Law Professor: Trump Jr. may have violated Espionage Act

[Avatar4321]

And you wrote:

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I'm not the one who should be embarrassed. You described the man as a "laser professor," not I. I merely responded to what you wrote.

OH. So we have one guy typing a and the other one just addressing the fact about me having typed laser instead of law by mistake in my Swype keyboard. Note that I wrote law professor in the title, so you knew this was a typo. So far no right winger has laid out an argument against the article by the law professor.

me having typed laser instead of law

Okay, fine. It was a typo of some sort.

• Out of curiosity, how does one, namely you, type "laser" when one means to type "law?" I'm curious because besides beginning with "la" they are neither similar or similar in meaning..."laser" is even two additional letters ("er") ..."las," "lae," and "laq," rather than "law," are each typos one easily imagines being made...ess, ee, and que are all adjacent to double-u on a qwerty keyboard.
• Could you not have simply written "I made a typo when I wrote 'laser'" as your initial reply to my remarks? Instead of doing that, you embarked on the derisory line of what you supposed is my having embarrassed myself. Truly, I'm not an unreasonable person. If someone tells me they made a mistake, I'll "okay" and move on. I think most rational people would do the same thing.

That was your fifth comment in the thread, without making an argument against the law professor. Paradis owns you. Wanna make it six?
You choose to discuss typos as an excuse not to address Paradis' article.

No, it wasn't. My first comment in this thread is here: Law Professor: Trump Jr. may have violated Espionage Act

You choose to discuss typos as an excuse not to address Paradis' article.

I didn't discuss Paradis' remarks in the essay he posted because you, in your OP, represented the man as a laser professor, not law professor. Furthermore, I agree with him, and I haven't an authoritative basis, without doing a lot of research, to expound on the ideas he shared; at this time his essay will suffice. Even if I disagreed with him, I, having no formal portfolio in legal theory and practice, would not deign on my own to refute his analysis of the law. If a comparably qualified attorney/jurist published a direct counterargument to Paradis', I might read it and then choose the position that I find more sound or more ethical or more practical, or some preponderant combination of the three.

That was your seventh post in this thread without making any argument against the law professor. Wanna make it 8?

I don't often agree with koshergrl, but in this instance, I must remark that here supposition about you (noted below) is taking on increasing degrees of likelihood for being correct.

It is *possible* that you are a lying leftist pig.

Why do I think she may be correct? Because you keep remarking upon my not saying anything to refute Prof. Paradis' position and how Paradis, in your words, "owns me." I've told you he does not and I've told you why I've not said anything to refute him, but you've not actually bothered to read and comprehend the post in which I did so. I'm going to repost my explanation because I can't think of any clearer way to say it.

I didn't discuss Paradis' remarks in the essay he posted because you, in your OP, represented the man as a laser professor, not law professor. Furthermore, I agree with him...

I've also included a link to the definition of "furthermore," just in case that word escapes your understanding.

You contradict yourself. You say you do not refute his argument, but you accuse me of not mentioning the post in which you allegedly refuted his argument. Embarrassing.

Embarrassing. I don't think that word means what you think it means

Right wingers asking which laws we think may have been broken by participants in the Trump Tower meeting would probably find this article informative. It is written by Michael Paradis, laser professor at Georgetown and Columbia:

PARADIS (7-15-2017): According to the AP report, “Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to Trump Jr. and suggested that making the information public could help the campaign.” And receiving this plastic folder, assuming it really happened, may have implicated the participants in espionage.
Paradis links to other experts analyzing additional laws that Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort may have violated. Wonderful article.

Could Trump Jr., Kushner, or Manafort Be Charged Under the Espionage Act?

I heard he may have unicorns held hostage in his basement.

You misheard. It was RINOs in the house and senate

 

[koshergrl]

And you wrote:

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I'm not the one who should be embarrassed. You described the man as a "laser professor," not I. I merely responded to what you wrote.

OH. So we have one guy typing a and the other one just addressing the fact about me having typed laser instead of law by mistake in my Swype keyboard. Note that I wrote law professor in the title, so you knew this was a typo. So far no right winger has laid out an argument against the article by the law professor.

me having typed laser instead of law

Okay, fine. It was a typo of some sort.

