It was 20 years ago that Congress passed the surplus creating budget

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Remember, we had massive deficits from the Reagan and Bush administrations?

Republicans said Clinton's budget would create a massive recession, destroy jobs, slow the economy, and was a total job destroyer. Those were the predictions by the GOP.

Not one Republican voted for the bill. 216 to 218 in the house.

The tax rate was raised on people making over $200,000 a year or 1.9% of the US population to 39%.

One year later, unemployment had dropped a full percentage point.

The economy did not slow.

Jobs weren't destroyed.

Not long after that, unemployment dropped to below 4%.

And the country was on the road to a surplus.

But Republicans learned a valuable lesson. They learned they could state only the facts they wanted and if they stayed unified, they could scare America into doing anything.

The next election, Democrats lost both the house and the senate. But the damage had been done. The US was on the road to prosperity. And it took George W. Bush's election and the continued control of both houses by the Republicans enabling them to put their deficit creating policies into place by using reconciliation three times. Policies that included massive tax cuts for the wealthy. The war on the poor. Wars without funding. The redistribution of the wealth from the middle class to the top 1%. No bid contracts.

For 6 years, Republicans held both the house and the senate. For the last two years of those six, they controlled the senate through a historic number of filibusters. Everything that was done under that first Clinton budget has been virtually destroyed.

And how do Republicans respond about being wrong about everything? First, about how wrong they were with Clinton's first budget and second, how wrong they were about all their dreadful policies under Bush?

They don't. They won't discuss them and for them, it's worked.
 
And here's what the Republicans assured us would happen:

In 1993, Republicans Said Clinton Tax Increase On Rich Would Lead To A ?Recession? ? The Economy Boomed Instead ? Progressive Change Campaign Committee (PCCC)

THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION: Heritage, the go-to think tank for the Republican Party, argued that the tax increase would somehow lead to “higher deficits” and that it served as a “recipe for a recession.” The organization also predicted that the tax increase would “destroy jobs” and “undermine America’s international competitiveness.”

REPRESENTATIVE JOHN BOEHNER (R-OH): “The problem in not that we do not tax enough, it is that Government spends too much. The President has reverted to true form, that of a tax and spend, old-time Democrat. He has abandoned tens of millions of middle-class voters that trusted him. Raising taxes on the middle class is not patriotic, it is idiotic.” (From the Congressional Record on February 17th, 1993)

SENATOR ORRIN HATCH (R-UT): ”Mr. President, taxpayers will adjust to these new taxes by shifting investments into ones that generate fewer taxes by working less and by taking fewer risks. The consequences will punish far more than just the wealthy. Economic growth will slow and fewer jobs will be created.” (From the Congressional Record on August 6th, 1993)

SENATOR MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY): This package contains the largest tax increase in history, and promises deficit reduction. This package will not reduce the Federal debt, or even balance one annual budget for that matter. (From the Congressional Record on August 6th, 1993)

SENATOR CHUCK GRASSLEY (R-IA):
Mr. President, I really do not think it takes a rocket scientist to know this bill will cost jobs. (From the Congressional Record on August 6th, 1993)

REPRESENTATIVE PETE HOEKSTRA (R-MI): ”Mr. Speaker, I hear, once again, like 1989, claims that by increasing taxes we will be able to shrink the deficit and fund new programs. But as history has shown us over and over, the only result of more taxes is more spending and bigger Government. Let us cut spending, not raise taxes.” (From the Congressional Record on March 16th, 1993)

REPRESENTATIVE BILL ARCHER (R-TX): ”I would much rather be here today supporting the President and I would do so if his proposals could expect to increase jobs and the standard of living for Americans, but I believe his massive tax increases will do just the opposite.” (From the Congressional Record on May 24th, 1993)

REPRESENTATIVE NEWT GINGRICH: ”I believe that that will in fact kill the current recovery
and put us back in a recession.
It might take 1 and a half or 2 years, but it will happen.” (From the Congressional Record on February 2nd, 1993)

REPRESENTATIVE PHIL CRANE (R-IL): ”President Clinton has been trying to sell his plan to the American people by claiming that it will create both tax fairness and economic growth. However, history proves that the tax increases which the President advocates will actually stifle economic expansion and the creation of jobs.” (From the Congressional Record on March 16th, 1993)

REPRESENTATIVE JIM SAXTON (R-NJ): “A tax is a tax is a tax; it does not matter what we call it. One might ask, when is enough enough. Tax increases did not work in 1986 or in 1990 to help our economy grow.” (From the Congressional Record on February 16th, 1993)

SENATOR DON NICKLES (R-OK): This tax bill…will not get the deficit down. What it will do is it will give him a lot of new money to spend. We will pass a National Service Program tonight. It is going to cost billions of dollars…There is no deficit reduction in this bill. (From the Congressional Record on August 6th, 1993)

REPRESENTATIVE CURT WELDON (R-PA): ”I spoke with the chief financial officer of Owosso, George Lemmon, Jr., and he told me: `These taxes will mean that we will take fewer risks, we will make fewer investments, and we will have less working capital.’ What does that mean? It means lower economic growth and fewer jobs.” (From the Congressional Record on July 15th, 1993)

REPRESENTATIVE WILLIAM BAKER (R-CA): “Just when the economy is emerging from a recession caused in part by high taxes
the President
proposes to slam the brakes on the recovery with his tax bill.
This tax package will reduce productivity and consumption , which will slow down a gradually recovering economy and
cause another recession.” (From the Congressional Record on June 9th, 1993)

REPRESENTATIVE CHRISTOPHER COX (R-CA): “This is really the Dr. Kevorkian plan for our economy. It will kill jobs, kill businesses, and yes, kill even the higher tax revenues that these suicidal tax increasers hope to gain.” (From the Congressional Record on May 27th, 1993)

REPRESENTATIVE BOB GOODLATTE (R-VA): “Small businesses generate the bulk of this Nation’s new jobs . And they will be the hardest hit by the Clinton tax-and-spend budget. Because , when you raise taxes , you killjobs . When you raise taxes , consumer prices inevitably rise, demand falls off, and small businesses begin to collapse.” (From the Congressional Record on July 13th, 1993)
 
Clinton didnt "pass" anything. Budgets are passed by Congress. Who ran COngress during those years? Yeah, the GOP.
Don't mention it, RDean.
Another fail thread.
 
