Nationalism vs. globalism

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Progressives can’t stand people they disagree with... They need the collective to control people they disagree with

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Many believe that nationalism and globalism are natural adversaries. However, I believe that nationalism at one time was a globalist tool. It was used in the US to shift power from the states to the Federal government. However, now that power has been centralized in the US federal government via the Progressive era, nationalism ironically is now no longer a collectivist tool, rather, it is a collectivist obstacle that impedes globalism. Now the US has been centralized enough through nationalism, it is now ripe to embrace globalism. But without the first step of nationalism, globalism would have been virtually impossible for America to embrace.

It is akin to unwelcomed immigration in America in the 1600's. At first, white Europeans came over by the droves as Indians tried to fight them off. Brown colored skin was seen as inferior as Indians were seen as barbarians. These Indians were made up of decentralized tribes that gave way to a more "progressive" centralized European style governments that united America into one government. Then power shifted from the states to the federal government through the more "progressive" nationalism.

However, now that collectivists have successfully centralized power in the US, they now ready themselves for more "progressive" globalism. Now instead of favoring white colored skin over dark, they favor dark colored skin over white. Now it is the white man who is the barbarian that needs to submit to his darker skinned counterparts. Now national borders must come down as globalism takes over and as national sovereignty becomes a thing of the past for the on coming globalist government to put us all under one banner. Now it's time to destroy and overwhelm sovereign nations so that the crumbling nations can be convinced to look for a global salvation.

So as we see, racism against white colored people and dark colored people are mere tools of the globalist/collectivist., as was nationalism.

Ironically though, it is only the adversaries of such progressives that are painted as "racists" as they try to hold onto nationalism in order to fight globalism and the destruction of their national sovereignty, much like the tribal Indians who tried to fight off the European invaders. It reminds me of the saying, "accuse the other side of that which you are guilty", which is often attributed to the Nazi propaganda administer Goebbels.

So even though there are racist nationalists, just remember, not all are. In addition, these constructs were created by globalists to begin with.

The only thing worse than nationalism... is globalism...

Franco the Nationalist / Monarchist / Fascist type guy.
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#1 economic growth in 20th Century Europe in the Spanish Miracle.

Spain since has adopted a more Capitalist approach, and it's floundering with near 20% unemployment, or perhaps much higher if you count the people who don't want jobs.

 

[FA_Q2]

We have been provided with false propaganda.

Here is what we have all been taught.

When it is more like this.

I would take issue with anarchy, however. For it is anarchy that leads to tyranny in pretty much every case.

Both are utterly incorrect. Fascism does not exist as a singular concept on the left or right - it ,can exist on either side of this particular spectrum as anarchy does as well. Anarchy is the stated goal of Marxist socialism yet also fits in with libertarian ideals as well. Clearly the above charts are totally false.

The grid is MUCH more accurate as it separates government control from economic goals. There you have true polar opposites - fascism/anarchy and socialism/free markets.

Anarchy is a goal but only to bring a police state to subdue it.

The police state is the goal.

No, it is not. The police state is the RESULT of a system that utterly ignores human nature but the ACTUAL (and impossible) goal of Marxism is anarchy. Unfortunately that simply cannot happen in a society of any real size or complexity.