Las Vegas shooting: Reports of shooter at Mandalay Bay Casino

[koshergrl]

Because we don't want too, plus our Bill of Rights ensures this right

Next question

-Geaux

Prehistoric laws, they need to be changed so Americans can live in peace and in a civilized environment. It seems as if some want to stay in the era of the wild wild west.

The laws are just fine. They need to start enforcing them

-Geaux

Nope, very outdated....guns should be banned completly. Results? less mass shootings, and shootings all together. Proof? most countries have that in place.

And libs are constantly telling us, "we don't want to take you guns, why don't you believe us"?


HEY LEFTIES, THIS IS WHY!

Go out there visit other countries , ask around if they have gun deaths and mass shootings. You'll be surprised that there is a civilized peaceful world out there.

Shut the fuck up.
Norway killings: The laughing gunman who shot 85 young victims, one by one
Norway Shooting and Bomb Attack Leaves at Least 92 Dead

 

[Hutch Starskey]

One thing I hope we all can agree on

Mandalay Bay gots some splainin to do, Lucy

How in the hell such a huge arsenal got to the top floor?

Couldn't they fit easily in a suitcase if broken down or in a suit bag hung on a baggage cart?

Not 12 of them.

Sure they could if they could be broken down.

 

[Brain357]

Prehistoric laws, they need to be changed so Americans can live in peace and in a civilized environment. It seems as if some want to stay in the era of the wild wild west.

The laws are just fine. They need to start enforcing them

-Geaux

Nope, very outdated....guns should be banned completly. Results? less mass shootings, and shootings all together. Proof? most countries have that in place.

And libs are constantly telling us, "we don't want to take you guns, why don't you believe us"?


HEY LEFTIES, THIS IS WHY!

Go out there visit other countries , ask around if they have gun deaths and mass shootings. You'll be surprised that there is a civilized peaceful world out there.

Shut the fuck up.
Norway killings: The laughing gunman who shot 85 young victims, one by one

Happened once years ago. How about since and before?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Okay. That would be the gun manufacturers of America, but I don't see that happening. Or are you talking about the trickle of guns that were used to try to catch gun runners?

So you're blaming GM because someone uses a car they manufactured, to plow into and kill others?

I could be snarky and say, "Let's start in USMB", but the fact is, those places were cruel and didn't do much to help the people in them.

So could I have been. Nice that you followed my lead and refrained.

Again, not seeing how any of these prevents a crazy person like the guy today from going on a mass shooting. It seems like you are trying to point to everything else in the room to deflect.

And you apparently have already decided that this guy has no criminal record or terrorist affiliations. Why not wait and see?

The Sheriff did a press briefing this a.m. saying he had no criminal record. FBI had no terrorist affiliations on their list. What are we supposed to wait and see about?

For one thing how he got so many weapons into a hotel room without housekeeping or hotel security noticing.

Glad I'm not the head of security there, that's one hot seat right about now.

Are you sure these type of rifles wouldn't fit in a suitcase or under a coat or in a golf bag, for instance? I'm just asking, since I don't know.

Broken down they would, I doubt more than 2 would fit into a big suitcase. Housekeeping usually comes in the AM every day.

Do not disturb.

I never have housekeeping in when I stay.

 

[Issa]

I swear to you guys, there are tons of countries with 0 guns or hardly any guns....Guess what??? no mass shootings, no killings at workplaces, schooles, shopping malls, roads, households, preschools, stadiums, ect....beleive me i've lived in one for 23 years, i've never heard of someone getting killed by a gun, because simply there are none.
It's doable ban guns completely you wont have these mass shootings.

Shootings are acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

Is the dumbest thing, this relation between some and guns. dozens of countries don't have this issue, simply because there's no easy access to guns...why can't americans give up their guns and live like many other countries live in Peace!!!

Because we don't want too, plus our Bill of Rights ensures this right

Next question

-Geaux

Prehistoric laws, they need to be changed so Americans can live in peace and in a civilized environment. It seems as if some want to stay in the era of the wild wild west.

You have no idea what it takes to change a Constitutional Amendment do you?

Even if you could repeal the Second Amendment through the House and Senate you still need the President signature and the majority of States to agree and it would take decades to do it if it were possible and it is not!

