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I am not scared and I am not trolling.An accusation has been made about trolling, but what IS trolling, really? Well in fishing parlance from which the term was adopted, to troll is to lay out a wide net hoping to catch whatever one can catch
Similarly, in internet parlance, to troll is to set about deliberately to inflame , insult and otherwise annoy others - again, to catch whatever one can catch.
Every single posting of IM2 blames whites, accuses whites, maligns whites, insults whites, mischaracterizes whites and is designed to inflame whites. This dude seriously HATES white people.
When the targets of his hatred and rage respond, they are not trolling They are
Responding TO the trolling.
IM2 is just getting back what he is putting out.
I've done none of this. Again this is the race and racism thread and every black person here that stands up to the racists like doggiedoo get the same things done to them I do. And everybody white that doesn't express racism and calls it out gets the same treatment I do. I refused to be bullied by a bunch of chicken---- whites using a computer as a shield to say things they would never say to a black persons face.
And don't even try that with me, because I stood in front of whites in classroom and in halls of power saying what I am now.
Chicken shit whites.
Do keep it coming 1M2
I created this thread so you can argue your white victimhood argument and present facts to show that it is real. You have now followed me into a 4th thread. So are you scared? Or do you only want to troll?
If I was scared, I would be appeasing all your racism like those feeling white guilt do.
I'm just sitting here taking all your racist attacks, your attempts at intimidation and all your suggestions of violence knowing that you will continue to do so with no impediment.
You are trolling. You are contributing nothing to the discussions and you along with others here are the ones making racial attacks.
So, you going to post anything pertaining to the topic?
You accused me of being white because I disagreed with you in another thread.....People want to troll my threads incessantly here in the race and racism section for speaking on race and racism. For some reason people here have come to believe the race and racism section is only to be for whites to bitch, whine and cry about how unfair things are for whites and how blacks are handed everything. Or that only whites get to post stories and pictures of black criminals. That whites get to make false claims about blacks and that the shit they make up can't be questioned. That blacks here have no right to show the lies, but that we are only to agree with the whites here that what we face is our fault only, unless we become a president the he's half white don't you know.
That whites can enter any black persons thread and troll it with bullshit off topic posts until admin closes the thread instead of deleting the whites who are trolling while being very quick to delete any and every off topic post or posts by blacks that admin believes is race baiting or trolling. So now it's time.
My premise-There is no such thing as anti white discrimination.
So bring everything you got, because that's what it's going to take.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
Many white Americans feel that discrimination against whites is on the rise. Experiments suggests otherwise
By Keith Payne on July 18, 2019
A friend complained to me recently that his son wasn’t getting into Ivy League colleges because it’s so hard for a middle-class white kid to be admitted, even with straight A’s. I asked if the advantages of being a middle-class white kid might be part of the reason his son had become a straight-A student in the first place. It got awkward.
As our politics have fractured increasingly around race, there seems to be more and more confusion about who’s discriminating against whom. For example, a national survey reported that both blacks and whites believed that discrimination against blacks had declined over the past few decades, but whites believed that discrimination against whites was now more common than discrimination against blacks.
The reason, say the study’s authors Michael Norton and Sam Sommers, is that whites see discrimination as a zero-sum game. The more they thought discrimination against blacks was decreasing, the more they felt discrimination against whites was increasing. That’s consistent with other studies showing that if you remind whites that the American population is becoming more diverse and that whites will soon be less that half of the population, their concern about anti-white discrimination increases. Whites tend to view increasing diversity as anti-white bias.
News stories are full of statistical evidence for disparities between black and whites, such as the fact that the average black family earns about half as much as the average white family, or that the unemployment rate for blacks is twice that for whites, or that the wealth of the average white family is ten times the wealth of the average black family. But this kind of evidence is like a political Rorschach test that looks very different to liberals and conservatives. What looks to liberals like evidence of discrimination looks to conservatives like evidence of racial disparities in hard work and responsible behavior.
This dynamic was captured in a New York Times readers forum about a study showing large racial disparities in economic mobility, especially for black boys. A reader named Michael wrote, “Why is racism the only explanation for this phenomenon? Perhaps something happens to black boys while they are growing up that makes them less capable of succeeding in the U.S. economy… So, why do the authors take the easy way out and blame amorphous racism?” Professor Ibram Kendi responded, “Actually, the easy way out is to say there must be something wrong with these black boys. It is the easy way out that Americans have historically taken in trying to explain racial disparities in our society…Racist ideas of black inferiority is the easy way out.”
This kind of back and forth seems to be everywhere, from intellectuals arguing in books and essays to the general public arguing on social media. When it comes to statistical disparities, this is a rare case in which almost no one is disputing the facts. But the meaning of those facts appears endlessly up for grabs because opponents cannot agree on what is the cause of the disparities—discrimination or differences in merit.
The only kind of evidence that can hope to bridge this divide comes from experiments which directly measure discrimination — and these experiments have been done.
Consider an experiment by sociologist Devah Pager, who sent pairs of experimenters—one black and one white—to apply for 340 job ads in New York City. She gave them resumes doctored to have identical qualifications. She gave them scripts so that the applicants said the same things when handing in their applications. She even dressed them alike. She found that black applicants got half the call backs that white applicants got with the same qualifications.
This study inspired experiments in lots of areas of life. One study, for example, responded to more than 14,000 online apartment rental adds but varied whether the name attached to the email implied a white applicant (e.g., Allison Bauer) or a black applicant (e.g., Ebony Washington). The black applicants were twenty-six percent less likely to be told that the apartment was available.
These kinds of experiments are not ambiguous like statistics on disparities are. There were no differences in merit. Race was the cause. Real employers and landlords discriminated against blacks and in favor of whites, by a large margin.
