Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[BasicHumanUnit]

Well, the gun lobby would fight that; gun free zones kill people, doncha know.

FINALLY, you post something correct after all these years! Congrats!

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Firearms are manufactured for killing people, cars are not.

They are manufacture to hunt with, well for me. Also my two shotguns are not American own and the .38 U am buying is made in Brazil.

The one shotgun is made in Russia and the other was made in China.

Now to my question why would countries with stronger gun control mass produce firearms to be sold in the states?

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Yes. And thank God we haven't given up our rights to defend ourselves.

Fifty-eight Americans and 515 injured were not protected by the murderer in Las Vegas last night.

Indeed they weren't. The Clark County sheriff is virulently anti gun so the concert was in a "gun free" zone. So, yet again, the victims were placed into a shooting bowl and prevented the means to defend themselves.

Dude, the shooter was at least 200m away on the 32nd floor. Well out of range for even the police on the ground. Do you really want 100 people shooting willy nilly at the hotel from the ground? What about the other guests in the hotel?

You should really think before you post.

 

[rightwinger]

I know there is a legal definition, but can anyone explain how the authorities did NOT deem this a terror attack?

Yes, he clearly had mental issues and probably any number of personal problems. However, he was holed up for a few days, and had to transport a hell of a lot of ammo, heavy weapons On another forum someone suggested he had a camera set-up to monitor police. This was clearly well planned and planned with a purpose in mind, to attack innocent revellers at an outside concert.

Thousands, helpless and hopeless people, as he went through so many rounds. I cannot think of any other more callous form of terror than what this animal engaged in.

I am not sure of the definition of a terror attack
It unquestionably created terror

But I think a terror attack has to be politically motivated not just some nutjob trying to build a body count

We will have to see what we find out the next few days

 

[westwall]

Wrong. Ours are staying the same, but they are getting worse everywhere else because they already have the anti gun laws you want, they just can't seem to enforce them.

Strange this is the worst one ever. You call that staying the same?

The worst shooting, but not the worst mass murder. That bit of history belongs to a little shit who burned 80+ people to death in New York with a gallon of gasoline. Want to outlaw that too? That's the problem you have, you want to ban everything but the only people who follow bans are the legal people. The criminals laugh at you dipshits and say "thanks for making our crimes easier!"

We have the most guns. Lax gun laws. And mass shootings regularly. Last week a church. Week before that a football party. Our police are killed weekly. These things don't happen regularly with gun control.

Yes, they do. You just turn a blind eye to them because you don't care to know the truth. You're nothing more than a political hack who lies as a way of life.

Then please share an example and give links.

How many do you want silly boy? These are just a few of the German police officer deaths. The French are having a worse time of it. The recent spate of US police deaths are attributable to BLM and their "let's kill cops campaign". Fine group of people you associate with.

List of killings by law enforcement officers in Germany - Wikipedia
Two German police officers killed by fleeing murder suspect in Brandenburg | Germany | DW | 28.02.2017
A gunfight erupted at a German station after a man grabed a cop's gun
Two killed, four wounded in German disco shooting
Man grabs German cop's gun, shoots her in head
German police officer dies after being shot by far-right extremist
German Police Officer Dies After Raid on Supporter of Far-Right Fringe Group

 

[MarkDuffy]

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

Strange only the US has mass shootings regularly. Our police are shot and killed weekly. We have more accidental death than most countries have gun deaths...

Only an ignorant moonbat would post such bilge. Shootings take place all over the world. The U.S. is a large country, so there are more, but less fatalities when adjusted by population than some other countries. I'll also note that there are government around the world that kill far more of their OWN CITIZENS every year than the total killed by fire arms in the U.S.

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If You Look at This Chart of Top 10 Nations in the World for Mass Shootings - One Thing Jumps Out

They are rare everywhere else. And ours keep getting worse.

Wrong. Ours are staying the same, but they are getting worse everywhere else because they already have the anti gun laws you want, they just can't seem to enforce them.

It is an unfair argument to complare the US surrounded by water with France, who has

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

They have the NRA to make sure they get and keep their guns

Most gun owners are not members of the nra. Furthermore the nra doesn't exist in France. So, yet again, how did the Paris attackers get their illegal machineguns?

The NRA is a lobby group for the gun manufacturers.

No it isn't. it is a lobby for the gun owners of the USA. Go peddle your bullshit elsewhere.

Please stop your vulgarity if you want to avoid being reported.
The NRA used to be for gun owners but they changed their rules and now accept large donations from gun manufacturers. They also pay for promoting politicians who are willing to be in their pocket. That makes them a gun lobby group for the manufacturers.

He knows it

 

[Flash]

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The NRA is a lobby group for the gun manufacturers.

You are confused Moon Bat.

It is a grassroots citizen constitutional rights lobby group with millions of individual members. Like me, a Life Member.

Industry support of the NRA is inconsequential. Even if it was significant then that would not be a bad thing. Every other industry in the US has some kind of lobby. Better than the auto makers and Wall Street banks that lobbies the Federal government to give them billions in bailouts.

