I Guess we'll have to pass a lot of job killing legislation, pass more entitlements for the poor, and raise taxes on "the rich" It's the only way to stop globull warming...........
I guess that you will remain the dumb fuck you have always been.
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I Guess we'll have to pass a lot of job killing legislation, pass more entitlements for the poor, and raise taxes on "the rich" It's the only way to stop globull warming...........
Crevasses seldom are more than 150 feet (46 m) deep but in some cases can be 1,000 feet (300 m) or even deeper. Beneath this point, the plastic deformation of the ice under pressure is too great for the differential motion to generate cracks
An extriordinery winter shaping up in Northeastern Canada and Western Greenland.
AccuWeather.com - Brett Anderson | Hudson Bay Region Still Waiting for Winter
Hudson Bay Region Still Waiting for Winter
Dec 30, 2010; 5:41 PM ET
Much of northeastern Canada is still waiting for winter to set in, and the latest projections continue to show more abnormal warmth across the region into early January.
Persistent high pressure in the upper levels of the atmosphere over the region has prevented any Arctic air from getting into the region since autumn. Basically, an island of unusually warm air.
Temperature anomaly map for Canada in November 2010.
The impact of this cannot be good for the locals and the wildlife up in that region.
This long spell of warm weather has even prevented a large part of eastern Hudson Bay from freezing over, and it's almost Jan. 1!
GFS model forecast for temperature anomalies across North America on Jan. 13. Reds are warmer than normal, blues colder than normal.
The image below is from MODIS and still shows a large body of open water along the eastern side of Hudson Bay which is almost unheard of.
OldRocks
"What you see in there is a bunch of particles of aeolian dust... and black soot and just particles that are in the air caused by industry or combustion engines," explained Dr Hubbard.
At its peak, CFS Alert had upwards of 215 personnel posted at any one time. The station became a key asset in the global ECHELON network of the US-UK-ANZAC intelligence sharing alliance, with Alert being privy to many secret Soviet communications regarding land-based and sea-based ICBM test launches and many operational military deployments.
With Canada's commitment to the global war on terrorism following the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks in New York City and Washington, DC, CFS Alert has received renewed and increased funding to expand its SIGINT capabilities. However, as of April 13, 2006 the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation was reporting that the heating costs for the station had risen, in consequence of which the military were proposing to cut back on support trade positions by using private contractors [1].
Aircraft crashes
The military has constructed several roads in the area to permit patrolling, as well as for logistics purposes from shore locations near anchorages east of the station, as well as to the airfield. Since Alert has not been accessible by icebreakers due to the very heavy ice conditions in the Lincoln Sea, resupply is provided by Canadian Forces Air Command (AIRCOM) transport aircraft which land at the adjacent airfield.
Alert is in total darkness from October 14 to March 1 every year and its weather conditions and isolation provides a significant challenge to pilots. This has led to some well-known crashes:
* In summer of 1950 an RCAF Lancaster crashed during the establishment of the JAWS weather station when the parachute for resupplies being airdropped became entangled on the tail of the aircraft. All 9 crewmembers were killed and are buried west of the airstrip.
* A C-130 Hercules, part of Operation Boxtop 22, crashed about 30 km (19 mi) short of the runway on October 30, 1991, killing 5 of the 18 passengers and crew. The pilot apparently was flying by sight rather than relying on instruments. Subsequent rescue efforts by personnel from CFS Alert, USAF personnel from Thule, and CF personnel from bases in southern Canada, were hampered by a blizzard and local terrain. The crash investigation recommended all C-130s be retrofitted with ground proximity detectors. The crash and rescue efforts were the basis of a film called Ordeal In The Arctic (1993).
