Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[boedicca]

Firearms are manufactured for killing people, cars are not.

They are manufacture to hunt with, well for me. Also my two shotguns are not American own and the .38 U am buying is made in Brazil.

The one shotgun is made in Russia and the other was made in China.

Now to my question why would countries with stronger gun control mass produce firearms to be sold in the states?

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

Because guns don't kill people - Bad People kill other people.

Americans shoot other Americans. Even their armed police shoot unarmed black Americans for broken tail lights.

That is hysterical nonsense. Go play in traffic, junior.

 

[westwall]

Just read he had 10 rifles, not hand guns, rifles. Lawyers will be going after some of that $1 billion of that bottom line. Excuse me while I buy some leap puts on MGM Resorts.

It's too bad we can't sue the gun industry as easily.

IF that were allowed, I assure you the Auto Industry and hammer industry and knife industry would be next

Such a stupid argument. Cars are replete with safety features, many mandated by law. Roads have rules for safety and are patrolled by police. If guns were regulated as well there would be fewer problems.

Guns are far more regulated than cars. Over 20,000 gun laws are already on the books. The issue is, of course, that progressive judges, DA's and legal foundations ignore, and deny the existence of those laws.

They aren't.
There is no ownership title that transfers when a weapon is sold.
They do not require registration.
They do not require testing and licensing to operate.

And you keep dodging the question of how the Paris shooters got their weapons.

 

[MarkDuffy]

Firearms are manufactured for killing people, cars are not.

They are manufacture to hunt with, well for me. Also my two shotguns are not American own and the .38 U am buying is made in Brazil.

The one shotgun is made in Russia and the other was made in China.

Now to my question why would countries with stronger gun control mass produce firearms to be sold in the states?

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Yes. And thank God we haven't given up our rights to defend ourselves.

Fifty-eight Americans and 515 injured were not protected by the murderer in Las Vegas last night.

Indeed they weren't. The Clark County sheriff is virulently anti gun so the concert was in a "gun free" zone. So, yet again, the victims were placed into a shooting bowl and prevented the means to defend themselves.

How many armed concert goers could take out a sniper that far away?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Well fucktard McVeigh used a truck to blow up kids, and did you call for the banning of trucks?

Of course not.

Trucks have been used in terrorist attacks but you just shrug it off but let a gun be used and you call for repealing the Second Amendment.

So let cut the shit and admit you ignore the fact the gun is just one tool for terrorists.

A truck isn't a gun. A gun cannot destroy a multi story building. A truck cannot be used from a 32nd floor window. This guy used what he had in the manner he was comfortable with. It was very simple and very effective. So much so that he now holds the record.

McVeigh was comfortable with a firearm, so why didn't he use one?

Also the 9/11 terrorists killed more people with planes and all they needed to do was use guns because according to you it is easier.

A gun can't destroy a multi-story federal building. Can It?

This guy chose guns. It was very effective.

And McVeigh choice was a truck built into a bomb... McVeigh killed more but let ban guns and did you know fully automatic weapons are hard as hell to obtain?

Bet you did not know That!

So if he bought it legally then there is a permit by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and records and if obtained illegally it will still be traced!

Notice fully automatic is what they are claiming, so know the fucking difference and know that is not common like semi-automatic firearms!

Since McVeigh, Ammonium nitrate has been more difficult to obtain. And making a semi automatic that is easily converted to automatic is an issue.

You do not know if he converted one or straw purchased one or was given one to kill those people.

The fact remains obtaining a fully automatic weapon is harder than hell.

 

[westwall]

They are manufacture to hunt with, well for me. Also my two shotguns are not American own and the .38 U am buying is made in Brazil.

The one shotgun is made in Russia and the other was made in China.

Now to my question why would countries with stronger gun control mass produce firearms to be sold in the states?

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

They have the NRA to make sure they get and keep their guns

Most gun owners are not members of the nra. Furthermore the nra doesn't exist in France. So, yet again, how did the Paris attackers get their illegal machineguns?

The NRA is a lobby group for the gun manufacturers.

No it isn't. it is a lobby for the gun owners of the USA. Go peddle your bullshit elsewhere.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

One thing I hope we all can agree on

Mandalay Bay gots some splainin to do, Lucy

How in the hell such a huge arsenal got to the top floor?

Couldn't they fit easily in a suitcase if broken down or in a suit bag hung on a baggage cart?

 

[Brain357]

Firearms are manufactured for killing people, cars are not.

