[progressive hunter]

And plenty of states don't seem to give a shit. No federal law requires the seller to know, or find out if the person buying their gun is allowed to have one.

the 2nd amendment says it doesnt matter,,

 

[lennypartiv]

We need to update how we handle guns in this country.
Let citizens from a certain age legally own them, but they must be...

1. Registered
2. Insured
3. and include Training

Just as we handle cars.

 

[martybegan]

And plenty of states don't seem to give a shit. No federal law requires the seller to know, or find out if the person buying their gun is allowed to have one.

There is a difference between prior restraint and actually being punished for giving a gun to someone who doesn't meet the legal requirements to have one.

The real problem is all the laws you gun grabbers propose make it illegal for someone to hand a gun to his friend during hunting, or even target practice. It just proves that the purpose of these laws isn't to control illegal gun use, but to make legal gun use impossible


And then you wonder why RKBA people won't trust you.

 

[BULLDOG]

There is a difference between prior restraint and actually being punished for giving a gun to someone who doesn't meet the legal requirements to have one.

The real problem is all the laws you gun grabbers propose make it illegal for someone to hand a gun to his friend during hunting, or even target practice. It just proves that the purpose of these laws isn't to control illegal gun use, but to make legal gun use impossible


And then you wonder why RKBA people won't trust you.

Should it be illegal if that friend wasn't legally allowed to have a gun? What if it was a recent friend, and he lost his right to have a gun back when he was young and stupid, but never mentioned that to you? Would that make it OK for you to let him hunt with your gun? Remember, you have no obligation to know or find out what that friend did before you knew him. What about target practice? You let your friend shoot your gun at a target range. He sees someone he hates at another bench and kills him with your gun. You just gave a gun to a felon, and he killed someone with it. You shouldn't have a responsibility to know who you are arming?

 

[martybegan]

Should it be illegal if that friend wasn't legally allowed to have a gun? What if it was a recent friend, and he lost his right to have a gun back when he was young and stupid, but never mentioned that to you? Would that make it OK for you to let him hunt with your gun? Remember, you have no obligation to know or find out what that friend did before you knew him. ,

Should two friends sharing a gun during a hunt be required to go to a federal firearm seller any time they want to change the current "possessor" of the gun?

Because all those universal background check laws proposed by gun grabbers would require that.

If you give a gun to a person who isn't legally able to possess one, you are guilty of a crime in most States.

If you morons would propose laws that weren't screens to create de facto bans, we wouldn't have these issues.

 

[BULLDOG]

Should two friends sharing a gun during a hunt be required to go to a federal firearm seller any time they want to change the current "possessor" of the gun?

Because all those universal background check laws proposed by gun grabbers would require that.

If you give a gun to a person who isn't legally able to possess one, you are guilty of a crime in most States.

If you morons would propose laws that weren't screens to create de facto bans, we wouldn't have these issues.

Got it. You think it's OK to give a gun to a felon who isn't allowed to have a gun as long as he is your friend, or at least an acquaintence who mentioned he would like to shoot a gun like yours.

 

[martybegan]

Got it. You think it's OK to give a gun to a felon who isn't allowed to have a gun as long as he is your friend, or at least an acquaintence who mentioned he would like to shoot a gun like yours.

It's not OK because the law says it's not OK.

If you don't know the status of the person, you don't give them the gun. It's that simple.

Making people go to an FFL anytime someone wants to touch one of your guns, even family members is retarded, and is what is usually proposed by Gun grabbing ninnies such as you.

 

[BULLDOG]

It's not OK because the law says it's not OK.

If you don't know the status of the person, you don't give them the gun. It's that simple.

Making people go to an FFL anytime someone wants to touch one of your guns, even family members is retarded, and is what is usually proposed by Gun grabbing ninnies such as you.

Federal law, and many state laws don't require that you know anyone's background. They don't require you to even check their background.

 

[martybegan]

Federal law, and many state laws don't require that you know anyone's background. They don't require you to even check their background.

They punish you if you end up giving a gun to the wrong person.

Anything involving constant background checks over and over between two people just sharing a firearm is prior restraint, and is designed to make anyone pay or suffer time penalties just for using a firearm.

Universal background checks are just another end run attempt around the Constitution.

 

[BULLDOG]

They punish you if you end up giving a gun to the wrong person.

Anything involving constant background checks over and over between two people just sharing a firearm is prior restraint, and is designed to make anyone pay or suffer time penalties just for using a firearm.

Universal background checks are just another end run attempt around the Constitution.

I agree. Continual background checks for the same person makes no sense. I personally think anyone who is subject to a background check should be given a record of when their background was checked, and any other pertinant information. That could be shown instead of having further background checks made until some pre-determined time in the future. after which, the check should be redone. That is common sense reasonable regulation.

 

[martybegan]

I agree. Continual background checks for the same person makes no sense. I personally think anyone who is subject to a background check should be given a record of when their background was checked, and any other pertinant information. That could be shown instead of having further background checks made until some pre-determined time in the future. after which, the check should be redone. That is common sense reasonable regulation.

And is never what is proposed by gun grabbers.

Which is why RKBA people don't trust people like you.

 

[BULLDOG]

And is never what is proposed by gun grabbers.

Which is why RKBA people don't trust people like you.

RKBA? Riduculous Krazy Blithering Assholes?

 

[martybegan]

RKBA? Riduculous Krazy Blithering Assholes?

You know what it means, mouth breather.

 

[BULLDOG]

You know what it means, mouth breather.

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