This kind of direct evidence of discrimination against minorities have been found in other arenas. Professors are more likely to ignore emails from students of color. Airbnb hosts are more likely to tell black renters that the listing has already been taken. Pager and her colleagues published a meta-analysis incorporating every field experiment on hiring since the first ones were carried out in the 1980’s. Across two dozen studies, black applicants were called back 36 percent less than whites with the same qualifications. Not a single study found a reliable anti-white bias. Most sobering of all, the rate of discrimination is the same today as in the 1980’s.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
You are an angry person who hates white people. When you are utterly hostile to white people, blame them for all your own failures, insult them. malign them at every opportunity, verbally abuse them and threaten them, you are calling their response to you "racism". It isn't racism, though it is simply responding to all your aggression and hatred.I am not scared and I am not trolling.Chicken shit whites.
Do keep it coming 1M2
I created this thread so you can argue your white victimhood argument and present facts to show that it is real. You have now followed me into a 4th thread. So are you scared? Or do you only want to troll?
If I was scared, I would be appeasing all your racism like those feeling white guilt do.
I'm just sitting here taking all your racist attacks, your attempts at intimidation and all your suggestions of violence knowing that you will continue to do so with no impediment.
You are trolling. You are contributing nothing to the discussions and you along with others here are the ones making racial attacks.
So, you going to post anything pertaining to the topic?
I already explained what trolling was, and I have already addressed the topic.
Heck, if you were the white guy and me the black, you would be long gone by now. Being black gives you many privileges, not the least of which is the ability to act as the hateful maniac you are safe from repercussions.
trolling
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
The Off Topic Troll
It's pretty hard not to hate that person who posts something completely off topic in any type of social community discussion. It can be even worse when that person succeeds in shifting the topic and everyone ends up talking about whatever irrelevant thing that he or she posted. You see it all the time online – in the comments of Facebook posts, in threaded YouTube comments, on Twitter and literally anywhere there're active discussions happening.
This is you. And your last paragraph is a lie.
So, when are you going to show me how whites as an entire race face discrimination worse than what blacks do?
Where in Md are you?The rise in race hostility in the past 11 years is disturbing. Race has always been a problem but it really started to catch my attention and invade my world when President Obama was elected. I'm noting the importance of "catching my attention and invading my world" because before I didn't notice racial tension in my immediate environment with the exception of what I would read or see on television or in a rare instance. That is not to say that racism wasn't happening. It just speaks to my own oblivion.
I've been thinking about this issue with some real consideration. And what I think is happening is that we are at a generational crossroads that is creating a conflict between the races. What I mean by this is that the younger white generation has not experienced the blatant hate and dehumanization of black America. It's almost an enigma to them. On the other hand, the younger black generation is still very much aware of our past sins and the more memories or acknowledgement of these sins fade from society their voices are rising to have it remembered.
It's a rippling effect between the races.
You accused me of being white because I disagreed with you in another thread.....People want to troll my threads incessantly here in the race and racism section for speaking on race and racism. For some reason people here have come to believe the race and racism section is only to be for whites to bitch, whine and cry about how unfair things are for whites and how blacks are handed everything. Or that only whites get to post stories and pictures of black criminals. That whites get to make false claims about blacks and that the shit they make up can't be questioned. That blacks here have no right to show the lies, but that we are only to agree with the whites here that what we face is our fault only, unless we become a president the he's half white don't you know.
That whites can enter any black persons thread and troll it with bullshit off topic posts until admin closes the thread instead of deleting the whites who are trolling while being very quick to delete any and every off topic post or posts by blacks that admin believes is race baiting or trolling. So now it's time.
My premise-There is no such thing as anti white discrimination.
So bring everything you got, because that's what it's going to take.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
Many white Americans feel that discrimination against whites is on the rise. Experiments suggests otherwise
By Keith Payne on July 18, 2019
A friend complained to me recently that his son wasn’t getting into Ivy League colleges because it’s so hard for a middle-class white kid to be admitted, even with straight A’s. I asked if the advantages of being a middle-class white kid might be part of the reason his son had become a straight-A student in the first place. It got awkward.
As our politics have fractured increasingly around race, there seems to be more and more confusion about who’s discriminating against whom. For example, a national survey reported that both blacks and whites believed that discrimination against blacks had declined over the past few decades, but whites believed that discrimination against whites was now more common than discrimination against blacks.
The reason, say the study’s authors Michael Norton and Sam Sommers, is that whites see discrimination as a zero-sum game. The more they thought discrimination against blacks was decreasing, the more they felt discrimination against whites was increasing. That’s consistent with other studies showing that if you remind whites that the American population is becoming more diverse and that whites will soon be less that half of the population, their concern about anti-white discrimination increases. Whites tend to view increasing diversity as anti-white bias.
News stories are full of statistical evidence for disparities between black and whites, such as the fact that the average black family earns about half as much as the average white family, or that the unemployment rate for blacks is twice that for whites, or that the wealth of the average white family is ten times the wealth of the average black family. But this kind of evidence is like a political Rorschach test that looks very different to liberals and conservatives. What looks to liberals like evidence of discrimination looks to conservatives like evidence of racial disparities in hard work and responsible behavior.
This dynamic was captured in a New York Times readers forum about a study showing large racial disparities in economic mobility, especially for black boys. A reader named Michael wrote, “Why is racism the only explanation for this phenomenon? Perhaps something happens to black boys while they are growing up that makes them less capable of succeeding in the U.S. economy… So, why do the authors take the easy way out and blame amorphous racism?” Professor Ibram Kendi responded, “Actually, the easy way out is to say there must be something wrong with these black boys. It is the easy way out that Americans have historically taken in trying to explain racial disparities in our society…Racist ideas of black inferiority is the easy way out.”
This kind of back and forth seems to be everywhere, from intellectuals arguing in books and essays to the general public arguing on social media. When it comes to statistical disparities, this is a rare case in which almost no one is disputing the facts. But the meaning of those facts appears endlessly up for grabs because opponents cannot agree on what is the cause of the disparities—discrimination or differences in merit.
