Missouri Senator Hawley to introduce measure to dismiss Pelosi's slapdash impeachment on Monday

[ABikerSailor]

You know their is nothing in the constitution that says he can’t do this. I think Harley is a former state ag so he is not some fly by night. And he is not up for re-election.

Actually, there IS something in the Constitution that says he can't do anything about it. Why? Because the House has the sole power to impeach (meaning only the House can impeach or not), and the Senate has the sole power to dismiss (meaning they are the ones to decide if the president stays or goes).

If the dude is in the Senate, he cannot void an impeachment done by the House, as the Senate doesn't have the authority. At best, this will be a symbolic gesture only.

 

[Jitss617]

 

[Obiwan]

Actually, impeachment is a process...

The House has to send the impeachment to the SENATE (which they have so far failed to do)...

So, technically, Trump hasn't been impeached yet!!!
Trump Isn’t Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate

Your link is to an opinion piece. Sorry, but not hard fact.

Actually, it's an opinion by a lawyer that testified for the Democrats during the impeachment hearings...

Trump is not actually impeached yet, lawyer who testified for Democrats says

Would you care to give us a little background on YOUR legal expertise???

Or are you talking out your ass again???

Doesn't change the fact that it is an OPINION piece, show us where the Constitution states that.

It's actually an opinion from a LAWYER...

So would YOU care to give us YOUR legal qualifications???

Or are we supposed to take legal opinions from a couple of nitwits on a message board???
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Can you show us where it states that in the Constitution since that is instruction manual the country is run by.

Can you explain how you can have a trial if the prosecutor doesn't give the charges to the judge and jury???

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Only problem is, the Senate cannot do that. The House does the impeachment, and the Senate decides if the president should remain in office or not. Says so in the Constitution.

So -

In layman's terms The House is the prosecutor
The Senate is the jury
John Roberts would serve as the judge


Yes?

New Yorkers Don't Think Trump is President

Actually, impeachments can't really be explained in simple criminal law terms, as it isn't done that way.

The House hears about possible charges. They run an investigation and gather information. If the information says that impeachment is warranted, they vote to impeach. If the vote fails, the impeachment process is over and there is no impeachment. If the vote passes, the president is impeached.

Once impeached, it is then sent to the Senate to determine if the president can stay in office or not. The Senate has no say as to whether or not the president is impeached, they simply decide if he can stay or not.

Sorry, but what the senator wants to do (vote to void the impeachment) would only be symbolic at best, but would have zero impact on the impeachment. Sorry, but no matter how much you guys wish to believe that Trump hasn't been impeached yet, he has. And, there is nothing the Senate can do to void it as that falls solely under the House authority.

Actually, impeachment is a process...

The House has to send the impeachment to the SENATE (which they have so far failed to do)...

So, technically, Trump hasn't been impeached yet!!!
Trump Isn’t Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate

They really haven't a clue.

New Yorkers Don't Think Trump is President

Article title should be “New Yorkers Don’t Think” and end it there. Deblasio, Cuomo, AOC, Schumer, Gillibrand, etc.

And they wonder why criminals are running wild in their state.

 

[MindWars]

Only problem is, the Senate cannot do that. The House does the impeachment, and the Senate decides if the president should remain in office or not. Says so in the Constitution.

So -

In layman's terms The House is the prosecutor
The Senate is the jury
John Roberts would serve as the judge


Yes?

New Yorkers Don't Think Trump is President

Actually, impeachments can't really be explained in simple criminal law terms, as it isn't done that way.

The House hears about possible charges. They run an investigation and gather information. If the information says that impeachment is warranted, they vote to impeach. If the vote fails, the impeachment process is over and there is no impeachment. If the vote passes, the president is impeached.

Once impeached, it is then sent to the Senate to determine if the president can stay in office or not. The Senate has no say as to whether or not the president is impeached, they simply decide if he can stay or not.

Sorry, but what the senator wants to do (vote to void the impeachment) would only be symbolic at best, but would have zero impact on the impeachment. Sorry, but no matter how much you guys wish to believe that Trump hasn't been impeached yet, he has. And, there is nothing the Senate can do to void it as that falls solely under the House authority.

Actually, impeachment is a process...

