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It's good that the video showed exactly what happened. That's why I'm surprised that cops are whining so much about people videoing them.
It's good that the video showed exactly what happened. That's why I'm surprised that cops are whining so much about people videoing them.
Cops only "whine" when whoever is doing to filming is getting in the way of their duty. Fact is every time you get pulled over, you are being filmed and now most cops have body cams. I'd be willing to bet that videos have exonerated more cops than they've convicted.
It's good that the video showed exactly what happened. That's why I'm surprised that cops are whining so much about people videoing them.
Cops only "whine" when whoever is doing to filming is getting in the way of their duty. Fact is every time you get pulled over, you are being filmed and now most cops have body cams. I'd be willing to bet that videos have exonerated more cops than they've convicted.
I'm all for video. However, when cops refuse to do their jobs because they are afraid of being caught abusing their power, we have a problem. Those cops should be fired and replaced with cops that aren't as likely to break the law.
The problem I see as to why they don't like every tom, dick, and harry to film, is those same people do not catch an altercation from its beginning, and can give rise to false charges against themselves.
The problem I see as to why they don't like every tom, dick, and harry to film, is those same people do not catch an altercation from its beginning, and can give rise to false charges against themselves.
Right. They don't want to take the chance that their inappropriate behavior is exposed. Sure, cops deal with people who do bad things that make them mad. It doesn't give them an excuse to break the law themselves. Behaving properly no matter what the bad guy did is part of the job. If they can't do that, they need another job.
‘YouTube effect’ has left police officers under siege, law enforcement leaders sayIt's good that the video showed exactly what happened. That's why I'm surprised that cops are whining so much about people videoing them.
Cops only "whine" when whoever is doing to filming is getting in the way of their duty. Fact is every time you get pulled over, you are being filmed and now most cops have body cams. I'd be willing to bet that videos have exonerated more cops than they've convicted.
I'm all for video. However, when cops refuse to do their jobs because they are afraid of being caught abusing their power, we have a problem. Those cops should be fired and replaced with cops that aren't as likely to break the law.
Show me the evidence where cops have refused to do their job because they were being filmed.
‘YouTube effect’ has left police officers under siege, law enforcement leaders sayIt's good that the video showed exactly what happened. That's why I'm surprised that cops are whining so much about people videoing them.
Cops only "whine" when whoever is doing to filming is getting in the way of their duty. Fact is every time you get pulled over, you are being filmed and now most cops have body cams. I'd be willing to bet that videos have exonerated more cops than they've convicted.
I'm all for video. However, when cops refuse to do their jobs because they are afraid of being caught abusing their power, we have a problem. Those cops should be fired and replaced with cops that aren't as likely to break the law.
Show me the evidence where cops have refused to do their job because they were being filmed.
‘YouTube effect’ has left police officers under siege, law enforcement leaders sayIt's good that the video showed exactly what happened. That's why I'm surprised that cops are whining so much about people videoing them.
Cops only "whine" when whoever is doing to filming is getting in the way of their duty. Fact is every time you get pulled over, you are being filmed and now most cops have body cams. I'd be willing to bet that videos have exonerated more cops than they've convicted.
I'm all for video. However, when cops refuse to do their jobs because they are afraid of being caught abusing their power, we have a problem. Those cops should be fired and replaced with cops that aren't as likely to break the law.
Show me the evidence where cops have refused to do their job because they were being filmed.
Big fail on your part.
From your link:
"That was the unifying — and controversial — theory reached Wednesday at a private meeting of more than 100 of the nation’s top law enforcement officers and politicians."
"There is no evidence of a broad retraction of police engagement with the public in major cities, and no participant in Wednesday’s summit presented a single example of lackluster policing that somehow contributed to a violent crime."
‘YouTube effect’ has left police officers under siege, law enforcement leaders sayCops only "whine" when whoever is doing to filming is getting in the way of their duty. Fact is every time you get pulled over, you are being filmed and now most cops have body cams. I'd be willing to bet that videos have exonerated more cops than they've convicted.
I'm all for video. However, when cops refuse to do their jobs because they are afraid of being caught abusing their power, we have a problem. Those cops should be fired and replaced with cops that aren't as likely to break the law.
Show me the evidence where cops have refused to do their job because they were being filmed.
Big fail on your part.
From your link:
"That was the unifying — and controversial — theory reached Wednesday at a private meeting of more than 100 of the nation’s top law enforcement officers and politicians."
"There is no evidence of a broad retraction of police engagement with the public in major cities, and no participant in Wednesday’s summit presented a single example of lackluster policing that somehow contributed to a violent crime."
You tried really hard to find something to pick out to justify your claims, but not hard enough.
The idea that cops were backing off because of Videos
"That was the unifying — and controversial — theory reached Wednesday at a private meeting of more than 100 of the nation’s top law enforcement officers and politicians."