The only kind of evidence that can hope to bridge this divide comes from experiments which directly measure discrimination — and these experiments have been done.
Consider an experiment by sociologist Devah Pager, who sent pairs of experimenters—one black and one white—to apply for 340 job ads in New York City. She gave them resumes doctored to have identical qualifications. She gave them scripts so that the applicants said the same things when handing in their applications. She even dressed them alike. She found that black applicants got half the call backs that white applicants got with the same qualifications.
This study inspired experiments in lots of areas of life. One study, for example, responded to more than 14,000 online apartment rental adds but varied whether the name attached to the email implied a white applicant (e.g., Allison Bauer) or a black applicant (e.g., Ebony Washington). The black applicants were twenty-six percent less likely to be told that the apartment was available.
These kinds of experiments are not ambiguous like statistics on disparities are. There were no differences in merit. Race was the cause. Real employers and landlords discriminated against blacks and in favor of whites, by a large margin.
This kind of direct evidence of discrimination against minorities have been found in other arenas. Professors are more likely to ignore emails from students of color. Airbnb hosts are more likely to tell black renters that the listing has already been taken. Pager and her colleagues published a meta-analysis incorporating every field experiment on hiring since the first ones were carried out in the 1980’s. Across two dozen studies, black applicants were called back 36 percent less than whites with the same qualifications. Not a single study found a reliable anti-white bias. Most sobering of all, the rate of discrimination is the same today as in the 1980’s.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
Perspective of a black voter not inline w/DNC
My premise-There is no such thing as anti white discrimination.
That is an absurd premise.
I'm white because I can see Trump gaining support from blacks?? Is that what you're saying, IM2? lolYou accused me of being white because I disagreed with you in another thread.....People want to troll my threads incessantly here in the race and racism section for speaking on race and racism. For some reason people here have come to believe the race and racism section is only to be for whites to bitch, whine and cry about how unfair things are for whites and how blacks are handed everything. Or that only whites get to post stories and pictures of black criminals. That whites get to make false claims about blacks and that the shit they make up can't be questioned. That blacks here have no right to show the lies, but that we are only to agree with the whites here that what we face is our fault only, unless we become a president the he's half white don't you know.
That whites can enter any black persons thread and troll it with bullshit off topic posts until admin closes the thread instead of deleting the whites who are trolling while being very quick to delete any and every off topic post or posts by blacks that admin believes is race baiting or trolling. So now it's time.
My premise-There is no such thing as anti white discrimination.
So bring everything you got, because that's what it's going to take.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
Many white Americans feel that discrimination against whites is on the rise. Experiments suggests otherwise
By Keith Payne on July 18, 2019
A friend complained to me recently that his son wasn’t getting into Ivy League colleges because it’s so hard for a middle-class white kid to be admitted, even with straight A’s. I asked if the advantages of being a middle-class white kid might be part of the reason his son had become a straight-A student in the first place. It got awkward.
As our politics have fractured increasingly around race, there seems to be more and more confusion about who’s discriminating against whom. For example, a national survey reported that both blacks and whites believed that discrimination against blacks had declined over the past few decades, but whites believed that discrimination against whites was now more common than discrimination against blacks.
The reason, say the study’s authors Michael Norton and Sam Sommers, is that whites see discrimination as a zero-sum game. The more they thought discrimination against blacks was decreasing, the more they felt discrimination against whites was increasing. That’s consistent with other studies showing that if you remind whites that the American population is becoming more diverse and that whites will soon be less that half of the population, their concern about anti-white discrimination increases. Whites tend to view increasing diversity as anti-white bias.
News stories are full of statistical evidence for disparities between black and whites, such as the fact that the average black family earns about half as much as the average white family, or that the unemployment rate for blacks is twice that for whites, or that the wealth of the average white family is ten times the wealth of the average black family. But this kind of evidence is like a political Rorschach test that looks very different to liberals and conservatives. What looks to liberals like evidence of discrimination looks to conservatives like evidence of racial disparities in hard work and responsible behavior.
This dynamic was captured in a New York Times readers forum about a study showing large racial disparities in economic mobility, especially for black boys. A reader named Michael wrote, “Why is racism the only explanation for this phenomenon? Perhaps something happens to black boys while they are growing up that makes them less capable of succeeding in the U.S. economy… So, why do the authors take the easy way out and blame amorphous racism?” Professor Ibram Kendi responded, “Actually, the easy way out is to say there must be something wrong with these black boys. It is the easy way out that Americans have historically taken in trying to explain racial disparities in our society…Racist ideas of black inferiority is the easy way out.”
This kind of back and forth seems to be everywhere, from intellectuals arguing in books and essays to the general public arguing on social media. When it comes to statistical disparities, this is a rare case in which almost no one is disputing the facts. But the meaning of those facts appears endlessly up for grabs because opponents cannot agree on what is the cause of the disparities—discrimination or differences in merit.
The only kind of evidence that can hope to bridge this divide comes from experiments which directly measure discrimination — and these experiments have been done.
Consider an experiment by sociologist Devah Pager, who sent pairs of experimenters—one black and one white—to apply for 340 job ads in New York City. She gave them resumes doctored to have identical qualifications. She gave them scripts so that the applicants said the same things when handing in their applications. She even dressed them alike. She found that black applicants got half the call backs that white applicants got with the same qualifications.
This study inspired experiments in lots of areas of life. One study, for example, responded to more than 14,000 online apartment rental adds but varied whether the name attached to the email implied a white applicant (e.g., Allison Bauer) or a black applicant (e.g., Ebony Washington). The black applicants were twenty-six percent less likely to be told that the apartment was available.
