Mother has kids kidnapped from her,she in return kills CPS agent.

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

I didn't judge you, I said killing a cat is very disturbing and a person that does that might have emotional issues.

That's called judging, you idiot.

Bull shit, I didn't say you specifically. I don't care what you do, as long as you aren't living near me, you can do what you want and one day a neighbor will blow your ass away.

Now you're threatening me with violence. I've decided to place you on permanent as a prudent response. Have a nice long life.

He did no no such thing. And if you are killing animals it's just a matter of a short time before the authorities come knocking on your door.

I'm going to start ignoring everyone who thinks this thread is about a stupid cat, starting with you.

 

[Papageorgio]

I didn't judge you, I said killing a cat is very disturbing and a person that does that might have emotional issues.

That's called judging, you idiot.

Bull shit, I didn't say you specifically. I don't care what you do, as long as you aren't living near me, you can do what you want and one day a neighbor will blow your ass away.

Now you're threatening me with violence. I've decided to place you on permanent as a prudent response. Have a nice long life.

He did no no such thing. And if you are killing animals it's just a matter of a short time before the authorities come knocking on your door.

I'm going to start ignoring everyone who thinks this thread is about a stupid cat, starting with you.

You are the one making it about a cat. You could never had mentioned that you get a thrill out of killing cats and the thread would have went on.

 

[JakeStarkey]

If he gets a thrill out of cats, he is dangerous to humans.

Classic serial pathology identifies such behavior as that associated with people who like to hurt other people.

Best report him.

 

[Maryland Patriot]

I didn't judge you, I said killing a cat is very disturbing and a person that does that might have emotional issues.

That's called judging, you idiot.

Bull shit, I didn't say you specifically. I don't care what you do, as long as you aren't living near me, you can do what you want and one day a neighbor will blow your ass away.

Now you're threatening me with violence. I've decided to place you on permanent as a prudent response. Have a nice long life.

He did no no such thing. And if you are killing animals it's just a matter of a short time before the authorities come knocking on your door.

Maybe he is Asian.
As long as you eat what you shoot....

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

THIS MAN WAS MURDERED FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION as well as another person..a woman ..

STEALING KIDS FROM THE AMERICAN FAMILIES HAS BECOME BIG BUSINESS...Just follow the MONEY MONEY MONEY! ..


If you wonder why I am bringing all of this up and making you uncomfortable, the reason is two-fold.

It was the same set of circumstances as I have just described above that set me off to do something about what someone was doing to children in my country. I realized that those few seconds of discomfort I experienced was nothing compared what those children had to have undergone, second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day for months and months. While it is true I didn’t know about it back then, that didn’t change the fact that had I looked, had I learned what these horrible monsters were doing to children years before maybe I could have done something to stop it. To me, unawareness was not an excuse I could accept and so, here I sit today writing this, trying to get those who understand what responsibility is to come take some and we can change this.

I decided to dedicate my life to the exposing of one of the worst criminal activities in the history of this country, in my opinion.

This criminal organization specialized in destroying families and children and over a thousand children died due to neglect or are outright murdered every year in this country alone, while in the “protection and control” of CPS.

The most active opponent to all of this was former State Senator Nancy Schaefer, GA, who was murdered. THAT she was murdered is not in question, the only question that remains is who murdered her and the official story is very hard to swallow if any of the facts about her assassination are known.

We are looking at a multi-billion dollar industry, with huge amounts of money going to the various states so they don’t change this corrupt system.

Drug companies make billions of the full priced non generic drugs they sell to CPS and which are forced on these small children whose biggest upset is that they can’t live with their mommies anymore.

First you take the child away from their parents and when they cry about it you get some unlicensed mental health worker to diagnose that child as being “DEPRESSED.” Gee, ya think? Well, that and the fact that the big man sometimes into their room at night and does horrible things to them and child sexual abuse is a lot more rampant than CPS would ever want anyone to know about.

CPS investigates allegations of the sexual abuse of the children in their care and a finding of substantiated would result in a successful civil action being brought against them by the parents. So, virtually every investigation conducted by CPS into the sexual molestation of children comes back as unfounded, thus saving them millions in lawsuits and after all to CPS workers it is only the molestation of some dirt bag mother’s child, so who really cares? Besides if the child is unhappy they can always just put them on a fistful of anti-depressants and they will shut up. Those drugs don’t help them but they sure shut them up.

Well, at least until that child is 18 and a basket case from taking those drugs and then CPS cuts them off because the child has “timed out” and is no longer worth anything to CPS because they don’t receive any more money per month for that child and now the child has no value.

OF course now that messed former CPS child will make a lot of mistakes and their children become CPS bait in the future. Remember over half of those in prison today are former foster children. Wow, what a legacy CPS is creating eh?

What is really needed here is an expanded public awareness of what CPS has degraded into and the sick criminals that run it.

That can be done and to that end I have decided to produce books and films that will bring these horrific crimes and the criminals responsible for them, to light. That is what I do and I do it 7 days a week, about 12 hours per day.

However, Bill Bowen died in 2010, and his work stopped.

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT! NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN
- See more at: Filmmaker Was Documenting Abuses in CPS and Children Murdered under State Custody Before He Died

GO TO LINK TO SEE THE VIDEO..

The more Christianity is taken from the people..the more evil this society has become..and its ALWAYS CHILDREN FIRST..who are abused..then women...

FEMINISTS..YOUR THE DUMBEST ANIMALS ON THE PLANET...

THE MORALITY OF THE LAND..IS CONTROLLED BY ITS WOMEN..Americas women have become harlots...whores...and now..men wont marry you..because your whores..and your children are fatherless bastards..

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER...NO LIBERAL SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE..

