Kyle Rittenhouse was attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head

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First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

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The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

s9gr6liq5yk51.jpg

What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

xce54v60dfk51.jpg
What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.

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And what's plainly visible in that video is that no one other than Rosenbaum was chasing the teen murderer.

Looked like they were going the same way he was

LOLOL

Your observation proves you're insane as the people on the sidewalk never leave the sidewalk, even as Rosenbaum chases the teen murderer away from the sidewalk.

What’s your point?

That you're a nut who denies reality.

Because they are on a side walk they weren’t moving towards him? Huh? Lol

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, he ran away from the sidewalk. For them to follow him, they too would have had to leave the side walk. They didn't. You completely and utterly lack critical thinking.

You mean the mob? Hehe

Yes, the mob that didn't chase him.
 
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First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

View attachment 383306
The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

s9gr6liq5yk51.jpg

What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

xce54v60dfk51.jpg
What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.

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And what's plainly visible in that video is that no one other than Rosenbaum was chasing the teen murderer.

Looked like they were going the same way he was

LOLOL

Your observation proves you're insane as the people on the sidewalk never leave the sidewalk, even as Rosenbaum chases the teen murderer away from the sidewalk.

What’s your point?

That you're a nut who denies reality.

Because they are on a side walk they weren’t moving towards him? Huh? Lol

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, he ran away from the sidewalk. For them to follow him, they too would have had to leave the side walk. They didn't. You completely and utterly lack critical thinking.

You mean the mob? Hehe

Yes, the mob that didn't chase him.

So what were they doing with poles, guns and objects in bags?
 
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First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

View attachment 383306
The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

s9gr6liq5yk51.jpg

What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

xce54v60dfk51.jpg
What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.

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And what's plainly visible in that video is that no one other than Rosenbaum was chasing the teen murderer.

Looked like they were going the same way he was

LOLOL

Your observation proves you're insane as the people on the sidewalk never leave the sidewalk, even as Rosenbaum chases the teen murderer away from the sidewalk.

What’s your point?

That you're a nut who denies reality.

Because they are on a side walk they weren’t moving towards him? Huh? Lol

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, he ran away from the sidewalk. For them to follow him, they too would have had to leave the side walk. They didn't. You completely and utterly lack critical thinking.

You mean the mob? Hehe

Yes, the mob that didn't chase him.

So what were they doing with poles, guns and objects in bags?

Don't know but it doesn't matter since the mob didn't chase him until after he shot someone.
 
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First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

View attachment 383306
The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

s9gr6liq5yk51.jpg

What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

xce54v60dfk51.jpg
What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.

View attachment 384798

And what's plainly visible in that video is that no one other than Rosenbaum was chasing the teen murderer.

Looked like they were going the same way he was

LOLOL

Your observation proves you're insane as the people on the sidewalk never leave the sidewalk, even as Rosenbaum chases the teen murderer away from the sidewalk.

What’s your point?

That you're a nut who denies reality.

Because they are on a side walk they weren’t moving towards him? Huh? Lol

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, he ran away from the sidewalk. For them to follow him, they too would have had to leave the side walk. They didn't. You completely and utterly lack critical thinking.

You mean the mob? Hehe

Yes, the mob that didn't chase him.

So what were they doing with poles, guns and objects in bags?

Don't know but it doesn't matter since the mob didn't chase him until after he shot someone.

Well he defended him
Self, so they ran like chickens and dropped the poles
As you can hear lol
 
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First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

View attachment 383306
The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

s9gr6liq5yk51.jpg

What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

xce54v60dfk51.jpg
What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.

View attachment 384798

And what's plainly visible in that video is that no one other than Rosenbaum was chasing the teen murderer.

Looked like they were going the same way he was

LOLOL

Your observation proves you're insane as the people on the sidewalk never leave the sidewalk, even as Rosenbaum chases the teen murderer away from the sidewalk.

What’s your point?

That you're a nut who denies reality.

Because they are on a side walk they weren’t moving towards him? Huh? Lol

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, he ran away from the sidewalk. For them to follow him, they too would have had to leave the side walk. They didn't. You completely and utterly lack critical thinking.

You mean the mob? Hehe

Yes, the mob that didn't chase him.

So what were they doing with poles, guns and objects in bags?

Don't know but it doesn't matter since the mob didn't chase him until after he shot someone.

Well he defended him
Self, so they ran like chickens and dropped the poles
As you can hear lol

So? They still didn't chase him until he shot someone. Are you always this stupid?
 
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First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

View attachment 383306
The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

s9gr6liq5yk51.jpg

What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

xce54v60dfk51.jpg
What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.

View attachment 384798

And what's plainly visible in that video is that no one other than Rosenbaum was chasing the teen murderer.

Looked like they were going the same way he was

LOLOL

Your observation proves you're insane as the people on the sidewalk never leave the sidewalk, even as Rosenbaum chases the teen murderer away from the sidewalk.

What’s your point?

That you're a nut who denies reality.

Because they are on a side walk they weren’t moving towards him? Huh? Lol

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, he ran away from the sidewalk. For them to follow him, they too would have had to leave the side walk. They didn't. You completely and utterly lack critical thinking.

You mean the mob? Hehe

Yes, the mob that didn't chase him.

So what were they doing with poles, guns and objects in bags?

Don't know but it doesn't matter since the mob didn't chase him until after he shot someone.

Well he defended him
Self, so they ran like chickens and dropped the poles
As you can hear lol

So? They still didn't chase him until he shot someone. Are you always this stupid?

Lol he just started running .. they filled that area kinda fast don’t ya think lol
 
View attachment 384798View attachment 384799
First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

View attachment 383306
The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

s9gr6liq5yk51.jpg

What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

xce54v60dfk51.jpg
What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.

View attachment 384798

And what's plainly visible in that video is that no one other than Rosenbaum was chasing the teen murderer.

Looked like they were going the same way he was

LOLOL

Your observation proves you're insane as the people on the sidewalk never leave the sidewalk, even as Rosenbaum chases the teen murderer away from the sidewalk.

What’s your point?

That you're a nut who denies reality.

Because they are on a side walk they weren’t moving towards him? Huh? Lol

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, he ran away from the sidewalk. For them to follow him, they too would have had to leave the side walk. They didn't. You completely and utterly lack critical thinking.

You mean the mob? Hehe

Yes, the mob that didn't chase him.