These kinds of experiments are not ambiguous like statistics on disparities are. There were no differences in merit. Race was the cause. Real employers and landlords discriminated against blacks and in favor of whites, by a large margin.
This kind of direct evidence of discrimination against minorities have been found in other arenas. Professors are more likely to ignore emails from students of color. Airbnb hosts are more likely to tell black renters that the listing has already been taken. Pager and her colleagues published a meta-analysis incorporating every field experiment on hiring since the first ones were carried out in the 1980’s. Across two dozen studies, black applicants were called back 36 percent less than whites with the same qualifications. Not a single study found a reliable anti-white bias. Most sobering of all, the rate of discrimination is the same today as in the 1980’s.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
Perspective of a black voter not inline w/DNC
I said you are white because that's what you appear to be. And you said this:
"I have no doubt about Trump gaining black support and getting re-elected."
I'm black and Trump didn't have much black support to begin with. He has less now. He is not going to gain support and while you guys are so confident of his re election, I think you might want to fall back on that. People don't get called white or racist just because someone disagrees with them. You have no idea of how the majority of blacks see Trump. He got 8 percent last time and Rasmussen numbers aren't even close to correct.
You are an angry person who hates white people. When you are utterly hostile to white people, blame them for all your own failures, insult them. malign them at every opportunity, verbally abuse them and threaten them, you are calling their response to you "racism". It isn't racism, though it is simply responding to all your aggression and hatred.I am not scared and I am not trolling.I created this thread so you can argue your white victimhood argument and present facts to show that it is real. You have now followed me into a 4th thread. So are you scared? Or do you only want to troll?
If I was scared, I would be appeasing all your racism like those feeling white guilt do.
I'm just sitting here taking all your racist attacks, your attempts at intimidation and all your suggestions of violence knowing that you will continue to do so with no impediment.
You are trolling. You are contributing nothing to the discussions and you along with others here are the ones making racial attacks.
So, you going to post anything pertaining to the topic?
I already explained what trolling was, and I have already addressed the topic.
Heck, if you were the white guy and me the black, you would be long gone by now. Being black gives you many privileges, not the least of which is the ability to act as the hateful maniac you are safe from repercussions.
trolling
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
The Off Topic Troll
It's pretty hard not to hate that person who posts something completely off topic in any type of social community discussion. It can be even worse when that person succeeds in shifting the topic and everyone ends up talking about whatever irrelevant thing that he or she posted. You see it all the time online – in the comments of Facebook posts, in threaded YouTube comments, on Twitter and literally anywhere there're active discussions happening.
This is you. And your last paragraph is a lie.
So, when are you going to show me how whites as an entire race face discrimination worse than what blacks do?
When I lived in Oakland I knew black men who were real men and not like you, and they were friendly and kind, had a sense of humor and interacted with white people just like everybody else . They were successes, not failures, and it was no coincidence that they did not see all this much imagined racism in white people.They were not creating it by their boorish, aggressive behavior.
I bet if you would stop hating white people with the manic intensity you do, you would find that precious few would ever hate you back.
You hate people for the color of their skin and when the people you hate end up hating you back , it's not that they hate black people. They hate YOU.
Grow up. It's never too late to turn into a man.
anything that isn't New Black Panthers is White in the world of IM2I'm white because I can see Trump gaining support from blacks?? Is that what you're saying, IM2? lolYou accused me of being white because I disagreed with you in another thread.....People want to troll my threads incessantly here in the race and racism section for speaking on race and racism. For some reason people here have come to believe the race and racism section is only to be for whites to bitch, whine and cry about how unfair things are for whites and how blacks are handed everything. Or that only whites get to post stories and pictures of black criminals. That whites get to make false claims about blacks and that the shit they make up can't be questioned. That blacks here have no right to show the lies, but that we are only to agree with the whites here that what we face is our fault only, unless we become a president the he's half white don't you know.
That whites can enter any black persons thread and troll it with bullshit off topic posts until admin closes the thread instead of deleting the whites who are trolling while being very quick to delete any and every off topic post or posts by blacks that admin believes is race baiting or trolling. So now it's time.
My premise-There is no such thing as anti white discrimination.
So bring everything you got, because that's what it's going to take.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
Many white Americans feel that discrimination against whites is on the rise. Experiments suggests otherwise
By Keith Payne on July 18, 2019
A friend complained to me recently that his son wasn’t getting into Ivy League colleges because it’s so hard for a middle-class white kid to be admitted, even with straight A’s. I asked if the advantages of being a middle-class white kid might be part of the reason his son had become a straight-A student in the first place. It got awkward.
As our politics have fractured increasingly around race, there seems to be more and more confusion about who’s discriminating against whom. For example, a national survey reported that both blacks and whites believed that discrimination against blacks had declined over the past few decades, but whites believed that discrimination against whites was now more common than discrimination against blacks.
The reason, say the study’s authors Michael Norton and Sam Sommers, is that whites see discrimination as a zero-sum game. The more they thought discrimination against blacks was decreasing, the more they felt discrimination against whites was increasing. That’s consistent with other studies showing that if you remind whites that the American population is becoming more diverse and that whites will soon be less that half of the population, their concern about anti-white discrimination increases. Whites tend to view increasing diversity as anti-white bias.
News stories are full of statistical evidence for disparities between black and whites, such as the fact that the average black family earns about half as much as the average white family, or that the unemployment rate for blacks is twice that for whites, or that the wealth of the average white family is ten times the wealth of the average black family. But this kind of evidence is like a political Rorschach test that looks very different to liberals and conservatives. What looks to liberals like evidence of discrimination looks to conservatives like evidence of racial disparities in hard work and responsible behavior.