There is so much equine excrement here that I don't know where to begin. First of all, even if all of these cases were 100% true as presented. It in no way proves that the entire system is corrupt. Shit happens everywhere. Second of , who the hell is profiting off of placing children in foster care. Name some names. Be specific. In addition, the statement that all investigation of sexual abuse in foster care are unfounded, is even more stupid that anything else here. It totally undermines the credibility of the whole film. You think that liberalism is a mental disorder, I think that the need to spread this kid of irresponsible shit is a mental disorder.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

THIS MAN WAS MURDERED FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION as well as another person..a woman ..

STEALING KIDS FROM THE AMERICAN FAMILIES HAS BECOME BIG BUSINESS...Just follow the MONEY MONEY MONEY! ..


If you wonder why I am bringing all of this up and making you uncomfortable, the reason is two-fold.

It was the same set of circumstances as I have just described above that set me off to do something about what someone was doing to children in my country. I realized that those few seconds of discomfort I experienced was nothing compared what those children had to have undergone, second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day for months and months. While it is true I didn’t know about it back then, that didn’t change the fact that had I looked, had I learned what these horrible monsters were doing to children years before maybe I could have done something to stop it. To me, unawareness was not an excuse I could accept and so, here I sit today writing this, trying to get those who understand what responsibility is to come take some and we can change this.

I decided to dedicate my life to the exposing of one of the worst criminal activities in the history of this country, in my opinion.

This criminal organization specialized in destroying families and children and over a thousand children died due to neglect or are outright murdered every year in this country alone, while in the “protection and control” of CPS.

The most active opponent to all of this was former State Senator Nancy Schaefer, GA, who was murdered. THAT she was murdered is not in question, the only question that remains is who murdered her and the official story is very hard to swallow if any of the facts about her assassination are known.

We are looking at a multi-billion dollar industry, with huge amounts of money going to the various states so they don’t change this corrupt system.

Drug companies make billions of the full priced non generic drugs they sell to CPS and which are forced on these small children whose biggest upset is that they can’t live with their mommies anymore.

First you take the child away from their parents and when they cry about it you get some unlicensed mental health worker to diagnose that child as being “DEPRESSED.” Gee, ya think? Well, that and the fact that the big man sometimes into their room at night and does horrible things to them and child sexual abuse is a lot more rampant than CPS would ever want anyone to know about.

CPS investigates allegations of the sexual abuse of the children in their care and a finding of substantiated would result in a successful civil action being brought against them by the parents. So, virtually every investigation conducted by CPS into the sexual molestation of children comes back as unfounded, thus saving them millions in lawsuits and after all to CPS workers it is only the molestation of some dirt bag mother’s child, so who really cares? Besides if the child is unhappy they can always just put them on a fistful of anti-depressants and they will shut up. Those drugs don’t help them but they sure shut them up.

Well, at least until that child is 18 and a basket case from taking those drugs and then CPS cuts them off because the child has “timed out” and is no longer worth anything to CPS because they don’t receive any more money per month for that child and now the child has no value.

OF course now that messed former CPS child will make a lot of mistakes and their children become CPS bait in the future. Remember over half of those in prison today are former foster children. Wow, what a legacy CPS is creating eh?

What is really needed here is an expanded public awareness of what CPS has degraded into and the sick criminals that run it.

That can be done and to that end I have decided to produce books and films that will bring these horrific crimes and the criminals responsible for them, to light. That is what I do and I do it 7 days a week, about 12 hours per day.

However, Bill Bowen died in 2010, and his work stopped.

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT! NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN
- See more at: Filmmaker Was Documenting Abuses in CPS and Children Murdered under State Custody Before He Died

GO TO LINK TO SEE THE VIDEO..

The more Christianity is taken from the people..the more evil this society has become..and its ALWAYS CHILDREN FIRST..who are abused..then women...

FEMINISTS..YOUR THE DUMBEST ANIMALS ON THE PLANET...

THE MORALITY OF THE LAND..IS CONTROLLED BY ITS WOMEN..Americas women have become harlots...whores...and now..men wont marry you..because your whores..and your children are fatherless bastards..

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER...NO LIBERAL SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE..

There is so much equine excrement here that I don't know where to begin. First of all, even if all of these cases were 100% true as presented. It in no way proves that the entire system is corrupt. Shit happens everywhere. Second of , who the hell is profiting off of placing children in foster care. Name some names. Be specific. In addition, the statement that all investigation of sexual abuse in foster care are unfounded, is even more stupid that anything else here. It totally undermines the credibility of the whole film. You think that liberalism is a mental disorder, I think that the need to spread this kid of irresponsible shit is a mental disorder.

More outrage? Nobody's claiming that all CPS workers are corrupt, so one wonders who you are addressing this to.

 

[paddymurphy]

Officials Mom who lost custody kills kids services worker - WRGB CBS6 - Top Stories

GOOD JOB MOM! What ANY parent should do. These sons of bitches are nothing but domestic terrorists and deserve ANYTHING like this that happens to them.

So, why did they take your kids from you? Molestation...neglect...abuse.

 

[paddymurphy]

this isn't maternal instinct. it's murderous rage.

It's maternal instinct. I wish it would happen more often, especially when the reason for taking children out of the home is ridiculous.

it absolutely wasn't. it was revenge. she didn't shoot the agents that took her kids while they were doing it. she didn't try to run off with the kids away from cps. she waited outside a state office building and gunned down an agent in cold blood. it's fucking sick and should never be cheered. i thought you respected life?

A cop was likely with the CPS agent when they removed the girl. I would have waited too.

They ALWAYS are. Cops are just as guilty in this....their job is to protect and serve not help kidnap so state can make more money.