They are manufacture to hunt with, well for me. Also my two shotguns are not American own and the .38 U am buying is made in Brazil.

The one shotgun is made in Russia and the other was made in China.

Now to my question why would countries with stronger gun control mass produce firearms to be sold in the states?

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

Strange only the US has mass shootings regularly. Our police are shot and killed weekly. We have more accidental death than most countries have gun deaths...

Only an ignorant moonbat would post such bilge. Shootings take place all over the world. The U.S. is a large country, so there are more, but less fatalities when adjusted by population than some other countries. I'll also note that there are government around the world that kill far more of their OWN CITIZENS every year than the total killed by fire arms in the U.S.

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If You Look at This Chart of Top 10 Nations in the World for Mass Shootings - One Thing Jumps Out

They are rare everywhere else. And ours keep getting worse.

 

[westwall]

They are manufacture to hunt with, well for me. Also my two shotguns are not American own and the .38 U am buying is made in Brazil.

The one shotgun is made in Russia and the other was made in China.

Now to my question why would countries with stronger gun control mass produce firearms to be sold in the states?

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Yes. And thank God we haven't given up our rights to defend ourselves.

Fifty-eight Americans and 515 injured were not protected by the murderer in Las Vegas last night.

Indeed they weren't. The Clark County sheriff is virulently anti gun so the concert was in a "gun free" zone. So, yet again, the victims were placed into a shooting bowl and prevented the means to defend themselves.

How many armed concert goers could take out a sniper that far away?

There were a bunch of prior military there who would have had the ability to at least keep the asshole ducking. That would have allowed many to escape unharmed. How did your gun free zone help the victims?

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

So is a truck and car...

Just not in this case.

So in this case let repeal the second amendment but when trucks are used let blame the individual instead, right?

Repeal?
You said that, dope.

Well most on the left in this thread. So read the thread you fucking retard or don't and deny it like you deny that trucks are as dangerous as a gun!

You were responding to me, dope. I said nothing of repeal.

You support it though.

If you were against the idea of repealing the second amendment you would have said it.

So there fucktard!

 

[westwall]

They are manufacture to hunt with, well for me. Also my two shotguns are not American own and the .38 U am buying is made in Brazil.

The one shotgun is made in Russia and the other was made in China.

Now to my question why would countries with stronger gun control mass produce firearms to be sold in the states?

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

Strange only the US has mass shootings regularly. Our police are shot and killed weekly. We have more accidental death than most countries have gun deaths...

Only an ignorant moonbat would post such bilge. Shootings take place all over the world. The U.S. is a large country, so there are more, but less fatalities when adjusted by population than some other countries. I'll also note that there are government around the world that kill far more of their OWN CITIZENS every year than the total killed by fire arms in the U.S.

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If You Look at This Chart of Top 10 Nations in the World for Mass Shootings - One Thing Jumps Out

They are rare everywhere else. And ours keep getting worse.

Wrong. Ours are staying the same, but they are getting worse everywhere else because they already have the anti gun laws you want, they just can't seem to enforce them.

 

[koshergrl]

Islamic state claims Las Vegas shooting, says attacker recent convert to Islam

 

[westwall]

One thing I hope we all can agree on

Mandalay Bay gots some splainin to do, Lucy

How in the hell such a huge arsenal got to the top floor?

Couldn't they fit easily in a suitcase if broken down or in a suit bag hung on a baggage cart?

Not 12 of them.

 

[koshergrl]

Witness says woman told Las Vegas crowd they're 'all going to die' 45 minutes before shooting

 

[OldLady]

Okay. That would be the gun manufacturers of America, but I don't see that happening. Or are you talking about the trickle of guns that were used to try to catch gun runners?

So you're blaming GM because someone uses a car they manufactured, to plow into and kill others?

I could be snarky and say, "Let's start in USMB", but the fact is, those places were cruel and didn't do much to help the people in them.

So could I have been. Nice that you followed my lead and refrained.

Again, not seeing how any of these prevents a crazy person like the guy today from going on a mass shooting. It seems like you are trying to point to everything else in the room to deflect.

And you apparently have already decided that this guy has no criminal record or terrorist affiliations. Why not wait and see?

The Sheriff did a press briefing this a.m. saying he had no criminal record. FBI had no terrorist affiliations on their list. What are we supposed to wait and see about?

For one thing how he got so many weapons into a hotel room without housekeeping or hotel security noticing.

Glad I'm not the head of security there, that's one hot seat right about now.

