NYcarbineer
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When will conservatives stop lying?
When you pry their voiceboxes from their cold dead throats.
When you pry their voiceboxes from their cold dead throats.
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He already is doing far better than Bush ever did.
He already is doing far better than Bush ever did.
Fraudulent voter registration IS fraud - illegal, ya know?Have they ever proven any voter fraud from the 2008 election?
Republicans are delusional. They didn't fuck up....someone stole the last two elections from them
Its awfully suspicious when an organization like ACORN has been indicted for voter fraud in many states.
But again, it was about voter registration, which they reported themselves as they were legally obligated to do. No voter fraud has ever been established. IOW, there's no proof that Mickey Mouse ever actually cast a vote.
If anyone honestly believes that ACORN managed to gin up 9.5 million votes nationwide...well...
Fraudulent voter registration IS fraud - illegal, ya know?Its awfully suspicious when an organization like ACORN has been indicted for voter fraud in many states.
But again, it was about voter registration, which they reported themselves as they were legally obligated to do. No voter fraud has ever been established. IOW, there's no proof that Mickey Mouse ever actually cast a vote.
If anyone honestly believes that ACORN managed to gin up 9.5 million votes nationwide...well...
Poll: Majority of Republicans Believe ACORN Stole the Presidential Election
Katie Connolly
As his hopes of winning the congressional election in New York's 23rd district fade, conservative candidate Doug Hoffman is clearly getting desperate. Today he's blaming his loss on "ACORN, the unions, and the Democratic party" who he alleges, without a shred of evidence, tampered with votes to rig the election against him. Never mind that ACORN told David Weigel that they didn't have volunteers in the area, or that it largely operates in poor urban communities, which NY-23 is not. For conservatives, ACORN is shorthand for the evils of the left.
On the heels of that news, Public Policy Polling released this shocking nugget on its blog: "a 52% majority of GOP voters nationally think that ACORN stole the Presidential election for Barack Obama last year, with only 27% granting that he won it legitimately." Say what? More than half of Republican respondents believe the president was elected fraudulently! That's a stunningly high number. It's disturbing, not only as a demonstrable lack of faith in America's democracy but as an expression of wanton ignorance. Worse, it illustrates the effectiveness of Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, et al., alongside a well-funded "Stop ACORN" campaign, in creating an atmosphere where unquestioned lies become received wisdom.
Barack Obama won the election by an easy margin. In the end, it wasn't even close. John McCain knew that and delivered his concession speech before 9:30 p.m. Obama didn't just win in the urban areas where ACORN could actually be seen as a force—and which would likely have voted for him regardless of ACORN's participation. He won in places like North Carolina, where ACORN had just eight staffers. There's been no formal challenge to the electoral validity of the votes.There's simply no proof to back up claims that ACORN tampered with ballots. But there is evidence of irresponsible reporting catalyzing misguided fears.
Poll: Majority of Republicans Believe ACORN Stole the Presidential Election - The Gaggle Blog - Newsweek.com
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~Dude
Which is why I said Bush received a majority of the votes cast. That doesn't change the fact that the Supreme Court's decision was a miscarriage of justice.
what should have been done? keep recounting, maybe getting a different result every time?
The recount should have been completed. The Court's reasoning for saying the recount was unconstitutional was utter bullshit designed to give aid to a favored candidate.
When will conservatives stop lying?
When you pry their voiceboxes from their cold dead throats.
what should have been done? keep recounting, maybe getting a different result every time?
The recount should have been completed. The Court's reasoning for saying the recount was unconstitutional was utter bullshit designed to give aid to a favored candidate.
to the tune of 7-3? that would indicate that two of the lefties on the court favored Bush
Which are both violations of the FEC and fraudulent - illegal, and for a reason as the USA likes to have integrity of elections.Fraudulent voter registration IS fraud - illegal, ya know?But again, it was about voter registration, which they reported themselves as they were legally obligated to do. No voter fraud has ever been established. IOW, there's no proof that Mickey Mouse ever actually cast a vote.
If anyone honestly believes that ACORN managed to gin up 9.5 million votes nationwide...well...
He worded his statement poorly. He was trying to contract registration fraud and election fraud.
Yet, it's a violation of the FEC regulations (they are picky that way as they like integrity in elections); it's fraudulent; and it's illegal.Registering false names doesn't lead to false votes unless nonexistent people show up at the polls. ....
Yet, it's a violation of the FEC regulations (they are picky that way as they like integrity in elections); it's fraudulent; and it's illegal.Registering false names doesn't lead to false votes unless nonexistent people show up at the polls. ....
Well, the impact is a bit more than that on ACORN. An organization participating in illegal activities should expect to have public funding discontinued, as some of it has been. ALL public funding should be ceased for such a corrupt organization as ACORN. I resent even a fraction of a penny of my tax dollars going to support them.Yet, it's a violation of the FEC regulations (they are picky that way as they like integrity in elections); it's fraudulent; and it's illegal.Registering false names doesn't lead to false votes unless nonexistent people show up at the polls. ....
For sure it's illegal and should be adjudicated as such, wasn't saying otherwise.
But all that has an impact on is ACORN internally. It has NO EFFECT on an election and could not possibly result in 9.5 million fraudulent votes.
Public Policy Polling: ACORNPPP's newest national survey finds that a 52% majority of GOP voters nationally think that ACORN stole the Presidential election for Barack Obama last year, with only 27% granting that he won it legitimately.
The recount should have been completed. The Court's reasoning for saying the recount was unconstitutional was utter bullshit designed to give aid to a favored candidate.
to the tune of 7-3? that would indicate that two of the lefties on the court favored Bush
Not surprising, considering the line of reasoning the majority used to invalid the recounts. The Court ruled that the recounts were unconstitutional, since they violated the equal protection clause. What's odd about that argument is the court's conservative justices took a view of what constitutes a violation of equal protection that's even broader than the one generally taken by the liberal justices. They normally have a very narrow interpretation though. Seems really suspect that their interpretation changes when it gives them a preferred partisan outcome. It becomes even more suspect when they wrote in the decision that the standard used the case was special and the decision's equal protection standard was not considered to be a binding standard that other courts should use.
An even bigger affront is why the justices determined the recounts violated equal protection: because the recounting standards were not uniform across all districts. Using that logic though, the entire election in Florida violated equal protection, because several different types of voting machines were in use. The same reasoning that would result in different recount standards being unconstitutional (different standards and margins of error) would also apply to different mechanisms being used to record the vote.
When will conservatives stop lying?
When you pry their voiceboxes from their cold dead throats.
Really!!! And they just have to ask what lies I am talking about. I don't know if that's dumb or obtuse. Either way it's annoying. Geez, it's right there in black and white.