Israeli Army Forces Enter Gaza, Open Fire On Palestinian Farmers

[toastman]

Excellent post Rocco. I have, on many occassions posted those attacks against Jews that you did to show the deluded pro Palestinians who really started the violence. Their excuse is always that those attacks were justified resistance because the Jews were trying to take over their 'country'. But when Jewish attacks against Arabs are brought up, they are made out to be initial agression .

That's because Palestinian-Jews and Palestinian-Arabs lived for century's in that area side-by-side, peacefully, with no recorded events of major violence between the two groups, until the Zionist migration at the turn of the last century.

That pretty much proves Zionists imported the violence along with their illegal immigration into the area.

It is called returning to the homeland, and they were invited by the ottoman and arab leaders.

No, it's called an invasion from another continent. People from Europe do not have a homeland in the Middle East.

Uhhhh, most Americans are of European heritage.

Yes, how quickly you are catching on.

You said people of European heritage do not have a homeland in the Middle East. But you always pick on Israel because of your hate.
BTW, 45%-50% of Israeli Jews are from the Middle East and north Africa.

 

[docmauser1]

[yawn] What about our arab settler-squatter "sheiks" and their sheikanigans, bth?

The squatters are the Jews.

Arab settlers-squatters, calling others settlers. Isn't that funny?

The Jews from Europe are the squatters, the Muslims and Christians were living in Palestine for generations by definition can't be squatters. It's simple logic.

"So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the
country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."
Winnie Churchill knew his settling-squatting arabs, of course.

 

[montelatici]

That's because Palestinian-Jews and Palestinian-Arabs lived for century's in that area side-by-side, peacefully, with no recorded events of major violence between the two groups, until the Zionist migration at the turn of the last century.

That pretty much proves Zionists imported the violence along with their illegal immigration into the area.

It is called returning to the homeland, and they were invited by the ottoman and arab leaders.

No, it's called an invasion from another continent. People from Europe do not have a homeland in the Middle East.

Uhhhh, most Americans are of European heritage.

Yes, how quickly you are catching on.

You said people of European heritage do not have a homeland in the Middle East. But you always pick on Israel because of your hate.
BTW, 45%-50% of Israeli Jews are from the Middle East and north Africa.

The Jews that invaded were from Europe. North Africa is on another continent. The Europeans committed the same crimes in the Americas. The invaded and expelled and/or put in camps (reservations) most of he people that were living in the Americas.

 

[montelatici]

[yawn] What about our arab settler-squatter "sheiks" and their sheikanigans, bth?

The squatters are the Jews.

Arab settlers-squatters, calling others settlers. Isn't that funny?

The Jews from Europe are the squatters, the Muslims and Christians were living in Palestine for generations by definition can't be squatters. It's simple logic.

"So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the
country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."
Winnie Churchill knew his settling-squatting arabs, of course.

Do you have a source document that confirms that Churchill actually said that. Not a newspaper article and the like, but a source document as below.

In any case Churchill wanted to get the Jews out of Europe and did not want Labour to restrict immigration. His statement did not reflect fact just a political ploy using a lie.

The fact is:

AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE, during the period 1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921. AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE.
​

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

 

[montelatici]

Keep it up. the more I get to post the fact and the source document the more thinking people will begin to realize that almost everything the believe is Israeli propaganda.

 

[Phoenall]

Radio Havana? WTF kind of bogus source is that??

Do pro Palestinians really expect us to believe that Israel just drives up to farmers and shoot at them for absolutely no reason whatsoever??

Listen you fucking dumbass, that's exactly what we believe! And that's exactly what they do!



How many times do you have to be shown this shit, before you have the balls to admit it?

You deluded pro Palestinians believe ANYTHING you read about Israel, as long as it's negative. You're being taken to the cleaners and you don't even realize it. It's not my failt you're all a bunch of brainwashed sheep.

It is you that have been brainwashed. Propaganda in the U.S. is all pro-Israel starting from elementary school. Any of us that have been able to resist brainwashing are the opposite of you and your brainwashed clowns.

By the way, will you believe Jewish media?

"Twelve military vehicles entered the Gaza strip on Wednesday in the Khan Younis district, witnesses told the Ma’an news gaency.........Ma’an reported that a Palestinian farmer was shot and injured.."



"IDF Convoy Enters Gaza Shoots to Discourage Arab Interference 8211 Jewish Business News

Again Monti, anyone who reads your or any of the other pro Palestinian sources can see who is brainwashed. Day after day you spew the same deluded crap.
You are a propaganda machine, so you really have no right to call anyone else brainwshed. Keep distorting history deluded sheep.
BTW, my entire family lives in Israel and I have been there over ten times in 29 years. I see the picture a lot better than idiot pro Palestinians who can't comprehend that you real what you sow

Of course, your family is part of the colonial enterprise and so you see the picture "a lot better". That's like saying the European settlers saw the picture "a lot better" as they were murdering Native Americans. It would have been better if you kept your mouth shut, clown. Now we know where you are coming from. You are not a neutral, you are an ideologue. I am a European Catholic a neutral observer.