The House has to send the impeachment to the SENATE (which they have so far failed to do)...

So, technically, Trump hasn't been impeached yet!!!
Trump Isn’t Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate

They really haven't a clue.

New Yorkers Don't Think Trump is President

Article title should be “New Yorkers Don’t Think” and end it there. Deblasio, Cuomo, AOC, Schumer, Gillibrand, etc.

And they wonder why criminals are running wild in their state.

How about that bs I think in CA where the kids can't be suspended or punished for their behavior in school. What happens when one of these losers kills a teacher or rapes them.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Again, for all you idiot Trump supporters who are believing the bullshit that Trump isn't impeached. Sorry, but Trump HAS been impeached, and it is the House that does the impeachment. After the impeachment, a trial is held in the Senate to determine if the president should remain in office or not.

The House does the impeaching. The Senate holds a trial to see if removal is warranted. The House can only do the impeachment, not removal, and the Senate can only vote to remove or not, but they cannot do anything concerning impeachment.

This senator is trying to do something that he's not authorized to do. The Senate has zero bearing on whether or not a president is impeached. If you doubt that, look at what happened to Clinton.

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia

Impeachment in the United States is the process by which a legislature (usually in the form of the lower house) brings charges against a civil officer of government for crimes alleged to have been committed, analogous to the bringing of an indictment by a grand jury. Impeachment may occur at the federal level or the state level. The federal House of Representatives can impeach federal officials, including the president, and each state's legislature can impeach state officials, including the governor, in accordance with their respective federal or state constitution.

Most impeachments have concerned alleged crimes committed while in office, though there have been a few cases in which officials have been impeached and subsequently convicted for crimes committed prior to taking office.[1] The impeached official remains in office until a trial is held. That trial, and removal from office if convicted, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future.

Impeachment is a process, not a vote you fucking moron. Impeachment is not complete until the articles are sent to the senate. PERIOD.

 

[Shrimpbox]

Who says he is voiding impeachment? He is dismissing it out of hand because it is so flawed, and actually in my opinion saving the country from wasting any more time on this farce. Oh and by the way, it is cnn lawyers who suggested the impeachment was not valid if it wasn’t sent to the senate, so go argue with them bro.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

So -

In layman's terms The House is the prosecutor
The Senate is the jury
John Roberts would serve as the judge


Yes?

New Yorkers Don't Think Trump is President

Actually, impeachments can't really be explained in simple criminal law terms, as it isn't done that way.

The House hears about possible charges. They run an investigation and gather information. If the information says that impeachment is warranted, they vote to impeach. If the vote fails, the impeachment process is over and there is no impeachment. If the vote passes, the president is impeached.

Once impeached, it is then sent to the Senate to determine if the president can stay in office or not. The Senate has no say as to whether or not the president is impeached, they simply decide if he can stay or not.

Sorry, but what the senator wants to do (vote to void the impeachment) would only be symbolic at best, but would have zero impact on the impeachment. Sorry, but no matter how much you guys wish to believe that Trump hasn't been impeached yet, he has. And, there is nothing the Senate can do to void it as that falls solely under the House authority.

Actually, impeachment is a process...

The House has to send the impeachment to the SENATE (which they have so far failed to do)...

So, technically, Trump hasn't been impeached yet!!!
Trump Isn’t Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate

They really haven't a clue.

New Yorkers Don't Think Trump is President

Article title should be “New Yorkers Don’t Think” and end it there. Deblasio, Cuomo, AOC, Schumer, Gillibrand, etc.

And they wonder why criminals are running wild in their state.

How about that bs I think in CA where the kids can't be suspended or punished for their behavior in school. What happens when one of these losers kills a teacher or rapes them.

They will blame the Jews or Trump or both.

 

[Jitss617]

We still taking about the hoax lol trump is still your president

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Your link is to an opinion piece. Sorry, but not hard fact.

Actually, it's an opinion by a lawyer that testified for the Democrats during the impeachment hearings...

Trump is not actually impeached yet, lawyer who testified for Democrats says

Would you care to give us a little background on YOUR legal expertise???

Or are you talking out your ass again???

Doesn't change the fact that it is an OPINION piece, show us where the Constitution states that.

