I'll never fly American Airlines again!

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Bush is such a champion he makes his way into EVERY thread.

 

[Sallow]

Taliban and al Qaeda pilots fly for real cheap. Janet Napolitano wil bring them here, even provide them with welfare checks while they're learning to fly. Remember that foreign airline pilot who pushed the nose over and flew the plane straight down into the ocean somewhere off of Nova Scotia a few years back, before 9/11 chanting "Allhu akhbar" all the way down. Everybody was all shocked and bent out of shape when that was the suggested cause of the incident? "No it can't be".
After the tail markings of a few AA planes are spotted sticking out of the sides of a few buildings some shyster lawyer will convince a jury that AA's hiring practices really weren't in the best interest of the flying public and contributed to the public littering. But you know, that's what corporations have insurance companies for, to pay for little slips and falls like that.

9/11 happened on Bush's watch before the DHS and after the Conservatives blocked new regulations on airport security.

It was the Clinton administration that stopped intel sharing between agencies there hero, let's make sure we give credit where it is due.

Actually..no.

Before the AUMF, a President actually had to go to congress to get authorization, to, guess what? Use military force.

Clinton went to Congress to get Conservative hero, Osama Bin Laden using special ops.

They declined..and left him with missiles.

They weren't all that convinced, that Bush's family friend, Osama Bin Laden, was a threat.

Had nothing to do with "intel sharing". Everyone was well aware that Osama Bin Laden, with the possible exception of the Bushes, was a threat.

He was on CNN..in an interview, stating that he had declared war on the US.

 

[Sallow]

Bush is such a champion he makes his way into EVERY thread.

Bush is a champion to conservatives.

To everyone else?

A totally incompetent President.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Bush is such a champion he makes his way into EVERY thread.

Bush is a champion to conservatives.

To everyone else?

A totally incompetent President.

I had coffee with breakfast

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

 

[Foxfyre]

Another perspective on this: (Bolded emphasis is mine)

Shanghai Airlines in China is outsourcing its pilot training to Redding in a deal that has given the area an economic lift.

Aviation support companies, grocery stores, restaurants, retailers, banks and hotels all have benefitted since IASCO opened its flight-training campus in February at Redding Municipal Airport.

Through leases and aircraft fuel sales, the airport will get about $42,000 a year in additional revenue, Redding Airports Manager Rod Dinger said.

The school today has 56 students, and the Chinese Aviation Authority has approved IASCO's Redding campus for up to 132 students.

Twenty-six employees, including 20 flight instructors who are paid between $35,000 and $40,000 a year, work at the school. By the middle of 2010, IASCO's Redding campus expects to have more than 40 employees, General Manager Anne Marie Guay said.

"This Chinese market is huge. Even though the economy has slowed down there, they still need to train about 1,000 pilots a year," said Jason Lawver, IASCO's chief flight instructor in Redding.

Shanghai Airlines is one of 13 air carriers in China that outsources pilot training to the United States, Guay said. Redding is one of about 15 flight schools in this country that works with China.

Guay said the amount of restricted airspace in China and limited number of facilities make the United States a good alternative for pilot training.

Japan Airlines has used IASCO's training facility in Napa since 1969.
More here:
Chinese pilots train at Redding flight school » Redding Record Searchlight

 

[OKTexas]

9/11 happened on Bush's watch before the DHS and after the Conservatives blocked new regulations on airport security.

It was the Clinton administration that stopped intel sharing between agencies there hero, let's make sure we give credit where it is due.

Actually..no.

Before the AUMF, a President actually had to go to congress to get authorization, to, guess what? Use military force.

Clinton went to Congress to get Conservative hero, Osama Bin Laden using special ops.

They declined..and left him with missiles.

They weren't all that convinced, that Bush's family friend, Osama Bin Laden, was a threat.

Had nothing to do with "intel sharing". Everyone was well aware that Osama Bin Laden, with the possible exception of the Bushes, was a threat.

He was on CNN..in an interview, stating that he had declared war on the US.

Deflection much, the intel on the hijackers had everything to do with 9/11 and OBL was handed to Clinton on a silver platter twice by the Sudan and Billy boy declined to take him out. It would have taken one cruse missile.