So what were they doing with poles, guns and objects in bags?

Don't know but it doesn't matter since the mob didn't chase him until after he shot someone.

Well he defended him
Self, so they ran like chickens and dropped the poles
As you can hear lol

So? They still didn't chase him until he shot someone. Are you always this stupid?

Lol he just started running .. they filled that area kinda fast don’t ya think lol

He was chased by Rosenbaum. The others ran over after Rosenbaum was shot.
 
View attachment 384798View attachment 384799
First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

View attachment 383306
The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

s9gr6liq5yk51.jpg

What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

xce54v60dfk51.jpg
What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.

View attachment 384798

And what's plainly visible in that video is that no one other than Rosenbaum was chasing the teen murderer.

Looked like they were going the same way he was

LOLOL

Your observation proves you're insane as the people on the sidewalk never leave the sidewalk, even as Rosenbaum chases the teen murderer away from the sidewalk.

What’s your point?

That you're a nut who denies reality.

Because they are on a side walk they weren’t moving towards him? Huh? Lol

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, he ran away from the sidewalk. For them to follow him, they too would have had to leave the side walk. They didn't. You completely and utterly lack critical thinking.

You mean the mob? Hehe

Yes, the mob that didn't chase him.

So what were they doing with poles, guns and objects in bags?

Don't know but it doesn't matter since the mob didn't chase him until after he shot someone.

Well he defended him
Self, so they ran like chickens and dropped the poles
As you can hear lol

So? They still didn't chase him until he shot someone. Are you always this stupid?

Lol he just started running .. they filled that area kinda fast don’t ya think lol

He was chased by Rosenbaum. The others ran over after Rosenbaum was shot.

They all chased him some moved faster then others .. it was a mob with poles guns and objects
 
View attachment 384798View attachment 384799
First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

View attachment 383306
The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

s9gr6liq5yk51.jpg

What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

xce54v60dfk51.jpg
What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.

View attachment 384798

And what's plainly visible in that video is that no one other than Rosenbaum was chasing the teen murderer.

Looked like they were going the same way he was

LOLOL

Your observation proves you're insane as the people on the sidewalk never leave the sidewalk, even as Rosenbaum chases the teen murderer away from the sidewalk.

What’s your point?

That you're a nut who denies reality.

Because they are on a side walk they weren’t moving towards him? Huh? Lol

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, he ran away from the sidewalk. For them to follow him, they too would have had to leave the side walk. They didn't. You completely and utterly lack critical thinking.

You mean the mob? Hehe

Yes, the mob that didn't chase him.

So what were they doing with poles, guns and objects in bags?

Don't know but it doesn't matter since the mob didn't chase him until after he shot someone.

Well he defended him
Self, so they ran like chickens and dropped the poles
As you can hear lol

So? They still didn't chase him until he shot someone. Are you always this stupid?

Lol he just started running .. they filled that area kinda fast don’t ya think lol

He was chased by Rosenbaum. The others ran over after Rosenbaum was shot.

They all chased him some moved faster then others .. it was a mob with poles guns and objects

Nope, the only one to chase him was Rosenbaum. It's on video. If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie. :eusa_naughty:
 
View attachment 384798View attachment 384799
First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

View attachment 383306
The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

s9gr6liq5yk51.jpg

What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

xce54v60dfk51.jpg
What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.

View attachment 384798

And what's plainly visible in that video is that no one other than Rosenbaum was chasing the teen murderer.

Looked like they were going the same way he was

LOLOL

Your observation proves you're insane as the people on the sidewalk never leave the sidewalk, even as Rosenbaum chases the teen murderer away from the sidewalk.

What’s your point?

That you're a nut who denies reality.

Because they are on a side walk they weren’t moving towards him? Huh? Lol

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, he ran away from the sidewalk. For them to follow him, they too would have had to leave the side walk. They didn't. You completely and utterly lack critical thinking.

You mean the mob? Hehe

Yes, the mob that didn't chase him.

So what were they doing with poles, guns and objects in bags?

Don't know but it doesn't matter since the mob didn't chase him until after he shot someone.

Well he defended him
Self, so they ran like chickens and dropped the poles
As you can hear lol

So? They still didn't chase him until he shot someone. Are you always this stupid?

Lol he just started running .. they filled that area kinda fast don’t ya think lol

He was chased by Rosenbaum. The others ran over after Rosenbaum was shot.

They all chased him some moved faster then others .. it was a mob with poles guns and objects

Nope, the only one to chase him was Rosenbaum. It's on video. If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie. :eusa_naughty:
you mean he ran faster .. yes
 
Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.




You do realize that, r
Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.


You are retarded. IT was clearly self defense.


When you tell black men that rittenhouse was in the wrong, you are encouraging them to get themselves killed.

You do realize that, right?

Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.


You are retarded. IT was clearly self defense.


When you tell black men that rittenhouse was in the wrong, you are encouraging them to get themselves killed.

You do realize that, right?

Just out of curiosity, How would you know what black men are "encouraged by"?


Because I am a man, and i can see that someone telling me that I have the right to attack people and it is wrong of them to defend themselves against me, is an encouragement of me to commit such violence, and thus place myself in danger.

Why would you think that I could NOT know that? Because black men are such a different species that they are incomprehensible to a white guy?

Were you actually at the protest? Did anyone PERSONALLY attack YOU?

Or are you living vicariously through Rittenhouse?


Neither.

My point stands. When you tell a group of people that they have the right to violently attack other people, and indeed, it is morally and legally wrong of those people to defend themselves, you are encouraging those people to do that type of behavior.

And, as it is a lie, you are encouraging them to get themselves into situations that can lead to their deaths.


As we saw in kenosha.

And why would you IGNORANTLY claim that this is encouraging "Black men in general to get thmselves killed"?

That is an assumption which is rooted in your own ignorance of what YOU assume that black men in general think.

You don't know any more about what Black men" in general think "will get themselves killed over" than black men in general know about you and those like you think.

Your "point" only "stands" to be a testament to an ignorant statement on your part and that of others as to of what you "think" you believe that black men in general "think.".


You know Kat, the basis of the discussion on race here in America, going back at least to the 50s, if not earlier is that we are all basically the same, thus we should be equal.

That is an idea I was raised with and never seriously questioned.


But, you are making the argument that white and black men are so greatly different, that I as a white man, cannot hope to understand you, as a group.

