Man Tries to Save American Flag From Burning

[Road Runner]

I'm so sick of this status in our country right now. If Trump was still president absolutely NONE of this would be going on right now and these people would be in prison if they burned the American flag for another reason since there wouldn't be a war in the middle east to worry about.


True patriots are even afraid of their own safety for doing the right thing. It's completely despicable.

 

[Road Runner]

The fact that pknopp and Augustine_ marked my OP alerts me that they should just go to Hell. Not like I didn't know that already though.

 

[pknopp]

The fact that pknopp marked my OP alerts me that he should just go to Hell. Not like I didn't know that already though.

You didn't actually deserve even that.

We all know there were no protests under Trump, right?

Lol

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

I'm so sick of this status in our country right now. If Trump was still president absolutely NONE of this would be going on right now and these people would be in prison if they burned the American flag for another reason since there wouldn't be a war in the middle east to worry about.


True patriots are even afraid of their own safety for doing the right thing. It's completely despicable.

It's not his flag. He did not pay for it.

There is ones own flag and then there is a flag as a symbol.

People need to grow up

Justice Antonin Scalia rails again about flag-burning “weirdoes” | Constitution Center

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia was in Philadelphia last night, making remarks about the Court, a controversial flag-burning ruling from 1989, and diversity among his fellow Justices.

constitutioncenter.org

On June 21, 1989, a deeply divided United States Supreme Court upheld the rights of protesters to burn the American flag in a landmark First Amendment decision.

Justice William Brennan wrote the majority decision, with Justices Anthony Kennedy, Thurgood Marshall, Harry Blackmun and Antonin Scalia joining the majority. “Johnson was convicted for engaging in expressive conduct. The State’s interest in preventing breaches of the peace does not support his conviction because Johnson’s conduct did not threaten to disturb the peace,” said Brennan. “Nor does the State’s interest in preserving the flag as a symbol of nationhood and national unity justify his criminal conviction for engaging in political expression.”

When the Supreme Court ruled to allow American flag burning | Constitution Center

On June 21, 1989, a deeply divided United States Supreme Court upheld the rights of protesters to burn the American flag in a landmark First Amendment decision.

constitutioncenter.org

Justice Anthony Kennedy, writing a concurrence, spelled out his reasoning succinctly.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

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The battle in the courts about American flag desecration goes back to 1907 when the Court in Halter v. Nebraska upheld a state law that prohibited two businessmen from selling beer that had flag labels on the bottles. In 1968, Congress approved the Federal Flag Desecration Law after a Vietnam War protest. The law made it illegal to “knowingly” cast “contempt” upon “any flag of the United States by publicly mutilating, defacing, defiling, burning or trampling upon it.”

The Court moved closer to the Johnson decision in 1974, when it held in Spence v. Washington that a person couldn’t be convicted for using tape to put a peace sign on an American flag. The decision made it clear that a majority of the Court saw the act as protected expression under the First Amendment.

In 1984, Gregory Lee Johnson burned a flag at the Republican National Convention in Dallas. Officials in Texas arrested Johnson and convicted him of breaking a Texas law that prohibited desecration of the flag; he was sentenced to one year in prison and ordered to pay a $2,000 fine. The Court of Appeals for the Fifth District of Texas at Dallas affirmed Johnson's conviction, but the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals reversed, and the Supreme Court affirmed.

In reaction to the Johnson decision, which only applied to the Texas flag-desecration law, Congress passed a national anti-flag burning law called the Flag Protection Act of 1989. But in 1990, in United States v. Eichman, the Court struck down that law as unconstitutional as well, in another 5-4 decision.

When the Supreme Court ruled to allow American flag burning | Constitution Center

On June 21, 1989, a deeply divided United States Supreme Court upheld the rights of protesters to burn the American flag in a landmark First Amendment decision.

constitutioncenter.org

 

[debbiedowner]

Timeline of protests against Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I had no idea there were so many protests against him going back to 2015. Long one and did not read how many times may have been burned. Shitload of protests after President and many outside the country.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

I'm so sick of this status in our country right now. If Trump was still president absolutely NONE of this would be going on right now and these people would be in prison if they burned the American flag for another reason since there wouldn't be a war in the middle east to worry about.


True patriots are even afraid of their own safety for doing the right thing. It's completely despicable.

Actually, during Trump's administration, we were doing well, but we were subjected to a lot of unrest from Antifa and BLM activists. Those activities were fomented by the left though. So, if Trump gets reelected in the 2024 elections, we can expect more crap from the left.
As for flag burning. I find it disgusting and personally wish that all those who choose to do so, could be rounded up and shipped off to North Korea, to let them bask in extreme socialism. That said, our Supreme Court has said that such activities are examples of "free speech" and thus protected. While the left wants to get rid of a bipartisan Supreme Court, in favor of a One-Party only government body, which includes only the left making all judicial decisions, my stance is, if that's the decision of the Supreme Court, then, so-be-it.

 

[Road Runner]

It's not his flag. He did not pay for it.

There is ones own flag and then there is a flag as a symbol.

People need to grow up

Exactly!

I find it disgusting and personally wish that all those who choose to do so, could be rounded up and shipped off to North Korea, to let them bask in extreme socialism. That said, our Supreme Court has said that such activities are examples of "free speech" and thus protected.

Yeah but that wasn't their flag and they were rioting.

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Exactly!




Yeah but that wasn't their flag and they were rioting.

American flags owned by private individuals are theirs to do with as they please. Activists burning others privately owned property, should be fined for destruction of other people's private property.

 

[irosie91]

You didn't actually deserve even that.

We all know there were no protests under Trump, right?

Lol

the issue is what is likely---by POLICY to pass as ok by the POLICE, by THE PROSECUTORS, BY THE COURTS---both state and federal---
BY POLICY. The President plays a big part in the POLICY OF THE LAND. Under Biden just about anything PASSED if it worked as
the "LIBERAL POV" Kamala---same crap