It also pisses me off that anyone can make an "anonymous" call to CPS and make shit up and they show up at your door. That happened to my family and for a stupid reason. The tipster, and we know who it was, had to exaggerate and straight out lie to get somebody to show up. It's amazing how quickly and easily the government can get right into your home and your life based on a whim. I understand the murderous rage when my children are threatened to be taken out of my home. I killed that woman's cat and made sure she knew it even though she couldn't prove it.

So, if someone were to call and report that a child was being physically abused, you don't think that would be worth a visit to find out if it were true or not? Cause kids are not abused by their parents, right?

"According to West’s study, in 2004, 311 of 578 children under the age of 5, or 53.8 percent, were killed by their parents in the United States. The study says that between 1976 and 2004, 30 percent of children under 5 who were murdered were killed by their mother, while 31 percent were killed by their fathers. Another study published by researchers at Brown University in 2014 using data from a 32-year period concluded American parents commit filicide about 500 times a year."

The only assholes defending this murder are the kind who have had their kids taken from them for valid reasons.

 

[paddymurphy]

this isn't maternal instinct. it's murderous rage.

It's maternal instinct. I wish it would happen more often, especially when the reason for taking children out of the home is ridiculous.

it absolutely wasn't. it was revenge. she didn't shoot the agents that took her kids while they were doing it. she didn't try to run off with the kids away from cps. she waited outside a state office building and gunned down an agent in cold blood. it's fucking sick and should never be cheered. i thought you respected life?

A cop was likely with the CPS agent when they removed the girl. I would have waited too.

They ALWAYS are. Cops are just as guilty in this....their job is to protect and serve not help kidnap so state can make more money.

It also pisses me off that anyone can make an "anonymous" call to CPS and make shit up and they show up at your door. That happened to my family and for a stupid reason. The tipster, and we know who it was, had to exaggerate and straight out lie to get somebody to show up. It's amazing how quickly and easily the government can get right into your home and your life based on a whim. I understand the murderous rage when my children are threatened to be taken out of my home. I killed that woman's cat and made sure she knew it even though she couldn't prove it.

What a fucking coward you are. Of course, assholes like you talk about your bad ass selves but make most of that shit up.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

THIS MAN WAS MURDERED FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION as well as another person..a woman ..

STEALING KIDS FROM THE AMERICAN FAMILIES HAS BECOME BIG BUSINESS...Just follow the MONEY MONEY MONEY! ..


If you wonder why I am bringing all of this up and making you uncomfortable, the reason is two-fold.

It was the same set of circumstances as I have just described above that set me off to do something about what someone was doing to children in my country. I realized that those few seconds of discomfort I experienced was nothing compared what those children had to have undergone, second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day for months and months. While it is true I didn’t know about it back then, that didn’t change the fact that had I looked, had I learned what these horrible monsters were doing to children years before maybe I could have done something to stop it. To me, unawareness was not an excuse I could accept and so, here I sit today writing this, trying to get those who understand what responsibility is to come take some and we can change this.

I decided to dedicate my life to the exposing of one of the worst criminal activities in the history of this country, in my opinion.

This criminal organization specialized in destroying families and children and over a thousand children died due to neglect or are outright murdered every year in this country alone, while in the “protection and control” of CPS.

The most active opponent to all of this was former State Senator Nancy Schaefer, GA, who was murdered. THAT she was murdered is not in question, the only question that remains is who murdered her and the official story is very hard to swallow if any of the facts about her assassination are known.

We are looking at a multi-billion dollar industry, with huge amounts of money going to the various states so they don’t change this corrupt system.

Drug companies make billions of the full priced non generic drugs they sell to CPS and which are forced on these small children whose biggest upset is that they can’t live with their mommies anymore.

First you take the child away from their parents and when they cry about it you get some unlicensed mental health worker to diagnose that child as being “DEPRESSED.” Gee, ya think? Well, that and the fact that the big man sometimes into their room at night and does horrible things to them and child sexual abuse is a lot more rampant than CPS would ever want anyone to know about.

CPS investigates allegations of the sexual abuse of the children in their care and a finding of substantiated would result in a successful civil action being brought against them by the parents. So, virtually every investigation conducted by CPS into the sexual molestation of children comes back as unfounded, thus saving them millions in lawsuits and after all to CPS workers it is only the molestation of some dirt bag mother’s child, so who really cares? Besides if the child is unhappy they can always just put them on a fistful of anti-depressants and they will shut up. Those drugs don’t help them but they sure shut them up.

Well, at least until that child is 18 and a basket case from taking those drugs and then CPS cuts them off because the child has “timed out” and is no longer worth anything to CPS because they don’t receive any more money per month for that child and now the child has no value.

OF course now that messed former CPS child will make a lot of mistakes and their children become CPS bait in the future. Remember over half of those in prison today are former foster children. Wow, what a legacy CPS is creating eh?

What is really needed here is an expanded public awareness of what CPS has degraded into and the sick criminals that run it.

That can be done and to that end I have decided to produce books and films that will bring these horrific crimes and the criminals responsible for them, to light. That is what I do and I do it 7 days a week, about 12 hours per day.

However, Bill Bowen died in 2010, and his work stopped.

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT! NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN
- See more at: Filmmaker Was Documenting Abuses in CPS and Children Murdered under State Custody Before He Died

GO TO LINK TO SEE THE VIDEO..

The more Christianity is taken from the people..the more evil this society has become..and its ALWAYS CHILDREN FIRST..who are abused..then women...

FEMINISTS..YOUR THE DUMBEST ANIMALS ON THE PLANET...

THE MORALITY OF THE LAND..IS CONTROLLED BY ITS WOMEN..Americas women have become harlots...whores...and now..men wont marry you..because your whores..and your children are fatherless bastards..

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER...NO LIBERAL SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE..