Are you sure these type of rifles wouldn't fit in a suitcase or under a coat or in a golf bag, for instance? I'm just asking, since I don't know.

 

[Brain357]

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

Strange only the US has mass shootings regularly. Our police are shot and killed weekly. We have more accidental death than most countries have gun deaths...

Only an ignorant moonbat would post such bilge. Shootings take place all over the world. The U.S. is a large country, so there are more, but less fatalities when adjusted by population than some other countries. I'll also note that there are government around the world that kill far more of their OWN CITIZENS every year than the total killed by fire arms in the U.S.

View attachment 152363


If You Look at This Chart of Top 10 Nations in the World for Mass Shootings - One Thing Jumps Out

They are rare everywhere else. And ours keep getting worse.

Wrong. Ours are staying the same, but they are getting worse everywhere else because they already have the anti gun laws you want, they just can't seem to enforce them.

Strange this is the worst one ever. You call that staying the same?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

I can not believe that individual is still believing that guns are not regulated. I bet you the poster also believe cars are driven legally and never used in a illegal manner that causes deaths!?!

Firearms are manufactured for killing people, cars are not.

They are manufacture to hunt with, well for me. Also my two shotguns are not American own and the .38 U am buying is made in Brazil.

The one shotgun is made in Russia and the other was made in China.

Now to my question why would countries with stronger gun control mass produce firearms to be sold in the states?

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

Because guns don't kill people - Bad People kill other people.

Bad people with guns kill a lot of people. Very efficiently.

 

[bodecea]

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

They have the NRA to make sure they get and keep their guns

Most gun owners are not members of the nra. Furthermore the nra doesn't exist in France. So, yet again, how did the Paris attackers get their illegal machineguns?

The NRA is a lobby group for the gun manufacturers.

No it isn't. it is a lobby for the gun owners of the USA. Go peddle your bullshit elsewhere.

I thought it was a lobby group to protect the 2nd Amendment like the ACLU is a lobby group to protect the 1st, 4th, and 5th Amendments....both with a full stable of high-power lawyers.

 

[koshergrl]

I know I'm buying a weapon this week.

 

[RealDave]

A truck isn't a gun. A gun cannot destroy a multi story building. A truck cannot be used from a 32nd floor window. This guy used what he had in the manner he was comfortable with. It was very simple and very effective. So much so that he now holds the record.

McVeigh was comfortable with a firearm, so why didn't he use one?

Also the 9/11 terrorists killed more people with planes and all they needed to do was use guns because according to you it is easier.

A gun can't destroy a multi-story federal building. Can It?

This guy chose guns. It was very effective.

And McVeigh choice was a truck built into a bomb... McVeigh killed more but let ban guns and did you know fully automatic weapons are hard as hell to obtain?

Bet you did not know That!

So if he bought it legally then there is a permit by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and records and if obtained illegally it will still be traced!

Notice fully automatic is what they are claiming, so know the fucking difference and know that is not common like semi-automatic firearms!

Since McVeigh, Ammonium nitrate has been more difficult to obtain. And making a semi automatic that is easily converted to automatic is an issue.

Bullshit on both counts. ANY self loading firearm can be easily converted. As far as the Ammonium Nitrate, there are no controls on its purchase as the prime users are farms. And they buy millions of tons per year.

Ammonium Nitrate Security Statutes and Regulations | Homeland Security

Now, don't you feel like the idiot you are.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Okay. That would be the gun manufacturers of America, but I don't see that happening. Or are you talking about the trickle of guns that were used to try to catch gun runners?

So you're blaming GM because someone uses a car they manufactured, to plow into and kill others?

I could be snarky and say, "Let's start in USMB", but the fact is, those places were cruel and didn't do much to help the people in them.

So could I have been. Nice that you followed my lead and refrained.

Again, not seeing how any of these prevents a crazy person like the guy today from going on a mass shooting. It seems like you are trying to point to everything else in the room to deflect.

And you apparently have already decided that this guy has no criminal record or terrorist affiliations. Why not wait and see?

The Sheriff did a press briefing this a.m. saying he had no criminal record. FBI had no terrorist affiliations on their list. What are we supposed to wait and see about?

For one thing how he got so many weapons into a hotel room without housekeeping or hotel security noticing.

Glad I'm not the head of security there, that's one hot seat right about now.

Are you sure these type of rifles wouldn't fit in a suitcase or under a coat or in a golf bag, for instance? I'm just asking, since I don't know.

Broken down they would, I doubt more than 2 would fit into a big suitcase. Housekeeping usually comes in the AM every day.