So please learn how things work here in the States before telling us how to change our Constitution!

It's doable.

 

[OldLady]

A former Florida neighbor said Paddock described himself as a professional gambler and was “very trusting,” the Palm Beach Post reported.

The Paddock family reportedly has a notorious history. The Paddocks’ father was a bank robber who made the FBI’s Most Wanted List, NBC News noted.

Police Identify Lone Las Vegas Shooter As Stephen Paddock | HuffPost

Being Vegas, I was wondering if gambling debts might have pushed him over the edge. But it would have taken more than that to put that much fire in his belly.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Guns aren't regulated? Silly wabbit!

Gun laws in the United States by state - Wikipedia

Regulated as well as cars, dope. I swear you're all functionally illiterate. Either that or you're not native speakers.

Your reading comprehension is sorely lacking, bub.

OMG you dopes can't even string two consecutive sentences together with any degree of competence.

You wouldn't recognize a well constructed sentence even if it slapped you on the ass and called you Judy.

Judy? LOL. But Hutch is literate. That's foolish.

Looks like Paddock could be a pink pussy hat wearing anti Trump asshole

Nahh, Pink hat-wearer's nose is too wide. Facial structure is same, nose is too wide.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

They are manufacture to hunt with, well for me. Also my two shotguns are not American own and the .38 U am buying is made in Brazil.

The one shotgun is made in Russia and the other was made in China.

Now to my question why would countries with stronger gun control mass produce firearms to be sold in the states?

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

Because guns don't kill people - Bad People kill other people.

Bad people with guns kill a lot of people. Very efficiently.

So do terrorists with trucks and so do drunks with automobiles.

Which of course has nothing at all to do with what happened last night.

 

[OldLady]

Regulated as well as cars, dope. I swear you're all functionally illiterate. Either that or you're not native speakers.

Your reading comprehension is sorely lacking, bub.

OMG you dopes can't even string two consecutive sentences together with any degree of competence.

You wouldn't recognize a well constructed sentence even if it slapped you on the ass and called you Judy.

Judy? LOL. But Hutch is literate. That's foolish.

Looks like Paddock could be a pink pussy hat wearing anti Trump asshole

Nahh, Pink hat-wearer's nose is too wide. Facial structure is same, nose is too wide.

Ol' Flash is full of shit today. Never did give me a link on his claim that ANTIFA was taking responsibility.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Oh this is gettin' nuts. I bet all the guns have no fingerprints on them, watch.


When S.W.A.T. breached the room, the guy was already dead.

Someone could have done all the shooting and killed him and left.

As someone said: I wouldn't take anything too seriously for 48 hrs..that's good advice.

The news doesn't really hold themselves to the accuracy standard they used to.


Las Vegas shooter: Casino gunman reports

So it is still possible it could have been an arab or a black?

Keep hope alive!

It could have been anybody at this point, including an ISIS militant. The old guy could have been tied up in a corner until it was time to kill him.

One thing's for sure: It wasn't spur-of-the-moment. This was pre-planned and coordinated.

 

[Eloy]

[Q

Follow the money!

You mean like the foreign countries where the money flowed into Crooked Hillary's money laundering foundation or the massive contributions by the Wall Street banks and environmental wackos? Is that money we need to follow?

Most of the money the NRA collects comes from individual membership and fees for training.

Besides it is a good thing if the NRA supports firearms manufacturing in the US. Only a stupid anti gun nut Moon Bat would find fault with that.

Don't kid yourself and quit trying to kid members of USMessageBoard:
"The NRA’s so-called “corporate partners” in the gun industry are the nation’s top-selling manufacturers of firearms and accessories. One of the companies that has donated a million dollars or more to the NRA is Remington Outdoor Company (formerly Freedom Group), manufacturer of the Bushmaster assault rifle used at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. Other top donors to the NRA include gunmakers Smith & Wesson, Beretta USA, Springfield Armory, and Sturm, Ruger & Co; as well as accessories vendors MidwayUSA and Brownells."
http://www.vpc.org/studies/bloodmoney2.pdf

 

[koshergrl]

The laws are just fine. They need to start enforcing them

-Geaux

Nope, very outdated....guns should be banned completly. Results? less mass shootings, and shootings all together. Proof? most countries have that in place.