It's actually an opinion from a LAWYER...

So would YOU care to give us YOUR legal qualifications???

Or are we supposed to take legal opinions from a couple of nitwits on a message board???
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Can you show us where it states that in the Constitution since that is instruction manual the country is run by.

Can you explain how you can have a trial if the prosecutor doesn't give the charges to the judge and jury???

Hmmmm hard to have a trial when the key witnesses and criminal are allowed to hide from the prosecutor.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Again, for all you idiot Trump supporters who are believing the bullshit that Trump isn't impeached. Sorry, but Trump HAS been impeached, and it is the House that does the impeachment. After the impeachment, a trial is held in the Senate to determine if the president should remain in office or not.

The House does the impeaching. The Senate holds a trial to see if removal is warranted. The House can only do the impeachment, not removal, and the Senate can only vote to remove or not, but they cannot do anything concerning impeachment.

This senator is trying to do something that he's not authorized to do. The Senate has zero bearing on whether or not a president is impeached. If you doubt that, look at what happened to Clinton.

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia

Impeachment in the United States is the process by which a legislature (usually in the form of the lower house) brings charges against a civil officer of government for crimes alleged to have been committed, analogous to the bringing of an indictment by a grand jury. Impeachment may occur at the federal level or the state level. The federal House of Representatives can impeach federal officials, including the president, and each state's legislature can impeach state officials, including the governor, in accordance with their respective federal or state constitution.

Most impeachments have concerned alleged crimes committed while in office, though there have been a few cases in which officials have been impeached and subsequently convicted for crimes committed prior to taking office.[1] The impeached official remains in office until a trial is held. That trial, and removal from office if convicted, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future.

Impeachment is a process, not a vote you fucking moron. Impeachment is not complete until the articles are sent to the senate. PERIOD.

Does the Constitution state that?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Actually, it's an opinion by a lawyer that testified for the Democrats during the impeachment hearings...

Trump is not actually impeached yet, lawyer who testified for Democrats says

Would you care to give us a little background on YOUR legal expertise???

Or are you talking out your ass again???

Doesn't change the fact that it is an OPINION piece, show us where the Constitution states that.

It's actually an opinion from a LAWYER...

So would YOU care to give us YOUR legal qualifications???

Or are we supposed to take legal opinions from a couple of nitwits on a message board???
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Can you show us where it states that in the Constitution since that is instruction manual the country is run by.

Can you explain how you can have a trial if the prosecutor doesn't give the charges to the judge and jury???

Hmmmm hard to have a trial when the key witnesses and criminal are allowed to hide from the prosecutor.

You mean accused? What is he hiding? He released the transcript.

 

[Obiwan]

Actually, it's an opinion by a lawyer that testified for the Democrats during the impeachment hearings...

Trump is not actually impeached yet, lawyer who testified for Democrats says

Would you care to give us a little background on YOUR legal expertise???

Or are you talking out your ass again???

Doesn't change the fact that it is an OPINION piece, show us where the Constitution states that.

It's actually an opinion from a LAWYER...

So would YOU care to give us YOUR legal qualifications???

Or are we supposed to take legal opinions from a couple of nitwits on a message board???
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Can you show us where it states that in the Constitution since that is instruction manual the country is run by.

Can you explain how you can have a trial if the prosecutor doesn't give the charges to the judge and jury???

Hmmmm hard to have a trial when the key witnesses and criminal are allowed to hide from the prosecutor.

Actually, it looks like the SENATE is trying to start the trial, and the prosecution is a "no show"...

Maybe Pelosi's dementia is kicking in again!!!

 

[Markle]

Since talk about impeaching Donald Trump was circulating before he even took office, for the life of me I can't see how this whole mess can be taken seriously.

Published 2 days ago [Dec 31, 2019]
Rep. Al Green: The 'genesis' of Trump's impeachment began when he was 'running for office'
By Joseph A. Wulfsohn | Fox News
[...]
REP. AL GREEN FEARS THAT TRUMP 'WILL GET REELECTED' IF HE'S NOT IMPEACHED

"Well, the genesis of impeachment, to be very candid with you, was when the president was running for office and he had members of his own party to talk about his unfitness to hold office," Green told Hayes."