READ this, I`ve been trying You tell You that with my posts in "97% of the climaxologists agree blah blah thread":
Alert has a polar climate. This means it is very cold and, on average, has snow cover for 10 months of the year. The warmest month, July, has an average temperature of just 3.3 °C (37.9 °F). The climate type also means that Alert is very dry, averaging only 153.8 mm (6.06 in) of precipitation per year. Most of the precipitation is snow and occurs during the months of July, August and September. On average there is 16.1 mm (0.63 in) of rain which occurs between June and September. Alert sees very little snowfall during the rest of the year. September is usually the month with the heaviest snowfall. February is the coldest month of the year. Snowfall can occur during any month of the year.[3] Alert experiences polar night from the middle of October, with twilight lasting until the end of the month, until the end of February, with twilight starting about the middle of the month. From the first week of April until the first week of September Alert sees the midnight sun.[4]
Average high °C (°F) -28.8
(-19.8) -29.8
(-21.6) -28.7
(-19.7) -20.5
(-4.9) -8.7
(16.3) 1.6
(34.9) 5.9
(42.6) 3.3
(37.9) -6.0
(21.2) -15.8
(3.6) -22.8
(-9) -26.4
(-15.5) -14.7
(5.5)
Daily mean °C (°F) -32.4
(-26.3) -33.4
(-28.1) -32.4
(-26.3) -24.4
(-11.9) -11.8
(10.8) -0.8
(30.6) 3.3
(37.9) 0.8
(33.4) -9.2
(15.4) -19.4
(-2.9) -26.4
(-15.5) -30.1
(-22.2) -18.0
(-0.4)
Average low °C (°F) -35.9
(-32.6) -37.0
(-34.6) -36.1
(-33) -28.2
(-18.8) -14.9
(5.2) -3.2
(26.2) 0.7
(33.3) -1.8
(28.8) -12.2
(10) -22.8
(-9) -30.0
(-22) -33.7
(-28.7) -21.3
(-6.3)
Record low °C (°F) -48.9
(-56) -50.0
(-58) -49.4
(-56.9) -45.6
(-50.1) -29.0
(-20.2) -13.9
(7) -6.3
(20.7) -15.0
(5) -28.2
(-18.8) -39.4
(-38.9) -43.5
(-46.3) -46.1
(-51) -50.0
(-58)
A much better source of information than the rantings of a message board poster.
Changing Greenland - Melt Zone - National Geographic Magazine
At first glance Greenland is an expanse of blinding white. But as my chopper swings low over the island, color catches my eye. For miles on end, bands of blue meltwater fringe the ice sheet. Fields of white are threaded with riv*ers, etched with crevasses, and blotched with lakes. There is also ice that appears neither white nor blue but rather brown and even blackdarkened by a substance called cryoconite. This muddy-looking grit is a key topic of investigation for my four companions: photogr*apher James Balog with his assistant, Adam LeWinter, and geophysicist Marco Tedesco with Ph.D. stu*dent Nick Steiner, both from the City College of New York.
LMAO..........Rocks pwned again!!!!!!!!!!!!
New Melt Record for Greenland Ice Sheet; 'Exceptional' Season Stretched Up to 50 Days Longer Than Average
ScienceDaily (Jan. 21, 2011) .......
"This past melt season was exceptional, with melting in some areas stretching up to 50 days longer than average," said Dr. Marco Tedesco, director of the Cryospheric Processes Laboratory at The City College of New York (CCNY -- CUNY), who is leading a project studying variables that affect ice sheet melting.
"Melting in 2010 started exceptionally early at the end of April and ended quite late in mid- September."
The study, with different aspects sponsored by World Wildlife Fund (WWF), the National Science Foundation and NASA, examined surface temperature anomalies over the Greenland ice sheet surface, as well as estimates of surface melting from satellite data, ground observations and models.
In an article published in Environmental Research Letters, Professor Tedesco and co-authors note that in 2010, summer temperatures up to 3C above the average were combined with reduced snowfall.
"Bare ice is much darker than snow and absorbs more solar radiation," said Professor Tedesco. "Other ice melting feedback loops that we are examining include the impact of lakes on the glacial surface, of dust and soot deposited over the ice sheet and how surface meltwater affects the flow of the ice toward the ocean."
WWF climate specialist Dr. Martin Sommerkorn said "Sea level rise is expected to top 1 metre by 2100, largely due to melting from ice sheets. And it will not stop there -- the longer we take to limit greenhouse gas production, the more melting and water level rise will continue."
Dr. Tedesco's continuing research on ice sheets can be followed on Cryocity.org.
For more on Arctic climate change, visit WWF - The Arctic.
New melt record for Greenland ice sheet; 'Exceptional' season stretched up to 50 days longer than average
You asked for it...and I`ll lay my cards on the table ANYTIME!!!:
I'm putting the cards on the table. Put yours. Temps are based on moderate enso conditions.
Seldom do You see so much bullshit piled up in one place, except maybe in a cattle truck!
You let an asshole from New York who has never even been to Greenland sell You this crap as science!
Let`s start with this lie first:
The asshole from New York looks at a Satellite picture from Greenland and everything that doesn`t look white is "soot and dust" on the ice sheet!.......
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Have You any idea what "card" You just laid on the table, by quoting this fuckhead director from the New York Cry o spherical hysterical institute who thinks "solar radiation" melted all this ice
Since You have not even the foggiest notion what enthalpy is, or any other thermodynamics I put it in terms even a simpleton can understand:
Ice - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Does that give You a vague idea what kind of super nova solar radiation it would take to melt all this ice...?
And what kind of crap "science" expert You just quoted here with the "cards you lay on the table"..?
The same massive amount of solar radiation which would be necessary to melt all that ice would fry everything around the Greenland glaciers and You could hard boil eggs in the Remus river!!!!
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Since You have no idea about Greenland You probably need to be told that the pic`s with the ice were not taken in the winter, but at the height of summer..
doooh?...`cause during Winter it`s pitch dark 24 hours.