I open to hearing your arguments. At first glance your position would explain a lot.


BUT, have you really considered the implications?

If you are correct, than America has been wrong on race and needs to rethink everything we have done, all the way back to BEFORE desegregation.

(not slavery, that argument was different and not based on equality so much as immorality)

I believe you are misunderstanding what I am stating. All day, everyday and without exception numeous people here bring up the "cultural" differences between the races.


That being said, it is obvious that the majority who post here do not believe that we are all the same, or even equal to begin with.

Where we ARE undeniably equal is that we ALL have the same rights under the constitution as we should.

Beyond that point, people are different and have different belief systems.

In the case of the shooter, I stated that I do not know any black males who feel strongly enough about his innocence or guilt that they would be "encouraged to get themselves killed over it".

From there, you made the decision to read farther into what I stated for your own reasons.

I've posted on message boards like this dating back to when the internet became accessible to the mainstream, and this forum, unlike the ones I've seen before, reminds me more of the pre civil rights era than any other that I've experienced.

I'm not certain what you are implying regarding "rethinking everything that America has "done" even prior to desegregation".

What has been "done" is to ensure equal rights under the law, and if one is a tax paying, law abiding citizen, that is a minimum right of citizenship.

I suspect that you are leaning towards stating that the country may be better off to return minorities to the same 2nd class citizenship that existed prior to the Civil rights era.


Your smear of the other posters on this site is just your opinion and wrong. Dismissed.


Beyond that, you attacked me for daring to imagine that I could understand what black males would think, hearing lyslander's urging to violence.


That was you being racist and wrong. My point stand. Shit talk like lyslander was doing, is getting people killed, in the streets.


Men, or people do not need to be told that they have the right to commit violence on people, just because those people disagree with them.

Lol! What "smear are you referring to? If you are denying that there are an abundance of people in this forum who DO NOT believe that we are all equal , then you are in denial to the point of hypocrisy, which speaks volumes about YOU.


And no, I did not "attack" you. I told you what I think, not what you want to hear. You're just hypersensitive and thin-skinned, which is not my problem.

If you think that is "racist", too bad.

For someone who whines incessantly about others being racist, you appear to live in a glass house.

Now, what are you implying regarding race being "rethought" even prior to desegregation?



Bringing up cultural differences, is not claiming that people are not equal. Are you serious not understanding that?


And you are making the claim that as a white man, I cannot know what will motivate a black man to kill.

THAT'S a pretty serious and alarming claim, which if true, makes living and working together a fool's dream.

I've stand by my position that I as a man, can empathize with and thus understand black men. Thus, I can live and work along side of them, with a reasonable expectation of being able to do so with a reasonable degree of safety.


You are arguing that I am wrong. That my attempts at understand are doomed to failure, because I am not black, and that thus, at any time, due to unknown reasons, and thus, from my perspective without warning or reason, the black man or men living near me might be motivated to kill.


I am will to listen to your supporting arguments. I will admit that your claim would explain a number of observed behaviors that I wanted to lump into either the mental health crisis or political warfare.


So, make your case. I am interested to hear what you have to say.
 
First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

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The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

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What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

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What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.


Lot of people around, and why did ritterhouse start running? Why was he chased? Why did someone throw that bag at him?

That was obviously a man forced away from his group by the police, being threaten by the mob and thus he ran.


And they chased him, and caught him and he had to defend himself.

He ran because Rosenbaum started chasing him. They ran about 130' before the teen murderer turned around and killed Rosenbaum. It's not entirely clear yet to the public why Rosenbaum decided to chase him. My own opinion, based on all the videos and some commentary, is that Rosenbaum may have believed the teen murderer was pointing his gun at people and that pissed off Rosenbaum, who appeared to have a very short temper. But that too remains to be seen.

YOu are one the wrong side.
Says you, someone who's on the wrong side from my vantage point.



What if it comes out that the crowd there was riling itself up to attack Rittenhouse, simply because he was not one of them, and that is why he ran, and Rosenbaum chased him, simply because he ran?

The mob is seen in many videos from that night and in none others are they seen attacking any of the folks that went there to protect property. So I don't believe the teen murderer was chased simply because he was not one of the rioters. I think there was a reason.

Rosenbaum is captured on video freaking out at someone for pointing his gun at people. That's clearly something that ticked him off. That may be why he started chasing the teen murderer.



1. I asked you what if it comes out that the crowd was riling itself up to attack and you respond that the video did not show anyone attacking. That was you dodging my question.

2. The mob didn't attack the group, because they were an armed group. Rittenhouse was alone, forced to be apart from the group, by the police. ALmost as though they were working together.

3. YOu just saying "murderer" over and over again, is you playing propaganda games, because you know you can't win the debate on the merits of your indefensible position, ie being against self defense.
 
You can't say it was used as a weapon when you don't even know what it is
Lol wtf there is video of it being used as a weapon .. of you see someone show with a gun but don’t know what Trump of gun is it not a weapon? Lol
Try again in English, comrade. I don't speak stupid.
Opps lol if you see somebody shot a gun and but you don’t know what type of gun is it not a weapon?
LOL

Dumbfuck, what kind of gun is not a weapon?
But you don’t know what type of gun it is, how can it be a weapon.. that’s your logic..
Dumbfuck, because all guns are weapons. :eusa_doh:
So isn’t a object in a bag being thrown at someone lol DO YOU GET IT YET!? Lol
Nope, not all objects are weapons. To constitute as a weapon, it would have to be something capable of harming the teen murderer. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Without knowing what it was, you can't say it's a weapon.


Only someone on the side of the criminals, would call a person a "murderer" for defending himself.
I can't help you're an idiot who can't fathom that not everyone agrees with you.


No, I understand that. I also understand that you can clearly see he was defending himself. Thus your position is an after the fact rationalization for the attack, not a real rational thought.
I believe he started out by defending himself but I also believe he used excessive force not protected by Wisconsin law; and that at some point during those 4 shots, it went from self defense to murder.


Your desire to second guess him, and his decisions made when his life was being threatened by a howling mob, while you are in the comfort of your own living room,

is completely wrong.

People are not held to that standard of behavior, not in a just or fair court.
Um, actually, he will be held to that same standard in court as jurors will have to decide if he responded with justifiable force.


He should not. That is not the normal standard self defense is supposed to be judged by.


