Justice Department ordered to answer for Jan. 6 killing of Ashli Babbitt

[Ghost of a Rider]

The others got the message

That's just it: they continued trying to get in anyway and ended up getting into the building. But no one else was shot.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Because after she was shot everybody else backed the hell up.

And then they proceeded to get into the building anyway.

 

[Curried Goats]

And then they proceeded to get into the building anyway.

They didn't continue to try and break in to the section they had barricaded as one of the last lines of defense between the mob and House members.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Again, I did not ask why she was shot. She was shot for trying to unlawfully enter the Capital building and I know this. I asked a simple question: Why was she the only one shot that day?

You mis-state the conditions, she wasn't shot for "trying to unlawfully enter the Capital Building...".

She was shot for being at the lead of a violent riotious mob that had broken through multiple law enforcement barriers. The mob had broken through the last barrier just a few steps from the door from the Speakers Lobby to the House Chamber where members of Congress, the Vice President, members of their staffs and civilians were/had been attempting to do their Constitutional duty in counting the Electoral Votes.

The barrier manned by a law enforcement officer and she (and the violent mob) presented a clear and danger of death or serious bodily injury to the law enforcement officer, members of Congress, and civilians if the mob were to proceed.

He fired a single shot, center mass as she was climbing through the window of a broken door rights next to the door into the chamber.

That single, controlled firearm discharged stunned the mob to not proceed until additional law enforcement arrived (which was quickly).

WW

 

[rightwinger]

That's just it: they continued trying to get in anyway and ended up getting into the building. But no one else was shot.

They stopped caring about the building

Congress members were still inside the chamber
That is where they drew the line

 

[Superbadbrutha]

And then they proceeded to get into the building anyway.

They didn't proceed to get where she was trying to go

 

[Superbadbrutha]

And then they proceeded to get into the building anyway.

They didn't proceed to get into the Congressional chambers.

 

[WorldWatcher]

And then they proceeded to get into the building anyway.

Serious question...

Do you really not know she wasn't shot entering the building? This is the second time making reference to entering the building.

WW

 

[Crepitus]

Why was she the only one shot that day?

The rest got the message?

I don't know.

Personally I am quite surprised she was. That shows far more restraint than keyed up LEO are usually capable of.

The people in the crowd were unbelievably lucky that day.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

You understand the point.

I realized later you were referring to this comment:

"People have been killed by the police for doing absolutely nothing illegal and they don't get the defense that Trump supporters give Babbitt."

It didn't really register at the time because I chalked it up to a whataboutism and that you were focusing on my "defense" of Babbit. That's why my response was that I was not defending her.

Having said that, all I can say is that it's not any different than people ignoring black-on-black crime while vilifying cops for shooting unarmed blacks. Both sides will choose and champion certain victims over others for their own reasons. I don't see this case being any different.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

You mis-state the conditions, she wasn't shot for "trying to unlawfully enter the Capital Building...".

She was shot for being at the lead of a violent riotious mob that had broken through multiple law enforcement barriers. The mob had broken through the last barrier just a few steps from the door from the Speakers Lobby to the House Chamber where members of Congress, the Vice President, members of their staffs and civilians were/had been attempting to do their Constitutional duty in counting the Electoral Votes.

The barrier manned by a law enforcement officer and she (and the violent mob) presented a clear and danger of death or serious bodily injury to the law enforcement officer, members of Congress, and civilians if the mob were to proceed.

He fired a single shot, center mass as she was climbing through the window of a broken door rights next to the door into the chamber.

That single, controlled firearm discharged stunned the mob to not proceed until additional law enforcement arrived (which was quickly).

WW

I don't see how this has any relevance to my question as to why only one person was shot when the mob eventually breached the Capital building anyway.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

They stopped caring about the building

Congress members were still inside the chamber
That is where they drew the line

Perhaps. Was this a stated reason or speculation?

 

[pknopp]

I realized later you were referring to this comment:

"People have been killed by the police for doing absolutely nothing illegal and they don't get the defense that Trump supporters give Babbitt."

It didn't really register at the time because I chalked it up to a whataboutism and that you were focusing on my "defense" of Babbit. That's why my response was that I was not defending her.

Having said that, all I can say is that it's not any different than people ignoring black-on-black crime while vilifying cops for shooting unarmed blacks. Both sides will choose and champion certain victims over others for their own reasons. I don't see this case being any different.

Nobody ignores anything like that. When a black man kills another black man they go to prison.

Who has ever ignored that?

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

They didn't proceed to get into the Congressional chambers.

Okay.

 

[PeterPilot]

I am asking her a question, doesn't have a damn thing to do with me thinking for myself.

Whatever you say sir!

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Serious question...

Do you really not know she wasn't shot entering the building? This is the second time making reference to entering the building.

WW

If you mean she was shot in the lobby outside the House chamber, to me that was a distinction with no real difference. She was shot attempting to enter.

 

[Ghost of a Rider]

Nobody ignores anything like that. When a black man kills another black man they go to prison.

Who has ever ignored that?

Black Lives Matter for one.

I'm not talking about law enforcement or judicial response to individual crimes, I'm talking about what causes people choose to champion. For whatever reason, in spite of the fact that many more black men are killed by other black men and that many innocents and children are killed in these shootouts and drive-bys, many have chosen to champion the cause of the relative few killed by cops. It truly baffles me.

 

[rightwinger]

Perhaps. Was this a stated reason or speculation?

Did you see the location of where she was shot?

 

[WorldWatcher]

Did you see the location of where she was shot?

You mean in C the lobby door window literally 2 steps from the door to the House Chamber?

WW

 

[rightwinger]

The bigger question is why didn’t Trump do anything when Ashli was killed?
Does he have any compassion?

How could that have not triggered him to tell his TRUMPMob
Enough!