• Out of curiosity, how does one, namely you, type "laser" when one means to type "law?" I'm curious because besides beginning with "la" they are neither similar or similar in meaning..."laser" is even two additional letters ("er") ..."las," "lae," and "laq," rather than "law," are each typos one easily imagines being made...ess, ee, and que are all adjacent to double-u on a qwerty keyboard.
• Could you not have simply written "I made a typo when I wrote 'laser'" as your initial reply to my remarks? Instead of doing that, you embarked on the derisory line of what you supposed is my having embarrassed myself. Truly, I'm not an unreasonable person. If someone tells me they made a mistake, I'll "okay" and move on. I think most rational people would do the same thing.

That was your fifth comment in the thread, without making an argument against the law professor. Paradis owns you. Wanna make it six?
You choose to discuss typos as an excuse not to address Paradis' article.

No, it wasn't. My first comment in this thread is here: Law Professor: Trump Jr. may have violated Espionage Act

You choose to discuss typos as an excuse not to address Paradis' article.

I didn't discuss Paradis' remarks in the essay he posted because you, in your OP, represented the man as a laser professor, not law professor. Furthermore, I agree with him, and I haven't an authoritative basis, without doing a lot of research, to expound on the ideas he shared; at this time his essay will suffice. Even if I disagreed with him, I, having no formal portfolio in legal theory and practice, would not deign on my own to refute his analysis of the law. If a comparably qualified attorney/jurist published a direct counterargument to Paradis', I might read it and then choose the position that I find more sound or more ethical or more practical, or some preponderant combination of the three.

That was your seventh post in this thread without making any argument against the law professor. Wanna make it 8?

I don't often agree with koshergrl, but in this instance, I must remark that here supposition about you (noted below) is taking on increasing degrees of likelihood for being correct.

It is *possible* that you are a lying leftist pig.

Why do I think she may be correct? Because you keep remarking upon my not saying anything to refute Prof. Paradis' position and how Paradis, in your words, "owns me." I've told you he does not and I've told you why I've not said anything to refute him, but you've not actually bothered to read and comprehend the post in which I did so. I'm going to repost my explanation because I can't think of any clearer way to say it.

I didn't discuss Paradis' remarks in the essay he posted because you, in your OP, represented the man as a laser professor, not law professor. Furthermore, I agree with him...

I've also included a link to the definition of "furthermore," just in case that word escapes your understanding.

You contradict yourself. You say you do not refute his argument, but you accuse me of not mentioning the post in which you allegedly refuted his argument. Embarrassing.

Uh..no.

 

[OKTexas]

Right wingers asking which laws we think may have been broken by participants in the Trump Tower meeting would probably find this article informative. It is written by Michael Paradis, laser professor at Georgetown and Columbia:

PARADIS (7-15-2017): According to the AP report, “Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to Trump Jr. and suggested that making the information public could help the campaign.” And receiving this plastic folder, assuming it really happened, may have implicated the participants in espionage.
Paradis links to other experts analyzing additional laws that Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort may have violated. Wonderful article.

Could Trump Jr., Kushner, or Manafort Be Charged Under the Espionage Act?

Talk about legal grasping for straws. Espionage is against governments, not private political parties. This guy would make pretzels envious the way he tried to twist the law to fit the situation.


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[OKTexas]

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

You're too stupid to even understand the definition of treason. A state of war would have to exist for it to even remotely apply and last I heard we aren't at war with Russia.


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[CrusaderFrank]

Remember kids, a nothing burger with pickles and ketchup is still a nothing burger

 

[koshergrl]

Remember kids, a nothing burger with pickles and ketchup is still a nothing burger

But if you add chips it's a tasty sammich.

 

[OKTexas]

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

There will have to be a smoking gun

Namely, that Trump offered policy concessions in return for help in winning the election

That would be treason

Wrong again oh ignorant one. A state of war does not exist between the US and Russia. Treason is not even on the table.


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[jc456]

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

Why, because you snowflakes say so?

Hillary Clinton committed numerous crimes during her unauthorized personal server scandal, to include ESPIONAGE, according to Former FBI Director Comey. His explanation that she is innocent because she was too stupid to know she was doing it is BS, as even Comey knows that by law ignorance of the law is not an acceptable legal defense.

