Missouri Senator Hawley to introduce measure to dismiss Pelosi's slapdash impeachment on Monday

[Carl in Michigan]

And why not? Right wingers senselessly voted dozens of times to kill healthcare

Healthcare? Do you mean OBAMACARE? Seems to me you have healthcare

 

[DrLove]

Again, for all you idiot Trump supporters who are believing the bullshit that Trump isn't impeached. Sorry, but Trump HAS been impeached, and it is the House that does the impeachment. After the impeachment, a trial is held in the Senate to determine if the president should remain in office or not.

The House does the impeaching. The Senate holds a trial to see if removal is warranted. The House can only do the impeachment, not removal, and the Senate can only vote to remove or not, but they cannot do anything concerning impeachment.

This senator is trying to do something that he's not authorized to do. The Senate has zero bearing on whether or not a president is impeached. If you doubt that, look at what happened to Clinton.

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia

Impeachment in the United States is the process by which a legislature (usually in the form of the lower house) brings charges against a civil officer of government for crimes alleged to have been committed, analogous to the bringing of an indictment by a grand jury. Impeachment may occur at the federal level or the state level. The federal House of Representatives can impeach federal officials, including the president, and each state's legislature can impeach state officials, including the governor, in accordance with their respective federal or state constitution.

Most impeachments have concerned alleged crimes committed while in office, though there have been a few cases in which officials have been impeached and subsequently convicted for crimes committed prior to taking office.[1] The impeached official remains in office until a trial is held. That trial, and removal from office if convicted, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future.

Impeachment is a process, not a vote you fucking moron. Impeachment is not complete until the articles are sent to the senate. PERIOD.

Nonsense - Trump is impeached whether articles are sent OR a trial is ever held.

Deal widdit .. The permanent Scarlet Letter and an asterisk are part and parcel of Donnie's legacy for eternity.

 

[Jitss617]

Cnn is still talking about Ukraine lol no wonder why democrat run towns are shit holes they never report real news

 

[airplanemechanic]

Again, for all you idiot Trump supporters who are believing the bullshit that Trump isn't impeached. Sorry, but Trump HAS been impeached, and it is the House that does the impeachment. After the impeachment, a trial is held in the Senate to determine if the president should remain in office or not.

The House does the impeaching. The Senate holds a trial to see if removal is warranted. The House can only do the impeachment, not removal, and the Senate can only vote to remove or not, but they cannot do anything concerning impeachment.

This senator is trying to do something that he's not authorized to do. The Senate has zero bearing on whether or not a president is impeached. If you doubt that, look at what happened to Clinton.

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia

Impeachment in the United States is the process by which a legislature (usually in the form of the lower house) brings charges against a civil officer of government for crimes alleged to have been committed, analogous to the bringing of an indictment by a grand jury. Impeachment may occur at the federal level or the state level. The federal House of Representatives can impeach federal officials, including the president, and each state's legislature can impeach state officials, including the governor, in accordance with their respective federal or state constitution.

Most impeachments have concerned alleged crimes committed while in office, though there have been a few cases in which officials have been impeached and subsequently convicted for crimes committed prior to taking office.[1] The impeached official remains in office until a trial is held. That trial, and removal from office if convicted, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future.

Impeachment is a process, not a vote you fucking moron. Impeachment is not complete until the articles are sent to the senate. PERIOD.

Nonsense - Trump is impeached whether articles are sent OR a trial is ever held.

Deal widdit .. The permanent Scarlet Letter and an asterisk are part and parcel of Donnie's legacy for eternity.

Ok prove it. Show in the constitution where it says that the president is impeached as soon as the vote is held.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Doesn't change the fact that it is an OPINION piece, show us where the Constitution states that.

It's actually an opinion from a LAWYER...

So would YOU care to give us YOUR legal qualifications???

Or are we supposed to take legal opinions from a couple of nitwits on a message board???
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Can you show us where it states that in the Constitution since that is instruction manual the country is run by.

Can you explain how you can have a trial if the prosecutor doesn't give the charges to the judge and jury???

Hmmmm hard to have a trial when the key witnesses and criminal are allowed to hide from the prosecutor.

You mean accused? What is he hiding? He released the transcript.

Why didn't Mulvaney, Bolton or Pompeo testify?