Stop LYING, the rules prevent me from posting the evidence that shows you to be a muslim man posting on his convert wifes account or I would belittle you so much you would not dare show your face here ever again.

 

[Phoenall]

You deluded pro Palestinians believe ANYTHING you read about Israel, as long as it's negative. You're being taken to the cleaners and you don't even realize it. It's not my failt you're all a bunch of brainwashed sheep.

It is you that have been brainwashed. Propaganda in the U.S. is all pro-Israel starting from elementary school. Any of us that have been able to resist brainwashing are the opposite of you and your brainwashed clowns.

By the way, will you believe Jewish media?

"Twelve military vehicles entered the Gaza strip on Wednesday in the Khan Younis district, witnesses told the Ma’an news gaency.........Ma’an reported that a Palestinian farmer was shot and injured.."



"IDF Convoy Enters Gaza Shoots to Discourage Arab Interference 8211 Jewish Business News

Again Monti, anyone who reads your or any of the other pro Palestinian sources can see who is brainwashed. Day after day you spew the same deluded crap.
You are a propaganda machine, so you really have no right to call anyone else brainwshed. Keep distorting history deluded sheep.
BTW, my entire family lives in Israel and I have been there over ten times in 29 years. I see the picture a lot better than idiot pro Palestinians who can't comprehend that you real what you sow

Of course, your family is part of the colonial enterprise and so you see the picture "a lot better". That's like saying the European settlers saw the picture "a lot better" as they were murdering Native Americans. It would have been better if you kept your mouth shut, clown. Now we know where you are coming from. You are not a neutral, you are an ideologue. I am a European Catholic a neutral observer.

Colonialists LOL! You're too much for me. Since you seem to know so much about my family, tell me where most of them came from please moron.
I don't want you to keep your mouth shut, because I want people to see what a brainwashdd Palestinian fool you are.
And you're a Muslim, we all know that already. Don't lie, even though it's part of your religion.

What else can you call people that leave one continent and settle on another and expel the people that were living there?

I am a practicing Roman Catholic, and have received all the Sacraments but one, but there would be no shame in being a Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist or whatever religion.

why they would be muslims wouldn't they. The Jews were invited and only expelled those they were allowed to expel under International law. They could have executed them and then claimed the arab armies did it, and the world would be none the wiser. Isn't that what your fellow ISLAMONAZI TERRORIST SCUM did to the Christians of Palestine just recently ?

 

[aris2chat]

It is called returning to the homeland, and they were invited by the ottoman and arab leaders.

No, it's called an invasion from another continent. People from Europe do not have a homeland in the Middle East.

Uhhhh, most Americans are of European heritage.

Yes, how quickly you are catching on.

You said people of European heritage do not have a homeland in the Middle East. But you always pick on Israel because of your hate.
BTW, 45%-50% of Israeli Jews are from the Middle East and north Africa.

The Jews that invaded were from Europe. North Africa is on another continent. The Europeans committed the same crimes in the Americas. The invaded and expelled and/or put in camps (reservations) most of he people that were living in the Americas.

There was no invasion. Jews from MENA and europe migrated. They bought land, some of which was swampy and unwanted. There was more than enough room as stated in many of the documented posts. A fraction of population at the time of the romans. Jews came as refugees from the WWII. They came to develop the land and invest to create jobs, jobs for the arabs as well.
It was in the mosques the slander and hate from the mufti (even the british who appointed him threw him out.)

Jews built a nation. Sadly the palestinians that left or moved have destroyed. Arabs that stayed are Israelis with all the rights and freedoms.

Half the the arabs left at the urging of the arab states that were about to invade, others left after the fighting began. Only a small number were "forced" out because of terrorism ties. The rest stayed and became Israelis with all the rights and freedoms. Most rights and freedoms that their arab neighbors.

Jews did not invade, but the arab states did capturing and occupying land that might have been part of palestinian state. Arabs at the UN refused a palestinian state when it was proposed.

 

[Phoenall]

[yawn] What about our arab settler-squatter "sheiks" and their sheikanigans, bth?

The squatters are the Jews.

Arab settlers-squatters, calling others settlers. Isn't that funny?

The Jews from Europe are the squatters, the Muslims and Christians were living in Palestine for generations by definition can't be squatters. It's simple logic.

"So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the
country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."
Winnie Churchill knew his settling-squatting arabs, of course.