It is insane to not make allowance for the fact that life and death situations are scary and chaotic.


And unjust.


YOu support injustice.
 
First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

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The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

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What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

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What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.
So if I shot a gun at someone running away and miss that’s not attempted murder? Lol
A gun is a weapon, a plastic bag is a container. :eusa_doh:


Almost anything can be used as a weapon. That statement of your was too stupid to be credible. That was you lying to support the bloodthirsty mob you support.
A plastic bag is not a weapon. Since you don't know what was inside of it, you can't say it was a weapon.
So if a gun is in a plastic bag and I shot it inside of a plastic bag it’s not a weapon? Lol WTF
My G-d, you're a nut. :cuckoo:

If there's a gun in a plastic bag, then you can say that's a weapon becsuse you know what's in the plastic bag and you know it's a weapon.

In Rosenbaum's case, you don't know what's in the bag so you can't say it was a weapon.

Savvy?
How could it be a gun you don’t know what type of gun it is lol this is your logic
Because YOU said it's a gun. Are YOU now confused by what YOU say?

:abgg2q.jpg:
Yes I know it’s a weapon BUT YOU don’t because you don’t know what type of gun it is.. this is what you’re saying about the weapon inside of the bag. Lol
Again, all guns are weapons. I can't help you are too stupid to follow your own argument.

:abgg2q.jpg:
So is it a object wrapped in a bag thrown at somebody meant to be used as a weapon that is shown on video
Nope, you still can’t say it's a weaoon without knowing what "it" is.

Besides that, once the "weapon" is already thrown, there is no longer any credible threat. The trumpfisti are grasping at straws.
There was a gun shot at him .. he had every right to assume the guy chasing him had a gun and shot in the chaos.. Here’s some advice to you left wingers don’t write fucking checks your asses can’t cash.. Second amendment is going nowhere
liar, that first shit was not at him. That too is on video where someone is seen firing a round into the air.
And how is he supposed to know. Is he supposed to hit pause go look at the video of instant replay? How about you lefties not try to lynch Republicans anymore
You're lying again. If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie. :eusa_naughty:

I never said he knew or was even supposed to know. He couldn’t know since he had his back to thd shooter.

But that's not what you said... you said someone shot at him. That's a lie, they shot a round towards the sky.
Who cares.. still doesn’t change the fact Kyle thought he was being shot at.. wtf is your point. Is he supposed to ask The pedophile to stop attacking him and go ask people who pulled the trigger it was directed towards me.. seriously lol go away
No one should care that you can't stop lying?

If the teen murderer were innocent, you wouldn't have to lie.
I didn’t lie, Kyle thought he was being shot at doesn’t matter what you think. If Kyle turned around and saw two guys with poles a guy with a gun and then a pedophile who’s not supposed to be around minors chasing him he would have every right to shoot them all. And there’s nothing you can do about it he’s going to be out of jail he’s going to be a billionaire he’s going to get the medal of freedom.. he’s going to be a cop..
Of course you lied. You said someone shot at him. That's a lie.
From Kyle‘s perspective somebody did shoot at him.. how is that a lie?
No one shot at him. You said someone did. You lied.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie. :eusa_naughty:
From Kyle’s perspective somebody did shoot at him that’s all that matters does it matter what I think doesn’t matter what I saw it matters a Kyle thought he was shoot at
That's what you're saying now. What you said initially was....

There was a gun shot at him ..

^^^ That's a lie. If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie. :eusa_naughty:
From Kyle’s perspective there was a gun shot at him. That’s all that matters pal.. hehe
LOL

I like how you think your lies don't matter.
Your right what matters is Kyle thought he was shot at.. hehe
By that token, Rosenbaum had every reason to believe he was being shot at too.
The ppl behind him was his buddies in the mob
You're lying again. If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie. :eusa_naughty:

Not everyone among them were Rosenbaum's "buddies." It's been reported that at least one armed person was with the teen murderer.
Link?
That’s the link to the police report lol
So? It says the teen murderer was not alone. So Rosenbaum also had reason to believe someone shot at him.
Circle him in the video
Who said he appears in the video?
Well if he’s not even there how could he pose a threat lol
Personally, I’d like to know what the cars did first?
 
Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.




You do realize that, r
Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.


You are retarded. IT was clearly self defense.


When you tell black men that rittenhouse was in the wrong, you are encouraging them to get themselves killed.

You do realize that, right?

Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.


You are retarded. IT was clearly self defense.


When you tell black men that rittenhouse was in the wrong, you are encouraging them to get themselves killed.

You do realize that, right?

Just out of curiosity, How would you know what black men are "encouraged by"?


Because I am a man, and i can see that someone telling me that I have the right to attack people and it is wrong of them to defend themselves against me, is an encouragement of me to commit such violence, and thus place myself in danger.

Why would you think that I could NOT know that? Because black men are such a different species that they are incomprehensible to a white guy?

Were you actually at the protest? Did anyone PERSONALLY attack YOU?

Or are you living vicariously through Rittenhouse?


Neither.

My point stands. When you tell a group of people that they have the right to violently attack other people, and indeed, it is morally and legally wrong of those people to defend themselves, you are encouraging those people to do that type of behavior.

And, as it is a lie, you are encouraging them to get themselves into situations that can lead to their deaths.


As we saw in kenosha.

And why would you IGNORANTLY claim that this is encouraging "Black men in general to get thmselves killed"?

That is an assumption which is rooted in your own ignorance of what YOU assume that black men in general think.

You don't know any more about what Black men" in general think "will get themselves killed over" than black men in general know about you and those like you think.

Your "point" only "stands" to be a testament to an ignorant statement on your part and that of others as to of what you "think" you believe that black men in general "think.".


You know Kat, the basis of the discussion on race here in America, going back at least to the 50s, if not earlier is that we are all basically the same, thus we should be equal.

That is an idea I was raised with and never seriously questioned.


But, you are making the argument that white and black men are so greatly different, that I as a white man, cannot hope to understand you, as a group.

I open to hearing your arguments. At first glance your position would explain a lot.


BUT, have you really considered the implications?

If you are correct, than America has been wrong on race and needs to rethink everything we have done, all the way back to BEFORE desegregation.

(not slavery, that argument was different and not based on equality so much as immorality)

I believe you are misunderstanding what I am stating. All day, everyday and without exception numeous people here bring up the "cultural" differences between the races.