This dynamic was captured in a New York Times readers forum about a study showing large racial disparities in economic mobility, especially for black boys. A reader named Michael wrote, “Why is racism the only explanation for this phenomenon? Perhaps something happens to black boys while they are growing up that makes them less capable of succeeding in the U.S. economy… So, why do the authors take the easy way out and blame amorphous racism?” Professor Ibram Kendi responded, “Actually, the easy way out is to say there must be something wrong with these black boys. It is the easy way out that Americans have historically taken in trying to explain racial disparities in our society…Racist ideas of black inferiority is the easy way out.”
This kind of back and forth seems to be everywhere, from intellectuals arguing in books and essays to the general public arguing on social media. When it comes to statistical disparities, this is a rare case in which almost no one is disputing the facts. But the meaning of those facts appears endlessly up for grabs because opponents cannot agree on what is the cause of the disparities—discrimination or differences in merit.
The only kind of evidence that can hope to bridge this divide comes from experiments which directly measure discrimination — and these experiments have been done.
Consider an experiment by sociologist Devah Pager, who sent pairs of experimenters—one black and one white—to apply for 340 job ads in New York City. She gave them resumes doctored to have identical qualifications. She gave them scripts so that the applicants said the same things when handing in their applications. She even dressed them alike. She found that black applicants got half the call backs that white applicants got with the same qualifications.
This study inspired experiments in lots of areas of life. One study, for example, responded to more than 14,000 online apartment rental adds but varied whether the name attached to the email implied a white applicant (e.g., Allison Bauer) or a black applicant (e.g., Ebony Washington). The black applicants were twenty-six percent less likely to be told that the apartment was available.
These kinds of experiments are not ambiguous like statistics on disparities are. There were no differences in merit. Race was the cause. Real employers and landlords discriminated against blacks and in favor of whites, by a large margin.
This kind of direct evidence of discrimination against minorities have been found in other arenas. Professors are more likely to ignore emails from students of color. Airbnb hosts are more likely to tell black renters that the listing has already been taken. Pager and her colleagues published a meta-analysis incorporating every field experiment on hiring since the first ones were carried out in the 1980’s. Across two dozen studies, black applicants were called back 36 percent less than whites with the same qualifications. Not a single study found a reliable anti-white bias. Most sobering of all, the rate of discrimination is the same today as in the 1980’s.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
Perspective of a black voter not inline w/DNC
I said you are white because that's what you appear to be. And you said this:
"I have no doubt about Trump gaining black support and getting re-elected."
I'm black and Trump didn't have much black support to begin with. He has less now. He is not going to gain support and while you guys are so confident of his re election, I think you might want to fall back on that. People don't get called white or racist just because someone disagrees with them. You have no idea of how the majority of blacks see Trump. He got 8 percent last time and Rasmussen numbers aren't even close to correct.
I'm white because I can see Trump gaining support from blacks?? Is that what you're saying, IM2? lolYou accused me of being white because I disagreed with you in another thread.....People want to troll my threads incessantly here in the race and racism section for speaking on race and racism. For some reason people here have come to believe the race and racism section is only to be for whites to bitch, whine and cry about how unfair things are for whites and how blacks are handed everything. Or that only whites get to post stories and pictures of black criminals. That whites get to make false claims about blacks and that the shit they make up can't be questioned. That blacks here have no right to show the lies, but that we are only to agree with the whites here that what we face is our fault only, unless we become a president the he's half white don't you know.
That whites can enter any black persons thread and troll it with bullshit off topic posts until admin closes the thread instead of deleting the whites who are trolling while being very quick to delete any and every off topic post or posts by blacks that admin believes is race baiting or trolling. So now it's time.
My premise-There is no such thing as anti white discrimination.
So bring everything you got, because that's what it's going to take.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
Many white Americans feel that discrimination against whites is on the rise. Experiments suggests otherwise
By Keith Payne on July 18, 2019
A friend complained to me recently that his son wasn’t getting into Ivy League colleges because it’s so hard for a middle-class white kid to be admitted, even with straight A’s. I asked if the advantages of being a middle-class white kid might be part of the reason his son had become a straight-A student in the first place. It got awkward.
As our politics have fractured increasingly around race, there seems to be more and more confusion about who’s discriminating against whom. For example, a national survey reported that both blacks and whites believed that discrimination against blacks had declined over the past few decades, but whites believed that discrimination against whites was now more common than discrimination against blacks.
The reason, say the study’s authors Michael Norton and Sam Sommers, is that whites see discrimination as a zero-sum game. The more they thought discrimination against blacks was decreasing, the more they felt discrimination against whites was increasing. That’s consistent with other studies showing that if you remind whites that the American population is becoming more diverse and that whites will soon be less that half of the population, their concern about anti-white discrimination increases. Whites tend to view increasing diversity as anti-white bias.
News stories are full of statistical evidence for disparities between black and whites, such as the fact that the average black family earns about half as much as the average white family, or that the unemployment rate for blacks is twice that for whites, or that the wealth of the average white family is ten times the wealth of the average black family. But this kind of evidence is like a political Rorschach test that looks very different to liberals and conservatives. What looks to liberals like evidence of discrimination looks to conservatives like evidence of racial disparities in hard work and responsible behavior.
This dynamic was captured in a New York Times readers forum about a study showing large racial disparities in economic mobility, especially for black boys. A reader named Michael wrote, “Why is racism the only explanation for this phenomenon? Perhaps something happens to black boys while they are growing up that makes them less capable of succeeding in the U.S. economy… So, why do the authors take the easy way out and blame amorphous racism?” Professor Ibram Kendi responded, “Actually, the easy way out is to say there must be something wrong with these black boys. It is the easy way out that Americans have historically taken in trying to explain racial disparities in our society…Racist ideas of black inferiority is the easy way out.”
This kind of back and forth seems to be everywhere, from intellectuals arguing in books and essays to the general public arguing on social media. When it comes to statistical disparities, this is a rare case in which almost no one is disputing the facts. But the meaning of those facts appears endlessly up for grabs because opponents cannot agree on what is the cause of the disparities—discrimination or differences in merit.
