IPCC Issues Bleakest Warning Yet- Only Small Window Left to Save Planet

For the 30th straight year, the IPCC, with no real evidence of planetary warming, nor any that Co2 causes warming, warns again the planet is near doom...

WHY do we pay for this BULLSHIT???
 
Although the predictions are all over the lot, there is one consistent factor. In each and every case, the coming catastrophe demands much more government regulation and more pain in the immediate future FOR WORKING CLASS citizens, who will struggle to cope with inflation, rising energy costs, artificial food shortages, and brown-outs.

But the "elites" who make these predictions don't have to worry about silly things like that. They are above all of it.
 
Although the predictions are all over the lot, there is one consistent factor. In each and every case, the coming catastrophe demands much more government regulation and more pain in the immediate future FOR WORKING CLASS citizens, who will struggle to cope with inflation, rising energy costs, artificial food shortages, and brown-outs.

But the "elites" who make these predictions don't have to worry about silly things like that. They are above all of it.
Would you care to spell out some specifics?
 
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Fear Porn sells.
 
They report the fear mongering narrative that the "experts" spew at the time.
If you were to actually read the articles you would find an extremely limited number of generally unqualified sources for those stories. It was NOT reflected in peer reviewed publications.
 
If you were to actually read the articles you would find an extremely limited number of generally unqualified sources for those stories. It was NOT reflected in peer reviewed publications.
You determined that decades old articles were unqualified in just four minutes?
Does your condemnation also apply to more recent articles that agree with your narrative?

I call bullshit.
 
You determined that decades old articles were unqualified in just four minutes?
Does your condemnation also apply to more recent articles that agree with your narrative?

I call bullshit.
This forum has been talking for years about 70s new ice age claims in mass media. This news is antique.
 
From Wikipedia's article on Dr Ball

Timothy Francis Ball (November 5, 1938 – September 24, 2022) was a British-born Canadian public speaker and writer who was a professor in the Department of Geography at the University of Winnipeg from 1971 until his retirement in 1996. Ball then became very active in promoting rejection of the scientific consensus on global warming, giving public talks and writing opinion pieces and letters to the editor for Canadian newspapers. He has been a member of energy industry funded lobbying groups.

Ball's expertise in chemistry and physics is ZERO. Ball is funded by the energy industry and has been for years. -- OP

Maurice Frederick Strong, PC, CC, OM, FRSC, FRAIC (April 29, 1929 – November 27, 2015) was a Canadian oil and mineral businessman and a diplomat who served as Under-Secretary-General of the United Nations.[4][5][6]

Strong had his start as an entrepreneur in the Alberta oil patch and was President of Power Corporation of Canada until 1966. In the early 1970s he was Secretary General of the United Nations Conference on the Human Environment and then became the first executive director of the United Nations Environment Programme. He returned to Canada to become Chief Executive Officer of Petro-Canada from 1976 to 1978. He headed Ontario Hydro, one of North America's largest power utilities, was national president and chairman of the Extension Committee of the World Alliance of YMCAs, and headed American Water Development Incorporated. He served as a commissioner of the World Commission on Environment and Development in 1986[7] and was recognised by the International Union for Conservation of Nature as a leader in the international environmental movement.[8]

He was President of the Council of the University for Peace from 1998 to 2006. More recently Strong was an active honorary professor at Peking University and honorary chairman of its Environmental Foundation. He was chairman of the advisory board for the Institute for Research on Security and Sustainability for Northeast Asia.[9] He died at the age of 86 in 2015.[10]

Dewar, Elaine 1948- (Elaine Ruth Dewar)​

PERSONAL:​

Born June 18, 1948, in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan, Canada; daughter of Sam (a physician) and Petty Sarah Landa; married Stephen Dewar, June 1, 1969; children: Anna Esther, Danielle Sarah Nicole. Education: Attended Nutana Collegiate and York University; University of Toronto, B.A., 1970. Religion: Jewish. Hobbies and other interests: Swimming, tennis, drawing, reading.