 

[Geaux4it]

Most gun owners are not members of the nra. Furthermore the nra doesn't exist in France. So, yet again, how did the Paris attackers get their illegal machineguns?

The NRA is a lobby group for the gun manufacturers.

No it isn't. it is a lobby for the gun owners of the USA. Go peddle your bullshit elsewhere.

Please stop your vulgarity if you want to avoid being reported.
The NRA used to be for gun owners but they changed their rules and now accept large donations from gun manufacturers. They also pay for promoting politicians who are willing to be in their pocket. That makes them a gun lobby group for the manufacturers.

Fuck you you ignorant twat. The nra is a gun owners group. They buy politicians like every other group, corporation, foundation, in the US does. They are no different.

Once again I ask you to stay on topic which is the murder of Americans by a gun lover and stop your vulgar abuse of members of USMessageBoard.

 

[westwall]

They are manufacture to hunt with, well for me. Also my two shotguns are not American own and the .38 U am buying is made in Brazil.

The one shotgun is made in Russia and the other was made in China.

Now to my question why would countries with stronger gun control mass produce firearms to be sold in the states?

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Yes. And thank God we haven't given up our rights to defend ourselves.

Fifty-eight Americans and 515 injured were not protected by the murderer in Las Vegas last night.

Indeed they weren't. The Clark County sheriff is virulently anti gun so the concert was in a "gun free" zone. So, yet again, the victims were placed into a shooting bowl and prevented the means to defend themselves.

Dude, the shooter was at least 200m away on the 32nd floor. Well out of range for even the police on the ground. Do you really want 100 people shooting willy nilly at the hotel from the ground? What about the other guests in the hotel?

You should really think before you post.

Dude. I, and most of my friends, regularly shoot our handguns out to 400 yards. ACCURATELY. The police don't shoot nearly as much as the prior military do. You should have a passing knowledge of what you're bleating about before you post. You are ignorant of the facts, and ignorant of guns in general.

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Aren't those blacks killed by guns?

Nope...they are killed by OTHER PEOPLE.

The guns don't just float around killing people on their own....surprise surprise

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

They are manufacture to hunt with, well for me. Also my two shotguns are not American own and the .38 U am buying is made in Brazil.

The one shotgun is made in Russia and the other was made in China.

Now to my question why would countries with stronger gun control mass produce firearms to be sold in the states?

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Yes. And thank God we haven't given up our rights to defend ourselves.

Fifty-eight Americans and 515 injured were not protected by the murderer in Las Vegas last night.

Indeed they weren't. The Clark County sheriff is virulently anti gun so the concert was in a "gun free" zone. So, yet again, the victims were placed into a shooting bowl and prevented the means to defend themselves.

Dude, the shooter was at least 200m away on the 32nd floor. Well out of range for even the police on the ground. Do you really want 100 people shooting willy nilly at the hotel from the ground? What about the other guests in the hotel?

You should really think before you post.

Do you think every gun user is going to turn and open fire on a building?

If you do not have a clear shot you do not fire.

I swear to god you should think before posting because your ignorance is showing!

 

[Brain357]

Strange this is the worst one ever. You call that staying the same?

The worst shooting, but not the worst mass murder. That bit of history belongs to a little shit who burned 80+ people to death in New York with a gallon of gasoline. Want to outlaw that too? That's the problem you have, you want to ban everything but the only people who follow bans are the legal people. The criminals laugh at you dipshits and say "thanks for making our crimes easier!"

We have the most guns. Lax gun laws. And mass shootings regularly. Last week a church. Week before that a football party. Our police are killed weekly. These things don't happen regularly with gun control.

Yes, they do. You just turn a blind eye to them because you don't care to know the truth. You're nothing more than a political hack who lies as a way of life.

Then please share an example and give links.

How many do you want silly boy? These are just a few of the German police officer deaths. The French are having a worse time of it. The recent spate of US police deaths are attributable to BLM and their "let's kill cops campaign". Fine group of people you associate with.

List of killings by law enforcement officers in Germany - Wikipedia
Two German police officers killed by fleeing murder suspect in Brandenburg | Germany | DW | 28.02.2017
A gunfight erupted at a German station after a man grabed a cop's gun
Two killed, four wounded in German disco shooting
Man grabs German cop's gun, shoots her in head
German police officer dies after being shot by far-right extremist
German Police Officer Dies After Raid on Supporter of Far-Right Fringe Group

You think a few events equals our losing a cop every week? How many a year does Germany lose? How many mass shootings?

 

[Eloy]

[QUOT

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The NRA is a lobby group for the gun manufacturers.

You are confused Moon Bat.

It is a grassroots citizen constitutional rights lobby group with millions of individual members. Like me, a Life Member.

Industry support of the NRA is inconsequential. Even if it was significant then that would not be a bad thing. Every other industry in the US has some kind of lobby. Better than the auto makers and Wall Street banks that lobbies the Federal government to give them billions in bailouts.

Follow the money!

 

[Brain357]

Aren't those blacks killed by guns?

Nope...they are killed by OTHER PEOPLE.