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Doesn't change the fact that it is an OPINION piece, show us where the Constitution states that.

It's actually an opinion from a LAWYER...

So would YOU care to give us YOUR legal qualifications???

Or are we supposed to take legal opinions from a couple of nitwits on a message board???
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Can you show us where it states that in the Constitution since that is instruction manual the country is run by.

Can you explain how you can have a trial if the prosecutor doesn't give the charges to the judge and jury???

Hmmmm hard to have a trial when the key witnesses and criminal are allowed to hide from the prosecutor.

Actually, it looks like the SENATE is trying to start the trial, and the prosecution is a "no show"...

Maybe Pelosi's dementia is kicking in again!!!
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The Senate is trying to start a joke and call it a trial.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Doesn't change the fact that it is an OPINION piece, show us where the Constitution states that.

It's actually an opinion from a LAWYER...

So would YOU care to give us YOUR legal qualifications???

Or are we supposed to take legal opinions from a couple of nitwits on a message board???
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Can you show us where it states that in the Constitution since that is instruction manual the country is run by.

Can you explain how you can have a trial if the prosecutor doesn't give the charges to the judge and jury???

Hmmmm hard to have a trial when the key witnesses and criminal are allowed to hide from the prosecutor.

Hmmmm hard to have a fair impeachment hearing when Trump is not allowed to call any witnesses or have his attorney present.

Trump doesn't run the House and since when does he call witnesses in the Impeachment. He can call witnesses in the Senate trial.

Article I, Section 2, Clause 5 provides:

The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

Again, for all you idiot Trump supporters who are believing the bullshit that Trump isn't impeached. Sorry, but Trump HAS been impeached, and it is the House that does the impeachment. After the impeachment, a trial is held in the Senate to determine if the president should remain in office or not.

The House does the impeaching. The Senate holds a trial to see if removal is warranted. The House can only do the impeachment, not removal, and the Senate can only vote to remove or not, but they cannot do anything concerning impeachment.

This senator is trying to do something that he's not authorized to do. The Senate has zero bearing on whether or not a president is impeached. If you doubt that, look at what happened to Clinton.

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia

Impeachment in the United States is the process by which a legislature (usually in the form of the lower house) brings charges against a civil officer of government for crimes alleged to have been committed, analogous to the bringing of an indictment by a grand jury. Impeachment may occur at the federal level or the state level. The federal House of Representatives can impeach federal officials, including the president, and each state's legislature can impeach state officials, including the governor, in accordance with their respective federal or state constitution.

Most impeachments have concerned alleged crimes committed while in office, though there have been a few cases in which officials have been impeached and subsequently convicted for crimes committed prior to taking office.[1] The impeached official remains in office until a trial is held. That trial, and removal from office if convicted, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future.

Impeachment is a process, not a vote you fucking moron. Impeachment is not complete until the articles are sent to the senate. PERIOD.

Nonsense - Trump is impeached whether articles are sent OR a trial is ever held.

Deal widdit .. The permanent Scarlet Letter and an asterisk are part and parcel of Donnie's legacy for eternity.

Ok prove it. Show in the constitution where it says that the president is impeached as soon as the vote is held.

Article I, Section 2, Clause 5 provides:

The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

 

[DrLove]

Again, for all you idiot Trump supporters who are believing the bullshit that Trump isn't impeached. Sorry, but Trump HAS been impeached, and it is the House that does the impeachment. After the impeachment, a trial is held in the Senate to determine if the president should remain in office or not.

The House does the impeaching. The Senate holds a trial to see if removal is warranted. The House can only do the impeachment, not removal, and the Senate can only vote to remove or not, but they cannot do anything concerning impeachment.

This senator is trying to do something that he's not authorized to do. The Senate has zero bearing on whether or not a president is impeached. If you doubt that, look at what happened to Clinton.

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia

Impeachment in the United States is the process by which a legislature (usually in the form of the lower house) brings charges against a civil officer of government for crimes alleged to have been committed, analogous to the bringing of an indictment by a grand jury. Impeachment may occur at the federal level or the state level. The federal House of Representatives can impeach federal officials, including the president, and each state's legislature can impeach state officials, including the governor, in accordance with their respective federal or state constitution.