Do you have a source document that confirms that Churchill actually said that. Not a newspaper article and the like, but a source document as below.

In any case Churchill wanted to get the Jews out of Europe and did not want Labour to restrict immigration. His statement did not reflect fact just a political ploy using a lie.

The fact is:

AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE, during the period 1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921. AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE.
​

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.

The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Will Hansard do then, the official publication of the house of commons.

Mr Winston Churchill speeches in 1939 Hansard

 

[Phoenall]

Keep it up. the more I get to post the fact and the source document the more thinking people will begin to realize that almost everything the believe is Israeli propaganda.

And the more you show that you don't understand what "source documents" mean at the end of the day. You being a muslims that has to use another persons internet account because you cant get one yourself.

 

[docmauser1]

AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE, during the period 1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921. AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE.
​

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.
The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Hilarious! So, year 1921, and Transjordan is still part of the mandate palestine, 75% of it! Our honorable montelatici should excercise harder, harder!

 

[toastman]

It is called returning to the homeland, and they were invited by the ottoman and arab leaders.

No, it's called an invasion from another continent. People from Europe do not have a homeland in the Middle East.

Uhhhh, most Americans are of European heritage.

Yes, how quickly you are catching on.

You said people of European heritage do not have a homeland in the Middle East. But you always pick on Israel because of your hate.
BTW, 45%-50% of Israeli Jews are from the Middle East and north Africa.

The Jews that invaded were from Europe. North Africa is on another continent. The Europeans committed the same crimes in the Americas. The invaded and expelled and/or put in camps (reservations) most of he people that were living in the Americas.

You keep ignoring the fact that the British in ites the European Jews to immigrate. You know what that means Monti? It means that there was no invasion.
It's that simple.

 

[toastman]

AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE, during the period 1st JULY, 1920--30th JUNE, 1921. AN INTERIM REPORT ON THE CIVIL ADMINISTRATION OF PALESTINE.
​

"There are now in the whole of Palestine hardly 700,000 people, a population much less than that of the province of Gallilee alone in the time of Christ.* (*See Sir George Adam Smith "Historical Geography of the Holy Land", Chap. 20.) Of these 235,000 live in the larger towns, 465,000 in the smaller towns and villages. Four-fifths of the whole population are Moslems. A small proportion of these are Bedouin Arabs; the remainder, although they speak Arabic and are termed Arabs, are largely of mixed race. Some 77,000 of the population are Christians, in large majority belonging to the Orthodox Church, and speaking Arabic. The minority are members of the Latin or of the Uniate Greek Catholic Church, or--a small number--are Protestants.
The Jewish element of the population numbers 76,000. Almost all have entered Palestine during the last 40 years. Prior to 1850 there were in the country only a handful of Jews. - See more at: Mandate for Palestine - Interim report of the Mandatory to the League of Nations Balfour Declaration text 30 July 1921

Hilarious! So, year 1921, and Transjordan is still part of the mandate palestine, 75% of it! Our honorable montelatici should excercise harder, harder!

He's becoming worse than Tinmore when it comes to distorting history!

 

[Grendelyn]

How many times do you have to be shown this shit, before you have the balls to admit it?

We don't use shit.

Is this why you keep giving it to others?

 

[Kondor3]

Earlier there was a report of Israel shooting at Palestinian fisherman. Now there is another Israeli attack in spite of a cease fire.
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Gaza City, October 2 (RHC)-- Israeli army vehicles have entered the southern Gaza Strip and soldiers opened fire on Palestinian agricultural areas in a flagrant violation of a recent ceasefire agreement.

According to reports, at least a dozen Israeli military vehicles entered Gaza from a gate east of the southern city of Khan Yunis on Wednesday, crossing some 200 meters into the Palestinian territory.

Israeli soldiers then fired shots on Palestinian farms. Witnesses say the assault, which occurred in the early morning, forced agricultural workers to leave their lands. No injuries have been reported so far.

Earlier this week, Israeli military forces shot and injured a Palestinian farmer in northern Gaza near a fence separating Israeli-occupied territories from the blockaded coastal enclave. An Israeli military spokesperson claimed the farmer had come too close to the border fence.

Radio Havana Cuba Israeli Army Forces Enter Gaza Open Fire on Palestinian Farmers

What was the provacation that caused the IDF to react, Pinmore?

I don't know.

Isn't it your job to give Israel's excuses?

Perhaps you would do better to gain an understanding of why IDF forces crossed over the line, before commencing your rock-throwing?

 

[aris2chat]

Excellent post Rocco. I have, on many occassions posted those attacks against Jews that you did to show the deluded pro Palestinians who really started the violence. Their excuse is always that those attacks were justified resistance because the Jews were trying to take over their 'country'. But when Jewish attacks against Arabs are brought up, they are made out to be initial agression .