That being said, it is obvious that the majority who post here do not believe that we are all the same, or even equal to begin with.

Where we ARE undeniably equal is that we ALL have the same rights under the constitution as we should.

Beyond that point, people are different and have different belief systems.

In the case of the shooter, I stated that I do not know any black males who feel strongly enough about his innocence or guilt that they would be "encouraged to get themselves killed over it".

From there, you made the decision to read farther into what I stated for your own reasons.

I've posted on message boards like this dating back to when the internet became accessible to the mainstream, and this forum, unlike the ones I've seen before, reminds me more of the pre civil rights era than any other that I've experienced.

I'm not certain what you are implying regarding "rethinking everything that America has "done" even prior to desegregation".

What has been "done" is to ensure equal rights under the law, and if one is a tax paying, law abiding citizen, that is a minimum right of citizenship.

I suspect that you are leaning towards stating that the country may be better off to return minorities to the same 2nd class citizenship that existed prior to the Civil rights era.


Your smear of the other posters on this site is just your opinion and wrong. Dismissed.


Beyond that, you attacked me for daring to imagine that I could understand what black males would think, hearing lyslander's urging to violence.


That was you being racist and wrong. My point stand. Shit talk like lyslander was doing, is getting people killed, in the streets.


Men, or people do not need to be told that they have the right to commit violence on people, just because those people disagree with them.

Lol! What "smear are you referring to? If you are denying that there are an abundance of people in this forum who DO NOT believe that we are all equal , then you are in denial to the point of hypocrisy, which speaks volumes about YOU.


And no, I did not "attack" you. I told you what I think, not what you want to hear. You're just hypersensitive and thin-skinned, which is not my problem.

If you think that is "racist", too bad.

For someone who whines incessantly about others being racist, you appear to live in a glass house.

Now, what are you implying regarding race being "rethought" even prior to desegregation?



Bringing up cultural differences, is not claiming that people are not equal. Are you serious not understanding that?


And you are making the claim that as a white man, I cannot know what will motivate a black man to kill.

THAT'S a pretty serious and alarming claim, which if true, makes living and working together a fool's dream.

I've stand by my position that I as a man, can empathize with and thus understand black men. Thus, I can live and work along side of them, with a reasonable expectation of being able to do so with a reasonable degree of safety.


You are arguing that I am wrong. That my attempts at understand are doomed to failure, because I am not black, and that thus, at any time, due to unknown reasons, and thus, from my perspective without warning or reason, the black man or men living near me might be motivated to kill.


I am will to listen to your supporting arguments. I will admit that your claim would explain a number of observed behaviors that I wanted to lump into either the mental health crisis or political warfare.


So, make your case. I am interested to hear what you have to say.

In a very simple nutshell, without wasting words,, my observation was that you did not qualify your statement with the word "some". Had you stated "black men living near me", I can understand that.

I can also state that within my circle, in a different area this case is irrelevant.

I'm quite sure that you are able work in the same environment as black men, because doing so is required in order to earn a living.

You might even be personally acquainted with some.

What I don't understand is why it is so alarming that geographical differences typically have an impact on what is important to an individual.
What’s your point exactly? Do you have one?
 
Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.




You do realize that, r
Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.


You are retarded. IT was clearly self defense.


When you tell black men that rittenhouse was in the wrong, you are encouraging them to get themselves killed.

You do realize that, right?

Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.


You are retarded. IT was clearly self defense.


When you tell black men that rittenhouse was in the wrong, you are encouraging them to get themselves killed.

You do realize that, right?

Just out of curiosity, How would you know what black men are "encouraged by"?


Because I am a man, and i can see that someone telling me that I have the right to attack people and it is wrong of them to defend themselves against me, is an encouragement of me to commit such violence, and thus place myself in danger.

Why would you think that I could NOT know that? Because black men are such a different species that they are incomprehensible to a white guy?

Were you actually at the protest? Did anyone PERSONALLY attack YOU?

Or are you living vicariously through Rittenhouse?


Neither.

My point stands. When you tell a group of people that they have the right to violently attack other people, and indeed, it is morally and legally wrong of those people to defend themselves, you are encouraging those people to do that type of behavior.

And, as it is a lie, you are encouraging them to get themselves into situations that can lead to their deaths.


As we saw in kenosha.

And why would you IGNORANTLY claim that this is encouraging "Black men in general to get thmselves killed"?

That is an assumption which is rooted in your own ignorance of what YOU assume that black men in general think.

You don't know any more about what Black men" in general think "will get themselves killed over" than black men in general know about you and those like you think.

Your "point" only "stands" to be a testament to an ignorant statement on your part and that of others as to of what you "think" you believe that black men in general "think.".


You know Kat, the basis of the discussion on race here in America, going back at least to the 50s, if not earlier is that we are all basically the same, thus we should be equal.

That is an idea I was raised with and never seriously questioned.


But, you are making the argument that white and black men are so greatly different, that I as a white man, cannot hope to understand you, as a group.

I open to hearing your arguments. At first glance your position would explain a lot.


BUT, have you really considered the implications?

If you are correct, than America has been wrong on race and needs to rethink everything we have done, all the way back to BEFORE desegregation.

(not slavery, that argument was different and not based on equality so much as immorality)

I believe you are misunderstanding what I am stating. All day, everyday and without exception numeous people here bring up the "cultural" differences between the races.


That being said, it is obvious that the majority who post here do not believe that we are all the same, or even equal to begin with.

Where we ARE undeniably equal is that we ALL have the same rights under the constitution as we should.

Beyond that point, people are different and have different belief systems.

In the case of the shooter, I stated that I do not know any black males who feel strongly enough about his innocence or guilt that they would be "encouraged to get themselves killed over it".

From there, you made the decision to read farther into what I stated for your own reasons.

I've posted on message boards like this dating back to when the internet became accessible to the mainstream, and this forum, unlike the ones I've seen before, reminds me more of the pre civil rights era than any other that I've experienced.

I'm not certain what you are implying regarding "rethinking everything that America has "done" even prior to desegregation".

What has been "done" is to ensure equal rights under the law, and if one is a tax paying, law abiding citizen, that is a minimum right of citizenship.

I suspect that you are leaning towards stating that the country may be better off to return minorities to the same 2nd class citizenship that existed prior to the Civil rights era.


Your smear of the other posters on this site is just your opinion and wrong. Dismissed.