CAREER:​

Me and My Friends Gallery, founder, 1970-72; Maclean's, researcher, assistant editor, and associate editor, 1973-77; freelance journalist, editor, and story editor, 1977—; City Woman (magazine), contributing editor, 1978-82; Lorne Green's New Wilderness, writer and story editor, 1982-85; Toronto Life (magazine), contributing editor, 1984-94; Ryerson Polytechnical Institute, instructor in magazine journalism, 1985-86; Dewar Productions, Inc., director and vice president, 1988—; Writers to Reform Libel Law, cofounder, 1990—.

AWARDS, HONORS:​

York University Gold Medal for Outstanding Academic Achievement in English Literature, University of Toronto; A.C. Forrest Memorial Award; Mutual Life of Canada Award for business writing; Jackman Foundation Award for investigative journalism; University of Western Ontario President's Medal; Outdoor Writer's Association of America Two-Star Award; Foundation for the Advancement of Canadian Letters Author's Award; University of Kansas School of Journalism White Award for investigative journalism.

WRITINGS:​

Cloak of Green, J. Lorimer (Toronto, Ontario, Canada), 1995.

Bones: Discovering the First Americans, Random House Canada (Toronto, Ontario, Canada), 2001.

The Second Tree: Of Clones, Chimeras and Quests for Immortality, Carroll & Graf (New York, NY), 2004.

SIDELIGHTS:​

Elaine Dewar is a Canadian investigative journalist and nonfiction science writer. In Cloak of Green, she presents a study of the environmental movement in various places around the world. She states in her book that, like many other organizations, the environmental movement is connected to government agencies and businesses, and it works to promote and protect its own interests. Dewar also theorizes that environmental groups are linked in a conspiratorial effort to destroy nationalism and create a new world order, which the author calls the "Global Governance Agenda."


But it is one being significantly altered by human activities, hitting levels never seen by homo sapiens and not seen on Earth for well over a million years. Water vapor, being a precipitable component, will not be directly increased by human activity.

Volume proportion is not what determines the amount of energy trapped by a greenhouse gas. Water vapor retains more IR than does CO2 but it is not changing. The warming of the planet is being caused by human activity increasing the level of atmsopheric CO2 a gas with a lifetime measured in centuries. What water vapor, with a lifetime measured in days, does, is basically irrelevant. It is not responsible for the observed warming. It will not ameliorate the observed warming.

Methane is exceedingly potent as a greenhouse gas. Fortunately, its lifetime is only about 12 years and it is at much lower levels than CO2. Look at the table below and compare the proportion of greenhouse warming of each gas to their absolute levels in the atmosphere. Do you not see that arguments that try to tell you that CO2 and methane can't hurt us because their levels are so small are just bullshit attempting to take advantage of the general science ignorance of the audience they're targeting?

All of these gases are being created and emitted by human activities

This comment that that the range of a parameter makes the information useless has become a very popular denier meme. The truth is, it makes it obvious that the IPCC is being honest and accurate while you and Tim Ball and WUWT are not. Here is a larger excerpt from the Wikipedia article on "Greenhouse gas"

Impacts on the overall greenhouse effect​

Main article: Greenhouse effect
refer to caption and adjacent text

Schmidt et al. (2010)[28] analyzed how individual components of the atmosphere contribute to the total greenhouse effect. They estimated that water vapor accounts for about 50% of Earth's greenhouse effect, with clouds contributing 25%, carbon dioxide 20%, and the minor greenhouse gases and aerosols accounting for the remaining 5%. In the study, the reference model atmosphere is for 1980 conditions. Image credit: NASA.[29]
The contribution of each gas to the greenhouse effect is determined by the characteristics of that gas, its abundance, and any indirect effects it may cause. For example, the direct radiative effect of a mass of methane is about 84 times stronger than the same mass of carbon dioxide over a 20-year time frame[30] but it is present in much smaller concentrations so that its total direct radiative effect has so far been smaller, in part due to its shorter atmospheric lifetime in the absence of additional carbon sequestration. On the other hand, in addition to its direct radiative impact, methane has a large, indirect radiative effect because it contributes to ozone formation. Shindell et al. (2005)[31] argues that the contribution to climate change from methane is at least double previous estimates as a result of this effect.[32]