There is so much equine excrement here that I don't know where to begin. First of all, even if all of these cases were 100% true as presented. It in no way proves that the entire system is corrupt. Shit happens everywhere. Second of , who the hell is profiting off of placing children in foster care. Name some names. Be specific. In addition, the statement that all investigation of sexual abuse in foster care are unfounded, is even more stupid that anything else here. It totally undermines the credibility of the whole film. You think that liberalism is a mental disorder, I think that the need to spread this kid of irresponsible shit is a mental disorder.

More outrage? Nobody's claiming that all CPS workers are corrupt, so one wonders who you are addressing this to.

Horseshit ! That is clearly the implication. It is a smear campaign and you know it.

 

[paddymurphy]

so you would also commit cold blooded murder?

It's hot blooded murder. If you're not going to be honest, I'm not going to engage with you.

it didn't happen in the heat of the moment. it was after, and it was calculated. cold blooded murder.

Yes it did happen in the heat of the moment. The kind of rage a parent experiences when government thugs perform a sanctioned kidnapping on their children does not wane quickly.

i don't think many people would argue that showing up at a government building and waiting for a cps agent would constitute a crime of passion.

also you don't sound sane. cps shows up at your door so you kill someone's cat? you are fucked up.

You wouldn't know, you're not a parent and you've never felt the rage when somebody threatens to have your children removed. You have never walked in my moccasins. She's lucky she just lost a cat.

The truly frightening thing is you probably got your kids back. How tragic for them.

 

[paddymurphy]

it didn't happen in the heat of the moment. it was after, and it was calculated. cold blooded murder.

Yes it did happen in the heat of the moment. The kind of rage a parent experiences when government thugs perform a sanctioned kidnapping on their children does not wane quickly.

i don't think many people would argue that showing up at a government building and waiting for a cps agent would constitute a crime of passion.

also you don't sound sane. cps shows up at your door so you kill someone's cat? you are fucked up.

You wouldn't know, you're not a parent and you've never felt the rage when somebody threatens to have your children removed. You have never walked in my moccasins. She's lucky she just lost a cat.

you don't know if i'm a parent or not.
one thing i can tell you for sure - cps will never be at my door, and i'll never kill anyone's cat out of a childish need for revenge.

Yes, I do know you are no parent. Any parent by now would have expressed at least an understanding of what a parent feels when somebody bereaves them of their children. I pay close attention to what people say and I'm smarter than you. You have no place in this discussion because you just don't understand.

" I'm smarter than you." Anyone who says this, proves it not to be true.

 

[Syriusly]

CPS CORRUPTION STORY #4...

I learned about five year old Logan Marr an absolutely beautiful little child. Her foster mom used to duct tape her to the bed so she didn’t have to deal with her. Then one day that foster mom wanted to watch her favorite cooking show so she duct tapped little Logan into a high chair in the basement so she wouldn’t have to hear her cry. Logan died from asphyxiation. Why didn’t CPS investigate or do anything about this horrible foster mother? What is again not widely known is that the foster mother WAS A CPS CASEWORKER and a rather highly regarded one back in Maine. Just picking up a little extra money taping up kids I guess. No doubt operating in the, “Best interest of the children.” -

See more at: Filmmaker Was Documenting Abuses in CPS and Children Murdered under State Custody Before He Died

A whole lot of excuses for a mom who goes out and murders:

• A mother of two children
• Her two cousins
• Her aunt

What is wrong with you people?

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Filmmaker Was Documenting Abuses in CPS and Children Murdered under State Custody Before He Died - See more at: Filmmaker Was Documenting Abuses in CPS and Children Murdered under State Custody Before He Died

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Bill Bowen, Innocence Destroyed

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In 2009, Bill Bowen released a trailer for a documentary film he was producing exposing the corruption within Child Protection Services across the United States. The film is called Innocence Destroyed. Bill Bowen died unexpectedly the next year, in 2010, reportedly from a heart attack, before he was able to finish the film.

The segments that were completed are now on YouTube, in three different videos. See below.

WARNING: Videos contain graphic content not suitable for children! For adults only. GO TO LINK FOR ALL OF THIS STORY...I ONLY POSTED EXCERPTS..

Here is some information about Bill Bowen, including some quotes directly attributed to him, that we were able to find on the Internet.

About Bill Bowen
Bill Bowen was a former firefighter and federal investigator. He was also known for exposing the New York City Fire Department in a book, Radio Silence F.D.N.Y. The Betrayal of New York’s Bravest, which he coauthored with Battalion Chief John Joyce. The book describes how 125 New York City firefighters and numerous civilians lost their lives on 9/11 due to problems with their two-way radios.

While he had many irons in the fire, his top priority was finishing Innocence Destroyed as well as helping people initiate class action lawsuits against Child Protective Services agencies in all fifty states. (Source: Daniel Weaver – Albany CPS and Family Court Examiner, September 10, 2010.)

Why Bill Bowen Started the Innocence Destroyed Film Project
WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT! NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN

The following alleged quotes from Bill Bowen are from LukesArmy.com:

**STORY #1..STEALING GOOD LOOKING KIDS THROUGH THE CPS SYSTEM FOR THEIR FRIENDS TO ADOPT..****.
Four years ago I was approached by a father who was in the process of losing his children through a Termination of Parental Rights case against him, brought by the Department of Human Services in Klamath Falls, OR. He told me the official, certified transcript of his hearing had been altered to reflect admissions never made and evidence and testimony never given.

I honestly did not believe him, but agreed to look into the matter a little bit. What I found was like reading a horror story, the worst one I had ever read. His certified transcript had been changed from the original audio recordings made in the courtroom. Not one of the well over one thousand alterations in that transcript favored the parents. The changes made only favored CPS and those transcripts had been sent to the Court of Appeals in Salem, OR by the father’s indigent, court appointed attorney.