And libs are constantly telling us, "we don't want to take you guns, why don't you believe us"?


HEY LEFTIES, THIS IS WHY!

Go out there visit other countries , ask around if they have gun deaths and mass shootings. You'll be surprised that there is a civilized peaceful world out there.

Shut the fuck up.
Norway killings: The laughing gunman who shot 85 young victims, one by one

Happened once years ago. How about since and before?

The terrorists in Europe use bombs, mostly.

"...From January to July this year, 143 people died in the region, according to the BBC, citing research from the University of Maryland’s global terrorism database.

"The last time the number was higher was in 2004, when the Madrid train bombings claimed 191 victims."
Terror deaths in Western Europe in 2016 highest in over a decade: report

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

And McVeigh choice was a truck built into a bomb... McVeigh killed more but let ban guns and did you know fully automatic weapons are hard as hell to obtain?

Bet you did not know That!

So if he bought it legally then there is a permit by the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT and records and if obtained illegally it will still be traced!

Notice fully automatic is what they are claiming, so know the fucking difference and know that is not common like semi-automatic firearms!

The guy is dead. Whether his weapon was legal or illegal makes no difference at this point. It was very effective.

It does make a difference if it was legally obtain or not, well to the law abiding citizen it does.

Funny to you it matter not because if it were obtained illegally then it kill a your wish for more gun control because criminals do not obey the fucking law!

Now if it were obtained legally then the seller need to show documentation that the buyer was legal to buy a fully automatic weapon!

I bet you still have no damn clue how hard it is to obtain one!

Also if modified that has to be known because then it bring into question who taught him?

Finally, the one question that has been ask is how did he get those firearms in the Hotel?

Of course you do not care because you want firearms banned!

It only matters insofar as an investigation may lead to some illegal weapon modifiers.
The reality is that if weapons like ak or ar weren't available, they couldn't be modified in this way.

I don't in any way wish to ban all weapons. The type used in this and many other cases have no purpose in the civilian world.

You do not even know anything about proper gun usage or safety, so please spare me the damn lecture.

You don't care about anything except banning firearms and claiming just those types is just your way to work towards the other types!

Anyone with common knowledge of firearm training and safety would not be spewing the nonsense you spewed in this thread.

Also you can ban all the weapons you want because criminals do not care!

Yes, criminals do not obey the damn law, but hey pass more law, repeal the second amendment and tell law abiding citizens because criminals commit crimes the average citizen must be punished while the criminal laughs!

You do not even know anything about proper gun usage or safety, so please spare me the damn lecture.

Fuck you.
I'm a veteran, moron.
I was a 60 gunner for more than three years.
I've fired probably more than 100,000 rounds from all sorts of weapons including qualifying with the German army. I've thrown/fired crates of grenades. I would bet I have more range time than the bulk of you morons.

Well then asshole you should know that someone trained to use a firearm knows not to open fire unless you have a clear shot!

Only a fucking moron would believe people would open fire on a building without knowing where the incoming fire is coming from!

So either you forgot your training in the military or you're a fucking moron!

 

[rightwinger]

A former Florida neighbor said Paddock described himself as a professional gambler and was “very trusting,” the Palm Beach Post reported.

The Paddock family reportedly has a notorious history. The Paddocks’ father was a bank robber who made the FBI’s Most Wanted List, NBC News noted.

Police Identify Lone Las Vegas Shooter As Stephen Paddock | HuffPost

Being Vegas, I was wondering if gambling debts might have pushed him over the edge. But it would have taken more than that to put that much fire in his belly.

I think the violence would have been directed AT the Casino rather than from it

Maybe use a bomb to get even with the casino
Looks more like a nutjob with machine gun fantasies

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

Because guns don't kill people - Bad People kill other people.

Bad people with guns kill a lot of people. Very efficiently.

So do terrorists with trucks and so do drunks with automobiles.

Which of course has nothing at all to do with what happened last night.

Still guns are just the tool of the terrorist at the time, so what will you propose to do when another McVeigh blows something up with a truck bomb?

Let me guess wish it had been a gun instead...

 

[Marion Morrison]

[Q

Follow the money!

You mean like the foreign countries where the money flowed into Crooked Hillary's money laundering foundation or the massive contributions by the Wall Street banks and environmental wackos? Is that money we need to follow?

