Iran nuclear deal: European nations 'siding with ayatollahs' - Pompeo

[2aguy]

You don't giver 150 billion dollars in cash to terrorists...you moron....no matter if it belongs to them or not...

We should have applied that to the CSA after the civil war.

They should have outlawed the democrat party after the Civil War the way Germany outlawed the nazi party after World War 2.

 

[meaner gene]

And letting Iran even think about getting nuclear weapons is the dumbest thing since you morons told us hitler was a good statesman...you twit...

Yet, as the IAEA and european inspectors have proven, Iran isn't even thinking about making a nuclear weapon.

Case closed.

 

[Nostra]

It happened. All more advanced cultures have a habit over ruling over less advanced ones. You just like to make it seem like that's not so to further your own sad political goals.

The only reason the Chinese were not imperialists was because of their insular cultural superiority complex. They were the "middle kingdom" so fuck anyone else. Interesting how the Japanese took the same cultural superiority and made it imperialistic due to resource constraints.

Again, there's imperialism, and then there is what the Europeans did, which has really messed the world up to this very day.

How would they know? Did they inspect all the military sites the Mullahs said couldn't be inspected?

Again, the Iranians complied with the treaty, they complied with inspections, and teh billions we've spent on intelligence didn't fine one shred of proof they violated the treaty.

The Europeans worked very hard to get that treaty to start with, and Trump tore it up on them.

Again, since Barry Hussein got rolled by the Mullahs on the world stage and several military sites are off limits to any inspections, we don't know jack shit about their nuke program.

And it wasn't a treaty, stupid. It was an Executive Order.

 

[meaner gene]

Nope.........they are a rogue, terrorist nation...you don't give them 150 billion dollars in cash...

We should have applied that to the CSA after the civil war. Reconstruction HELL, screw the traitors until they no longer want to fly their flag.

 

[2aguy]

And letting Iran even think about getting nuclear weapons is the dumbest thing since you morons told us hitler was a good statesman...you twit...

Yet, as the IAEA and european inspectors have proven, Iran isn't even thinking about making a nuclear weapon.

Case closed.

The U.N. morons all took bribes for the Oil for Food Program so you trusting them is really fucking stupid.

 

[meaner gene]

What part of "diplomacy is grown up stuff," includes giving 150 billion dollars in cash to the chief sponsor of international terrorism in the world?

The part of following international law, and obligation the international treaties agreed to.

lol Which laws? Which treaties? Cut the bullshit.

Full list of laws and obligations spelled out here.

The United States, Iran, and $1.7 billion: Sorting out the details | Brookings

What's the real story behind the settlement of a decades-old financial dispute between the United States and Iran?

www.brookings.edu

 

[Nostra]

How would they know? Did they inspect all the military sites the Mullahs said couldn't be inspected?

Again, the Iranians complied with the treaty, they complied with inspections, and teh billions we've spent on intelligence didn't fine one shred of proof they violated the treaty.

The Europeans worked very hard to get that treaty to start with, and Trump tore it up on them.

Under the treaty, there were not sites that were "off limits" All nuclear sites were subject to immediate unannounced inspection. While non-nuclear sites, were subject to a process which could give them up to 3 weeks to gain entry to.

It would be like Russia wanting immediate access to the Pentagon, or to NORAD in Cheyenne Mountain, without time to remove or lock up classified information.

BTW: Given 3 weeks to remove nuclear material doesn't remove the traces of nuclear material, which as Chernobyl proves, remain for decades or centuries, and can't be washed away.

Under the treaty, there were not sites that were "off limits"

You are an idiot.

1. It wasn't a treaty, it was an Executive Order. Nothing more.

2. All military sites were, and are, off limits to inspections.

3. If we wanted to inspect a site, there is a 24 day application process to go thru before getting onsite.



Iran says military sites are off-limits for nuclear inspections despite U.S. pressure

Iran Deal Limits Inspectors’ Access to Suspicious Sites | Bipartisan Policy Center

The merits of the final deal's verification measures have to be judged on the basis of the authority it gives inspectors to access potential…

bipartisanpolicy.org

 

[meaner gene]

Again, since Barry Hussein got rolled by the Mullahs on the world stage and several military sites are off limits to any inspections, we don't know jack shit about their nuke program.

And it wasn't a treaty, stupid. It was an Executive Order.

No site is "off limits", there are only delays to access. Any nuclear site gets immediate unfettered access. Non-nuclear sites can access DELAYED (but not denied) up to 3 wereks.

And unless you're stupid, you would know you can't hide nuclear activities by removing the machinery, you would have to decommission the building and feet of topsoil to remove traces of nuclear activity.

 

[Anathema]

Bluster might work among the less educated of his base but diplomacy is grown up stuff. If you cant take people with you then you stand alone and impotent. The world needs leadership and the US is playing golf.

I would imagine that most of Americas allies are waiting for November and the return of sanity to the world stage.

A Trump loss in November might mean he losses his grip on Israel’s leash. I’m not sure most of Europe wants to see THAT dog start openly hunting in the Middle East. Mossad and the IDF haven’t really tasted blood flowing free in recent years. They’re hungry.

 

[Nostra]

And letting Iran even think about getting nuclear weapons is the dumbest thing since you morons told us hitler was a good statesman...you twit...

Yet, as the IAEA and european inspectors have proven, Iran isn't even thinking about making a nuclear weapon.

Case closed.

Iran announces it will EXPAND IT'S NUKE PROGRAM.

Once again, you are an idiot.