Beyond that, you attacked me for daring to imagine that I could understand what black males would think, hearing lyslander's urging to violence.


That was you being racist and wrong. My point stand. Shit talk like lyslander was doing, is getting people killed, in the streets.


Men, or people do not need to be told that they have the right to commit violence on people, just because those people disagree with them.

Lol! What "smear are you referring to? If you are denying that there are an abundance of people in this forum who DO NOT believe that we are all equal , then you are in denial to the point of hypocrisy, which speaks volumes about YOU.


And no, I did not "attack" you. I told you what I think, not what you want to hear. You're just hypersensitive and thin-skinned, which is not my problem.

If you think that is "racist", too bad.

For someone who whines incessantly about others being racist, you appear to live in a glass house.

Now, what are you implying regarding race being "rethought" even prior to desegregation?



Bringing up cultural differences, is not claiming that people are not equal. Are you serious not understanding that?


And you are making the claim that as a white man, I cannot know what will motivate a black man to kill.

THAT'S a pretty serious and alarming claim, which if true, makes living and working together a fool's dream.

I've stand by my position that I as a man, can empathize with and thus understand black men. Thus, I can live and work along side of them, with a reasonable expectation of being able to do so with a reasonable degree of safety.


You are arguing that I am wrong. That my attempts at understand are doomed to failure, because I am not black, and that thus, at any time, due to unknown reasons, and thus, from my perspective without warning or reason, the black man or men living near me might be motivated to kill.


I am will to listen to your supporting arguments. I will admit that your claim would explain a number of observed behaviors that I wanted to lump into either the mental health crisis or political warfare.


So, make your case. I am interested to hear what you have to say.

In a very simple nutshell, without wasting words,, my observation was that you did not qualify your statement with the word "some". Had you stated "black men living near me", I can understand that.

I can also state that within my circle, in a different area this case is irrelevant.

I'm quite sure that you are able work in the same environment as black men, because doing so is required in order to earn a living.

You might even be personally acquainted with some.
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What I don't understand is why it is so alarming that geographical differences typically have an impact on what is important to an individual.
What’s your point exactly? Do you have one?

If what I stated is too difficult for you to understand, what are you asking me to do?
Use single syllable words?
 
First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

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The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

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What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

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What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.
So if I shot a gun at someone running away and miss that’s not attempted murder? Lol
A gun is a weapon, a plastic bag is a container. :eusa_doh:


Almost anything can be used as a weapon. That statement of your was too stupid to be credible. That was you lying to support the bloodthirsty mob you support.
A plastic bag is not a weapon. Since you don't know what was inside of it, you can't say it was a weapon.
So if a gun is in a plastic bag and I shot it inside of a plastic bag it’s not a weapon? Lol WTF
My G-d, you're a nut. :cuckoo:

If there's a gun in a plastic bag, then you can say that's a weapon becsuse you know what's in the plastic bag and you know it's a weapon.

In Rosenbaum's case, you don't know what's in the bag so you can't say it was a weapon.

Savvy?
How could it be a gun you don’t know what type of gun it is lol this is your logic
Because YOU said it's a gun. Are YOU now confused by what YOU say?

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Yes I know it’s a weapon BUT YOU don’t because you don’t know what type of gun it is.. this is what you’re saying about the weapon inside of the bag. Lol
Again, all guns are weapons. I can't help you are too stupid to follow your own argument.

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So is it a object wrapped in a bag thrown at somebody meant to be used as a weapon that is shown on video
Nope, you still can’t say it's a weaoon without knowing what "it" is.

Besides that, once the "weapon" is already thrown, there is no longer any credible threat. The trumpfisti are grasping at straws.
There was a gun shot at him .. he had every right to assume the guy chasing him had a gun and shot in the chaos.. Here’s some advice to you left wingers don’t write fucking checks your asses can’t cash.. Second amendment is going nowhere
liar, that first shit was not at him. That too is on video where someone is seen firing a round into the air.
And how is he supposed to know. Is he supposed to hit pause go look at the video of instant replay? How about you lefties not try to lynch Republicans anymore
You're lying again. If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie. :eusa_naughty:

I never said he knew or was even supposed to know. He couldn’t know since he had his back to thd shooter.

But that's not what you said... you said someone shot at him. That's a lie, they shot a round towards the sky.
Who cares.. still doesn’t change the fact Kyle thought he was being shot at.. wtf is your point. Is he supposed to ask The pedophile to stop attacking him and go ask people who pulled the trigger it was directed towards me.. seriously lol go away
No one should care that you can't stop lying?

If the teen murderer were innocent, you wouldn't have to lie.
I didn’t lie, Kyle thought he was being shot at doesn’t matter what you think. If Kyle turned around and saw two guys with poles a guy with a gun and then a pedophile who’s not supposed to be around minors chasing him he would have every right to shoot them all. And there’s nothing you can do about it he’s going to be out of jail he’s going to be a billionaire he’s going to get the medal of freedom.. he’s going to be a cop..
Of course you lied. You said someone shot at him. That's a lie.
From Kyle‘s perspective somebody did shoot at him.. how is that a lie?
No one shot at him. You said someone did. You lied.

If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie. :eusa_naughty:
From Kyle’s perspective somebody did shoot at him that’s all that matters does it matter what I think doesn’t matter what I saw it matters a Kyle thought he was shoot at
That's what you're saying now. What you said initially was....

There was a gun shot at him ..

^^^ That's a lie. If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie. :eusa_naughty:
From Kyle’s perspective there was a gun shot at him. That’s all that matters pal.. hehe
LOL

I like how you think your lies don't matter.
Your right what matters is Kyle thought he was shot at.. hehe
By that token, Rosenbaum had every reason to believe he was being shot at too.
The ppl behind him was his buddies in the mob
You're lying again. If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie. :eusa_naughty:

Not everyone among them were Rosenbaum's "buddies." It's been reported that at least one armed person was with the teen murderer.
Link?
That’s the link to the police report lol
So? It says the teen murderer was not alone. So Rosenbaum also had reason to believe someone shot at him.
Circle him in the video
Who said he appears in the video?
Well if he’s not even there how could he pose a threat lol
Personally, I’d like to know what the cars did first?
True
 
Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.




You do realize that, r
Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.


You are retarded. IT was clearly self defense.


When you tell black men that rittenhouse was in the wrong, you are encouraging them to get themselves killed.