Most impeachments have concerned alleged crimes committed while in office, though there have been a few cases in which officials have been impeached and subsequently convicted for crimes committed prior to taking office.[1] The impeached official remains in office until a trial is held. That trial, and removal from office if convicted, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future.

Impeachment is a process, not a vote you fucking moron. Impeachment is not complete until the articles are sent to the senate. PERIOD.

Nonsense - Trump is impeached whether articles are sent OR a trial is ever held.

Deal widdit .. The permanent Scarlet Letter and an asterisk are part and parcel of Donnie's legacy for eternity.

Ok prove it. Show in the constitution where it says that the president is impeached as soon as the vote is held.

Impeachment does not mean removal. The sole power of impeachment lies in the House. Read your fucking constitution - Trump is IMPEACHED.

 

[busybee01]

Only problem is, the Senate cannot do that. The House does the impeachment, and the Senate decides if the president should remain in office or not. Says so in the Constitution.

So -

In layman's terms The House is the prosecutor
The Senate is the jury
John Roberts would serve as the judge


Yes?

Actually, impeachments can't really be explained in simple criminal law terms, as it isn't done that way.

The House hears about possible charges. They run an investigation and gather information. If the information says that impeachment is warranted, they vote to impeach. If the vote fails, the impeachment process is over and there is no impeachment. If the vote passes, the president is impeached.

Once impeached, it is then sent to the Senate to determine if the president can stay in office or not. The Senate has no say as to whether or not the president is impeached, they simply decide if he can stay or not.

Sorry, but what the senator wants to do (vote to void the impeachment) would only be symbolic at best, but would have zero impact on the impeachment. Sorry, but no matter how much you guys wish to believe that Trump hasn't been impeached yet, he has. And, there is nothing the Senate can do to void it as that falls solely under the House authority.

Actually, impeachment is a process...

The House has to send the impeachment to the SENATE (which they have so far failed to do)...

So, technically, Trump hasn't been impeached yet!!!
Trump Isn’t Impeached Until the House Tells the Senate

Trump has been impeached.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Trump has been impeached. Deal with it.

 

[Billiejeens]

Only problem is, the Senate cannot do that. The House does the impeachment, and the Senate decides if the president should remain in office or not. Says so in the Constitution.

So -

In layman's terms The House is the prosecutor
The Senate is the jury
John Roberts would serve as the judge


Yes?

Actually, impeachments can't really be explained in simple criminal law terms, as it isn't done that way.

The House hears about possible charges. They run an investigation and gather information. If the information says that impeachment is warranted, they vote to impeach. If the vote fails, the impeachment process is over and there is no impeachment. If the vote passes, the president is impeached.

Once impeached, it is then sent to the Senate to determine if the president can stay in office or not. The Senate has no say as to whether or not the president is impeached, they simply decide if he can stay or not.

Sorry, but what the senator wants to do (vote to void the impeachment) would only be symbolic at best, but would have zero impact on the impeachment. Sorry, but no matter how much you guys wish to believe that Trump hasn't been impeached yet, he has. And, there is nothing the Senate can do to void it as that falls solely under the House authority.

Actually, what The House did is symbolic at best.
They voted yes to Impeach him, but have yet to actually Impeach him.

Low intelligence people think he has been impeached.
Lower intelligence people think that he has been removed.

It would be like a traffic cop stopping you and writing you a ticket and then throwing his copy on the dashboard and never filling it.
Your neighbors see you pulled over they see the officer give you a ticket - but your not actually ticketed.

Or your wife writing up divorce papers and telling everyone that you are getting divorced but never filing or serving you the papers.
You have the stigma of the divorce, yet there is no divorce actually pending.
Until the House fills out the paperwork it just a rumor meant to hurt President Trump and pacify the least among us.

 

[Markle]

The Senate is trying to start a joke and call it a trial.

And the House did not start a joke? They were discussing Impeachment BEFORE President Trump took office. That's a joke!

 

[Superbadbrutha]

The Senate is trying to start a joke and call it a trial.

And the House did not start a joke? They were discussing Impeachment BEFORE President Trump took office. That's a joke!

Makes you wonder how they knew that.

 

[lantern2814]

Again, for all you idiot Trump supporters who are believing the bullshit that Trump isn't impeached. Sorry, but Trump HAS been impeached, and it is the House that does the impeachment. After the impeachment, a trial is held in the Senate to determine if the president should remain in office or not.

