Migrants break down Macedonia fence on Greek border

[Confounding]

What a mess.

Migrants break down Macedonia fence on Greek border - BBC News

A crowd of migrants has burst through a barbed-wire fence on the Macedonia-Greece border using a steel pole as a battering ram. TV footage showed migrants pushing against the fence at Idomeni, ripping away barbed wire, as Macedonian police let off tear gas to force them away. A section of fence was smashed open with the battering ram. It is not clear how many migrants got through. Many of those trying to reach northern Europe are Syrian and Iraqi refugees. About 6,500 people are stuck on the Greek side of the border, as Macedonia is letting very few in. Many have been camping in squalid conditions for a week or more, with little food or medical help. The chaos on Monday erupted at a gate festooned with barbed wire, keeping migrants away from a railway line.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Machine guns and flamethrowers.

 

[Phoenall]

Machine guns and flamethrowers.

The only way to deal with terrorists, as these scum have shown they are not refugee's

 

[LuckyDuck01!]

Also, add numerous land mines.

 

[Tresha91203]

I do not understand. Are their conditions improved compared to where they came from or not? If it is worse at Macedonia than in "Syria" (many migrating are clearly NOT Syrian), they can return to their wives/mothers/children and be better off. Resources do not fall out of the sky. If there is not enough room, food, water, medicine, etc., there just isn't. Do their families back home have shelter, food and water or did they leave their children starving in the streets? This is what we can do, and it is very costly to do as much as has been done. There is no gratitude, only anger and hostility. If they don't want to wait, they can turn around and go back home to their families. If they cannot be bothered to save their families, why do they expect strangers to save them?

I think the lesson is learned regarding waves of single, fighting-age, male migrants. It should have been obvious, but some have to learn the hard way and some never learn.

Maybe if they send their women and children first, it would be more believable, but I don't think they want their women to get a taste of western freedoms and realize they have rights that will be protected.

 

[montelatici]

I would think that if the refugees present an existential threat, it could become necessary to turn them away at sea. Sending them back to the North African and Turkish/Middle East coasts.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Machine guns and flamethrowers.

Exactly, people like have said this for months now.

 

[Phoenall]

I would think that if the refugees present an existential threat, it could become necessary to turn them away at sea. Sending them back to the North African and Turkish/Middle East coasts.

A pity you don't see this the same way for those trying to destroy Israel, it is all the same thing islamonazi's after world domination

 

[Mindful]

Some migrants, interviewed on TV, said it was worse than Syria.

 

[Tresha91203]

Some migrants, interviewed on TV, said it was worse than Syria.

It is a relief to know their women and children have it better. They, too, would have it better if they went home. I'm sure their wives and mothers and children would fare even better if their able-bodied young men came home ... unless their able-bodied young men are the problem. If that's the case, we don't need to take those men in at all.

If they go home to wait for some sort of authorization to migrate, they have it better, their families have it better and the host country has it better. Wins all around.

Resources do not just fall out of the sky due to a perceived need. Countries are destroying themselves trying to help. Where is the gratitude? Why such hostility and aggression? When you bite the hand that feeds you, you don't get fed anymore and it is nobody's fault but yours.

 

[Mindful]

Some migrants, interviewed on TV, said it was worse than Syria.

It is a relief to know their women and children have it better. They, too, would have it better if they went home. I'm sure their wives and mothers and children would fare even better if their able-bodied young men came home ... unless their able-bodied young men are the problem. If that's the case, we don't need to take those men in at all.

If they go home to wait for some sort of authorization to migrate, they have it better, their families have it better and the host country has it better. Wins all around.

Resources do not just fall out of the sky due to a perceived need. Countries are destroying themselves trying to help. Where is the gratitude? Why such hostility and aggression? When you bite the hand that feeds you, you don't get fed anymore and it is nobody's fault but yours.

The people smuggler gangs are moving in again. Offering routes through the mountains. For money.They started all this in the first place.

 

[Lucy Hamilton]

Some migrants, interviewed on TV, said it was worse than Syria.

It is a relief to know their women and children have it better. They, too, would have it better if they went home. I'm sure their wives and mothers and children would fare even better if their able-bodied young men came home ... unless their able-bodied young men are the problem. If that's the case, we don't need to take those men in at all.

If they go home to wait for some sort of authorization to migrate, they have it better, their families have it better and the host country has it better. Wins all around.

Resources do not just fall out of the sky due to a perceived need. Countries are destroying themselves trying to help. Where is the gratitude? Why such hostility and aggression? When you bite the hand that feeds you, you don't get fed anymore and it is nobody's fault but yours.

The people smuggler gangs are moving in again. Offering routes through the mountains. For money.They started all this in the first place.

It's about time we started shooting them already. This would make these gangs think twice, their friends met with mounted machine guns and shot where they stand.

 

[waltky]

Migrants attempt to cross river into Macedonia...

Migrants attempt river crossing into Macedonia
March 14, 2016 | The rain-swollen river lacks the barbed-wire fence installed across the border between the two countries.

More than 1,000 people crossed a river from a refugee camp in Greece into Macedonia on Monday, though Macedonian officials say they will be returned to Greece. The refugees, largely from Syria and Afghanistan and attempting to travel through Europe to seek asylum, left a deteriorating camp at Idomeni, Greece, walked several miles and attempted to cross the Axios River separating the two countries. They left in a long line, carrying their possessions as the procession snaked along a hilly road, and followed a rope installed across the river to Macedonia.

About 1,000 traveled together early Monday, followed later by a group of about 500 more. Although Macedonia has secured its border with miles of barbed wire, the river is a regarded as a natural barrier meant to keep people from crossing. Hours before the outflow of refugees, three Afghan migrants drowned while attempting to cross the river.

Macedonian intelligence sources said police and the army "intervened" to collect those who entered the country, adding the migrants will be returned to Greece. It was unclear how many were detained by Macedonian officials, and where they will be taken. About 12,000 people remain at the sprawling Idomeni camp.

Migrants attempt river crossing into Macedonia

 

[Meathead]

They were apparently turned back. There is talk about Greece refusing re-entry.