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All over the entire world indigenous populations were overridden by invadors. Fact is that any land belongs to whoever rules it at any given period of time. So what is your point here?
I've never said that anything was "Palestinian". But people (whatever their nationality at the time) did live there and were forced out, or do you deny this?
It is inadmissible to acquire land through the threat or use of force.
It has been that way for close to a hundred years. It was not like that in 1492. Times change.
Fact is that all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force whereby the indigenous populations had to convert, leave or be killed. And all three options took place under the rule of peaceful Islam.
All over the entire world indigenous populations were overridden by invadors. Fact is that any land belongs to whoever rules it at any given period of time. So what is your point here?
OMG! You mean Israel is stealing Palestinian land? I hate land theives & could never support such people. So tell me, when did Israel's ancient land become this "Palestinian" land that Israel is now stealing?
I've never said that anything was "Palestinian". But people (whatever their nationality at the time) did live there and were forced out, or do you deny this?
Fact is that all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force whereby the indigenous populations had to convert, leave or be killed. And all three options took place under the rule of peaceful Islam.
And through all that there was a core population who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built their country and have the right to keep it.
When the first Zionist conference met in 1897, Palestine was a neglected wasteland
I first saw Palestine in 1939. There the neglect and ruin left by centuries of Ottoman [Muslim] misrule were slowly being transformed by miracles of [Jewish] labor and sacrifice. But Palestine was still a land of promise in 1939, rather than a land of fulfillment. I returned in 1951 to see the grandeur of Israel
I left with the conviction that the United Nations may have conferred on Israel the credentials of nationhood; but its own idealism and courage, its own sacrifice and generosity, had earned the credentials of immortality.
Israel was not created in order to disappear - Israel will endure and flourish. It is the child of hope and the home of the brave. It can neither be broken by adversity nor demoralized by success. It carries the shield of democracy and it honors the sword of freedom; and no area of the world has ever had an overabundance of democracy and freedom.
It is worth remembering, too, that Israel is a cause that stands beyond the ordinary changes and chances of American public life. In our pluralistic society, it has not been a Jewish cause - any more than Irish independence was solely the concern of Americans of Irish descent. The ideals of Zionism have, in the last half century, been repeatedly endorsed by Presidents and Members of Congress from both parties. Friendship for Israel is not a partisan matter. It is a national commitment.
The original Zionist philosophy has always maintained that the people of Israel would use their national genius not for selfish purposes but for the enrichment and glory of the entire Middle East. The earliest leaders of the Zionist movement spoke of a Jewish state which would have no military power and which would be content with victories of the spirit
The technical skills and genius of Israel have already brought their blessings to Burma and to Ethiopia. Still other nations in Asia and in Africa are eager to benefit from the special skills available in that bustling land
John F. Kennedy: Speech by Senator John F. Kennedy, Zionists of America Convention, Statler Hilton Hotel, New York, NY
Fact is that all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force whereby the indigenous populations had to convert, leave or be killed. And all three options took place under the rule of peaceful Islam.
And through all that there was a core population who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built their country and have the right to keep it.
Excellent Tinmore. How proud of you I am. Bring back the few remaining Persian Zoroastrians to once again rule their land stolen by the Muslims.
[/QUOTE]Fact is that all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force whereby the indigenous populations had to convert, leave or be killed. And all three options took place under the rule of peaceful Islam.
And through all that there was a core population who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built their country and have the right to keep it.
[/QUOTE]Excellent Tinmore. How proud of you I am. Bring back the few remaining Persian Zoroastrians to once again rule their land stolen by the Muslims.
Well, to be fair to Tinhead, he hasn't mastered the full alphabet which would further hinder his knowledge of Zoroastrians.
Fact is that all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force whereby the indigenous populations had to convert, leave or be killed. And all three options took place under the rule of peaceful Islam.
And through all that there was a core population who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built their country and have the right to keep it.
Quote: Originally Posted by P F Tinmore
And through all that there was a core population who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built their country and have the right to keep it
Brothers, there are 1.8 million of us in Gaza. Allah be praised, we all have Arab roots and every Palestinian in Gaza and throughout Palestine can prove his Arab roots--whether from Saudi Arabia, from Yemen, or anywhere.
Personally, half my family is Egyptian. We are all like that.
More than 30 families in the Gaza Strip are called Al-Masri [Egyptian]
Brothers, half of the Palestiniains are Egyptians and the other half are Saudis
Who are the Palestinians? we have many families called Al-Masri, whose roots are Egyptian. Egyptian! They may be from Alexandria, from Cairo, from Dumietta, from the North, from aswan, from Upper Egypt. We are Egyptians. we are Arabs. We are Muslims
http://www.memri.org/clip/en/0/0/0/0/0/0/3389.htm
When the first Zionist conference met in 1897, Palestine was a neglected wasteland
I first saw Palestine in 1939. There the neglect and ruin left by centuries of Ottoman [Muslim] misrule were slowly being transformed by miracles of [Jewish] labor and sacrifice. But Palestine was still a land of promise in 1939, rather than a land of fulfillment. I returned in 1951 to see the grandeur of Israel
I left with the conviction that the United Nations may have conferred on Israel the credentials of nationhood; but its own idealism and courage, its own sacrifice and generosity, had earned the credentials of immortality.