The only kind of evidence that can hope to bridge this divide comes from experiments which directly measure discrimination — and these experiments have been done.
Consider an experiment by sociologist Devah Pager, who sent pairs of experimenters—one black and one white—to apply for 340 job ads in New York City. She gave them resumes doctored to have identical qualifications. She gave them scripts so that the applicants said the same things when handing in their applications. She even dressed them alike. She found that black applicants got half the call backs that white applicants got with the same qualifications.
This study inspired experiments in lots of areas of life. One study, for example, responded to more than 14,000 online apartment rental adds but varied whether the name attached to the email implied a white applicant (e.g., Allison Bauer) or a black applicant (e.g., Ebony Washington). The black applicants were twenty-six percent less likely to be told that the apartment was available.
These kinds of experiments are not ambiguous like statistics on disparities are. There were no differences in merit. Race was the cause. Real employers and landlords discriminated against blacks and in favor of whites, by a large margin.
This kind of direct evidence of discrimination against minorities have been found in other arenas. Professors are more likely to ignore emails from students of color. Airbnb hosts are more likely to tell black renters that the listing has already been taken. Pager and her colleagues published a meta-analysis incorporating every field experiment on hiring since the first ones were carried out in the 1980’s. Across two dozen studies, black applicants were called back 36 percent less than whites with the same qualifications. Not a single study found a reliable anti-white bias. Most sobering of all, the rate of discrimination is the same today as in the 1980’s.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
Perspective of a black voter not inline w/DNC
I said you are white because that's what you appear to be. And you said this:
"I have no doubt about Trump gaining black support and getting re-elected."
I'm black and Trump didn't have much black support to begin with. He has less now. He is not going to gain support and while you guys are so confident of his re election, I think you might want to fall back on that. People don't get called white or racist just because someone disagrees with them. You have no idea of how the majority of blacks see Trump. He got 8 percent last time and Rasmussen numbers aren't even close to correct.
Back when quotas and affirmative action ramped up around the early 1970's or so, white males were put last on the list of being hired. Graduating high school and applying fr a good job was useless for most. You will never ever get to lie about that. The Progs will never broadcast that. A true story. Lasted at least a decade/fifteen years but a bit tougher in the beginning.You are an angry person who hates white people. When you are utterly hostile to white people, blame them for all your own failures, insult them. malign them at every opportunity, verbally abuse them and threaten them, you are calling their response to you "racism". It isn't racism, though it is simply responding to all your aggression and hatred.I am not scared and I am not trolling.
If I was scared, I would be appeasing all your racism like those feeling white guilt do.
I'm just sitting here taking all your racist attacks, your attempts at intimidation and all your suggestions of violence knowing that you will continue to do so with no impediment.
You are trolling. You are contributing nothing to the discussions and you along with others here are the ones making racial attacks.
So, you going to post anything pertaining to the topic?
I already explained what trolling was, and I have already addressed the topic.
Heck, if you were the white guy and me the black, you would be long gone by now. Being black gives you many privileges, not the least of which is the ability to act as the hateful maniac you are safe from repercussions.
trolling
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
The Off Topic Troll
It's pretty hard not to hate that person who posts something completely off topic in any type of social community discussion. It can be even worse when that person succeeds in shifting the topic and everyone ends up talking about whatever irrelevant thing that he or she posted. You see it all the time online – in the comments of Facebook posts, in threaded YouTube comments, on Twitter and literally anywhere there're active discussions happening.
This is you. And your last paragraph is a lie.
So, when are you going to show me how whites as an entire race face discrimination worse than what blacks do?
When I lived in Oakland I knew black men who were real men and not like you, and they were friendly and kind, had a sense of humor and interacted with white people just like everybody else . They were successes, not failures, and it was no coincidence that they did not see all this much imagined racism in white people.They were not creating it by their boorish, aggressive behavior.
I bet if you would stop hating white people with the manic intensity you do, you would find that precious few would ever hate you back.
You hate people for the color of their skin and when the people you hate end up hating you back , it's not that they hate black people. They hate YOU.
Grow up. It's never too late to turn into a man.
I have no problem with white people. And if I was angry, I have every right to be.
You keep repeating the same silly shit.
So can you show me nationwide discrimination against white people or not?
Do white people have a valid reason to be angry when they see 13% of black population committing over 50% of crimes?You are an angry person who hates white people. When you are utterly hostile to white people, blame them for all your own failures, insult them. malign them at every opportunity, verbally abuse them and threaten them, you are calling their response to you "racism". It isn't racism, though it is simply responding to all your aggression and hatred.I am not scared and I am not trolling.
If I was scared, I would be appeasing all your racism like those feeling white guilt do.
I'm just sitting here taking all your racist attacks, your attempts at intimidation and all your suggestions of violence knowing that you will continue to do so with no impediment.
You are trolling. You are contributing nothing to the discussions and you along with others here are the ones making racial attacks.
So, you going to post anything pertaining to the topic?
I already explained what trolling was, and I have already addressed the topic.
Heck, if you were the white guy and me the black, you would be long gone by now. Being black gives you many privileges, not the least of which is the ability to act as the hateful maniac you are safe from repercussions.
trolling
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
The Off Topic Troll
It's pretty hard not to hate that person who posts something completely off topic in any type of social community discussion. It can be even worse when that person succeeds in shifting the topic and everyone ends up talking about whatever irrelevant thing that he or she posted. You see it all the time online – in the comments of Facebook posts, in threaded YouTube comments, on Twitter and literally anywhere there're active discussions happening.
This is you. And your last paragraph is a lie.
So, when are you going to show me how whites as an entire race face discrimination worse than what blacks do?
