flacaltenn
Diamond Member
Coyote, et al,
Several world leaders, like German Chancellor Angela Merkel, UN Secretary-General Ban-Ki Moon, and US President Barack Obama, indicate that a two-state solution is the best way forward to solve the Israeli-Palestinian. Some believe, particularly Middle East Arabs, that the two-state solution has past its prime and beyond resurrection. A fewer number want a one-state answer and some want an alternative three-state solution. But it is not reasonable to assume that the Israeli government would want to take responsibility for the Arab-Palestinians given the political and economic liability they represent; son it is not likely the Israelis will support a one-stale alternative solution.
“In recent years there is growing pressure on the very core of Israeli democracy,” Ari Shavit (a Senior Correspondent at the left-of-center Israeli newspaper Haaretz) writes, in his book My Promised Land : “Occupation takes its moral toll … Ongoing occupation, ongoing conflict and the disintegrating code of humane Zionism are allowing dark forces to menace the nation.”
The Israelis (being only human) have lost their patience with the Arab Palestinians --- a culture that has pursued the conflict for nearly a century. There is no reasonable expectation that the Arab Palestinians have endeared themselves to the Israelis --- and it is not reasonable to assume, that given all the unnecessary grief the Arab Palestinians have levied towards the Israelis, that the Israelis will ever lend a helping hand to the Palestinians.
Similarly, the Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, is desperately trying to get the UN Human Rights Council and the International Community to act on behalf of the Palestinians, in selectively enforcing action against Israel.
It is very unlikely that the International community is going to engage in armed combat with the Israelis to support the Palestinians who have conducted hostile operations against the Israelis for the last 70 years. It might be possible that the International community will try to influence the acceptance of a two-state solution; but even that is not an assured political stance given the lack of cooperation the Palestinians have demonstrated since 1988.
(COMMENT)I don't usually @ people but I would like to RoccoR - his posts, even when we don't agree are very thoughtful. I wish I could find the thread we had done discussing this several years ago, I searched again, but I think it was a victim of the software change.
In the years since - the situation in the ME has changed enough that I wonder if the two-state solution is even still possible Rocco?
Mahmoud Abbas seems to be a bit annoyed in the Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu mentioning the relationship between Arab Palestinian Leaders like Haj Amin al-Husseini, (Grand Mufti of Jerusalem), Hasan Salama (Commander of the Holy War Army) and Fawzi al-Qawuqji (Commander Arab Liberation Army) with the NAZI Regime. Abbas was suggesting that the Arab Palestinians were Lilly White in their relationship with the NAZIs. Neither side is attempting to set the conditions for good faith negotiations that could lead to a two-state solution. And it is not likely that the Israel will accept a UN imposed settlement.
So, I believe, at this time, negotiations between the two parties is not a reasonable expectation. And it might be the case that the desperate effort on the part of Mahmoud Abbas is in anticipation that he will not be in power very much longer.
Most Respectfully,
R
No doubt this occupation has gone badly. Every one does after a few years. And it's toll is largely on Israel's morality image as your quote says. But Israel could go another 50 years with this internal irritation that passes for Pali "resistance".
The role of US in a solution is really hobbled here, because almost ALL credible solutions I can think of -- don't allow a US prez or political party to take the credit. Not gonna happen at Camp David anymore. So no politician in America cares to participate in the hard work to be done..
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