And you should have read a little further for your next example
There is no evidence of a broad retraction of police engagement with the public in major cities, and no participant in Wednesday’s summit presented a single example of lackluster policing that somehow contributed to a violent crime.
Rather, chiefs and elected officials spoke broadly of a changed atmosphere in major city police departments over the past year amid high-profile police-involved shootings and in-custody deaths that led to riots in Ferguson, Missouri and Baltimore.
Chiefs said patrol officers still do their jobs, clocking in and policing their beats. But fewer take extra steps such as confronting a group loitering on a sidewalk late at night that might glean intelligence or lead to arrests, for fear that any altercations that ensued would be uploaded to the Internet.
‘YouTube effect’ has left police officers under siege, law enforcement leaders sayI'm all for video. However, when cops refuse to do their jobs because they are afraid of being caught abusing their power, we have a problem. Those cops should be fired and replaced with cops that aren't as likely to break the law.
Show me the evidence where cops have refused to do their job because they were being filmed.
Big fail on your part.
From your link:
"That was the unifying — and controversial — theory reached Wednesday at a private meeting of more than 100 of the nation’s top law enforcement officers and politicians."
"There is no evidence of a broad retraction of police engagement with the public in major cities, and no participant in Wednesday’s summit presented a single example of lackluster policing that somehow contributed to a violent crime."
You tried really hard to find something to pick out to justify your claims, but not hard enough.
The idea that cops were backing off because of Videos
"That was the unifying — and controversial — theory reached Wednesday at a private meeting of more than 100 of the nation’s top law enforcement officers and politicians."
And you should have read a little further for your next example
There is no evidence of a broad retraction of police engagement with the public in major cities, and no participant in Wednesday’s summit presented a single example of lackluster policing that somehow contributed to a violent crime.
Rather, chiefs and elected officials spoke broadly of a changed atmosphere in major city police departments over the past year amid high-profile police-involved shootings and in-custody deaths that led to riots in Ferguson, Missouri and Baltimore.
Chiefs said patrol officers still do their jobs, clocking in and policing their beats. But fewer take extra steps such as confronting a group loitering on a sidewalk late at night that might glean intelligence or lead to arrests, for fear that any altercations that ensued would be uploaded to the Internet.
Nothing in the article you posted stated that cops were refusing to do their jobs because of being video taped which was your claim.
" However, when cops refuse to do their jobs because they are afraid of being caught abusing their power, we have a problem".
They may take fewer extra steps, but they are not refusing to do their jobs.
‘YouTube effect’ has left police officers under siege, law enforcement leaders sayShow me the evidence where cops have refused to do their job because they were being filmed.
Big fail on your part.
From your link:
"That was the unifying — and controversial — theory reached Wednesday at a private meeting of more than 100 of the nation’s top law enforcement officers and politicians."
"There is no evidence of a broad retraction of police engagement with the public in major cities, and no participant in Wednesday’s summit presented a single example of lackluster policing that somehow contributed to a violent crime."
You tried really hard to find something to pick out to justify your claims, but not hard enough.
The idea that cops were backing off because of Videos
"That was the unifying — and controversial — theory reached Wednesday at a private meeting of more than 100 of the nation’s top law enforcement officers and politicians."
And you should have read a little further for your next example
There is no evidence of a broad retraction of police engagement with the public in major cities, and no participant in Wednesday’s summit presented a single example of lackluster policing that somehow contributed to a violent crime.
Rather, chiefs and elected officials spoke broadly of a changed atmosphere in major city police departments over the past year amid high-profile police-involved shootings and in-custody deaths that led to riots in Ferguson, Missouri and Baltimore.
Chiefs said patrol officers still do their jobs, clocking in and policing their beats. But fewer take extra steps such as confronting a group loitering on a sidewalk late at night that might glean intelligence or lead to arrests, for fear that any altercations that ensued would be uploaded to the Internet.
Nothing in the article you posted stated that cops were refusing to do their jobs because of being video taped which was your claim.
" However, when cops refuse to do their jobs because they are afraid of being caught abusing their power, we have a problem".
They may take fewer extra steps, but they are not refusing to do their jobs.
Sorry, but when police chiefs and elected officials refer to the cops as "getting feral" because they fear a you tube video, we have a problem.
The problem I see as to why they don't like every tom, dick, and harry to film, is those same people do not catch an altercation from its beginning, and can give rise to false charges against themselves.
Right. They don't want to take the chance that their inappropriate behavior is exposed. Sure, cops deal with people who do bad things that make them mad. It doesn't give them an excuse to break the law themselves. Behaving properly no matter what the bad guy did is part of the job. If they can't do that, they need another job.
Cameras will help both sides, IMO.
ExactlyCops are not paranoid about videos, per se, but about how easy it is to edit a video to make it look like a cop was doing something wrong when he wasn't.