When ranked by their direct contribution to the greenhouse effect, the most important are:[27]

notes:
(A) Water vapor strongly varies locally[34]
(B) The concentration in stratosphere. About 90% of the ozone in Earth's atmosphere is contained in the stratosphere.
CompoundFormulaConcentration in
atmosphere[33] (ppm)
Contribution
(%)
Water vapor and cloudsH
2O
10–50,000(A)36–72%
Carbon dioxideCO2~4009–26%
MethaneCH
4
~1.84–9%
OzoneO
3
2–8(B)3–7%
In addition to the main greenhouse gases listed above, other greenhouse gases include sulfur hexafluoride, hydrofluorocarbons and perfluorocarbons (see IPCC list of greenhouse gases). Some greenhouse gases are not often listed. For example, nitrogen trifluoride has a high global warming potential (GWP) but is only present in very small quantities.[35]

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None of this really, refutes the point, that, the IPCC is a globalist political body, and not a true, "scientific," body. You somehow, believe, that arguing the sources of evidence, is a substitution for ideas, it is not. All research institutions can be paid off by the same powers that are in charge of the political goals of the IPCC.

Only studies that engage in, and study supposed, human caused CO2 affects, will be studied, and considered at the IPCC, because there is a bureaucratic global agenda, it is baked into the agenda at the UN and at the IPCC, this is what you did not address. This is the reason why the models and predictions at the COP meetings and IPCC reports, are always, and forever, continually wrong.

. . . which is the subject of the thread.
 
This forum has been talking for years about 70s new ice age claims in mass media. This news is antique.
Based upon the trend of historical empirical climate data from the geologic record, the odds of another glacial cycle occurring before the planet transitions from an ice age to a greenhouse planet are high. The earth is uniquely configured for colder temperatures because the polar regions are thermally isolated.

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Hilarious.

Our 4,684th we must act now or all is lost warning in the last 50 years.

Meanwhile in the real world.

Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions​


They've been doing a great job. :rolleyes:

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Hilarious.

Our 4,684th we must act now or all is lost warning in the last 50 years.

Meanwhile in the real world.

Wrong Again: 50 Years of Failed Eco-pocalyptic Predictions​


Even worse! This window is far tinier than the last one!
 
Are you unfamiliar with Spencer's mistreatment of model data?
I will take that as a yes.

From Roy Spencer

June 13, 2016

Roy Spencer was among individuals listed as creditors in Peabody Energy’s 2016 bankruptcy filings, reports the Center for Media and Democracy (CMD/PRWatch). [17]

While the available bankruptcy documents do not list the scale or dates of funding, they outline Peabody Energy’s financial ties to a large network of groups promoting climate change denial. [18]

Other individuals appearing in the documents include climate deniers Willie Soon, Richard Lindzen, and Richard Berman. The long list of organizations also includes groups such as Americans for Prosperity, American Legislative Exchange Council, CFACT, Institute for Energy Research, State Policy Network, the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and dozens more. [19]

The Guardian also analysed and reported on the Peabody bankruptcy findings: [20]

“These groups collectively are the heart and soul of climate denial,” said Kert Davies, founder of the Climate Investigation Center, who has spent 20 years tracking funding for climate denial. “It’s the broadest list I have seen of one company funding so many nodes in the denial machine.”
The company’s filings reveal funding for a range of organisations which have fought Barack Obama’s plans to cut greenhouse gas emissions, and denied the very existence of climate change. […]
Among Peabody’s beneficiaries, the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change has insisted – wrongly – that carbon emissions are not a threat but “the elixir of life” while the American Legislative Exchange Council is trying to overturn Environmental Protection Agency rules cutting emissions from power plants. Meanwhile, Americans for Prosperity campaigns against carbon pricing. The Oklahoma chapter was on the list. […]
“The breadth of the groups with financial ties to Peabody is extraordinary. Thinktanks, litigation groups, climate scientists, political organisations, dozens of organisations blocking action on climate all receiving funding from the coal industry,” said Nick Surgey, director of research for the Center for Media and Democracy.
“We expected to see some denial money, but it looks like Peabody is the treasury for a very substantial part of the climate denial movement.” [20]
Notable organizations also listed as creditors in the bankruptcy documents include:


