Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers

[Unkotare]

Families can come in for classroom visits,

That would violate SweetSue92 rule that students have an absolute right to privacy

That's another straw man. It is painfully clear that you cannot defend this idea.

 

[Mac-7]

Just because?

Yes

I dont claim to know everything


Maybe I’m wrong but the Admiral will have to prove it

libs cant just throw out a claim and dare others to disprove it

Thats another version of Go Fetch that I refuse to play

 

[Mac-7]

Families can come in for classroom visits,

That would violate SweetSue92 rule that students have an absolute right to privacy

That's another straw man. It is painfully clear that you cannot defend this idea.

Its sue’s idea not mine

 

[Mac-7]

Now you've been reduced to arguing with your own straw man?

Nonsense

Its the teachers straw man

 

[Unkotare]

Just because?

Yes

...

 

[Care4all]

So, are right wingers concerned about teachers even teaching about the slave trade, the south's and North's enrichment from it, the Jim Crow era, the civil rights movement, abolitionists, the civil war, the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, the Ku Klux Klan Acts, the Civil Rights Act, etc?

Is any of the above considered CRT?

 

[Unkotare]

Now you've been reduced to arguing with your own straw man?

Nonsense

Its the teachers straw man

YOU posted the straw man. If you deny it, quote the speaker directly instead of making shit up.

 

[Mac-7]

YOU posted the straw man. If you deny it, quote the speaker directly instead of making shit up.

Sue claims that parents have no right to view video from the classrooms where their children are taught

And I say no such law exists

 

[Unkotare]

So, are right wingers concerned about teachers even teaching about the slave trade, the south's and North's enrichment from it, the Jim Crow era, the civil rights movement, abolitionists, the civil war, the 13th, 14th, and 15th Amendments, the Ku Klux Klan Acts, the Civil Rights Act, etc?

Is any of the above considered CRT?

All of that has been taught for decades and decades. The addition of a suggestion that therefore ALL 'white' people alive today are evil and criminally liable for everything in the past, no matter how long ago, is the new part that many people (of all races) are not comfortable with.

 

[Unkotare]

YOU posted the straw man. If you deny it, quote the speaker directly instead of making shit up.

Sue claims that parents have no right to view video from the classrooms where their children are taught

And I say no such law exists

That is not only not what she said, but it is NOT the straw man you posted. You wouldn't have changed your comment if you didn't realize that. This means you are being deliberately dishonest.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Leftists Freak Out at the Thought of Cameras Exposing Fanatical CRT Teachers​

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The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson's suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.

www.breitbart.com

7 Jul 2021 ~~ By John Nolte
The far-left HuffPost is freaking over Tucker Carlson’s suggestion that cameras be placed in public school classrooms.
“Tucker Carlson Goes Full ‘1984’ With ‘Cameras In The Classroom’ Proposal,” screams the left-wing outlet’s headline.
“The Fox News personality suggested police-style body cameras to check on what every teacher is telling their students,” the sub-headline reads.
“Carlson, in a rant reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel ‘1984,’” author Lee Moran bleats, “called the teaching that racism is at least partly systemic… a ‘civilization-ending poison’ and ‘B.S.’”
Before we go any further… I’ve read 1984 at least three times and am unfamiliar with anything Tucker said that is “reminiscent of something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]”
In fact, Tucker’s suggestion is the exact opposite of “something from George Orwell’s classic dystopian novel[.]” Tucker is suggesting we monitor the government. 1984 is about (among other things) the government monitoring private citizens. So Moran got his metaphor exactly wrong, which tells me he’s probably a product of government-run public schools.
Regardless, he huffs on, “He warned ‘we can’t really be sure’ how far it is being spread until ‘we finally get cameras in the classroom, as we put them on the chests of police officers.’”
What I found interesting about this piece is that other than screaming 1984!!!, no case or argument is made against the idea of cameras in government-run public school classrooms.
Is there one?
Is there a good argument against this kind of accountability and transparency?
~Snip~
The real issue here is just how brazenly public school teachers have become when it comes to teaching our kids pretty much everything but what they need to know. Leftists are never happier than when they’ve insinuated themselves between parent and child. Too many schools can’t teach kids to read or write, but they are sure teaching them to hate their country and all about “demi-sexuality.”
Tucker’s smart to bring this up, to make it part of the national conversation. Teachers and their evil unions are going to have a hard time explaining why they oppose such a thing. They will be on defense, which is exactly where they belong.

Comment:
Cameras would certainly expose incompetence, along with indoctrination and its techniques, favoritism, laziness, CRT, anything BLM, gay rights, religion bashing, white guilt/privilege advancement, etc.
Easy to see why Progressive Marxist/DSA Commies oppose this.
What have the teachers got to hide? We are in the age of Zoom and zero in-class learning. Stick a camera in the corner so those students who wish to work from home and via Zoom can. Oh, and you need to record the classes in case the student was out for some reason. All the better if the parents can review what is being taught in class.
If we demand body-cams for cops, why not cameras in the classroom?