Barak Obama, aside from aiding terrorists / Mexican Drug Cartels / Human Traffickers / violent Illegals / etc... for 8 years, and his administration committed / facilitated numerous crimes - to include ESPIONAGE according to the Directors of both the NSA and FBI - in an effort to seditiously undermine / overthrow Trump.

D-Debbie Wasserman-Schulz intentionally committed ESPIONAGE by hiring terrorist-connected, criminal-record bearing, murdering, kidnapping/extorting Pakistani spies, gave them illegal access to classified House documents / files (for the Department of Homeland Security and Department of Intelligence) and to DNC e-mails - she then re-hired the spies and gave them access to the same material after they had been banned from the House and had begun being investigated for Espionage.

...yet you say nothing.

And you snowflakes, who have treasonously called for military coups and assassinations, continue to seditiously push your un-substantiated conspiracy theories. Every time you present another conspiracy theory it blows up in your faces.

In this case, for example, AFTER THE DEPT OF IMMIGRATION DENIED PUTIN'S LAWYER'S ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES, Barry, his corrupt US AG, and his head of Homeland Security (Jeh Johnson) bypassed the Dept of Immigration and gave Putin's Lawyer a 'special' rare 'Parole' entry Visa - one 'usually reserved for Humanitarian Emergencies' - so she could get into the country. How nice of Barry to do the Leader, who supposedly interfered in our election, a favor...

While here, Putin's lawyer was escorted around by Hillary's lawyer...I guess she forgot to mention that...and how coincidentally convenient. Also while here, Putin's Lawyer met with Democrats and Republicans and tried to meet with Hillary and Putin. She had Hillary's lawyer's ear, and then she reportedly met with Trump.

In the meeting itself, it was revealed, Obama's own Russian Translator / ex-FBI official just happened to be there. Gee, another Obama administration 'plant' who just happened to be in the room, the translator that was chosen.

So she would not have been in the country had Barry not done Putin a favor. Hillary's lawyer escorted her around. And Barry's man was in the meeting. Everything about this screams 'Obama set-up', like he and Valerie Jarrett have been trying to do - take down Trump - since Hillary lost.

And you sheep keep attacking Trump because the Democrats, who stole your ability to pick your candidate by rigging their Primaries, tell you to do so in defense of the worst candidate in US history, a career criminal politician who should never have been on the ballot on election day because she should have been forced out for being under multiple FBI criminal investigations for crimes she DID commit.

 

[jc456]

Right wingers asking which laws we think may have been broken by participants in the Trump Tower meeting would probably find this article informative. It is written by Michael Paradis, laser professor at Georgetown and Columbia:

PARADIS (7-15-2017): According to the AP report, “Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to Trump Jr. and suggested that making the information public could help the campaign.” And receiving this plastic folder, assuming it really happened, may have implicated the participants in espionage.
Paradis links to other experts analyzing additional laws that Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort may have violated. Wonderful article.

Could Trump Jr., Kushner, or Manafort Be Charged Under the Espionage Act?

Talk about legal grasping for straws. Espionage is against governments, not private political parties. This guy would make pretzels envious the way he tried to twist the law to fit the situation.


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he's too busy looking into lasers.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Meh. Progressives and the Law. Obama never even heard of Judicial Review and he's done OK in life

 

[bripat9643]

Right wingers asking which laws we think may have been broken by participants in the Trump Tower meeting would probably find this article informative. It is written by Michael Paradis, laser professor at Georgetown and Columbia:

PARADIS (7-15-2017): According to the AP report, “Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to Trump Jr. and suggested that making the information public could help the campaign.” And receiving this plastic folder, assuming it really happened, may have implicated the participants in espionage.
Paradis links to other experts analyzing additional laws that Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort may have violated. Wonderful article.

Could Trump Jr., Kushner, or Manafort Be Charged Under the Espionage Act?

Accusing Trump of being a traitor is snowflakes self identify as idiots.

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[bripat9643]

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

Donald Trump has dragged his family into the scrutiny of the American media. It is something neither he nor them counted on when the patriarch decided to take over the United States Executive and use it for his own personal interests. It is not working out for any of them.