I took my findings and a lot of evidence to that attorney who refused to address it with the appeals court. Somehow, when the appeals court found out they gave that attorney four extra months to get and present that evidence but cautioned the attorney they only wanted to hear about the altered transcripts and no other issues. That attorney argued everything under the sun, weakly, when he submitted his new brief, EXCEPT for the altered transcripts and the court said they had no choice but to refuse to overturn the lower court.

It turns out the Office of Public Defender Services has a general counsel. His secretary has some relatives that wanted to adopt some blonde haired, blue eyed children and this fathers kids were that and extremely beautiful. Those three children were given to the family of the secretary and the judge, Roxanne Osborn by name, allowed them to be adopted before the appeals court ruled. The state then argued that it was too late and so sorry and that couple lost their three children.

By the way, the crime the father had been charged with was drinking two beers after he had been told he was off probation and it was admitted he was told that. Then the probation department revoked his probation and called it threat of harm and their three children were given to parents who were not even certified or in line to adopt. I was outraged, as was the local senator I took this case to and DHS/CPS thumbed their nose at that senator and just continued on.

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THIS STORY IS ABOUT 'CHILD TRAFFICKING'...IN OUR COUNTRY..done by GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS...

AMERICA GONE WILD!!!!
Things were much better when children such as those who do really need to be removed from dysfunctional parents..WERE TAKEN CARE OF BY NUNS...AND CHURCHES....not the godless freaks in the CPS..

Your in good company with this crackpot and others like him. How come we can't find any of these stories in anything that resembles a legitimate news source. I won't say that there are no such true horror stories to be found. There are. Anyone can pull together a bunch of stories-real and made up and present it as a systemic failure. Most of these accounts are one sided and presented by abusive parents who cry victim.

This is just a smear of a legitimate and necessary service provided to protect children. I hade a career in CPS and I resent this horseshit. The vast majority of CPS workers are dedicated to the protection of children. People like you who promote this crap-crap that you don't even know that is true-are irresponsible and are undermining the good work of CPS who are out there day and night, putting themselves at risk, to ensure the well being of children.

Official investigations into CPS for involvement in the child sex slave trade are not wild conspiracy theories. You may not like what others in your profession do, but don't blame the people bringing it to light.

That is complete horseshit like everything else that you have to say here and on other threads. Of course there have been isolated cases of sexual and other abuse in the foster care system but just talking about those cases to make it sound as though it were endemic is irresponsible, dishonest and shameful! It undermines the systems ability to actually protect kids. Do you condemn all cops and all police departments because of the actions of a few bad cops and a handful of high profile cases?

Your remarks are insulting and personally demeaning as someone who had made a career in foster care and protective service. I started out investigating abuse and neglect case, later because a unit supervisor and also held a number of other jobs such as foster home recruiting and training.

In New Jersey, all out of home placements are subject to judicial review and other safeguards. In addition for the necessity of having a family court judge issue an order for custody, there is a volunteer citizen panel known as the Child Placement Review Board that reviews the cases on an ongoing basis.

Each child in the system is assigned a Law Guardian, an attorney who represents the child independently of the attorneys representing the parents and the state.

There may also be a court appointed special advocate who ensures that the child's best interests are the primary goal. I don't doubt that all states have similar systems in place

Now, tell me, how the fuck is CPS going to get away with engaging in a child sex slave trade. That is just as stupid as stupid gets!

And yet it happens. There's big money in child exploitation and your precious CPS has been dipping in. Your angry rants don't make that simple fact go away.

More horseshit. Who is making money. Show us. Provide the documentation.

 

[Syriusly]

THIS MAN WAS MURDERED FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION as well as another person..a woman ..

STEALING KIDS FROM THE AMERICAN FAMILIES HAS BECOME BIG BUSINESS...Just follow the MONEY MONEY MONEY! ..


If you wonder why I am bringing all of this up and making you uncomfortable, the reason is two-fold.

It was the same set of circumstances as I have just described above that set me off to do something about what someone was doing to children in my country. I realized that those few seconds of discomfort I experienced was nothing compared what those children had to have undergone, second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day for months and months. While it is true I didn’t know about it back then, that didn’t change the fact that had I looked, had I learned what these horrible monsters were doing to children years before maybe I could have done something to stop it. To me, unawareness was not an excuse I could accept and so, here I sit today writing this, trying to get those who understand what responsibility is to come take some and we can change this.

I decided to dedicate my life to the exposing of one of the worst criminal activities in the history of this country, in my opinion.

This criminal organization specialized in destroying families and children and over a thousand children died due to neglect or are outright murdered every year in this country alone, while in the “protection and control” of CPS.

The most active opponent to all of this was former State Senator Nancy Schaefer, GA, who was murdered. THAT she was murdered is not in question, the only question that remains is who murdered her and the official story is very hard to swallow if any of the facts about her assassination are known.

We are looking at a multi-billion dollar industry, with huge amounts of money going to the various states so they don’t change this corrupt system.

Drug companies make billions of the full priced non generic drugs they sell to CPS and which are forced on these small children whose biggest upset is that they can’t live with their mommies anymore.

First you take the child away from their parents and when they cry about it you get some unlicensed mental health worker to diagnose that child as being “DEPRESSED.” Gee, ya think? Well, that and the fact that the big man sometimes into their room at night and does horrible things to them and child sexual abuse is a lot more rampant than CPS would ever want anyone to know about.