You do realize that, right?

Rittenhouse was a self-styled vigilante who murdered two unarmed protesters. That's what matters legally. Rittenhouse crossed state lines with an illegal weapon.


You are retarded. IT was clearly self defense.


When you tell black men that rittenhouse was in the wrong, you are encouraging them to get themselves killed.

You do realize that, right?

Just out of curiosity, How would you know what black men are "encouraged by"?


Because I am a man, and i can see that someone telling me that I have the right to attack people and it is wrong of them to defend themselves against me, is an encouragement of me to commit such violence, and thus place myself in danger.

Why would you think that I could NOT know that? Because black men are such a different species that they are incomprehensible to a white guy?

Were you actually at the protest? Did anyone PERSONALLY attack YOU?

Or are you living vicariously through Rittenhouse?


Neither.

My point stands. When you tell a group of people that they have the right to violently attack other people, and indeed, it is morally and legally wrong of those people to defend themselves, you are encouraging those people to do that type of behavior.

And, as it is a lie, you are encouraging them to get themselves into situations that can lead to their deaths.


As we saw in kenosha.

And why would you IGNORANTLY claim that this is encouraging "Black men in general to get thmselves killed"?

That is an assumption which is rooted in your own ignorance of what YOU assume that black men in general think.

You don't know any more about what Black men" in general think "will get themselves killed over" than black men in general know about you and those like you think.

Your "point" only "stands" to be a testament to an ignorant statement on your part and that of others as to of what you "think" you believe that black men in general "think.".


You know Kat, the basis of the discussion on race here in America, going back at least to the 50s, if not earlier is that we are all basically the same, thus we should be equal.

That is an idea I was raised with and never seriously questioned.


But, you are making the argument that white and black men are so greatly different, that I as a white man, cannot hope to understand you, as a group.

I open to hearing your arguments. At first glance your position would explain a lot.


BUT, have you really considered the implications?

If you are correct, than America has been wrong on race and needs to rethink everything we have done, all the way back to BEFORE desegregation.

(not slavery, that argument was different and not based on equality so much as immorality)

I believe you are misunderstanding what I am stating. All day, everyday and without exception numeous people here bring up the "cultural" differences between the races.


That being said, it is obvious that the majority who post here do not believe that we are all the same, or even equal to begin with.

Where we ARE undeniably equal is that we ALL have the same rights under the constitution as we should.

Beyond that point, people are different and have different belief systems.

In the case of the shooter, I stated that I do not know any black males who feel strongly enough about his innocence or guilt that they would be "encouraged to get themselves killed over it".

From there, you made the decision to read farther into what I stated for your own reasons.

I've posted on message boards like this dating back to when the internet became accessible to the mainstream, and this forum, unlike the ones I've seen before, reminds me more of the pre civil rights era than any other that I've experienced.

I'm not certain what you are implying regarding "rethinking everything that America has "done" even prior to desegregation".

What has been "done" is to ensure equal rights under the law, and if one is a tax paying, law abiding citizen, that is a minimum right of citizenship.

I suspect that you are leaning towards stating that the country may be better off to return minorities to the same 2nd class citizenship that existed prior to the Civil rights era.


Your smear of the other posters on this site is just your opinion and wrong. Dismissed.


Beyond that, you attacked me for daring to imagine that I could understand what black males would think, hearing lyslander's urging to violence.


That was you being racist and wrong. My point stand. Shit talk like lyslander was doing, is getting people killed, in the streets.


Men, or people do not need to be told that they have the right to commit violence on people, just because those people disagree with them.

Lol! What "smear are you referring to? If you are denying that there are an abundance of people in this forum who DO NOT believe that we are all equal , then you are in denial to the point of hypocrisy, which speaks volumes about YOU.


And no, I did not "attack" you. I told you what I think, not what you want to hear. You're just hypersensitive and thin-skinned, which is not my problem.

If you think that is "racist", too bad.

For someone who whines incessantly about others being racist, you appear to live in a glass house.

Now, what are you implying regarding race being "rethought" even prior to desegregation?



Bringing up cultural differences, is not claiming that people are not equal. Are you serious not understanding that?


And you are making the claim that as a white man, I cannot know what will motivate a black man to kill.

THAT'S a pretty serious and alarming claim, which if true, makes living and working together a fool's dream.

I've stand by my position that I as a man, can empathize with and thus understand black men. Thus, I can live and work along side of them, with a reasonable expectation of being able to do so with a reasonable degree of safety.


You are arguing that I am wrong. That my attempts at understand are doomed to failure, because I am not black, and that thus, at any time, due to unknown reasons, and thus, from my perspective without warning or reason, the black man or men living near me might be motivated to kill.


I am will to listen to your supporting arguments. I will admit that your claim would explain a number of observed behaviors that I wanted to lump into either the mental health crisis or political warfare.


So, make your case. I am interested to hear what you have to say.

In a very simple nutshell, without wasting words,, my observation was that you did not qualify your statement with the word "some". Had you stated "black men living near me", I can understand that.

I can also state that within my circle, in a different area this case is irrelevant.

I'm quite sure that you are able work in the same environment as black men, because doing so is required in order to earn a living.

You might even be personally acquainted with some.
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What I don't understand is why it is so alarming that geographical differences typically have an impact on what is important to an individual.
What’s your point exactly? Do you have one?

If what I stated is too difficult for you to understand, what are you asking me to do?
Use single syllable words?
It doesn’t say anything. There’s that
 
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First shooting
While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.

Second shooting
Mr. Rittenhouse seems to make a phone call and then flees the scene. Several people chase him, some shouting, “That’s the shooter!”

As Mr. Rittenhouse is running, he trips and falls to the ground. He fires four shots as three people rush toward him. One person appears to be hit in the chest and falls to the ground. Another, who is carrying a handgun, is hit in the arm and runs away.

Mr. Rittenhouse’s gunfire is mixed in with the sound of at least 16 other gunshots that ring out during this time.


I've heard various comments from people, including Trump, that Kyle Rittenhouse was only "defending" himself from attacks. However, in reality, it appears that Rittenhouse was only attacked "after" he had already shot someone in the head.

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The first guy tried to hit him in the head with a brick....like Reginald Denny style....Mr. Denny is still having trouble walking and speaking...in case you went to public school and don't know who Denny is look it up.....tell you what...I'll give you a rifle and I will attack you with a brick from behind....what would you do?...take the hit?....
Reginald Denny wasnt attacking anybody, he was just driving a truck.