Iran Will Expand Nuclear Program and Won’t Talk to U.S., Ayatollah Says (Published 2020)

In a televised speech, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, said that negotiating with Washington over his country’s nuclear program would only help President Trump get re-elected.

www.nytimes.com

 

[meaner gene]

Under the treaty, there were not sites that were "off limits"

You are an idiot.

1. It wasn't a treaty, it was an Executive Order. Nothing more.

Non-ratified treaties are still "international treaties" under international law.

They carry the same effect under international law, which is why the UNSC rebuked Trumps last resolution against Iran.

 

[Nostra]

Again, since Barry Hussein got rolled by the Mullahs on the world stage and several military sites are off limits to any inspections, we don't know jack shit about their nuke program.

And it wasn't a treaty, stupid. It was an Executive Order.

No site is "off limits", there are only delays to access. Any nuclear site gets immediate unfettered access. Non-nuclear sites can access DELAYED (but not denied) up to 3 wereks.

And unless you're stupid, you would know you can't hide nuclear activities by removing the machinery, you would have to decommission the building and feet of topsoil to remove traces of nuclear activity.

I just provided links proving you are full of shit.

 

[Nostra]

Under the treaty, there were not sites that were "off limits"

You are an idiot.

1. It wasn't a treaty, it was an Executive Order. Nothing more.

Non-ratified treaties are still "international treaties" under international law.

They carry the same effect under international law, which is why the UNSC rebuked Trumps last resolution against Iran.

Executive Orders are not treaties, Fuckwit.

 

[meaner gene]

Iran Deal Limits Inspectors’ Access to Suspicious Sites | Bipartisan Policy Center

The merits of the final deal's verification measures have to be judged on the basis of the authority it gives inspectors to access potential…

bipartisanpolicy.org

Iran first if they suspect a site might be being used for illicit nuclear activity and then undergoing a long process in order to gain entry to that site. This obstacle to inspections is worrying for several reasons:

• Iran could delay inspectors for as long as 54, not the commonly reported 24, days

54 days is not enough time when nuclear material has a half life of a million years.

This is why you can go to Chernobyl after decades, and detect they had nuclear material there.

You're talking 54 days.

 

[meaner gene]

Iran announces it will EXPAND IT'S NUKE PROGRAM.

Once again, you are an idiot.

Iran Will Expand Nuclear Program and Won’t Talk to U.S., Ayatollah Says (Published 2020)

In a televised speech, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran’s supreme leader, said that negotiating with Washington over his country’s nuclear program would only help President Trump get re-elected.

www.nytimes.com

That it's "civilian nuclear" program, as in making it's own fuel for it's nuclear reactors.

READ the f'n article

 

[meaner gene]

I just provided links proving you are full of shit.

Just the opposite, your own link says they can stall up to 54 days. Off limits means forever.

And 54 days is NOT forever. You;re the one who's full of shit. You are now, and you've always been.

 

[toomuchtime_]

What part of "diplomacy is grown up stuff," includes giving 150 billion dollars in cash to the chief sponsor of international terrorism in the world?

The part of following international law, and obligation the international treaties agreed to.

lol Which laws? Which treaties? Cut the bullshit.

Full list of laws and obligations spelled out here.

The United States, Iran, and $1.7 billion: Sorting out the details | Brookings

What's the real story behind the settlement of a decades-old financial dispute between the United States and Iran?

www.brookings.edu

If you read the article, you know there were no international laws involved and not treaty obligations that were not created by Obama. The Iranian government with which the US had an understanding no longer existed, and the usurper government that now ruled Iran had no diplomatic relations with the US and considered the US the devil and promised to destroy it.

But Obama was a very weak leader and the Iranians led him and his idiot foreign secretary, Kerry, from the bipartisan position that existed into agreeing to bankroll Iran's wars across the ME and ist support for terrorism around the world by handing over this money and by rescuing the Iranian economy that had been devastated by US sanctions, and millions have died in these wars and terrorist attacks Obama bankrolled.

 

[Nostra]

Iran Deal Limits Inspectors’ Access to Suspicious Sites | Bipartisan Policy Center

The merits of the final deal's verification measures have to be judged on the basis of the authority it gives inspectors to access potential…

bipartisanpolicy.org

Iran first if they suspect a site might be being used for illicit nuclear activity and then undergoing a long process in order to gain entry to that site. This obstacle to inspections is worrying for several reasons:

• Iran could delay inspectors for as long as 54, not the commonly reported 24, days

54 days is not enough time when nuclear material has a half life of a million years.

This is why you can go to Chernobyl after decades, and detect they had nuclear material there.

You're talking 54 days.

You claimed unfettered IMMEDIATE inspections of ANY site.

You lied on both counts.

 

[Nostra]

I just provided links proving you are full of shit.

Just the opposite, your own link says they can stall up to 54 days. Off limits means forever.

And 54 days is NOT forever. You;re the one who's full of shit. You are now, and you've always been.

Military sites are off limits forever, idiot.

 

[meaner gene]

Non-ratified treaties are still "international treaties" under international law.

They carry the same effect under international law, which is why the UNSC rebuked Trumps last resolution against Iran.

Executive Orders are not treaties, Fuckwit.

Once more, I have to educate you.

International Agreements and U.S. Law | ASIL

www.asil.org

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Under international law a "treaty" is any international agreement concluded between states or other entities with international personality (such as public international organizations), if the agreement is intended to have international legal effect. The Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties sets out an elaborate set of international law standards for treaties, broadly defined.


A self-executing treaty provision is the supreme law of the land in the same sense as a federal statute that is judicially enforceable by private parties. Even a non-self-executing provision of an international agreement represents an international obligation that courts are very much inclined to protect against encroachment by local, state or federal law.