Most of the money the NRA collects comes from individual membership and fees for training.

Besides it is a good thing if the NRA supports firearms manufacturing in the US. Only a stupid anti gun nut Moon Bat would find fault with that.

Don't kid yourself and quit trying to kid members of USMessageBoard:
"The NRA’s so-called “corporate partners” in the gun industry are the nation’s top-selling manufacturers of firearms and accessories. One of the companies that has donated a million dollars or more to the NRA is Remington Outdoor Company (formerly Freedom Group), manufacturer of the Bushmaster assault rifle used at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. Other top donors to the NRA include gunmakers Smith & Wesson, Beretta USA, Springfield Armory, and Sturm, Ruger & Co; as well as accessories vendors MidwayUSA and Brownells."
http://www.vpc.org/studies/bloodmoney2.pdf

Sounds like all my favorite gun manufacturers minus Marlin.

Sturm, Ruger & Co: Makers of the Sturm-Gewehr-44

Nah, I want a 795, not a 10/22.

 

[Bruce_T_Laney]

Shootings are acceptable risk to live in America

-Geaux

Is the dumbest thing, this relation between some and guns. dozens of countries don't have this issue, simply because there's no easy access to guns...why can't americans give up their guns and live like many other countries live in Peace!!!

Because we don't want too, plus our Bill of Rights ensures this right

Next question

-Geaux

Prehistoric laws, they need to be changed so Americans can live in peace and in a civilized environment. It seems as if some want to stay in the era of the wild wild west.

You have no idea what it takes to change a Constitutional Amendment do you?

Even if you could repeal the Second Amendment through the House and Senate you still need the President signature and the majority of States to agree and it would take decades to do it if it were possible and it is not!

So please learn how things work here in the States before telling us how to change our Constitution!

It's doable.

In what reality?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

There is a legal market for firearms trade in the USA because of the law there.

Yes. And thank God we haven't given up our rights to defend ourselves.

Fifty-eight Americans and 515 injured were not protected by the murderer in Las Vegas last night.

Indeed they weren't. The Clark County sheriff is virulently anti gun so the concert was in a "gun free" zone. So, yet again, the victims were placed into a shooting bowl and prevented the means to defend themselves.

Dude, the shooter was at least 200m away on the 32nd floor. Well out of range for even the police on the ground. Do you really want 100 people shooting willy nilly at the hotel from the ground? What about the other guests in the hotel?

You should really think before you post.

Dude. I, and most of my friends, regularly shoot our handguns out to 400 yards. ACCURATELY. The police don't shoot nearly as much as the prior military do. You should have a passing knowledge of what you're bleating about before you post. You are ignorant of the facts, and ignorant of guns in general.

You've shown your ignorance quite clearly.
There is no circumstance where you or anyone else should return fire at a building full of thousands of people. The fact that you would even suggest it shows you to be exactly the kind of person who should not have firearms.

 

[Flash]

[QU


Sounds like all my favorite gun manufacturers minus Marlin.

Sturm, Ruger & Co: Makers of the Sturm-Gewehr-44

Nah, I want a 795, not a 10/22.

The 795 is a fine little semi auto .22. My son has one. I have a tricked out 10-22. Pretty accurate with good ammo and never had a problem with reliability.

 

[westwall]

Indeed there is. And, amazingly enough there isn't a legal machinegun trade in France and yet the terrorists who killed all of those poor Parisians had no trouble obtaining them. Hmm. It seems that gun laws don't prevent bad people from getting them. How is that possible?

They have the NRA to make sure they get and keep their guns

Most gun owners are not members of the nra. Furthermore the nra doesn't exist in France. So, yet again, how did the Paris attackers get their illegal machineguns?

The NRA is a lobby group for the gun manufacturers.

No it isn't. it is a lobby for the gun owners of the USA. Go peddle your bullshit elsewhere.

Please stop your vulgarity if you want to avoid being reported.
The NRA used to be for gun owners but they changed their rules and now accept large donations from gun manufacturers. They also pay for promoting politicians who are willing to be in their pocket. That makes them a gun lobby group for the manufacturers.

The ILA has ALWAYS accepted donations from gum manufacturers and if you can't take the heat, stay out of the kitchen sunshine. It's as simple as that.