That's because Palestinian-Jews and Palestinian-Arabs lived for century's in that area side-by-side, peacefully, with no recorded events of major violence between the two groups, until the Zionist migration at the turn of the last century.

That pretty much proves Zionists imported the violence along with their illegal immigration into the area.

It is called returning to the homeland, and they were invited by the ottoman and arab leaders.

No, it's called an invasion from another continent. People from Europe do not have a homeland in the Middle East.

Jordan, Iraq, Egypt and Syria invaded, occupied and mistreated the palestinians o the land they they captured.

 

[toastman]

Keep it up. the more I get to post the fact and the source document the more thinking people will begin to realize that almost everything the believe is Israeli propaganda.

HAHAHAHA
I have refuted all of your lies Monti.

You remind me of Palestinians; always claiming victory when you have clearly lost.
And again, you cannot accuse others of posting propaganda when you do it all day

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Well, you make a stab at it --- but, unpersuasive and often misinterpreted in both fact and relevance.

Keep it up. the more I get to post the fact and the source document the more thinking people will begin to realize that almost everything the believe is Israeli propaganda.

(COMMENT)

Most of the time, you keep reaching back to an era of more than half a century ago; much like our friend P F Tinmore. In your most recent posts, you've reached back even a century ago. For whatever that is worth, you don't think like the key decision makers of that time period. Yes! there are documents that present opposing views. But in the end, the convening authority (the League of Nations and the successor United Nations) made a series of decisions that lead to the Partition of the the former Mandate [GA/RES/181(II)]. And, the convening authority understood the complaints and issues of both sides of the equation (Israeli-Palestinian) of the day. They were painfully clear. All that is important from that decision is --- the Arab Palestinian did everything it could to undermine that decision.

All the subsequent conflicts were directly related to the absolute defiance to authority and pledge of conflict by the Arab Palestinians and the neighboring Arab States formed out of the various segments of Mandates. And that defiance and pledge to conflict triggered a series of events that lead us to the successful Jewish State of Israel and the failed and unproductive Arab State of Palestine.

Today, the "Question of Palestine" (as it was labeled nearly a century ago) is how to establish regional peace between the Jewish State of Israel (in favor of peace and tranquility) and the Arab Palestinian quasi-State (in favor of Jihad and Conflict) which is still resisting the Partition Plan. Since that time [when the Jewish Agency completed the "Step Preparatory to Independence" and implemented GA/RES/181(II)] the Arab Palestinian has demonstrated a flagrant disregard and depraved indifference to peace, authority, and human life. While it can be said that the Arab Palestinian had (past tense) some legitimate grievances --- they have been over shadowed by events of their own making; having conducted the Olympic Massacre, numerous airline hijackings, piracy operations at sea, suicide bombings, kidnappings, various terrorist attacks, and tens of thousands - rocket and mortar attacks. (The root of the word Islam is “peace!”)

It becomes even more difficult to even consider the Arab Palestinian of today as a culture of values, both through positive moral education and encouragement; wherein the Arab Palestinian are NOT Muslims which treat people with kindness and mercy, and are tolerant and fair. They are not --- and have not been since before the 1929 Riots in Jerusalem --- Muslims that embrace diversity and strive to “walk upon the earth in humility” (Qur'an 25:63).

GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip (AP) — Gaza's Hamas authorities have blocked a U.N. refugee agency from introducing textbooks promoting human rights into local schools, saying it ignores Palestinian cultural mores and focuses too heavily on "peaceful" means of conflict resolution.
... ... ...
The group also objected to the books' inclusion of the "Universal Declaration of Human Rights," a document approved by the U.N. General Assembly in 1948 that recognizes "the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family." Hamas believes that certain parts of the declaration violate Islamic law, including the right of people of different faiths to marry and the right to change one's religion.
SOURCE: By IBRAHIM BARZAK | Associated Press – Thu, Feb 13, 2014

No matter what you post today, about your interpretation of what happened 5, 8, or 10 Generations ago, what is important is what is happening today and the character of the Palestinian today. And you must remember, just as HAMAS insists, that Arab Palestinian can not focus on accepted concepts of Universal Human Rights.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[Billo_Really]

Perhaps you would do better to gain an understanding of why IDF forces crossed over the line, before commencing your rock-throwing?

Because they're pieces of shit whose word isn't worth crap!

 

[Kondor3]

Perhaps you would do better to gain an understanding of why IDF forces crossed over the line, before commencing your rock-throwing?

Because they're pieces of shit whose word isn't worth crap!

Yes, yes, yes... very nice, I"m sure... thank you for playing.