When I lived in Oakland I knew black men who were real men and not like you, and they were friendly and kind, had a sense of humor and interacted with white people just like everybody else . They were successes, not failures, and it was no coincidence that they did not see all this much imagined racism in white people.They were not creating it by their boorish, aggressive behavior.
I bet if you would stop hating white people with the manic intensity you do, you would find that precious few would ever hate you back.
You hate people for the color of their skin and when the people you hate end up hating you back , it's not that they hate black people. They hate YOU.
Grow up. It's never too late to turn into a man.
I have no problem with white people. And if I was angry, I have every right to be.
You keep repeating the same silly shit.
So can you show me nationwide discrimination against white people or not?
Do white people have a valid reason to be angry when they see 13% of black population committing over 50% of crimes?You are an angry person who hates white people. When you are utterly hostile to white people, blame them for all your own failures, insult them. malign them at every opportunity, verbally abuse them and threaten them, you are calling their response to you "racism". It isn't racism, though it is simply responding to all your aggression and hatred.You are trolling. You are contributing nothing to the discussions and you along with others here are the ones making racial attacks.
So, you going to post anything pertaining to the topic?
I already explained what trolling was, and I have already addressed the topic.
Heck, if you were the white guy and me the black, you would be long gone by now. Being black gives you many privileges, not the least of which is the ability to act as the hateful maniac you are safe from repercussions.
trolling
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
The Off Topic Troll
It's pretty hard not to hate that person who posts something completely off topic in any type of social community discussion. It can be even worse when that person succeeds in shifting the topic and everyone ends up talking about whatever irrelevant thing that he or she posted. You see it all the time online – in the comments of Facebook posts, in threaded YouTube comments, on Twitter and literally anywhere there're active discussions happening.
This is you. And your last paragraph is a lie.
So, when are you going to show me how whites as an entire race face discrimination worse than what blacks do?
When I lived in Oakland I knew black men who were real men and not like you, and they were friendly and kind, had a sense of humor and interacted with white people just like everybody else . They were successes, not failures, and it was no coincidence that they did not see all this much imagined racism in white people.They were not creating it by their boorish, aggressive behavior.
I bet if you would stop hating white people with the manic intensity you do, you would find that precious few would ever hate you back.
You hate people for the color of their skin and when the people you hate end up hating you back , it's not that they hate black people. They hate YOU.
Grow up. It's never too late to turn into a man.
I have no problem with white people. And if I was angry, I have every right to be.
You keep repeating the same silly shit.
So can you show me nationwide discrimination against white people or not?
Back when quotas and affirmative action ramped up around the early 1970's or so, white males were put last on the list of being hired. Graduating high school and applying fr a good job was useless for most. You will never ever get to lie about that. The Progs will never broadcast that. A true story. Lasted at least a decade/fifteen years but a bit tougher in the beginning.You are an angry person who hates white people. When you are utterly hostile to white people, blame them for all your own failures, insult them. malign them at every opportunity, verbally abuse them and threaten them, you are calling their response to you "racism". It isn't racism, though it is simply responding to all your aggression and hatred.You are trolling. You are contributing nothing to the discussions and you along with others here are the ones making racial attacks.
So, you going to post anything pertaining to the topic?
I already explained what trolling was, and I have already addressed the topic.
Heck, if you were the white guy and me the black, you would be long gone by now. Being black gives you many privileges, not the least of which is the ability to act as the hateful maniac you are safe from repercussions.
trolling
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
The Off Topic Troll
It's pretty hard not to hate that person who posts something completely off topic in any type of social community discussion. It can be even worse when that person succeeds in shifting the topic and everyone ends up talking about whatever irrelevant thing that he or she posted. You see it all the time online – in the comments of Facebook posts, in threaded YouTube comments, on Twitter and literally anywhere there're active discussions happening.
This is you. And your last paragraph is a lie.
So, when are you going to show me how whites as an entire race face discrimination worse than what blacks do?
When I lived in Oakland I knew black men who were real men and not like you, and they were friendly and kind, had a sense of humor and interacted with white people just like everybody else . They were successes, not failures, and it was no coincidence that they did not see all this much imagined racism in white people.They were not creating it by their boorish, aggressive behavior.
I bet if you would stop hating white people with the manic intensity you do, you would find that precious few would ever hate you back.
You hate people for the color of their skin and when the people you hate end up hating you back , it's not that they hate black people. They hate YOU.
Grow up. It's never too late to turn into a man.
I have no problem with white people. And if I was angry, I have every right to be.
You keep repeating the same silly shit.
So can you show me nationwide discrimination against white people or not?
We can't ignore the facts, IM2.Do white people have a valid reason to be angry when they see 13% of black population committing over 50% of crimes?You are an angry person who hates white people. When you are utterly hostile to white people, blame them for all your own failures, insult them. malign them at every opportunity, verbally abuse them and threaten them, you are calling their response to you "racism". It isn't racism, though it is simply responding to all your aggression and hatred.I already explained what trolling was, and I have already addressed the topic.
Heck, if you were the white guy and me the black, you would be long gone by now. Being black gives you many privileges, not the least of which is the ability to act as the hateful maniac you are safe from repercussions.
trolling
make a deliberately offensive or provocative online post with the aim of upsetting someone or eliciting an angry response from them.
The Off Topic Troll
It's pretty hard not to hate that person who posts something completely off topic in any type of social community discussion. It can be even worse when that person succeeds in shifting the topic and everyone ends up talking about whatever irrelevant thing that he or she posted. You see it all the time online – in the comments of Facebook posts, in threaded YouTube comments, on Twitter and literally anywhere there're active discussions happening.
This is you. And your last paragraph is a lie.
So, when are you going to show me how whites as an entire race face discrimination worse than what blacks do?
When I lived in Oakland I knew black men who were real men and not like you, and they were friendly and kind, had a sense of humor and interacted with white people just like everybody else . They were successes, not failures, and it was no coincidence that they did not see all this much imagined racism in white people.They were not creating it by their boorish, aggressive behavior.