The House does the impeaching. The Senate holds a trial to see if removal is warranted. The House can only do the impeachment, not removal, and the Senate can only vote to remove or not, but they cannot do anything concerning impeachment.

This senator is trying to do something that he's not authorized to do. The Senate has zero bearing on whether or not a president is impeached. If you doubt that, look at what happened to Clinton.

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia

Impeachment in the United States is the process by which a legislature (usually in the form of the lower house) brings charges against a civil officer of government for crimes alleged to have been committed, analogous to the bringing of an indictment by a grand jury. Impeachment may occur at the federal level or the state level. The federal House of Representatives can impeach federal officials, including the president, and each state's legislature can impeach state officials, including the governor, in accordance with their respective federal or state constitution.

Most impeachments have concerned alleged crimes committed while in office, though there have been a few cases in which officials have been impeached and subsequently convicted for crimes committed prior to taking office.[1] The impeached official remains in office until a trial is held. That trial, and removal from office if convicted, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future.

Now to completely destroy your bullshit. If Trump is impeached, as YOU claim, then the Senate can set a date and vote whenever they want. When you don’t show up with your phony articles, it’s case dismissed. If the Senate can’t set a trial date yet, as YOU claim, then Trump is NOT impeached. So sorry loser, he’s NOT impeached per your own rant.

 

[Markle]

The Senate is trying to start a joke and call it a trial.

And the House did not start a joke? They were discussing Impeachment BEFORE President Trump took office. That's a joke!

Makes you wonder how they knew that.

Hillary lost, that's all they needed.

 

[Superbadbrutha]

The Senate is trying to start a joke and call it a trial.

And the House did not start a joke? They were discussing Impeachment BEFORE President Trump took office. That's a joke!

Makes you wonder how they knew that.

Hillary lost, that's all they needed.

Yep she carried too much baggage, hell you know she was a horrible candidate if she lost to Trump.

 

[Billy_Bob]

BREAKING -- Missouri Senator Hawley to Introduce MEASURE TO DISMISS Pelosi's Slapdash Impeachment on Monday
Senator Josh Hawley (R-MO) announced today if Democrats DO NOT deliver their articles of impeachment to the US Senate as is required he will introduce a measure on Monday to dismiss Pelosi’s slapdash articles of impeachment on Monday January 6th.
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House rules require them to be immediately transmitted

 

[Billy_Bob]

Again, for all you idiot Trump supporters who are believing the bullshit that Trump isn't impeached. Sorry, but Trump HAS been impeached, and it is the House that does the impeachment. After the impeachment, a trial is held in the Senate to determine if the president should remain in office or not.

The House does the impeaching. The Senate holds a trial to see if removal is warranted. The House can only do the impeachment, not removal, and the Senate can only vote to remove or not, but they cannot do anything concerning impeachment.

This senator is trying to do something that he's not authorized to do. The Senate has zero bearing on whether or not a president is impeached. If you doubt that, look at what happened to Clinton.

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia

Impeachment in the United States is the process by which a legislature (usually in the form of the lower house) brings charges against a civil officer of government for crimes alleged to have been committed, analogous to the bringing of an indictment by a grand jury. Impeachment may occur at the federal level or the state level. The federal House of Representatives can impeach federal officials, including the president, and each state's legislature can impeach state officials, including the governor, in accordance with their respective federal or state constitution.

Most impeachments have concerned alleged crimes committed while in office, though there have been a few cases in which officials have been impeached and subsequently convicted for crimes committed prior to taking office.[1] The impeached official remains in office until a trial is held. That trial, and removal from office if convicted, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future.

Now to completely destroy your bullshit. If Trump is impeached, as YOU claim, then the Senate can set a date and vote whenever they want. When you don’t show up with your phony articles, it’s case dismissed. If the Senate can’t set a trial date yet, as YOU claim, then Trump is NOT impeached. So sorry loser, he’s NOT impeached per your own rant.

Correct;

Until the judge/court is given the document or in this case the senate nothing has happened.. Its just like a prosecutor who writes up an indictment but never delivers it to the trial (court) authority. Its a meaningless pile of crap..

Now the vote in the House was public and the Senate can schedule a trial for Monday. If they dont show up, they can throw out the indictment for cause and its over.