CPS investigates allegations of the sexual abuse of the children in their care and a finding of substantiated would result in a successful civil action being brought against them by the parents. So, virtually every investigation conducted by CPS into the sexual molestation of children comes back as unfounded, thus saving them millions in lawsuits and after all to CPS workers it is only the molestation of some dirt bag mother’s child, so who really cares? Besides if the child is unhappy they can always just put them on a fistful of anti-depressants and they will shut up. Those drugs don’t help them but they sure shut them up.

Well, at least until that child is 18 and a basket case from taking those drugs and then CPS cuts them off because the child has “timed out” and is no longer worth anything to CPS because they don’t receive any more money per month for that child and now the child has no value.

OF course now that messed former CPS child will make a lot of mistakes and their children become CPS bait in the future. Remember over half of those in prison today are former foster children. Wow, what a legacy CPS is creating eh?

What is really needed here is an expanded public awareness of what CPS has degraded into and the sick criminals that run it.

That can be done and to that end I have decided to produce books and films that will bring these horrific crimes and the criminals responsible for them, to light. That is what I do and I do it 7 days a week, about 12 hours per day.

However, Bill Bowen died in 2010, and his work stopped.

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT! NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN
- See more at: Filmmaker Was Documenting Abuses in CPS and Children Murdered under State Custody Before He Died

GO TO LINK TO SEE THE VIDEO..

The more Christianity is taken from the people..the more evil this society has become..and its ALWAYS CHILDREN FIRST..who are abused..then women...

FEMINISTS..YOUR THE DUMBEST ANIMALS ON THE PLANET...

THE MORALITY OF THE LAND..IS CONTROLLED BY ITS WOMEN..Americas women have become harlots...whores...and now..men wont marry you..because your whores..and your children are fatherless bastards..

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER...NO LIBERAL SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE..

There is so much equine excrement here that I don't know where to begin. First of all, even if all of these cases were 100% true as presented. It in no way proves that the entire system is corrupt. Shit happens everywhere. Second of , who the hell is profiting off of placing children in foster care. Name some names. Be specific. In addition, the statement that all investigation of sexual abuse in foster care are unfounded, is even more stupid that anything else here. It totally undermines the credibility of the whole film. You think that liberalism is a mental disorder, I think that the need to spread this kid of irresponsible shit is a mental disorder.

More outrage? Nobody's claiming that all CPS workers are corrupt, so one wonders who you are addressing this to.

You are the one who cheered on the murderer of a child protection worker- assuming that she deserved to be murdered.

And of course you killed your neighbors cat in revenge.

 

[paddymurphy]

i don't think many people would argue that showing up at a government building and waiting for a cps agent would constitute a crime of passion.

also you don't sound sane. cps shows up at your door so you kill someone's cat? you are fucked up.

You wouldn't know, you're not a parent and you've never felt the rage when somebody threatens to have your children removed. You have never walked in my moccasins. She's lucky she just lost a cat.

you don't know if i'm a parent or not.
one thing i can tell you for sure - cps will never be at my door, and i'll never kill anyone's cat out of a childish need for revenge.

Yes, I do know you are no parent. Any parent by now would have expressed at least an understanding of what a parent feels when somebody bereaves them of their children. I pay close attention to what people say and I'm smarter than you. You have no place in this discussion because you just don't understand.

my son.
i can feel sympathy for someone losing custody of their children to cps - not a lot though because they were most likely mistreating that child to begin with.
i certainly don't feel sympathy for someone that loses their kids and decides to commit cold blooded murder over it.

I'm not your son, skid mark, and your supercilious tone is dismissed with prejudice. You've never felt the threat of somebody taking your children, I have. And as far as you speculating on how many cases involve genuine abuse or neglect, you have no fucking clue. Our children weren't neglected or abused in any way, and yet CPS shows up at our door because somebody didn't like the fact we run a clothing optional home and decided to make outlandish allegations to get somebody to show up to investigate. We're just average Americans and this shit happened to us.

Yes, it was quickly determined that we weren't doing anything illegal or inappropriate and I credit CPS for that. But I'll never forget the feeling of fear in the pit of my stomach when the possibility of losing my children seemed very real. And because I don't think anyone who makes up false allegations to get CPS to respond, I killed that woman's cat. She's a predator, but hopefully she'll think twice before doing this to anyone else. But that's a measure of the fear I felt, something you, not being a parent, couldn't possibly understand.

Why not post you real name so I can call CPS. Any sick fuck who would kill a cat is too fucking sick to have children. Probably killed the cat because she was right about you and your strange activity with your kids.

 

[Syriusly]

I didn't judge you, I said killing a cat is very disturbing and a person that does that might have emotional issues.

That's called judging, you idiot.

Bull shit, I didn't say you specifically. I don't care what you do, as long as you aren't living near me, you can do what you want and one day a neighbor will blow your ass away.

Now you're threatening me with violence. I've decided to place you on permanent as a prudent response. Have a nice long life.

He did no no such thing. And if you are killing animals it's just a matter of a short time before the authorities come knocking on your door.

I'm going to start ignoring everyone who thinks this thread is about a stupid cat, starting with you.

You brought up your own action of killing a cat- to get even with your neighbor.

You are a violent cat killer- and someone who is cheering on a murderer.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

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Bill Bowen, Innocence Destroyed

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In 2009, Bill Bowen released a trailer for a documentary film he was producing exposing the corruption within Child Protection Services across the United States. The film is called Innocence Destroyed. Bill Bowen died unexpectedly the next year, in 2010, reportedly from a heart attack, before he was able to finish the film.

The segments that were completed are now on YouTube, in three different videos. See below.

WARNING: Videos contain graphic content not suitable for children! For adults only. GO TO LINK FOR ALL OF THIS STORY...I ONLY POSTED EXCERPTS..

Here is some information about Bill Bowen, including some quotes directly attributed to him, that we were able to find on the Internet.

