IPCC Issues Bleakest Warning Yet- Only Small Window Left to Save Planet

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So not only are they and you playing games with the starting date, they and you are playing games with the ending date. Their errors are getting progressively worse. And you and them lack the honesty to admit it.
 
So not only are they and you playing games with the starting date, they and you are playing games with the ending date. Their errors are getting progressively worse. And you and them lack the honesty to admit it.
Spencer is the only one playing games with start dates. He's fucking famous for it. His science is so fucked up in general that no one listens to him anymore about anything. Except John Christy. But I think they may have a more intimate relationship going on
 
Spencer is the only one playing games with start dates. He's fucking famous for it. His science is so fucked up in general that no one listens to him anymore about anything. Except John Christy. But I think they may have a more intimate relationship going on
Look at the graphs. They are saying the exact same thing. In fact, if you look at the last year on your graph - which is ridiculously limited to 2014 - and compare it to Spencer's graph at 2014, Spencer's graph shows a less ridiculous worst case model. So if anything, Spencer is being conservative in his presentation of these ridiculously inaccurate forecasts which are progressively getting worse. For crying out loud even the IPCC is aware of how horribly wrong their models are and has discussed moderating their projections because of it. So don't act like this is some new thing. It's not. Apparently everyone knows it but you.
 
Spencer is the only one playing games with start dates. He's fucking famous for it. His science is so fucked up in general that no one listens to him anymore about anything. Except John Christy. But I think they may have a more intimate relationship going on
You really are being disingenuous. You should be ashamed.





 
You really are being disingenuous. You should be ashamed.





Why don't you point out which one of these links shows someone besides Spencer fucking around with model start dates.
 
Why don't you point out which one of these links shows someone besides Spencer fucking around with model start dates.
Roy Spencer just graphed up their model outputs and compared it to satellite measurements. It's pretty amazing that you accuse him of lying.

Why aren't you aware that their models are running hot. Everyone else is.
 
Roy Spencer just graphed up their model outputs and compared it to satellite measurements. It's pretty amazing that you accuse him of lying.

Why aren't you aware that their models are running hot. Everyone else is.
I accuse him of lying because he is guilty of lying.

The articles at these links refer to two different cases of Spencer fucking with models.


 

U.N.-Backed Banker Alliance Announces “Green” Plan to Transform the Global Financial System


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"The most powerful private financial interests in the world, under the cover of COP26, have developed a plan to transform the global financial system by fusing with institutions such as the World Bank and using them to further erode national sovereignty in the developing world.

On November 3, an “industry-led and UN-convened” alliance of private banking and financial institutions announced plans at the COP26 conference to overhaul the role of global and regional financial institutions, including the World Bank and IMF, as part of a broader plan to “transform” the global financial system. The officially stated purpose of this proposed overhaul, per alliance members, is to promote the transition to a “net zero” economy. However, the group’s proposed “re-imagining” of international financial institutions, according to their recently published “progress report,” would also move to merge these institutions with the private-banking interests that compose the alliance; create a new system of “global financial governance”; and erode national sovereignty among developing countries by forcing them to establish business environments deemed “friendly” to the interests of alliance members. In other words, the powerful banking interests that compose this group are pushing to recreate the entire global financial system for their benefit under the guise of promoting sustainability.

This alliance, called the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero (GFANZ), was launched in April by John Kerry, U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate Change; Janet Yellen, U.S. Secretary of the Treasury and former chair of the Federal Reserve; and Mark Carney, U.N. Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance and former chair of the Bank of England and Bank of Canada. Carney, who is also the U.K. prime minister’s Finance Advisor for the COP26 conference, currently co-chairs the alliance with U.S. billionaire and former mayor of New York City, Michael Bloomberg."
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". . . Today, MDBs are used as “instruments of power” that utilize debt to force developing nations to implement policies that benefit foreign interests rather than their own national interests. If GFANZ gets its way, the MDBs of tomorrow will be used to essentially eliminate national sovereignty, privatize the “natural assets” (e.g., ecosystems, ecological processes) of the developing world, and force increasingly technocratic policies designed by global governance institutions and think tanks on ever more disenfranchised populations.

Though GFANZ has cloaked itself in lofty rhetoric of “saving the planet,” its plans ultimately amount to a corporate-led coup that will make the global financial system even more corrupt and predatory and further reduce the sovereignty of national governments in the developing world."


 

U.N.-Backed Banker Alliance Announces “Green” Plan to Transform the Global Financial System


gfanz-progress-report-cover-nov-2021.png


"The most powerful private financial interests in the world, under the cover of COP26, have developed a plan to transform the global financial system by fusing with institutions such as the World Bank and using them to further erode national sovereignty in the developing world.

On November 3, an “industry-led and UN-convened” alliance of private banking and financial institutions announced plans at the COP26 conference to overhaul the role of global and regional financial institutions, including the World Bank and IMF, as part of a broader plan to “transform” the global financial system. The officially stated purpose of this proposed overhaul, per alliance members, is to promote the transition to a “net zero” economy. However, the group’s proposed “re-imagining” of international financial institutions, according to their recently published “progress report,” would also move to merge these institutions with the private-banking interests that compose the alliance; create a new system of “global financial governance”; and erode national sovereignty among developing countries by forcing them to establish business environments deemed “friendly” to the interests of alliance members. In other words, the powerful banking interests that compose this group are pushing to recreate the entire global financial system for their benefit under the guise of promoting sustainability.

This alliance, called the Glasgow Financial Alliance for Net Zero (GFANZ), was launched in April by John Kerry, U.S. Special Presidential Envoy for Climate Change; Janet Yellen, U.S. Secretary of the Treasury and former chair of the Federal Reserve; and Mark Carney, U.N. Special Envoy for Climate Action and Finance and former chair of the Bank of England and Bank of Canada. Carney, who is also the U.K. prime minister’s Finance Advisor for the COP26 conference, currently co-chairs the alliance with U.S. billionaire and former mayor of New York City, Michael Bloomberg."
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". . . Today, MDBs are used as “instruments of power” that utilize debt to force developing nations to implement policies that benefit foreign interests rather than their own national interests. If GFANZ gets its way, the MDBs of tomorrow will be used to essentially eliminate national sovereignty, privatize the “natural assets” (e.g., ecosystems, ecological processes) of the developing world, and force increasingly technocratic policies designed by global governance institutions and think tanks on ever more disenfranchised populations.

Though GFANZ has cloaked itself in lofty rhetoric of “saving the planet,” its plans ultimately amount to a corporate-led coup that will make the global financial system even more corrupt and predatory and further reduce the sovereignty of national governments in the developing world."



You don't think that actually transforming the entire planet to net zero CO2 emissions might need to involve the world's financiers?
 

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