Is social media silencing the opposition the same as

[OldLady]

We wouldn't need "protected classes" if people would stop discriminating unfairly.
There is nothing wrong with decency and if the law says we shall not discriminate, then the courts will uphold "you shall not discriminate."

People should have a right to do what they want with their private property. Why should YOU decide what THEY do? Why do i have to give up so many rights to open a business? Why should i lose the right to associate freely?
Guess what cupcake, protected class IS DISCRIMINATION. Thanks for proving my point you are arguing with
Why can youtube censor certain people but i have to be forced to bake a cake? Its discrimination because your skin color or nationality is protected but my ideology isnt.
Either get rid of all discrimination laws or COVER everyone and completely decimate individuality. Thats ACTUALLY equal. Picking and choosing who you can discriminate against isnt.
Do you understand now??

Yes. I would like you to tell me who Youtube is discriminating against that upsets you. Specifically. ISIS recruitment videos, or what?

Yes, OL i am complaining about ISIS videos...
DUDE, there articles of youtube doing messed up shit to people simply because they dont like their content.
I would gladly post many examples but you usually leave at that point, or just ignore it. If you promise not to do that i will post some links. There are only like 45K

Seriously, I'd appreciate a couple that are reputable. A couple. I'm here for another two hours.

https://gizmodo.com/former-facebook-workers-we-routinely-suppressed-conser-1775461006
Censorship of Conservatives Out of Control at Twitter, Facebook, YouTube - National Legal & Policy Center

Wow. Good thing we got USMB, huh?
I'm surprised they did that, but I believe you. It doesn't seem right to me--just being on FB or Google doesn't mean you aren't a conservative. Thanks, TN.

 

[bendog]

Are you intentionally being obtuse? Don't you think William Randolph Hearst and Andrew Greeley pushed news for ideology?

The point is transparency. We've lost transparency in knowing who is pushing social media posts and "fake news." That should concern everyone. What we do about it is at this point uncertain. And that is what Zuckerberg is being keelhauled over.

Wasnt greely a novelist? IDK who the other guy is.
How is my question being obtuse? You sit there and bitch about transparency but when i bring up the national media your asshole draws up? Why?

Well you could always google Hearst and/or Greeley. If you don't know who they were, that's not my fault. Nor is there any point in trying to continue discussing the First Amend or Free Speech.

I obviously know greeley is a novelist since i said it...
Of course there isnt. Not with you. Not to mention, this is more about discrimination.
"we lack transparency and its a problem except when cnn or fox makes up bullshit. then you are obtuse"
get the fuck outta here

Greeley and Hearst were media magnets on the scale of Murdoch and Fox. Basically Hearst on the right, and Greeley on the left. Anything the media does today, it did before.

So far,. only Russia (and maybe Trump) have used fake posters to send fake news to facebook users whom they identified as being likely consumers of the fake news. That is new. The Founders based both the First Amendment and views of free speech on citizens being intelligent enough to filter through propaganda when they knew who sent the propaganda. And propaganda comes from EVERY ideological (and religious) position. Citizens United is directly premised on people can decide facts for themselves when they know who "publishes" the facts. Social media is turning on its head our traditional notions of how citizens can rationally decide things.

Social media isn't going anywhere. After all, I'm posting.

Its the same thing our national media does, its just a different way to do it.
So why not complain about the media? Is it because people are just used to it? LOL
What a bunch of bullshit

It's NOT the same thing. That's THE POINT. lol

Nothing like Facebook or social media existed before. When Thomas Paine circulated his pro-revolution pamphlet common sense he didn't use his name, but he had to personally convince printers for fund it.

The national media doesn't, and never has, published yours or my views on an issue.

 

[TNHarley]

a bakery discriminating?
To be fair and have actual equality, we need to make every type of thinking, branding, thought process, want, need or curiosity, to be a "protected class"
Its only fair, right you fake ass equality junkies?
As you know, i believe a business should be able to discriminate for whatever reason. Its THEIR private property.. but to be a proper utopian model, we need to be more inclusive
Tell your state to make EVERYONE a protected class. Its the regressive thing to do.