About Bill Bowen
Bill Bowen was a former firefighter and federal investigator. He was also known for exposing the New York City Fire Department in a book, Radio Silence F.D.N.Y. The Betrayal of New York’s Bravest, which he coauthored with Battalion Chief John Joyce. The book describes how 125 New York City firefighters and numerous civilians lost their lives on 9/11 due to problems with their two-way radios.

While he had many irons in the fire, his top priority was finishing Innocence Destroyed as well as helping people initiate class action lawsuits against Child Protective Services agencies in all fifty states. (Source: Daniel Weaver – Albany CPS and Family Court Examiner, September 10, 2010.)

Why Bill Bowen Started the Innocence Destroyed Film Project
WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT! NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN

The following alleged quotes from Bill Bowen are from LukesArmy.com:

**STORY #1..STEALING GOOD LOOKING KIDS THROUGH THE CPS SYSTEM FOR THEIR FRIENDS TO ADOPT..****.
Four years ago I was approached by a father who was in the process of losing his children through a Termination of Parental Rights case against him, brought by the Department of Human Services in Klamath Falls, OR. He told me the official, certified transcript of his hearing had been altered to reflect admissions never made and evidence and testimony never given.

I honestly did not believe him, but agreed to look into the matter a little bit. What I found was like reading a horror story, the worst one I had ever read. His certified transcript had been changed from the original audio recordings made in the courtroom. Not one of the well over one thousand alterations in that transcript favored the parents. The changes made only favored CPS and those transcripts had been sent to the Court of Appeals in Salem, OR by the father’s indigent, court appointed attorney.

I took my findings and a lot of evidence to that attorney who refused to address it with the appeals court. Somehow, when the appeals court found out they gave that attorney four extra months to get and present that evidence but cautioned the attorney they only wanted to hear about the altered transcripts and no other issues. That attorney argued everything under the sun, weakly, when he submitted his new brief, EXCEPT for the altered transcripts and the court said they had no choice but to refuse to overturn the lower court.

It turns out the Office of Public Defender Services has a general counsel. His secretary has some relatives that wanted to adopt some blonde haired, blue eyed children and this fathers kids were that and extremely beautiful. Those three children were given to the family of the secretary and the judge, Roxanne Osborn by name, allowed them to be adopted before the appeals court ruled. The state then argued that it was too late and so sorry and that couple lost their three children.

By the way, the crime the father had been charged with was drinking two beers after he had been told he was off probation and it was admitted he was told that. Then the probation department revoked his probation and called it threat of harm and their three children were given to parents who were not even certified or in line to adopt. I was outraged, as was the local senator I took this case to and DHS/CPS thumbed their nose at that senator and just continued on.

- See more at: Filmmaker Was Documenting Abuses in CPS and Children Murdered under State Custody Before He Died


THIS STORY IS ABOUT 'CHILD TRAFFICKING'...IN OUR COUNTRY..done by GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS...

AMERICA GONE WILD!!!!
Things were much better when children such as those who do really need to be removed from dysfunctional parents..WERE TAKEN CARE OF BY NUNS...AND CHURCHES....not the godless freaks in the CPS..

Your in good company with this crackpot and others like him. How come we can't find any of these stories in anything that resembles a legitimate news source. I won't say that there are no such true horror stories to be found. There are. Anyone can pull together a bunch of stories-real and made up and present it as a systemic failure. Most of these accounts are one sided and presented by abusive parents who cry victim.

This is just a smear of a legitimate and necessary service provided to protect children. I hade a career in CPS and I resent this horseshit. The vast majority of CPS workers are dedicated to the protection of children. People like you who promote this crap-crap that you don't even know that is true-are irresponsible and are undermining the good work of CPS who are out there day and night, putting themselves at risk, to ensure the well being of children.

Official investigations into CPS for involvement in the child sex slave trade are not wild conspiracy theories. You may not like what others in your profession do, but don't blame the people bringing it to light.

That is complete horseshit like everything else that you have to say here and on other threads. Of course there have been isolated cases of sexual and other abuse in the foster care system but just talking about those cases to make it sound as though it were endemic is irresponsible, dishonest and shameful! It undermines the systems ability to actually protect kids. Do you condemn all cops and all police departments because of the actions of a few bad cops and a handful of high profile cases?

Your remarks are insulting and personally demeaning as someone who had made a career in foster care and protective service. I started out investigating abuse and neglect case, later because a unit supervisor and also held a number of other jobs such as foster home recruiting and training.

In New Jersey, all out of home placements are subject to judicial review and other safeguards. In addition for the necessity of having a family court judge issue an order for custody, there is a volunteer citizen panel known as the Child Placement Review Board that reviews the cases on an ongoing basis.

Each child in the system is assigned a Law Guardian, an attorney who represents the child independently of the attorneys representing the parents and the state.

There may also be a court appointed special advocate who ensures that the child's best interests are the primary goal. I don't doubt that all states have similar systems in place

Now, tell me, how the fuck is CPS going to get away with engaging in a child sex slave trade. That is just as stupid as stupid gets!

And yet it happens. There's big money in child exploitation and your precious CPS has been dipping in. Your angry rants don't make that simple fact go away.

More horseshit. Who is making money. Show us. Provide the documentation.

You think that the sex slave trade is financed through public channels?

 

[paddymurphy]

it absolutely wasn't. it was revenge. she didn't shoot the agents that took her kids while they were doing it. she didn't try to run off with the kids away from cps. she waited outside a state office building and gunned down an agent in cold blood. it's fucking sick and should never be cheered. i thought you respected life?

A cop was likely with the CPS agent when they removed the girl. I would have waited too.

And then killed some other government worker in revenge?

And left your kids without a father?

Great example there.

