Liz Cheney should be House Speaker!

[Dagosa]

Sinema is a man?

Man is she. If you look close, you might be able to see a stasch.

 

[Blaster]

Man is she. If you look close, you might be able to see a stasch.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Bullshit. What investigation do you need to know that Trump refused to lift even a finger to stop the attack? They were on the phone with him!!!

McCarthy was screaming for Trump to tell his nutbags to go home and even Trump Jr. was texting Meadows that Trump is not doing enough.

10 Republicans, all of whom voted against first impeachment, voted to impeach him this time, because he obviously broke his oath of office by sitting idly by while Congress was getting attacked by his mobs.

So, not taking action is not considered high crimes..and it's not impeachable, as much as you want it to be. Now, if he actually told someone to try and overthrow the government, or to even attack the capitol, that would be grounds, but, and as shitty as it was, his not taking immediate action is not an impeachable offense..granted, the dems "high crimes is whatever we say it is" motto may make it that..

Everyone that voted to impeach did so without full knowledge of what transpired, including Liz.

 

[ThisIsMe]

What utter tripe! The Second Impeachment of Trump could not wait for any “investigation”! It was completely warranted after Jan. 6th.

The increasingly unstable Trump was still Commander-in-Chief for another two weeks! There was no time for a b.s. “investigation”! Trump’s pardoned buddy General Mattis was already talking openly about declaring Martial Law. The increasingly unstable Trump had failed to stop the official registering of the validated 50 state electoral college count thanks only to V.P. Pence, but he still could have caused untoward harm to our Republic.

The Second Impeachment was necessary to keep Trump on the defensive and discourage any more craziness from his partisans. Unfortunately the Repubs — even most of those who were horrified by Trump’s actions — hadn’t the backbone to do the right thing and rid the country (and their own party) of this megalomaniac once and for all.

P.S. To make this out as a “personality difference” between Trump & Liz Cheney is typically superficial MAGAnut deflection.

The Second Impeachment of Trump could not wait for any “investigation”!

There was no time for a b.s. “investigation”!

Exactly my point, the dems didn't need an investigarion, he was guilty in their minds before they impeached. But guilty of what? They had zero information of what happened that day, other than "peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard", and some rioters invadading the capitol, but zero evidence that Trump was behind it, they hadn't investigated it yet.

As much as you hate him, and want these things to be impeachable, they are not, and we still have laws and a process.

 

[AntonToo]

So, not taking action is not considered high crimes..and it's not impeachable, as much as you want it to be.

Ignorant nonsense, the language "high Crimes and Misdemeanors" is a term of art for a political process and is purposefully expansive.

Breaking oath of office certainly falls under it.

For example if a President suddenly descides to lay around on the beach instead of showing up for the job there would not be a technical crime commited, yet certainly the Congress can impeach and remove POTUS for such abandoment of responsibilities.

Trump abandoning his responsibilities during an attack on the Congress is of course far more egregious misconduct.

 

[ThisIsMe]

It's Trumptards that do hate pal, have you read your cult leader's deranged rants lately especially about Ruby Freeman?

No, I don't have a cult leader and I don't know who ruby freeman is...have you listened to some of these progressive talk hosts? There's your hate right there. 6 hours a day, every day.

 

[Independent thinker]

If Republicans were semi-sane - they would elect her! What do you think?

LOL. She sold out the Republican party by letting Democrats use her for political purposes. Why should someone who was rejected by her very own constituents have that much power?

 

[ThisIsMe]

Ignorant nonsense, the language "high Crimes and Misdemeanors" is a term of art for a political process and is purposefully expansive.

Breaking oath of office certainly falls under it.

For example if a President suddenly descides to lay around on the beach instead of showing up for the job there would not be a technical crime commited, yet certainly the Congress can impeach and remove POTUS for such abandoment of responsibilities.

Trump abandoning his responsibilities during an attack on the Congress is of course far more egregious misconduct.

Ok,.so we are going with the "impeachment is viable for whatever reason we say it is" definition?

Truth is, there is no real guideline about what "high crimes and misdemeanors" are. It's a topic that's never really been resolved. If you are suggesting that him not taking an immediate action that day is impeachable, then get ready, because I'm sure there are going to be several "loose definitions" coming down the line for Biden.

Trump never told anyone to riot, he never told anyone to do anything but protest. yes, I agree that him letting it go on for as long as it did was a crappy thing to do, but I don't think it would fall under an impeachable offense.

Trump claims he offered up the national guard, and pelosi rejected it. The left disagrees, but I've seen articles that suggest a timeline of events confirms trumps claim. Only the forthcoming investigations will bring that to light.

So, if you believe that "high crimes and misdemeanors" isn't really a binding phrase, and that's its just a "term of art", that you can impeach for just about anything, then our Congress holds an unchecked power.

There is a reason why impeachment has been used so few times. It's reserved for offenses that are the utmost egregious. It's not to be used lightly.

 

[bripat9643]

Ignorant nonsense, the language "high Crimes and Misdemeanors" is a term of art for a political process and is purposefully expansive.

Breaking oath of office certainly falls under it.

For example if a President suddenly descides to lay around on the beach instead of showing up for the job there would not be a technical crime commited, yet certainly the Congress can impeach and remove POTUS for such abandoment of responsibilities.

Trump abandoning his responsibilities during an attack on the Congress is of course far more egregious misconduct.

Biden will be impeached for deliberately failing to enforce the border.

 

[AntonToo]

Biden will be impeached for deliberately failing to enforce the border.

The enforcement on the border was the same in 2020 as in 2022. So what is it that he didn't do?

 

[Staidhup]

, funny one Lakhota, the dimbo’s love the progressive compassionate conservative branch of the party, easy to manipulate, hell their afraid of their own shadow.

 

[SmokeALib]

Liz is no more qualified than Hillary to hold any office.

 

[Staidhup]

Liz is no more qualified than Hillary to hold any office.

Don’t tell that to Liz she would pop!

 

[easyt65]

Liz is vack home cleaning daddy's shotguns

 

[Dr.Know]

Liz Cheney is the person that COVERED UP THE MARTIN LUTHER KING SCANDAL. The Wall St. Journal broke the story about how MLK (real name is Michael King) PLAGERIZED HIS phD Thesis from Boston University. Cheney had the story put in the backburner, and yes, she is a RINO.

 

[jc456]

I thought she lost?

 

[bripat9643]

The enforcement on the border was the same in 2020 as in 2022. So what is it that he didn't do?

Utter horseshit.

Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[AntonToo]

Utter horseshit.

Who do you think you're fooling?

In which way is it horseshit?

What are you talking about?

What changes were made to the enforcement structure on the border?

 

[bripat9643]

In which way is it horseshit?

What are you talking about?

What changes were made to the enforcement structure on the border?

The claim that Biden hasn't changed border informant is horseshit. Biden isn't enforcing the border. He has told the BP and the immigration courts that illegals are to be released on their own recognizance.

 

[AntonToo]

He has told the BP and the immigration courts that illegals are to be released on their own recognizance.

Can you link me to Biden telling this to BP and immigration courts?