It was 20 years ago when some Democrats and their voters were SANE...today not so much

there's that being a Progressive, living in the past regressing
 
Clinton didnt "pass" anything. Budgets are passed by Congress. Who ran COngress during those years? Yeah, the GOP.
Don't mention it, RDean.
Another fail thread.

I guess you missed the part 216 to 218 without a single Republican voting for the Clinton budget?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/306500-which-party-is-mainly-responsible-for-the-mess.html

Lucky, on this other thread, they linked to who held the house and senate in 1993 Now don't you feel better to know the truth?
 
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Clinton didnt "pass" anything. Budgets are passed by Congress. Who ran COngress during those years? Yeah, the GOP.
Don't mention it, RDean.
Another fail thread.

I guess you missed the part 216 to 218 without a single Republican voting for the Clinton budget?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/306500-which-party-is-mainly-responsible-for-the-mess.html

Lucky, on this other thread, they linked to who held the house and senate in 1993 Now don't you feel better to know the truth?
I guess you missed the part where THERE WAS NO SURPLUS!

But you go right ahead and be a good little liberal...keep the LIE alive!:cuckoo:
 
Liberals-Democrats can't seem to live or tell the TRUTH these days...

how sad for this country
 
Clinton didnt "pass" anything. Budgets are passed by Congress. Who ran COngress during those years? Yeah, the GOP.
Don't mention it, RDean.
Another fail thread.

I guess you missed the part 216 to 218 without a single Republican voting for the Clinton budget?

http://www.usmessageboard.com/politics/306500-which-party-is-mainly-responsible-for-the-mess.html

Lucky, on this other thread, they linked to who held the house and senate in 1993 Now don't you feel better to know the truth?
I guess you missed the part where THERE WAS NO SURPLUS!

But you go right ahead and be a good little liberal...keep the LIE alive!:cuckoo:

The budget was certainly in better shape than today. Of course that had nothing to do with either Clinton or the GOP. It had to do with the tech boom and massive revenue to the gov't that even they couldn't spend that fast. Not that they didnt try.
 
1. Entitlement spending was less than 50% of the budget. Today it is 62%.

2. The decade saw a big drop in oil prices, from $23 per barrel in 1991 to $12 in 1998, boosting real disposable incomes. Today it is $100 per barrel.

3. Federal government spending declined significantly during the decade — meaning fewer resources as a share of the economy were being used unproductively by Washington — from 22.3% to 18.2%. Today it is at 22.9%. Total government spending is near 40% of GDP today, which is 30% higher than the 90s.

4. A big tax cut, lowering the top capital gains tax rate from 28% to 20%. Today it is at 23.8%.

5. The beginning of a computer networking and communications revolution, with investments fueled by the capital gains tax cut.

6. Lower real minimum wage.

7. Less regulation of key industries. Pre-Dodd/Franks

8. Pre-Obamacare business environment.

9. Less progressive taxation. Lowest rate was 15%, which is higher than today. The 28% rate kicked in at $60k instead of $143k today. Highest rate is the same, but again applied to lower real wages than today.

Inflation Adjusted 1998:
15% of $0 to $60k
28% of $60k to $144k
31% of $144k to $220k
36% of $220k to $392k
39.6% of $392k and up

Inflation Adjusted 2013:
10.0% of $0 to $17k
15.0% of $17k to $71k
25.0% of $71k to $143k
28.0% of $143k to $219k
33.0% of $219k to $390k
35.0% of $390k to $441k
39.6. % of $441k and up
 
1. Entitlement spending was less than 50% of the budget. Today it is 62%.

2. The decade saw a big drop in oil prices, from $23 per barrel in 1991 to $12 in 1998, boosting real disposable incomes. Today it is $100 per barrel.

3. Federal government spending declined significantly during the decade — meaning fewer resources as a share of the economy were being used unproductively by Washington — from 22.3% to 18.2%. Today it is at 22.9%. Total government spending is near 40% of GDP today, which is 30% higher than the 90s.

4. A big tax cut, lowering the top capital gains tax rate from 28% to 20%. Today it is at 23.8%.

5. The beginning of a computer networking and communications revolution, with investments fueled by the capital gains tax cut.

6. Lower real minimum wage.

7. Less regulation of key industries. Pre-Dodd/Franks

8. Pre-Obamacare business environment.

9. Less progressive taxation. Lowest rate was 15%, which is higher than today. The 28% rate kicked in at $60k instead of $143k today. Highest rate is the same, but again applied to lower real wages than today.

Inflation Adjusted 1998:
15% of $0 to $60k
28% of $60k to $144k
31% of $144k to $220k
36% of $220k to $392k
39.6% of $392k and up

Inflation Adjusted 2013:
10.0% of $0 to $17k
15.0% of $17k to $71k
25.0% of $71k to $143k
28.0% of $143k to $219k
33.0% of $219k to $390k
35.0% of $390k to $441k
39.6. % of $441k and up

plus a welfare reform of 1996
 

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