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Does this look like we are kneeling on that Diesel Engine exhaust " soot" which the New York cryohysterical director spotted on his satellite picture????..
He did say soot!...no need to mention a diesel engine if you choose that word!
.that`s less than 500 miles from the pole and the entire country side is peppered with TREE STUMPS!
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And then he talks about estimates and "average temperatures"....in GREENLAND!!
Let me clue You in on a little something, although YOU have not been up there You could have found that out with just a little bit due diligence:
Greenland ice sheet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Well You may be excused, but the New York City "Expert" on Greenland certainly not!
Also he is saying the EXACT OPPOSITE of what NASA has in fact been saying:
...on the same web page!...This dumb Fuck from New York wants to quote NASA and doesn`t even bother checking what they say the snowfall was in Greenland!
People think they know everything about Greenland, just by looking at a picture screen with a Satellite image on it:
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Even if the asshole from New York has never been to Greenland he should have noticed something, unless he is even more retarded as I estimate him to be...!
1.) Look at the color coded scale...notice something?
Look at the color scale for an INCREASE !
2.) If he was an "expert" he should have noticed where the highest decrease is!
That`s where You have the STEEPEST terrain gradients in all of Greenland, nowhere else does it drop off that steep and that long...
Do You have any idea what kind of pressure we are talking about at the base of this glacier?....I`m sure You don`t and that is forgivable too, because You committed no fraud here You simply quoted the asshole expert from New York and Played Your card"...as You put it Yourself!
Just make damn sure You are playing with a full deck...!
And an "expert" should have known at least a little bit about Physics:
And I guess You have no Idea what kind of pressures we are talking about at that deep blue color coded area of Greenland, well here is a little hint how thick the ice is and take a wild guess why the ice is melting from UNDERNEATH ad NOT FROM THE TOP:
As if that higher melt rate especially at that spot has anything to do with "soot on the ice"..! Or "average higher temperature".
He should have at least read what some of his buddies who are a bit more up to speed and have finally discovered what Mr. Faraday has discovered long before they finally just did too:
Geotimes - October 2003 - New model for glacial erosion
And here is some of this "new data" which was not new to anyone who paid attention during his Physics lectures:
Greenland ice sheet flow driven by short-term weather extremes, not gradual warming: UBC research UBC Public Affairs
See,,? But they too still think water has to melt from the top, seep 2 MILES down an "lubricate" the bottom of a glacier!
Shit they could have just looked here, someone posted how Regelation causes a glacier to slide downhill:
Pressure melting point - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
But hey, why deflate their balloon , let them re-invent the wheel ...for all I care, they can stand on top, piss.. and do a study how they can "lubricate a glacier".
And do You really think that European "climate scientists" can measure a sea rise level of 0.14 mm...You knew of course that we are talking about 5/ hundredth of an inch...or did you?
Fuck how much of this "computer modeling bullshit" can You swallow?...
Not a single one of these assholes ever even bothers to measure ANYTHING they feed their fuckhead estimates in a "computer model which is the mirror image of their shits for brains and show You a stupid 2 dimensional graph!...and You are impressed by it!
So if somebody tells You they measured John Candy`s waist line while he was huffing and puffing doing jumping jacks with 5/100 th of an inch accuracy You believe that too...
and "lay your card on the table"...
I recommend You count Your deck before You start playing cards!
But they are all Arm chair Greenland "experts"...him too:
http://www.usmessageboard.com/environment/150781-global-warming-dire-prediction-for-the-year-3000-a.html#post3212985
He must be talking about how much they have been paying at the fuel pumps in Europe since the Ferkel, Andrea Merkel, the "climate chancellor" has enacted "greenhouse gas legislation"....and thinks that is only billions of Dollars...he can`t even do simple math, 1 liter of regular is about 1.5 Euros with the current exchange rate that`s U$ 5.40 per Gallon and that bitch has been in office since 2005!
So guess again how much this CO2 scam has been costing!
I know for sure this jerk has never been to Greenland either!
And now I am wondering if he has ever even been to school
Where the fuck do You get "information" like this?....
Old Rocks
The present tempertures for Hudson's Bay and Greenland are far above normal for January.
You asked an expert..?... because You are too stupid to look it up yourself:
Churchill, Manitoba, Canada weather conditions and forecast : WorldTimeServer.com
Weather in Churchill, Manitoba, Canada
Current Conditions in Churchill
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-33°F / -36°C
Feels like -59°F / -36°C
Wind: W at 13 mph / 21 km/h
Humidity: 62%
Pressure: 30.03 inches / 1017 mb
Sunrise: 8:43 AM
Sunset: 4:11 PM
Conditions updated at Sat, 22 Jan 2011 2:00 am CST
Oh yeah the polar Bears in Churchill must be sweating!