Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So, students violating school rules proves that the problem is widespread.

A rule that exists to protect the teachers

No. It is a rule to prevent disruption of the educational process, which seems to be your ultimate desire.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Still refusing to answer questions?

You realize that other readers of this forum is probably not impressed with that room temp IQ you keep on display.

And you are still hiding behind personal insults as your shield

Answer the question then and you won't appear to have shit for brains! Why are you using that as a shield?

 

[Mac-7]

Why don't you get your ass into a classroom and learn how things work? This stupidity you keep on display needs to stop!

that would violate SweetSue92 idea of absolute privacy for children and your desire to protect teachers

 

[bodecea]

What exactly is being taught to children? Can you give some real examples of the curriculum?

Can you?

There is a reason parents across this Country are at the local school boards meetings desperately trying to stop CRT.

If you want to pretend this isn't happening then find one of your like minded psycho Leftist friends to discuss that pink unicorn with.

You are the one making claims you cannot back up about CRT in order to support putting cameras in classrooms. What is it about CRT that has your panties in a bunch? Link it for us...................if you can.

"There is a reason parents across this country are at the local school boards [sic] meetings desperately (ain't that the truth!) trying to stop CRT......and that reason is.........................?

 

[bodecea]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

Cameras in a class room. Infringe on the child's freedom & liberty how EXACTLY?

The only thing it would infringe on is the teachers ability to do something they shouldn't be doing. Cameras would foster a safer environment.
And cameras would have zero impact on the size of government.
Simply install the camera and give every parent the pass code to view it anytime they want.

There is NO LOGICAL REASON to oppose this.

Other parents in the class do not have a right to see or witness a child get disciplined. To see a child get special help from a paraprofessional. Both of those situations are under privacy laws, specifically. Moreover, you are probably completely ignorant of the fact that many children have "no media" documents signed that say, mostly due to custody issues, they cannot be photographed or filmed FOR ANY REASON.

The general ignorance surrounding this issue....

Schools are already full of security cameras so I dunno wtf you're talking about.

In the hallways, with no audio, where students are moving quickly. Not where students are learning, are stationary, and more private information pertaining to grades and discipline is going on.

Sorry, you don't have the right to all that private information about everyone else's kids.

ETA: And of course, no one outside the district has access to those cameras unless there's a huge issue. Parents can't "give a code" and peep in, and say, figure out if a kid they don't have custody of is in the building.

If I have a child in a classroom I have every right to see a feed of that classroom just like parents are allowed to sit in on classrooms.

You have no valid arguments against cameras with pass codes available to parents.

She just presented several valid arguments. How about we put cams in you house to make sure there’s no domestic abuse going on. How do you feel about that?

My house is not a public facility ya moron. And her arguments are moot. There is no law prohibiting cameras in the classroom. That was the basis for her argument and she was 100% wrong. So wrong in fact there are already some schools with cameras in the classroom

You have every right to support a big brother state. It’s ridiculous and laughable in my opinion. How do you feel about lining our PUBLIC roadways with cameras that sends tickets for traffic violations? Sound good to ya?

They're already full of cameras so whats your point? We have cameras EVERYWHERE here in the metro. All over every intersection and up and down the highways. I have yet to be issued a ticked because of them.

I wasn’t making a point I was asking you a question. Care to answer it?

I answered it. They are already there and have zero impact on me. How do I feel? Indifferent. If someone can show me that they are being abused for nefarious reasons THEN I might care.
I have no expectation of privacy on a public road anymore than a child in a classroom full of other people should.

Ok so then is it fair to say that you support them? And don’t even try to claim that you already have the traffic cams surveillance that I laid out. It’s not already there. There are some red light cams and some speeding cams in very select areas. Tech is nearly there where we could cover all the roadways and give tickets for all traffic violations. Do you want that? Thumbs up from Gramps?

You don't know what you're talking about. We have so many cameras that ANY ACCIDENT has a live feed available immediately. Even in the Suburbs where I live. We had a high speed chase that ended in fatalities on my closest main road and they had a live feed.

You're really gonna double down on your retarded argument. How many of those cameras that you say are everywhere are automatically sending you tickets for speeding, not using your blinker, failing to wear your seatbelt?! You and I both know they aren’t doing that and we both know that’s what I’m asking you about. Stop trying to dodge the question with false analogies.

I didn't dodge shit motherfucker. If I run a red light and get a ticket that's on me.

YOU are the one moving the fucking goal posts. This thread is about cameras in the classroom but because my points on that subject were 100% correct you divert.

Fuck off

Big Brother government supporter.

 

[bodecea]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Or maybe they are concerned about expanding our Orwellian surveillance state.

Leftists are the ones doing it.

The right has no less guilt than the left when it comes to bigger government. The difference is the left is honest about it. You guys lie about it.