Israel was not created in order to disappear - Israel will endure and flourish. It is the child of hope and the home of the brave. It can neither be broken by adversity nor demoralized by success. It carries the shield of democracy and it honors the sword of freedom; and no area of the world has ever had an overabundance of democracy and freedom.
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/index.php?pid=74217#axzz1S92dTMKN
Palestinians "built"? Palestinians are prone to lay a scunion on just about everything they touch. Sorry.Fact is that all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force whereby the indigenous populations had to convert, leave or be killed. And all three options took place under the rule of peaceful Islam.
And through all that there was a core population who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built their country and have the right to keep it.
Palestinians "built"? Palestinians are prone to lay a scunion on just about everything they touch. Sorry.Fact is that all Muslim lands are stolen lands conquered by force whereby the indigenous populations had to convert, leave or be killed. And all three options took place under the rule of peaceful Islam.
And through all that there was a core population who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built their country and have the right to keep it.
Shangri La?What is the country Palestinians built according to Tinmore?
Palestinians "built"? Palestinians are prone to lay a scunion on just about everything they touch. Sorry.And through all that there was a core population who stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built their country and have the right to keep it.
Shangri La?What is the country Palestinians built according to Tinmore?
Palestinians "built"? Palestinians are prone to lay a scunion on just about everything they touch. Sorry.
Iran, Israel attend secret nuclear meet in Cairo - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel NewsWhy perpetrate the lie about a secret meeting for most of a day after your Talkback censors knew it was false? To continue publishing what you have been proven to be a lie, is to lie. So Haaretz is either a willing liar, a supplicant to liars, or a craven supplicant to liars - or, perhaps worst of all, a craven who knows it lies, could admit it, and lacks the guts. Which is it, and why does, Haaretz consider it necessary to lie? Is it simply because Haaretz lacks the sense to do a fact check? Is it because Haaretz is dedicated to the Likud goal of starting a war? Is it because Haaretz is simply incompetent as a news source? What other possible reason is there? Too lazy to check anything out? Which is the Haaretz brand of incompetence or malice? Or simply a government with the power of censorship and no morals? In any case, Haaretz has failed Israel, honesty and the world.
Jos=querulous
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Iran, Israel attend secret nuclear meet in Cairo - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel NewsWhy perpetrate the lie about a secret meeting for most of a day after your Talkback censors knew it was false? To continue publishing what you have been proven to be a lie, is to lie. So Haaretz is either a willing liar, a supplicant to liars, or a craven supplicant to liars - or, perhaps worst of all, a craven who knows it lies, could admit it, and lacks the guts. Which is it, and why does, Haaretz consider it necessary to lie? Is it simply because Haaretz lacks the sense to do a fact check? Is it because Haaretz is dedicated to the Likud goal of starting a war? Is it because Haaretz is simply incompetent as a news source? What other possible reason is there? Too lazy to check anything out? Which is the Haaretz brand of incompetence or malice? Or simply a government with the power of censorship and no morals? In any case, Haaretz has failed Israel, honesty and the world.
* Published 22.10.09
Iran, Israel attend secret nuclear meet in Cairo - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel NewsWhy perpetrate the lie about a secret meeting for most of a day after your Talkback censors knew it was false? To continue publishing what you have been proven to be a lie, is to lie. So Haaretz is either a willing liar, a supplicant to liars, or a craven supplicant to liars - or, perhaps worst of all, a craven who knows it lies, could admit it, and lacks the guts. Which is it, and why does, Haaretz consider it necessary to lie? Is it simply because Haaretz lacks the sense to do a fact check? Is it because Haaretz is dedicated to the Likud goal of starting a war? Is it because Haaretz is simply incompetent as a news source? What other possible reason is there? Too lazy to check anything out? Which is the Haaretz brand of incompetence or malice? Or simply a government with the power of censorship and no morals? In any case, Haaretz has failed Israel, honesty and the world.
From your linkEh, Jos! For your education, the meeting was confirmed by the Egyptian Foreign Ministry & all attendents plus the meeting place have been provided. What is it about documented facts that so troubles you?
* Published 22.10.09
Iran, Israel attend secret nuclear meet in Cairo - Haaretz Daily Newspaper | Israel NewsWhy perpetrate the lie about a secret meeting for most of a day after your Talkback censors knew it was false? To continue publishing what you have been proven to be a lie, is to lie. So Haaretz is either a willing liar, a supplicant to liars, or a craven supplicant to liars - or, perhaps worst of all, a craven who knows it lies, could admit it, and lacks the guts. Which is it, and why does, Haaretz consider it necessary to lie? Is it simply because Haaretz lacks the sense to do a fact check? Is it because Haaretz is dedicated to the Likud goal of starting a war? Is it because Haaretz is simply incompetent as a news source? What other possible reason is there? Too lazy to check anything out? Which is the Haaretz brand of incompetence or malice? Or simply a government with the power of censorship and no morals? In any case, Haaretz has failed Israel, honesty and the world.
Israeli and Iranian representatives recently took part in a conference in Cairo on nuclear non-proliferation in the Middle East, the Israel Atomic Energy Commission (IAEC) said Thursday, but Tehran said the report on the meeting was untrue.
IAEC Spokeswoman Yael Doron, said, however that "no dialogue or interaction" between the Israeli and Iranian representatives took place at the meeting in Cairo in September. She gave no further details.
Iran however dismissed the report, with the spokesman for the Iranian Atomic Organization (IAO) telling the website of state television that "The reports in this regard are sheer lies and there has been no meeting in Cairo."