The guns don't just float around killing people on their own....surprise surprise

Those people have guns because our country is littered with them. And they are very good
for killing people.

 

[MarkDuffy]

I know there is a legal definition, but can anyone explain how the authorities did NOT deem this a terror attack?

Yes, he clearly had mental issues and probably any number of personal problems. However, he was holed up for a few days, and had to transport a hell of a lot of ammo, heavy weapons On another forum someone suggested he had a camera set-up to monitor police. This was clearly well planned and planned with a purpose in mind, to attack innocent revellers at an outside concert.

Thousands, helpless and hopeless people, as he went through so many rounds. I cannot think of any other more callous form of terror than what this animal engaged in.

You know why they don't call it terrorism.

The terrorist is white and might be a republican

 

[Auld Phart]

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

Strange only the US has mass shootings regularly. Our police are shot and killed weekly. We have more accidental death than most countries have gun deaths...

Only an ignorant moonbat would post such bilge. Shootings take place all over the world. The U.S. is a large country, so there are more, but less fatalities when adjusted by population than some other countries. I'll also note that there are government around the world that kill far more of their OWN CITIZENS every year than the total killed by fire arms in the U.S.

View attachment 152363


If You Look at This Chart of Top 10 Nations in the World for Mass Shootings - One Thing Jumps Out

They are rare everywhere else. And ours keep getting worse.

Wrong. Ours are staying the same, but they are getting worse everywhere else because they already have the anti gun laws you want, they just can't seem to enforce them.

It is an unfair argument to complare the US surrounded by water with France, who has

They have the NRA to make sure they get and keep their guns

Most gun owners are not members of the nra. Furthermore the nra doesn't exist in France. So, yet again, how did the Paris attackers get their illegal machineguns?

The NRA is a lobby group for the gun manufacturers.

No it isn't. it is a lobby for the gun owners of the USA. Go peddle your bullshit elsewhere.

Please stop your vulgarity if you want to avoid being reported.
The NRA used to be for gun owners but they changed their rules and now accept large donations from gun manufacturers. They also pay for promoting politicians who are willing to be in their pocket. That makes them a gun lobby group for the manufacturers.

He knows it

 

[Hutch Starskey]

A truck isn't a gun. A gun cannot destroy a multi story building. A truck cannot be used from a 32nd floor window. This guy used what he had in the manner he was comfortable with. It was very simple and very effective. So much so that he now holds the record.

McVeigh was comfortable with a firearm, so why didn't he use one?

Also the 9/11 terrorists killed more people with planes and all they needed to do was use guns because according to you it is easier.

A gun can't destroy a multi-story federal building. Can It?

This guy chose guns. It was very effective.

And McVeigh choice was a truck built into a bomb... McVeigh killed more but let ban guns and did you know fully automatic weapons are hard as hell to obtain?

Bet you did not know That!

So if he bought it legally then there is a permit by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and records and if obtained illegally it will still be traced!

Notice fully automatic is what they are claiming, so know the fucking difference and know that is not common like semi-automatic firearms!

The guy is dead. Whether his weapon was legal or illegal makes no difference at this point. It was very effective.

It does make a difference if it was legally obtain or not, well to the law abiding citizen it does.

Funny to you it matter not because if it were obtained illegally then it kill a your wish for more gun control because criminals do not obey the fucking law!

Now if it were obtained legally then the seller need to show documentation that the buyer was legal to buy a fully automatic weapon!

I bet you still have no damn clue how hard it is to obtain one!

Also if modified that has to be known because then it bring into question who taught him?

Finally, the one question that has been ask is how did he get those firearms in the Hotel?

Of course you do not care because you want firearms banned!

It only matters insofar as an investigation may lead to some illegal weapon modifiers.
The reality is that if weapons like ak or ar weren't available, they couldn't be modified in this way.

I don't in any way wish to ban all weapons. The type used in this and many other cases have no purpose in the civilian world.

 

[Auld Phart]

I know there is a legal definition, but can anyone explain how the authorities did NOT deem this a terror attack?

Yes, he clearly had mental issues and probably any number of personal problems. However, he was holed up for a few days, and had to transport a hell of a lot of ammo, heavy weapons On another forum someone suggested he had a camera set-up to monitor police. This was clearly well planned and planned with a purpose in mind, to attack innocent revellers at an outside concert.

Thousands, helpless and hopeless people, as he went through so many rounds. I cannot think of any other more callous form of terror than what this animal engaged in.

You know why they don't call it terrorism.

The terrorist is white and might be a republican

 

[Marion Morrison]

Oh this is gettin' nuts. I bet all the guns have no fingerprints on them, watch.


When S.W.A.T. breached the room, the guy was already dead.

Someone could have done all the shooting and killed him and left.

As someone said: I wouldn't take anything too seriously for 48 hrs..that's good advice.

The news doesn't really hold themselves to the accuracy standard they used to.


Las Vegas shooter: Casino gunman reports

 

[DigitalDrifter]

58 now dead.
Good lord, this mf'er deserves the hot coals of hell if there is such a place.

 

[Flash]

Looks like Paddock could be a pink pussy hat wearing anti Trump asshole