You mean he has dragged them into the firing line of the fake media, which engages in wholesale slander, character assaination and outright lying. Only a complete douche bag would pretend there's anything just or fair about the treatment they are getting.

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

If Obama who committed treason and wasn't charged for it, what makes you think Trump will?

You might want to stop consuming DNC news media...like CNN, MSLSD, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NY Slimes, Wapo...and so many more.

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[bripat9643]

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

There will have to be a smoking gun

Namely, that Trump offered policy concessions in return for help in winning the election

That would be treason

Hillary offered policy concessions in exchange for cash.

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[koshergrl]

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

Donald Trump has dragged his family into the scrutiny of the American media. It is something neither he nor them counted on when the patriarch decided to take over the United States Executive and use it for his own personal interests. It is not working out for any of them.

You mean he has dragged them into the firing line of the fake media, which engages in wholesale slander, character assaination and outright lying. Only a complete douche bag would pretend there's anything just or fair about the treatment they are getting.

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

If Obama who committed treason and wasn't charged for it, what makes you think Trump will?

You might want to stop consuming DNC news media...like CNN, MSLSD, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NY Slimes, Wapo...and so many more.

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Pomofascists are fine with a lying media.

"...narrative is the only access people have to reality, and people in power control narrative. Extreme counter-narrative on behalf of social justice is no vice, to rephrase Goldwater, because the ultimate veracity of those facts will always lie behind a veil of interpretations. There are not true and false observations, only narratives that advance human progress—defined on the progressive template—and narratives that resist it....

"Hence the pomofascist, or postmodernist fascist: someone with a PhD in the postmodern humanities, indifferent to individual rights, championing the collective good by authority of self-appointment, and disdainful of truth. The pomofascist seeks to turn history and reason upside-down so it flatters progressive causes, however many lies of omission or commission it takes."

Why What Some Call Cultural Marxists Are Actually Pomofascists

 

[koshergrl]

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

There will have to be a smoking gun

Namely, that Trump offered policy concessions in return for help in winning the election

That would be treason

Hillary offered policy concessions in exchange for cash.

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The Clintons have always done that. From their first day in office, from their days back in Arkansas.

 

[jc456]

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

There will have to be a smoking gun

Namely, that Trump offered policy concessions in return for help in winning the election

That would be treason

Hillary offered policy concessions in exchange for cash.

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The Clintons have always done that. From their first day in office, from their days back in Arkansas.

pay for play.

 

[busybee01]

Democrat Harvard Law Professor Alan Dershowitz: No crimes were committed.

Alan Dershowitz destroys Democrats' 'unconstitutional' argument against Donald Trump Jr.

Alan Dershowitz: 'I don't see any crime' that Donald Trump Jr. committed

Typical case of Trump Derangement Syndrome. It causes it's victims to say stupid things no matter how smart they are. Maybe Dershowitz needs stronger glasses.

 

[jillian]

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

Donald Trump has dragged his family into the scrutiny of the American media. It is something neither he nor them counted on when the patriarch decided to take over the United States Executive and use it for his own personal interests. It is not working out for any of them.

You mean he has dragged them into the firing line of the fake media, which engages in wholesale slander, character assaination and outright lying. Only a complete douche bag would pretend there's anything just or fair about the treatment they are getting.

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

If Obama who committed treason and wasn't charged for it, what makes you think Trump will?

You might want to stop consuming DNC news media...like CNN, MSLSD, CBS, NBC, ABC, PBS, NY Slimes, Wapo...and so many more.

Sent from my SM-G935P using USMessageBoard.com mobile app

Pomofascists are fine with a lying media.

"...narrative is the only access people have to reality, and people in power control narrative. Extreme counter-narrative on behalf of social justice is no vice, to rephrase Goldwater, because the ultimate veracity of those facts will always lie behind a veil of interpretations. There are not true and false observations, only narratives that advance human progress—defined on the progressive template—and narratives that resist it....

"Hence the pomofascist, or postmodernist fascist: someone with a PhD in the postmodern humanities, indifferent to individual rights, championing the collective good by authority of self-appointment, and disdainful of truth. The pomofascist seeks to turn history and reason upside-down so it flatters progressive causes, however many lies of omission or commission it takes."

