Meriam Ibrahim 'should be executed,' her brother says

[Sally]

You really have to have a very sick mind to want your sister killed because of her religious beliefs. It is quite understandable why those who were originally followers of Islam and have consequently dropped out to become Atheists or Christians are afraid to tell their friends and relatives. And, imagine, many of those who have the same mind set as the brother are being allowed to immigrate into the Western Hemisphere and Europe.

Meriam Ibrahim 'should be executed,' her brother says

Meriam Ibrahim "should be executed," her brother has said, if she refuses to abandon her Christian beliefs

By Harriet Alexander
3:01PM BST 05 Jun 2014

Meriam Ibrahim, the woman sentenced to death in Sudan for apostasy, was “given a magic potion” to bewitch her into leaving Islam – and should be executed for doing so, her brother has said.

Al Samani Al Hadi Mohamed Abdullah said that he denounced his sister to the authorities because his family are “Muslim people.” He claimed that Ms Ibrahim, 27, was born as Abrar Al Hadi but changed her name when she was drugged by her husband, Daniel Wani. And he said that, if she did not return to the devout family fold, she should be hanged.

Meriam Ibrahim 'should be executed,' her brother says

Meriam Ibrahim "should be executed," her brother has said, if she refuses to abandon her Christian beliefs

By Harriet Alexander
3:01PM BST 05 Jun 2014
Meriam Ibrahim, the woman sentenced to death in Sudan for apostasy, was “given a magic potion” to bewitch her into leaving Islam – and should be executed for doing so, her brother has said.

Al Samani Al Hadi Mohamed Abdullah said that he denounced his sister to the authorities because his family are “Muslim people.” He claimed that Ms Ibrahim, 27, was born as Abrar Al Hadi but changed her name when she was drugged by her husband, Daniel Wani. And he said that, if she did not return to the devout family fold, she should be hanged.

 

[MHunterB]

I think if anyone should be hanged, he should volunteer. Obviously he didn't do right by his sister - aren't brothers supposed to *protect* and care for their sisters?

 

[Sunni Man]

No doubt ...

 

[bodecea]

Places like the Sudan today are like places like Europe were about 6-700 years ago...which would make sense, since their religion is about 6-700 years younger than christianity. I wonder how many family members gave up their wives, their mothers, their sisters, their daughters to the hangman and the stake in Europe back then because they were brain washed with fear of a superstitious religion.

 

[Sally]

Places like the Sudan today are like places like Europe were about 6-700 years ago...which would make sense, since their religion is about 6-700 years younger than christianity. I wonder how many family members gave up their wives, their mothers, their sisters, their daughters to the hangman and the stake in Europe back then because they were brain washed with fear of a superstitious religion.

Then if their religion is so much younger so that they are allowed their barbaric ways in the 21st century, perhaps the West should stop all immigration and let them catch up and start acting civilized when it comes to religion. Not doubt you don't want barbaric people living among you who will murder you because of your religious beliefs. I don't think that the Baha'is of Iran or even the Ahmadi Muslims whose beliefs arose way after Mohammed started his religion are saying that if their relatives are "apostates" they should be murdered. Correct me if I am wrong.

 

[Sunni Man]

Then if their religion is so much younger so that they are allowed their barbaric ways in the 21st century, perhaps the West should stop all immigration and let them catch up and start acting civilized when it comes to religion. Not doubt you don't want barbaric people living among you who will murder you because of your religious beliefs.

I have no problem with it. ...

 

[waltky]

Mum's the word with the State Dept....

State Dept. Won’t Say If It Tried to Verify Marriage, Birth Certificates Before Demanding DNA from U.S. Citizen’s Child Imprisoned in Sudan
June 6, 2014 -- The State Department will not say whether it made any effort to authenticate the marriage and birth certificates that U.S. citizen Daniel Wani says he gave to the U.S. Embassy in Sudan to verify the U.S. citizenship of his son, Martin.

Martin is now in a Sudanese prison along with his one-week-old sister, Maya, because his mother--Daniel’s wife Mariam Ibrahim--will not renounce her Christian faith. Under U.S. law, the child of a U.S citizen is entitled to U.S. citizenship no matter where he or she is born. The Immigration and Nationality Act says: “The following shall be nationals and citizens of the United States at birth: …a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States … of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years.”

Daniel Wani emigrated from Sudan to New Hampshire in 1998. In 2005, he was naturalized as a U.S. citizen. In December 2011, he reportedly married Mariam Ibrahim at a church in Khartoum, Sudan. Daniel and Mariam’s son, Martin, was reportedly born the next year. This May 15, when Mariam was eight months pregnant with her and Daniel’s second child, a Sudanese court convicted her of “apostasy” and “adultery”—apostasy because the father who abandoned her at six had been a Muslim and adultery for her relationship with her own husband. The court sentenced her to be flogged for adultery, and, when she would not renounce her Christian faith, to be hanged for apostasy. Last week, she gave birth to Maya within the confines of Omdurman Federal Women’s Prison, where she has been incarcerated with son Martin since January. As of today, the State Department has not recognized Martin and Maya Wani as U.S. citizens—despite the U.S. citizenship of their father.

7 Foreign Affairs Manual 1130 sets out the department’s rules for administering the law that says the child of a U.S. citizen born abroad is a U.S. citizen. “The statutes do not specify a standard of proof for persons claiming birth in wedlock to a U.S. citizen parent or out of wedlock to an American mother,” says the manual. “The Department applies the general standard of a preponderance of the evidence.” “Children born in wedlock are generally presumed to be the issue of that marriage,” the manual says. “This presumption is not determinative in citizenship cases, however, because an actual blood relationship to a U.S. citizen parent is required. If doubt arises that the citizen ‘parent’ is related by blood to the child, the consular officer is expected to investigate carefully. Circumstances that might give rise to such a doubt include: (1) Conception or birth of a child when either of the alleged biological parents was married to another; (2) Naming on the birth certificate, as father and/or mother, person(s) other than the alleged biological parents; and (3) Evidence or indications that the child was conceived at a time when the alleged father had no physical access to the mother.”

On Monday, Daniel Wani signed a Privacy Act waiver, and the State Department admitted for the first time that he was a U.S. citizen. But the department would not admit that his children were citizens. “Mr. Wani was quoted as saying that the State Department had asked for DNA testing of the children. Is that correct?” a reporter asked at the department’s press briefing. “Well, there are certain requirements that I just referenced to you that have long been the case, and they’re available … on the INA website,” State Department Spokesperson Jen Psaki responded. “U.S. regulation authorizes the Department to request whatever additional evidence it may need to establish the U.S. citizenship. Genetic testing is a useful tool for verifying a biological relationship.” “We don't have all the information we would need in this case,” Psaki said. A page on the department’s website explains the department’s policy on whether to go so far as to require DNA testing to establish that the child of a U.S. citizen born abroad is indeed the citizen’s child. “DNA testing is the only biological testing method currently accepted by the Department to establish a biological relationship,” says the department’s website. “However, due to the expense, complexity, and logistical delays inherent in parentage testing, genetic testing generally should be used only in the absence of sufficient other evidence (documentation, photos, etc.) establishing the relationship.”

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[Lipush]

What a Hanazir of a brother.