 

[BillyV]

It looks like their first class happened to be Chinese, but the agreement with American Eagle happened at that class' graduation. More to the story:

The flight school announced the deal with American Eagle during the graduation ceremony of its first class to complete training at NTRA. The 15 graduating pilots celebrated 12 months of work to complete their training. The group of students, all from China, will return to jobs with a Chinese airliner.

U.S. Aviation Academy announces agreement with American Eagle | Herald Democrat

Since the point of the American Eagle agreement is to help comply with new FAA rules, training non-US citizens or at least those without a green card would seem to make little sense.

Apparently, the program allows AE pilots to qualify for the right hand seat by working both for the airlines and for the school as an instructor.

However, I noted on the linked website that candidates for this position must be legally able to work in the United States and be able to read, speak and understand English. That does NOT exclude foreign pilots being hired and trained by AE at a time when millions of American's are out of work.

You know, if they "must possess the legal right to work in the United States" then they have already passed through the immigration progress and are legal resident aliens. Are you saying we should have legal resident aliens unable to qualify for jobs in the US? Anyway, we're not talking "millions"; American Eagle only has 3,200 pilots in the entire fleet, and anyone hired with the legal right to work in the US would be eligible to be paid commensurate with their US citizen counterparts. Therefore, there is no reason they would hire a foreign pilot over a US pilot. This seems like much ado about nothing.

 

[Jarhead]

I was shocked when I found out how little regional pilots make.

A friend of mine fly's for AA. He does the Europe loop and alternates with the Carribean loop.

His schedule for England is.....6 hour flight....2 days over....6 hours back....2 days over....and again. Add in the 90 minute pre flight and 30 minute post flight routine and he is working 16 hours every 3 days

His schedule for carribean loop is 3 hour flight.....1 day over.....3 hours back.

add in the 2 hours pre and post.....its 10 hours over 2 days.

He complains about his pay but when I ask him why he continues with it he says "you cant beat the hours"

He has been offered private corporate jet opportunities and currier opportunities..

But they demanded more working hours per week.

Its a country of choices.

No one forces you to work any job you dont feel compensates you properly. You also get to decide what is more important....money, quality of life, etc....

A country of choices...you get to choose what meets your personal desires.

The beauty of America.

 

[nitroz]

*shrugs*

I hate flying anyway. If I did have to fly, I'd only trust Continental, southwest, and delta.

 

[Oldguy]

Why you upset OldGuy? You support Free Trade Agreements right?

No I do not.

I work with a guy who has an ATP Cert. He left the Airlines because they don't pay enough. He gets offers every once in a while for 2 or 3 month jobs but he never accepts. He says he'll probably never go back to the Airlines.

Wait. Isn't that just that free market the anti-union Republican's are always talking about?

 

[Oldguy]

Check this out. American Eagle has a pilot training program in partnership with the US Aviation Academy. They recruit pilot trainees, bring them onboard and promise a job when the training is finished.

US Flight Academy Partner Regional Airline Pipeline Program | 866-383-2400 | US Aviation Academy | 4850 Spartan Drive, Denton, TX 76207

Ok, great you say, right? Not necessarily. Here's a blurb from the local paper about US Aviation Academy graduating it's first class:

"DENISON, TX-- The US Aviation Academy held their first annual graduation at the North Texas Regional Airport Wednesday afternoon, where leaders made a big announcement for the program.

The Aviation Academy is partnering with American Eagle Airlines, a branch of American Airlines. The partnership brings more opportunities to instructors within the program, as well as new opportunities to the Airport. Right now, the program is specifically designed for students who come from China, but the Aviation Academy says they hope to expand that student base to other countries as well as domestic students..."

Local Aviation School Announces Expansion - KTEN.com - No One Gets You Closer

Hey, American Airlines! Gotta problem with American pilots? What? They won't work as cheaply as Chinese? Tough. The last thing we need to do is be training Chinese pilots for American jobs.

You've damn sure lost MY business.

You jumped the gun. Those Chinese students are not taking American jobs. They are going back to China to fly. And the school is planning on training domestic students.

Does this change your opinion about flying American Airlines?

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Maybe. That will depend upon what I learn about AE's recruiting practices.

 

[uscitizen]

Damn Texicans!