We don't know enough about this case, in spite of my attempt to find other sources. What was the reason the girl was removed? Parents who know they fucked up with their children are rarely surprised or enraged when their children are taken from them. This woman felt such a sense of injustice that she gunned down a CPS worker. It makes me think this is one of many cases where a child who was not genuinely neglected or abused was removed from the home anyway.

You're still spewing bovine excrement directly out of your pie hole. How many neglected and abused children have you removed from parents? You think that because they are really harming the child they are not going to be upset? That is just fucking stupid

You're part of the problem this thread addresses. How many children have you removed because they were allowed to walk to the store alone or because they snuck a little booze from a visiting uncle? More than you'll admit here, that's for sure. I had one of you fucks show up at my door because sometimes we don't wear clothes in the house. I'm sure that I'm just like a lot of your victims now that CPS has expanded well beyond genuine cases of abuse or neglect where immediate intervention is required.

They showed up at your door. They asked you questions. They left. Your kids were not taken, though it is clear they should be.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

THIS MAN WAS MURDERED FOR BRINGING THIS INFORMATION TO THE PEOPLE OF THIS NATION as well as another person..a woman ..

STEALING KIDS FROM THE AMERICAN FAMILIES HAS BECOME BIG BUSINESS...Just follow the MONEY MONEY MONEY! ..


If you wonder why I am bringing all of this up and making you uncomfortable, the reason is two-fold.

It was the same set of circumstances as I have just described above that set me off to do something about what someone was doing to children in my country. I realized that those few seconds of discomfort I experienced was nothing compared what those children had to have undergone, second by second, minute by minute, hour by hour, day by day for months and months. While it is true I didn’t know about it back then, that didn’t change the fact that had I looked, had I learned what these horrible monsters were doing to children years before maybe I could have done something to stop it. To me, unawareness was not an excuse I could accept and so, here I sit today writing this, trying to get those who understand what responsibility is to come take some and we can change this.

I decided to dedicate my life to the exposing of one of the worst criminal activities in the history of this country, in my opinion.

This criminal organization specialized in destroying families and children and over a thousand children died due to neglect or are outright murdered every year in this country alone, while in the “protection and control” of CPS.

The most active opponent to all of this was former State Senator Nancy Schaefer, GA, who was murdered. THAT she was murdered is not in question, the only question that remains is who murdered her and the official story is very hard to swallow if any of the facts about her assassination are known.

We are looking at a multi-billion dollar industry, with huge amounts of money going to the various states so they don’t change this corrupt system.

Drug companies make billions of the full priced non generic drugs they sell to CPS and which are forced on these small children whose biggest upset is that they can’t live with their mommies anymore.

First you take the child away from their parents and when they cry about it you get some unlicensed mental health worker to diagnose that child as being “DEPRESSED.” Gee, ya think? Well, that and the fact that the big man sometimes into their room at night and does horrible things to them and child sexual abuse is a lot more rampant than CPS would ever want anyone to know about.

CPS investigates allegations of the sexual abuse of the children in their care and a finding of substantiated would result in a successful civil action being brought against them by the parents. So, virtually every investigation conducted by CPS into the sexual molestation of children comes back as unfounded, thus saving them millions in lawsuits and after all to CPS workers it is only the molestation of some dirt bag mother’s child, so who really cares? Besides if the child is unhappy they can always just put them on a fistful of anti-depressants and they will shut up. Those drugs don’t help them but they sure shut them up.

Well, at least until that child is 18 and a basket case from taking those drugs and then CPS cuts them off because the child has “timed out” and is no longer worth anything to CPS because they don’t receive any more money per month for that child and now the child has no value.

OF course now that messed former CPS child will make a lot of mistakes and their children become CPS bait in the future. Remember over half of those in prison today are former foster children. Wow, what a legacy CPS is creating eh?

What is really needed here is an expanded public awareness of what CPS has degraded into and the sick criminals that run it.

That can be done and to that end I have decided to produce books and films that will bring these horrific crimes and the criminals responsible for them, to light. That is what I do and I do it 7 days a week, about 12 hours per day.

However, Bill Bowen died in 2010, and his work stopped.

WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT! NOT SUITABLE FOR CHILDREN
- See more at: Filmmaker Was Documenting Abuses in CPS and Children Murdered under State Custody Before He Died

GO TO LINK TO SEE THE VIDEO..

The more Christianity is taken from the people..the more evil this society has become..and its ALWAYS CHILDREN FIRST..who are abused..then women...

FEMINISTS..YOUR THE DUMBEST ANIMALS ON THE PLANET...

THE MORALITY OF THE LAND..IS CONTROLLED BY ITS WOMEN..Americas women have become harlots...whores...and now..men wont marry you..because your whores..and your children are fatherless bastards..

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISORDER...NO LIBERAL SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO VOTE..

There is so much equine excrement here that I don't know where to begin. First of all, even if all of these cases were 100% true as presented. It in no way proves that the entire system is corrupt. Shit happens everywhere. Second of , who the hell is profiting off of placing children in foster care. Name some names. Be specific. In addition, the statement that all investigation of sexual abuse in foster care are unfounded, is even more stupid that anything else here. It totally undermines the credibility of the whole film. You think that liberalism is a mental disorder, I think that the need to spread this kid of irresponsible shit is a mental disorder.

More outrage? Nobody's claiming that all CPS workers are corrupt, so one wonders who you are addressing this to.

You are the one who cheered on the murderer of a child protection worker- assuming that she deserved to be murdered.

And of course you killed your neighbors cat in revenge.

The cat was actually collateral damage in a project aimed at killing possums.....

Or did you think I actually broke into a woman's house and killed a pet?

You're causing an itch in my iggy finger to. This thread is not about a stupid cat.