July 2011

In July 2011, a paper co-authored by Spencer was published in the journal Remote Sensing, “[which is] a fine [peer-reviewed] journal for geographers, but it does not deal with atmospheric and climate science,” RealClimate found. [52]

His paper looked at a potential connection between clouds and global warming. The paper received significant media attention, and climate change skeptics claimed that it “blow a gaping hole in global warming alarmism.” [53]

Within three days of the publication of Spencer & Braswell’s paper, two climate scientists (Kevin Trenberth & John Fasullo) repeated the analysis and showed that the IPCC models are in agreement with the observations, so refuting Spencer’s claims. [52]

In Andrew Dessler’s view, “[This] paper is not really intended for other scientists, since they do not take Roy Spencer seriously anymore (he’s been wrong too many times). Rather, he’s writing his papers for Fox News, the editorial board of the Wall Street Journal, Congressional staffers, and the blogs. These are his audience and the people for whom this research is actually useful — in stopping policies to reduce GHG emissions — which is what Roy wants.” [54]

In response to the flawed peer review that allowed the publication of the paper, the Editor-in-Chief of Remote Sensing stepped down. He had this to say: (PDF) [55]

“After having become aware of the situation, and studying the various pro and contra arguments, I agree with the critics of the paper. Therefore, I would like to take the responsibility for this editorial decision and, as a result, step down as Editor-in-Chief of the journal Remote Sensing.

With this step I would also like to personally protest against how the authors and like-minded climate sceptics have much exaggerated the paper’s conclusions in public statements. . .” [55]


August 2005

According to an August 12, 2005 New York Times article, Spencer, along with another well-known “skeptic,” John Christy, admitted they made a mistake in their satellite data research that they said demonstrated a cooling in the troposphere (the earth’s lowest layer of atmosphere). It turned out that the exact opposite was occurring and the troposphere was getting warmer. [66]

“These papers should lay to rest once and for all the claims by John Christy and other global warming skeptics that a disagreement between tropospheric and surface temperature trends means that there are problems with surface temperature records or with climate models,” said Alan Robock, a meteorologist at Rutgers University. [66]

From an Analysis of Roy Spencer's"Hillary Clinton Boards the Climate Crisis Train to Nowhere"​

REVIEWERS’ OVERALL FEEDBACK​

These comments are the overall opinion of scientists on the article, they are substantiated by their knowledge in the field and by the content of the analysis in the annotations on the article.
Kerry Emanuel, Professor of Atmospheric Science, MIT:
The article is inaccurate in several places and conveys that one must choose between solving immediate problems, such as poverty, and long-term risks such as climate change. We can do both, and indeed must do both if we take poverty seriously, since climate change disproportionately affects the poor.
Jim Kossin, Research Scientist, NOAA's Center for Weather and Climate:
The author makes a number of statements that are not supported by the science or by established scientific process. He is basically playing by a different set of rules than the scientific community at large, which allows him to say anything he wants in order to make his case. A number of statements are misleading and some are obfuscating, particularly in terms of potential impacts of climate change on humans.
Victor Venema, Scientist, University of Bonn, Germany:
This article by Roy Spencer is misleading when it comes to his own work on tropospheric temperature changes and several times severely wrong outside of his expertise. It does not give a fair overview of the state of the science.
Peter Gleick, President Emeritus and Chief Scientist, Pacific Institute:
Almost every claim in this article is scientifically inaccurate or misleading.
Alexis Berg, Associate Research Scholar, Princeton University:
This articles uses a number of misleading statements, logical flaws and unsubstantiated claims to try to defend the erroneous idea that climate change is nothing to worry about, that there is nothing to do about it anyway, and that wanting to address it is all a power play by politicians.
Benjamin Horton, Professor, Rutgers University:
The discussion on sea level rise is misleading.
 
I will take that as a yes.
Can you provide a comparison of CMIP6 model predictions and observations that shows something different than this?

Because if you can't then you haven't proven that their models are accurate.

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