Taking a stand for decency and morality and basic equality is not "fake ass."

"basic equality" what does that even mean? There is NO equality when we have "protected class" and other forms of institutional discrimination.
Trying to get "morality" legislated is why we had so much discrimination from our govt in the first place.

Protecting a certain class of individuals from exclusionary discrimination is an opposite type of discrimination.

It's not about morality, can't legislate that. It's about equality.

Discrimination isnt equality.

 

[Stormy Daniels]

a bakery discriminating?

Probably not. If the basis of the social media "silencing" is the discriminated individual being a member of a protected class, there could be a comparison.

 

[TNHarley]

a bakery discriminating?

Probably not. If the basis of the social media "silencing" is the discriminated individual being a member of a protected class, there could be a comparison.

duh lol

 

[BluesLegend]

FB decided the two black women who are huge Trump supporters and social media stars, that their page was "threatening" so they silenced it. After appearing on Fox News FB is now shitting themselves over this blatantly partisan decision.

 

[BluesLegend]

Trump has forced this blatant bias out into the open, that's a good thing.

 

[BlindBoo]

a bakery discriminating?
To be fair and have actual equality, we need to make every type of thinking, branding, thought process, want, need or curiosity, to be a "protected class"
Its only fair, right you fake ass equality junkies?
As you know, i believe a business should be able to discriminate for whatever reason. Its THEIR private property.. but to be a proper utopian model, we need to be more inclusive
Tell your state to make EVERYONE a protected class. Its the regressive thing to do.

Taking a stand for decency and morality and basic equality is not "fake ass."

"basic equality" what does that even mean? There is NO equality when we have "protected class" and other forms of institutional discrimination.
Trying to get "morality" legislated is why we had so much discrimination from our govt in the first place.

Protecting a certain class of individuals from exclusionary discrimination is an opposite type of discrimination.

It's not about morality, can't legislate that. It's about equality.

Discrimination isnt equality.

Never said it was.

 

[BlindBoo]

FB decided the two black women who are huge Trump supporters and social media stars, that their page was "threatening" so they silenced it. After appearing on Fox News FB is now shitting themselves over this blatantly partisan decision.

Were they spreading lies an fake news stories and shit or what?

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

I believe I read somewhere that when you enter the public sphere by opening a business, it is no longer "private."

You didn't read that from any legal expert. The business remains private regardless of the method of procuring clientele.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

FB decided the two black women who are huge Trump supporters and social media stars, that their page was "threatening" so they silenced it. After appearing on Fox News FB is now shitting themselves over this blatantly partisan decision.

Facebook should be free to do this bullshit. LIkewise, we should be free to seek or develop alternatives to Facebook and put those fuckers out of business.

 

[Darkwind]

a bakery discriminating?
To be fair and have actual equality, we need to make every type of thinking, branding, thought process, want, need or curiosity, to be a "protected class"
Its only fair, right you fake ass equality junkies?
As you know, i believe a business should be able to discriminate for whatever reason. Its THEIR private property.. but to be a proper utopian model, we need to be more inclusive
Tell your state to make EVERYONE a protected class. It's the regressive thing to do.

Should they be prevented from influencing elections with information, or have we decided that the only influencers of elections will be the 'official' media?

 

[Darkwind]

FB decided the two black women who are huge Trump supporters and social media stars, that their page was "threatening" so they silenced it. After appearing on Fox News FB is now shitting themselves over this blatantly partisan decision.

Were they spreading lies an fake news stories and shit or what?

They were expressing an opinion. Guess that needs to be silenced these days.

 

[BlackSand]

Were they spreading lies an fake news stories and shit or what?

They are entertainers ... And are on the Chit-Chat Tour now.

Facebook, Progressives and YouTube are threatened by two black female entertainers.
Wow ... Good thing Saturday Night Live and most of late night television rows the boat for the left ...
Or we would be watching Sesame Street 24/7.

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