Hahahaha, the party of small government, personal Liberty and freedom wants to put cameras in classrooms?! Are you shitting me?! What a bunch of unprincipled idiots

Cameras in a class room. Infringe on the child's freedom & liberty how EXACTLY?

The only thing it would infringe on is the teachers ability to do something they shouldn't be doing. Cameras would foster a safer environment.
And cameras would have zero impact on the size of government.
Simply install the camera and give every parent the pass code to view it anytime they want.

There is NO LOGICAL REASON to oppose this.

Other parents in the class do not have a right to see or witness a child get disciplined. To see a child get special help from a paraprofessional. Both of those situations are under privacy laws, specifically. Moreover, you are probably completely ignorant of the fact that many children have "no media" documents signed that say, mostly due to custody issues, they cannot be photographed or filmed FOR ANY REASON.

The general ignorance surrounding this issue....

Schools are already full of security cameras so I dunno wtf you're talking about.

In the hallways, with no audio, where students are moving quickly. Not where students are learning, are stationary, and more private information pertaining to grades and discipline is going on.

Sorry, you don't have the right to all that private information about everyone else's kids.

ETA: And of course, no one outside the district has access to those cameras unless there's a huge issue. Parents can't "give a code" and peep in, and say, figure out if a kid they don't have custody of is in the building.

If I have a child in a classroom I have every right to see a feed of that classroom just like parents are allowed to sit in on classrooms.

You have no valid arguments against cameras with pass codes available to parents.

She just presented several valid arguments. How about we put cams in you house to make sure there’s no domestic abuse going on. How do you feel about that?

My house is not a public facility ya moron. And her arguments are moot. There is no law prohibiting cameras in the classroom. That was the basis for her argument and she was 100% wrong. So wrong in fact there are already some schools with cameras in the classroom

You have every right to support a big brother state. It’s ridiculous and laughable in my opinion. How do you feel about lining our PUBLIC roadways with cameras that sends tickets for traffic violations? Sound good to ya?

They're already full of cameras so whats your point? We have cameras EVERYWHERE here in the metro. All over every intersection and up and down the highways. I have yet to be issued a ticked because of them.

I wasn’t making a point I was asking you a question. Care to answer it?

I answered it. They are already there and have zero impact on me. How do I feel? Indifferent. If someone can show me that they are being abused for nefarious reasons THEN I might care.
I have no expectation of privacy on a public road anymore than a child in a classroom full of other people should.

Ok so then is it fair to say that you support them? And don’t even try to claim that you already have the traffic cams surveillance that I laid out. It’s not already there. There are some red light cams and some speeding cams in very select areas. Tech is nearly there where we could cover all the roadways and give tickets for all traffic violations. Do you want that? Thumbs up from Gramps?

You don't know what you're talking about. We have so many cameras that ANY ACCIDENT has a live feed available immediately. Even in the Suburbs where I live. We had a high speed chase that ended in fatalities on my closest main road and they had a live feed.

You're really gonna double down on your retarded argument. How many of those cameras that you say are everywhere are automatically sending you tickets for speeding, not using your blinker, failing to wear your seatbelt?! You and I both know they aren’t doing that and we both know that’s what I’m asking you about. Stop trying to dodge the question with false analogies.

I didn't dodge shit motherfucker. If I run a red light and get a ticket that's on me.

YOU are the one moving the fucking goal posts. This thread is about cameras in the classroom but because my points on that subject were 100% correct you divert.

Fuck off

Big Brother government supporter.

 

[Mac-7]

That is not only not what she said, but it is NOT the straw man you posted.

If you think so post the quotes

 

[Unkotare]

FERPA & COPPA

 

[Unkotare]

"Mac-7 said:

Unkotare said:
Families can come in for classroom visits,

That would violate SweetSue92 rule that students have an absolute right to privacy"

 

[Unkotare]

"You claim parents have no right to see what you are teaching their children"

 

[Mac-7]

FERPA & COPPA

Dont make me laugh

FERPA & COPPA do not prevent cameras in the classroom for parents to monitor

 

[Mac-7]

That would violate @SweetSue92 rule that students have an absolute right to privacy"

You claim parents have no right to see what you are teaching their children"

Those two examples are only a sample of sue’s desperate attempt to keep parental eyes out of the classroom

 

[Unkotare]

FERPA & COPPA

Dont make me laugh

FERPA & COPPA do not prevent cameras in the classroom for parents to monitor

How do you know? Have you read through them completely? Are you a legal expert? Are you just talking out your ass again?

 

[Unkotare]

That would violate @SweetSue92 rule that students have an absolute right to privacy"

You claim parents have no right to see what you are teaching their children"

Those two examples are only a sample of sue’s desperate attempt to keep parental eyes out of the classroom

Those are examples of Straw man that you posted. If you have to be dishonest in your desperate struggle to keep this feeling argument alive, then you might as well just let it go.

 

[Mac-7]

Are you a legal expert?

No I’m not

But I can read and I have common sense