Why What Some Call Cultural Marxists Are Actually Pomofascists

 

[busybee01]

There's no question that Trump and his entire fucking family are a bunch of traitors. Trump maybe the first president that gets convicted of treason against his own country.

Why, because you snowflakes say so?

Hillary Clinton committed numerous crimes during her unauthorized personal server scandal, to include ESPIONAGE, according to Former FBI Director Comey. His explanation that she is innocent because she was too stupid to know she was doing it is BS, as even Comey knows that by law ignorance of the law is not an acceptable legal defense.

Barak Obama, aside from aiding terrorists / Mexican Drug Cartels / Human Traffickers / violent Illegals / etc... for 8 years, and his administration committed / facilitated numerous crimes - to include ESPIONAGE according to the Directors of both the NSA and FBI - in an effort to seditiously undermine / overthrow Trump.

D-Debbie Wasserman-Schulz intentionally committed ESPIONAGE by hiring terrorist-connected, criminal-record bearing, murdering, kidnapping/extorting Pakistani spies, gave them illegal access to classified House documents / files (for the Department of Homeland Security and Department of Intelligence) and to DNC e-mails - she then re-hired the spies and gave them access to the same material after they had been banned from the House and had begun being investigated for Espionage.

...yet you say nothing.

And you snowflakes, who have treasonously called for military coups and assassinations, continue to seditiously push your un-substantiated conspiracy theories. Every time you present another conspiracy theory it blows up in your faces.

In this case, for example, AFTER THE DEPT OF IMMIGRATION DENIED PUTIN'S LAWYER'S ENTRY INTO THE UNITED STATES, Barry, his corrupt US AG, and his head of Homeland Security (Jeh Johnson) bypassed the Dept of Immigration and gave Putin's Lawyer a 'special' rare 'Parole' entry Visa - one 'usually reserved for Humanitarian Emergencies' - so she could get into the country. How nice of Barry to do the Leader, who supposedly interfered in our election, a favor...

While here, Putin's lawyer was escorted around by Hillary's lawyer...I guess she forgot to mention that...and how coincidentally convenient. Also while here, Putin's Lawyer met with Democrats and Republicans and tried to meet with Hillary and Putin. She had Hillary's lawyer's ear, and then she reportedly met with Trump.

In the meeting itself, it was revealed, Obama's own Russian Translator / ex-FBI official just happened to be there. Gee, another Obama administration 'plant' who just happened to be in the room, the translator that was chosen.

So she would not have been in the country had Barry not done Putin a favor. Hillary's lawyer escorted her around. And Barry's man was in the meeting. Everything about this screams 'Obama set-up', like he and Valerie Jarrett have been trying to do - take down Trump - since Hillary lost.

And you sheep keep attacking Trump because the Democrats, who stole your ability to pick your candidate by rigging their Primaries, tell you to do so in defense of the worst candidate in US history, a career criminal politician who should never have been on the ballot on election day because she should have been forced out for being under multiple FBI criminal investigations for crimes she DID commit.

You are a lying kook. The fact is that Comey said she mishandled information. He never said she tried to pass it on to a foreign power. The rest of your post is a collection of kooky conspiracy theories which Trump supporters never seem to run out of.

 

[busybee01]

Right wingers asking which laws we think may have been broken by participants in the Trump Tower meeting would probably find this article informative. It is written by Michael Paradis, laser professor at Georgetown and Columbia:

PARADIS (7-15-2017): According to the AP report, “Veselnitskaya presented the contents of the documents to Trump Jr. and suggested that making the information public could help the campaign.” And receiving this plastic folder, assuming it really happened, may have implicated the participants in espionage.
Paradis links to other experts analyzing additional laws that Trump Jr., Kushner and Manafort may have violated. Wonderful article.

Could Trump Jr., Kushner, or Manafort Be Charged Under the Espionage Act?

Talk about legal grasping for straws. Espionage is against governments, not private political parties. This guy would make pretzels envious the way he tried to twist the law to fit the situation.


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Interfering in American elections is a crime against this country. Espionage certainly fits since it was part of a plot to undermine our elections.