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Satellite imagery from the 17th shows no damage at Kiev Int'l Airport.
So sad...
So sad...
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Well, there was a report of the Ukrainian military that they shoot down six Kinzhals at this day. Maybe the Russians really fired that number of the rockets and some of them hit the target.
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The attack and claimed intercepts happened the day before this satellite image, the video from the Kiev Citycam showed one (presumed) impact on May 16 at 2 a.m.Well, there was a report of the Ukrainian military that they shoot down six Kinzhals at this day. Maybe the Russians really fired that number of the rockets and some of them hit the target.
Patriot Radar Station and Five Missile Batteries Destroyed in Russian Hypersonic Strike on Kiev
Of course USA starts to deny the Patriot's failure to stop Kinzhal
Otherwise which idiot will purchase them and NATO stays practically defenseless
Yes, there is no visual evidence that the Patriot was hit. And if it was not about Ukrainian claimes about 6 downed Kinzhals, it would be possible to forget about it and move on.The attack and claimed intercepts happened the day before this satellite image, the video from the Kiev Citycam showed one (presumed) impact on May 16 at 2 a.m.
But maybe the Khinzals flew around the earth a few times and hit the airport next day, those Khinzals are very special missiles!
It was always just a matter of time until someone found a solution to hypersonic missiles, at least to the low end kind Russia has, and it's not at all difficult to believe the Patriot system is the answer. This was the first time the Kinzhal had been tested against the Patriot system, and the Kinzhal failed the test.Yes, there is no visual evidence that the Patriot was hit. And if it was not about Ukrainian claimes about 6 downed Kinzhals, it would be possible to forget about it and move on.
But this claims give some food for thoughts. If there were really 6 Kinzhals, then what happened to them? All 6 were downed? Okay, maybe. But that would mean that a Kinzhal is a piece of crap and is worth nothing. Again, there is no evidence. Not a single piece of metal.
The Russians destroyed the whole system with 6 Kinzhals? Maybe. But again, there is no evidence.
As always, the truth is somewhere in between.
I really hope so. I definitely want to see more Patriots in Ukraine and Western jets as soon as possible.It was always just a matter of time until someone found a solution to hypersonic missiles, at least to the low end kind Russia has, and it's not at all difficult to believe the Patriot system is the answer. This was the first time the Kinzhal had been tested against the Patriot system, and the Kinzhal failed the test.
The United States Department of Defense has confirmed that Ukraine's military has successfully shot down a hypersonic missile called “Kinzhal” (NATO reporting name Killjoy) using the Patriot air defense system.
The Pentagon spokesperson, Patrick Ryder, confirmed the news and stated that the system is part of a broader range of air defense assets that the United States and the international community have provided to Ukraine.
The Ukrainian Air Force Commander, Mykola Oleshchuk, had reported last week that the Patriot system had shot down a Kinzhal missile launched by Russia during a strike on Ukraine on May 4. Oleshchuk stated that a missile was fired by a MiG-31K aircraft from the Russian territory and was shot down over the Kyiv region.
Pentagon Confirmed Patriot System Shot Down a Hypersonic ‘Kinzhal’ Missile Over Kyiv Region
Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu claimed in August 2022 that the so-called hypersonic air-launched missile was “impossible to detect or intercept.”www.kyivpost.com
It was always just a matter of time until someone found a solution to hypersonic missiles
I have seen fragments of a downed missile that was either a Khinzal or Iskander. They are the same missile, so you can't differentiate by looks. The only difference is the trajectory.But this claims give some food for thoughts. If there were really 6 Kinzhals, then what happened to them? All 6 were downed? Okay, maybe. But that would mean that a Kinzhal is a piece of crap and is worth nothing. Again, there is no evidence. Not a single piece of metal.
A Patriot battery typically has 10-12 pieces, not counting support vehicles. The radar, the control station, the antenna group, and the generator make up the nerve center, and they need to be in relatively close proximity to each other. There are typically 6-8 launchers in a battery. The launchers have their own power supply and communications link, so they aren't deployed all bunched up- they can be spread out over a wide area and do not require a physical connection to the engagement module.The Russians destroyed the whole system with 6 Kinzhals? Maybe. But again, there is no evidence.
A Patriot battery typically has 10-12 pieces, not counting support vehicles. The radar, the control station, the antenna group, and the generator make up the nerve center, and they need to be in relatively close proximity to each other. There are typically 6-8 launchers in a battery. The launchers have their own power supply and communications link, so they aren't deployed all bunched up- they can be spread out over a wide area and do not require a physical connection to the engagement module.
Most of what I would ask can't be answered in a public forum, but this:And the Antenna-Mast Group is not really required for a single battery to operate. That is part of the network that allows the Battalion to link with the various batteries operating under it. In a single Battery deployment it is not even needed so you can eliminate the AMG. Just the EPP, RADAR, command van, and launchers.
The AMG is not needed for mid-course updates?
That emplacement sort of matches the way the launchers appeared to be setup the night of the big missile strike. About 2/3 of the missiles appearing to come from closely spaced launchers and 1/3 coming from 2 launchers that were placed further away.
U.S. forces in Qatar accidentally fired a Patriot missile at a farm in the Gulf Arab state but caused no injuries, the Pentagon said on Tuesday.
The U.S. military is investigating the missile launch, first reported by Al Jazeera television. The Patriot is an anti-missile system.
“Those things are not supposed to accidentally discharge,” said Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman. “It was not supposed to happen.”
Whitman said the missile was fired into an unpopulated farm area. The missile was fired during a training exercise, said Lt. Gen. Carter Ham, director of operations for the U.S. Joint Chiefs of Staff.
Without knowing any specifics, at least 2 of the assistance packages for Ukraine included "equipment to integrate Western air defense launchers, missiles, and radars with Ukraine’s air defense systems".
Well yes, but you still need some communications to provide mid-course updates.Nope, not at all. That is all between the command van and the RADAR. Remember, the RADAR itself guides the missile.
But, for a some reason Zelenskiy is still not returning in Ukraine. Funny, isn't it?Does anyone remember the drone attack on the Kremlin a few weeks ago? The only reasonable answer would have been a Kingal attack on some government building in Kiev.
As long as the Putin regime hasn't been able to do even that, you stupid Russian clowns had better shut up. You sound silly and ridiculous.