I bet if you would stop hating white people with the manic intensity you do, you would find that precious few would ever hate you back.
You hate people for the color of their skin and when the people you hate end up hating you back , it's not that they hate black people. They hate YOU.
Grow up. It's never too late to turn into a man.
I have no problem with white people. And if I was angry, I have every right to be.
You keep repeating the same silly shit.
So can you show me nationwide discrimination against white people or not?
But they don't see that. Because whites commit 70 percent of the crimes.
People want to troll my threads incessantly here in the race and racism section for speaking on race and racism. For some reason people here have come to believe the race and racism section is only to be for whites to bitch, whine and cry about how unfair things are for whites and how blacks are handed everything. Or that only whites get to post stories and pictures of black criminals. That whites get to make false claims about blacks and that the shit they make up can't be questioned. That blacks here have no right to show the lies, but that we are only to agree with the whites here that what we face is our fault only, unless we become a president the he's half white don't you know.
That whites can enter any black persons thread and troll it with bullshit off topic posts until admin closes the thread instead of deleting the whites who are trolling while being very quick to delete any and every off topic post or posts by blacks that admin believes is race baiting or trolling. So now it's time.
My premise-There is no such thing as anti white discrimination.
So bring everything you got, because that's what it's going to take.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
Many white Americans feel that discrimination against whites is on the rise. Experiments suggests otherwise
By Keith Payne on July 18, 2019
A friend complained to me recently that his son wasn’t getting into Ivy League colleges because it’s so hard for a middle-class white kid to be admitted, even with straight A’s. I asked if the advantages of being a middle-class white kid might be part of the reason his son had become a straight-A student in the first place. It got awkward.
As our politics have fractured increasingly around race, there seems to be more and more confusion about who’s discriminating against whom. For example, a national survey reported that both blacks and whites believed that discrimination against blacks had declined over the past few decades, but whites believed that discrimination against whites was now more common than discrimination against blacks.
The reason, say the study’s authors Michael Norton and Sam Sommers, is that whites see discrimination as a zero-sum game. The more they thought discrimination against blacks was decreasing, the more they felt discrimination against whites was increasing. That’s consistent with other studies showing that if you remind whites that the American population is becoming more diverse and that whites will soon be less that half of the population, their concern about anti-white discrimination increases. Whites tend to view increasing diversity as anti-white bias.
News stories are full of statistical evidence for disparities between black and whites, such as the fact that the average black family earns about half as much as the average white family, or that the unemployment rate for blacks is twice that for whites, or that the wealth of the average white family is ten times the wealth of the average black family. But this kind of evidence is like a political Rorschach test that looks very different to liberals and conservatives. What looks to liberals like evidence of discrimination looks to conservatives like evidence of racial disparities in hard work and responsible behavior.
This dynamic was captured in a New York Times readers forum about a study showing large racial disparities in economic mobility, especially for black boys. A reader named Michael wrote, “Why is racism the only explanation for this phenomenon? Perhaps something happens to black boys while they are growing up that makes them less capable of succeeding in the U.S. economy… So, why do the authors take the easy way out and blame amorphous racism?” Professor Ibram Kendi responded, “Actually, the easy way out is to say there must be something wrong with these black boys. It is the easy way out that Americans have historically taken in trying to explain racial disparities in our society…Racist ideas of black inferiority is the easy way out.”
This kind of back and forth seems to be everywhere, from intellectuals arguing in books and essays to the general public arguing on social media. When it comes to statistical disparities, this is a rare case in which almost no one is disputing the facts. But the meaning of those facts appears endlessly up for grabs because opponents cannot agree on what is the cause of the disparities—discrimination or differences in merit.
The only kind of evidence that can hope to bridge this divide comes from experiments which directly measure discrimination — and these experiments have been done.
Consider an experiment by sociologist Devah Pager, who sent pairs of experimenters—one black and one white—to apply for 340 job ads in New York City. She gave them resumes doctored to have identical qualifications. She gave them scripts so that the applicants said the same things when handing in their applications. She even dressed them alike. She found that black applicants got half the call backs that white applicants got with the same qualifications.
This study inspired experiments in lots of areas of life. One study, for example, responded to more than 14,000 online apartment rental adds but varied whether the name attached to the email implied a white applicant (e.g., Allison Bauer) or a black applicant (e.g., Ebony Washington). The black applicants were twenty-six percent less likely to be told that the apartment was available.
These kinds of experiments are not ambiguous like statistics on disparities are. There were no differences in merit. Race was the cause. Real employers and landlords discriminated against blacks and in favor of whites, by a large margin.
This kind of direct evidence of discrimination against minorities have been found in other arenas. Professors are more likely to ignore emails from students of color. Airbnb hosts are more likely to tell black renters that the listing has already been taken. Pager and her colleagues published a meta-analysis incorporating every field experiment on hiring since the first ones were carried out in the 1980’s. Across two dozen studies, black applicants were called back 36 percent less than whites with the same qualifications. Not a single study found a reliable anti-white bias. Most sobering of all, the rate of discrimination is the same today as in the 1980’s.
The Truth about Anti-White Discrimination
No, all it takes to prove that there is anti white discrimination is one example of anti white discrimination. That is why your you premise is absurd. According to your premise, no one ever gets discriminated against for being white.My premise-There is no such thing as anti white discrimination.
That is an absurd premise.
Prove it. Show there is an nationwide adverse impact on whites today.
No, all it takes to prove that there is anti white discrimination is one example of anti white discrimination. That is why your you premise is absurd. According to your premise, no one ever gets discriminated against for being white.My premise-There is no such thing as anti white discrimination.
That is an absurd premise.
Prove it. Show there is an nationwide adverse impact on whites today.