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What a coincidence. Mr. Rittenhouse wasn't attacking anyone when someone tried to hit him with a brick, either.
There was no brick thrown at him. Cons just can't stop lying.

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What’s in the bag? Let me sit back on my coffee while you research. Hehe
Not a brick. You think that's a hammer though, right? :abgg2q.jpg:
Does the object inside really matter.. it was still a weapon


Faun believes that a person being attacked, has a duty to be able to see inside of the bag and just know whether or not it is a brick or a stuffed teddy bear.

And unless he can provide x-ray vision based photos, downloaded from his brain via bat computer, his right to self defense is not applicable.
LOL
I like how you have to make up my position in order to win an argument. :abgg2q.jpg:


You're the one arguing about what is inside the bag, not me. I just pointed out your unstated but required premise, for your argument to make any "sense".
It matters not because the bag didn't hit the teen murderer nor did the teen murderer fire his weapon because a bag was thrown at him.


A mob in chasing you and now a mob is chasing you and throwing things at you and you hear gunshots coming from the mob that is chasing you.


And you don't think that having "things thrown at you" in that setting is relevant?

Sure you don't.


What this is, is you supporting your mob and the idea that your mob has the moral and legal right to rule the streets and beat to death anyone that it chooses, so as to terrorize and silence your political enemies.


But, it's not working. People are fighting back. So, the question now is, are you prepared to have your people die in the pursuit of political power. Are you that certain that you cannot win an election based on the merits of your ideas?
One person is not a mob. There was no one else with Rosenbaum chasing the teen murderer.

An interesting claim. And completely insane.

Being insane will not change things when the shit gets real and the people that are stupid enough to try to act out your ideas, find themselves facing someone prepared to defend themselves.


At least some of them will die. And for what?

Why are you pissing away the lives of your people?
LOLOL

You're crazy enough to think pointing out to you one person does not constitute a mob, is insane? That kinda makes you insane.

mob
  1. a large and disorderly crowd of people


I think you claiming something that we all know to be a lie, is insane of you.
I told no lie. I pointed out that one person is not a mob, that's true. And I pointed out you can't say something is a weapon when you can't say what that something is. That's also true.


The Ritterhouse managed to run away enough that, for a moment, there was only one other person in the video clip with him, does not mean that he was not being pursued by the mob.

Your sophist nonsense in defense of the violent mob, is just you admitting what side you are on.
Here's the beginning of the conflict between Rosenbaum and the the teen murderer. There was no one else chasing him. This matches up with an eyewitness account according to the charging document.



And while I condemn the mob's violent actions, I don't condemn their attempts to disarm the teen murderer after they saw him shoot Rosenbaum.

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And what's plainly visible in that video is that no one other than Rosenbaum was chasing the teen murderer.

Looked like they were going the same way he was

LOLOL

Your observation proves you're insane as the people on the sidewalk never leave the sidewalk, even as Rosenbaum chases the teen murderer away from the sidewalk.

What’s your point?

That you're a nut who denies reality.

Because they are on a side walk they weren’t moving towards him? Huh? Lol

LOLOL

Dumbfuck, he ran away from the sidewalk. For them to follow him, they too would have had to leave the side walk. They didn't. You completely and utterly lack critical thinking.

You mean the mob? Hehe

Yes, the mob that didn't chase him.

So what were they doing with poles, guns and objects in bags?

Don't know but it doesn't matter since the mob didn't chase him until after he shot someone.

Well he defended him
Self, so they ran like chickens and dropped the poles
As you can hear lol

So? They still didn't chase him until he shot someone. Are you always this stupid?

Lol he just started running .. they filled that area kinda fast don’t ya think lol

He was chased by Rosenbaum. The others ran over after Rosenbaum was shot.

They all chased him some moved faster then others .. it was a mob with poles guns and objects

Nope, the only one to chase him was Rosenbaum. It's on video. If truth and reality were on your side, you wouldn't have to lie. :eusa_naughty:


There is no lie.

From the New York Times:

While Mr. Rittenhouse is being pursued by the group, an unknown gunman fires into the air, though it’s unclear why. The weapon’s muzzle flash appears in footage filmed at the scene.

Mr. Rittenhouse turns toward the sound of gunfire as another pursuer lunges toward him from the same direction. Mr. Rittenhouse then fires four times, and appears to shoot the man in the head.


I guess they don't know how to watch video either.
 
You can't say it was used as a weapon when you don't even know what it is
Lol wtf there is video of it being used as a weapon .. of you see someone show with a gun but don’t know what Trump of gun is it not a weapon? Lol
Try again in English, comrade. I don't speak stupid.
Opps lol if you see somebody shot a gun and but you don’t know what type of gun is it not a weapon?
LOL

Dumbfuck, what kind of gun is not a weapon?
But you don’t know what type of gun it is, how can it be a weapon.. that’s your logic..
Dumbfuck, because all guns are weapons. :eusa_doh:
So isn’t a object in a bag being thrown at someone lol DO YOU GET IT YET!? Lol
Nope, not all objects are weapons. To constitute as a weapon, it would have to be something capable of harming the teen murderer. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. Without knowing what it was, you can't say it's a weapon.


Only someone on the side of the criminals, would call a person a "murderer" for defending himself.
I can't help you're an idiot who can't fathom that not everyone agrees with you.


No, I understand that. I also understand that you can clearly see he was defending himself. Thus your position is an after the fact rationalization for the attack, not a real rational thought.
I believe he started out by defending himself but I also believe he used excessive force not protected by Wisconsin law; and that at some point during those 4 shots, it went from self defense to murder.


Your desire to second guess him, and his decisions made when his life was being threatened by a howling mob, while you are in the comfort of your own living room,

is completely wrong.

People are not held to that standard of behavior, not in a just or fair court.
Um, actually, he will be held to that same standard in court as jurors will have to decide if he responded with justifiable force.


He should not. That is not the normal standard self defense is supposed to be judged by.


It is insane to not make allowance for the fact that life and death situations are scary and chaotic.


And unjust.


YOu support injustice.

This was an interesting analysis:


You'll notice the claim that despite the fact he was illegally carrying a firearm, he can still defend himself. Will be interesting to see how this plays out in court.
 

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