Sorry but I don't lie. I don't want a bigger government nor do I want cameras everywhere. If the schools are so bad you need cameras in the classroom, what is really needed is to trash it all and start from scratch. Cameras will only waste money without fixing the problem.

The schools aren’t so bad that cameras are needed in classrooms. Tucker Propagandipshitcarlson just tossed that idea out there and the idiots echoed. It’s the pushback against the huge threat of CRT that nobody actually knows anything about. It’s the product of fake news drama.

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Surveillance cameras can offer quality security assurance and ensure that teachers are teaching their students the three "R's". Parents of school going kids are often found disturbed with the rising number of incidents of classroom violence and now students being taught CRT. This menace can be handled adequately when the classroom is under the pair of monitoring eyes!

Who do you honestly think will be watching it? Mom who is over an hour away by commute? Dad who interrupts his management meeting because it is time for his kid to study math?

Those helicopter and snowplow parents that already make education a living nightmare....that's who.

 

[Mac-7]

You obviously have no concept of the legal principal in loco parentis.

And you obviously think loco parentis trumps real parents

 

[bodecea]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

Nolte: Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

So it's fine to put cameras on Police...but not fine to put them on the people we entrust with teaching our impressionable children? Are you shitting me? What possible reason would teachers have for not wanting parents to see what it is that they do in their classrooms?

How are the cameras on police? Body cams do not show the police officer, but what he or she sees, and it is not broadcast for your perverse entertainment.

Perverse entertainment? What is it you think goes on in those classrooms that you think I'm going to find entertaining?

Many proponents of cameras in the classroom are pedophiles who want a free show.

Did you just call me a pedophile?

It was a stupid fucking statement. There are literally thousands upon thousands of easily accessible videos of children all over the internet. Cameras in the classroom would be restricted viewing only.

Beginning to think the "admiral" is a damn retard

And guess who loves the idea MOST of "thousands upon thousands of easily accessible videos of children...."?

 

[John T. Ford]

You are the one making claims you cannot back up about CRT in order to support putting cameras in classrooms. What is it about CRT that has your panties in a bunch? Link it for us...................if you can.

"There is a reason parents across this country are at the local school boards [sic] meetings desperately (ain't that the truth!) trying to stop CRT......and that reason is.........................?

I don't have to back up anything.

Your denial about what this racist brainwashing bullshit called CRT is is meaningless.

Parents across this nation are fighting back against the Racist Left.

What you think it is in that Alt Left Reality you live in is irrelevant.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why don't you get your ass into a classroom and learn how things work? This stupidity you keep on display needs to stop!

that would violate SweetSue92 idea of absolute privacy for children and your desire to protect teachers

No. Why are you lying?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

You obviously have no concept of the legal principal in loco parentis.

And you obviously think loco parentis trumps real parents

It does in the school.

Did you realize that in many schools, the law holds the school responsible for the child's safety from the time they walk out the door of their residence until they return? Of course you didn't, because you are ignorant.

 

[Unkotare]

Security cameras" simply record the footage which can then be seen IF there is a dispute, by limited parties ONLY. That's what is done now, in hallways, buses etc. Is that what you're talking about? Be clear.

I am talking about allowing parents to monitor what the teachers are teaching their children

...

Families can come in for classroom visits, and there are parent-teacher conferences throughout the year. In addition, parents can communicate with their children's teachers any time.

 

[Unkotare]

Define "bad teacher:.

Like the man said, we know it when we see it

Dodge.

 

[Unkotare]

I am saying the method you are proposing is impractical and even creepy. Because there are minor children which I have stated from the beginning. and you have NO RIGHT to peek in on the live goings-on of other people's children

You claim parents have no right to see what you are teaching their children

and I say there is no law that gives you that power

Now you've been reduced to arguing with your own straw man?

 

[Unkotare]

You can't provide specifics. Pathetic!

There are far too many to list them all
...

Dodge.

 

[Mac-7]

Did you realize that in many schools, the law holds the school responsible for the child's safety from the time they walk out the door of their residence until they return?

Thats not true

 

[Unkotare]

I am struck by the arrogance of the teachers on this topic

They seem to think they have absolute ownership of the children from 8am to 3pm mon-friday

You fell in love with a half-baked idea you pulled out of your ass, and now you are just too stubborn to let it go despite the fact that you failed to think it through in the first place.

 

[Unkotare]

Did you realize that in many schools, the law holds the school responsible for the child's safety from the time they walk out the door of their residence until they return?

Thats not true

What knowledge of the subject informs that objection? Just because?

 

[Unkotare]

I am struck by the arrogance of the teachers on this topic

They seem to think they have absolute ownership of the children from 8am to 3pm mon-friday

When was the last time you set foot in a school?

 

[Mac-7]

Families can come in for classroom visits,

That would violate SweetSue92 rule that students have an absolute right to privacy