Rep. Al Green: The 'genesis' of Trump's impeachment began when he was 'running for office'

 

[airplanemechanic]

Actually, it's an opinion by a lawyer that testified for the Democrats during the impeachment hearings...

Trump is not actually impeached yet, lawyer who testified for Democrats says

Would you care to give us a little background on YOUR legal expertise???

Or are you talking out your ass again???

Doesn't change the fact that it is an OPINION piece, show us where the Constitution states that.

It's actually an opinion from a LAWYER...

So would YOU care to give us YOUR legal qualifications???

Or are we supposed to take legal opinions from a couple of nitwits on a message board???
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Can you show us where it states that in the Constitution since that is instruction manual the country is run by.

Can you explain how you can have a trial if the prosecutor doesn't give the charges to the judge and jury???

Hmmmm hard to have a trial when the key witnesses and criminal are allowed to hide from the prosecutor.

Hmmmm hard to have a fair impeachment hearing when Trump is not allowed to call any witnesses or have his attorney present.

 

[Jitss617]

 

[airplanemechanic]

Again, for all you idiot Trump supporters who are believing the bullshit that Trump isn't impeached. Sorry, but Trump HAS been impeached, and it is the House that does the impeachment. After the impeachment, a trial is held in the Senate to determine if the president should remain in office or not.

The House does the impeaching. The Senate holds a trial to see if removal is warranted. The House can only do the impeachment, not removal, and the Senate can only vote to remove or not, but they cannot do anything concerning impeachment.

This senator is trying to do something that he's not authorized to do. The Senate has zero bearing on whether or not a president is impeached. If you doubt that, look at what happened to Clinton.

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia

Impeachment in the United States is the process by which a legislature (usually in the form of the lower house) brings charges against a civil officer of government for crimes alleged to have been committed, analogous to the bringing of an indictment by a grand jury. Impeachment may occur at the federal level or the state level. The federal House of Representatives can impeach federal officials, including the president, and each state's legislature can impeach state officials, including the governor, in accordance with their respective federal or state constitution.

Most impeachments have concerned alleged crimes committed while in office, though there have been a few cases in which officials have been impeached and subsequently convicted for crimes committed prior to taking office.[1] The impeached official remains in office until a trial is held. That trial, and removal from office if convicted, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future.

Impeachment is a process, not a vote you fucking moron. Impeachment is not complete until the articles are sent to the senate. PERIOD.

Does the Constitution state that?

When DOES the constitution state the president has been impeached?

According to bloomberg, yes the constitution does state that.

Trump Isn’t Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate

" Impeachment as contemplated by the Constitution does not consist merely of the vote by the House, but of the process of sending the articles to the Senate for trial. Both parts are necessary to make an impeachment under the Constitution: The House must actually send the articles and send managers to the Senate to prosecute the impeachment. "

If the House does not communicate its impeachment to the Senate, it hasn’t actually impeached the president.

 

[DrLove]

BREAKING -- Missouri Senator Hawley to Introduce MEASURE TO DISMISS Pelosi's Slapdash Impeachment on Monday
Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) announced today if Democrats DO NOT deliver their articles of impeachment to the US Senate as is required he will introduce a measure on Monday to dismiss Pelosi’s slapdash articles of impeachment on Monday January 6th.


Oh you don't say now what.........its to distract or is to to...............

AS required? Where is the time frame written?

It isn't written. But that won't stop some Goober in Mississippi who's head looks like it got run over by a freight train from claiming that it is!

 

[MindWars]

BREAKING -- Missouri Senator Hawley to Introduce MEASURE TO DISMISS Pelosi's Slapdash Impeachment on Monday
Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) announced today if Democrats DO NOT deliver their articles of impeachment to the US Senate as is required he will introduce a measure on Monday to dismiss Pelosi’s slapdash articles of impeachment on Monday January 6th.


Oh you don't say now what.........its to distract or is to to...............

AS required? Where is the time frame written?

It isn't written. But that won't stop some Goober in Mississippi who's head looks like it got run over by a freight train from claiming that it is!

LOL . GOOBER I love that word .

 

[MindWars]

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Thank u just almost made me piss my pants!